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New Dr Who Actor Named

Hemos posted more than 10 years ago | from the who-da-thunk-it dept.

Sci-Fi 211

gdav writes "Well, after all that talk about Bill Nighy, it's actually going to be Christopher Ecclestone. He was prominent in Cracker, Our Friends in the North, and more recently 28 Days Later."

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GNAA Interviews CowboyNeal (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8620657)

GNAA Interviews CowboyNeal
by GNAA staff

UPDATE! UPDATE!
Since the original posting of this article there has been some doubts about authenticity of CowboyNeal. Rest assured, however, he was indeed the real CowboyNeal. We could tell by the smell coming from his pants.

On January 17 2004, select members of the GNAA interviewed CowboyNeal on IRC channel #caoine at irc.caoine.org.

We will be right back after this commercial break!
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According to Google Zeitgeist [google.com] , there are about 80% of Internet Explorer 6 [microsoft.com] users. The only platform supporting Internet Explorer 6 is, of course, Microsoft Windows. These statistics are consistent with the earlier presented graphs of the operating systems used to access Google, with the Windows family consistently taking the top 3 ranks. Out of remaining 20%, the split is even between MSIE 5.5, MSIE 5.0, both Windows-only browsers. Netscape 5.x (including Mozilla) counts for only a measly 5% of browsers used to access Google. As you can see from the graph, this sample was calculated starting from March 2001 until September 2003.
And now we return to our scheduled broadcast...

The following are select portions of the chat transcript kept by official GNAA stenographer (and Ringmusculaturis II Leader), Captain B. Dick

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GNAA Member AbdullaH introduces himself to CowboyNeal

[5:09:26] AbdullaH: Hello, Sir! My name is Abdullah Ihram Mohammad Bin Zular Krokar Tehroham Kumr, I am a TERRORIST. My father was on the first plane that crashed in the World Tarde Center. I get a boner every time CNN plays that tape. If you wish to help me in my quest for WORLD SLAVERY, please purchase a kalashnikov at your nearest kalashnikov store and HELP ME KILL ALL AMERICANS!

[5:09:29] CowboyNeal: if this is part of that jihad I keep hearing about, it's a pretty fucking lame part of it
---
CowboyNeal is questioned about his feelings towards civil rights; uses both the N, and K-words

[5:21:11] timecop: CowboyNeal: do you have something against niggers?

[5:21:24] CowboyNeal: nay, some of best friends are nigs
[5:23:47] CowboyNeal: like all my kike friends too?

---
GNAA Member timecop inquires about Slashdot [slashdot.org] moderation policies. CowboyNeal admits to cleaning peoples' shit up for a living.

[5:16:04] timecop: I have a problem with my slashdot account
[5:16:09] timecop: it has Karma: excellent
[5:16:10] timecop: but I post at -1
[5:16:12] timecop: WHAT THE FUCK?!

[5:16:19] CowboyNeal: yeah, sucks, don't it?

[5:16:26] CaptBDick: wow that can happen?

[5:16:41] timecop: CowboyNeal: mind to explain what the FUCK is going on?

[5:17:00] CowboyNeal: you got downmodded into oblivion at least once, and there's no second chances

[5:17:17] timecop: no, i got a better theory
[5:17:35] timecop: some nazis downmodded a bunch of my comments and set a flag to fuck all my posts
[5:17:41] timecop: because someone doesnt agree with my OPINIONS

[5:18:05] CowboyNeal: you are complaining to the janitor, not the vice principal
[5:23:08] CowboyNeal: I don't have any modpoints
---
CowboyNeal admits hatred for Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda [cmdrtaco.net] , and pretends to have a girlfriend.

[5:25:27] CowboyNeal: hey, I hate malda just as much as you guys. If it weren't for him making me work saturdays, I'd be with my gf right now.
---

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Could someone please ban these guys? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8620827)

PLEEEEEEEZ?

You don't scare me GNAA.

-StarManta

my precious fp! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8620658)

i am teh awesome

YOU FAIL IT TO TIMECOP (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8620744)

Holy shit, you have failed it hard-fucking-core. I bet you feel like a loser now, eh? FOAD

Re:YOU FAIL IT TO TIMECOP (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8620790)

nah. I got 3 other fp's this morning, and there is no shame in losing to the best.

Help (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8620662)

Hitler has come back to life, and is touching my junk liberally!

Great (-1, Offtopic)

Czernobog (588687) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620665)

Christopher Eccleston to play Dr. Who 0:11 Saturday 20 March 2004 Rejected

Only submitted this last night, but what do I know, I only heard it from the horses mouth, ie BBC radio 5 news....

Re:Great (-1, Troll)

Czernobog (588687) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620693)

To the twits who modded me as redundant.
Perhaps you may have liked to have instead commented on the spelling of Eccleston's name instead of modding me as "Redundant."
Oh hell, I forgot, this is /.
And no I'm not bitter.

MODS ON CRACK!!! MOD DOWN AS TROLL!! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8620707)

MOD DOWN OR UP OR UPSIDE DOWN!! damn it's the lameness filter encountered situation so i need to type this shit with lowercase.

Re:Great (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8620743)

FFFFUUUCCCKKKK!!!!!

Stupid fuckers on Slashdot never accept any good posts. They only accept from their friends so you always see the same shit over and over again. It's fuckign sickening. I can't tell you how many stories I've submitted and had rejected even though they would have fit perfectly on Slashdot. But even more maddening is when SOMEONE ELSE submits the same story and it gets posted because they are close personal friends of the tards that run Slashdot. FUCKERS. I shake my fist at you you fucking assholes!!!

Re:Great (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8620797)

You complain about Slashdot rejecting your story (Maybe it was poorly written?) then you winge about being modded down. Do you have nothing better to do than complain about Slashdot in relation your own life?

Re:Great (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8621295)

given quality of some of the accepted stories, if writing plays a major role in the selection process, I'd hate to see the rejected stories.

Re:Great (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8621359)

Poorly written compared to the one line write up in the article that was selected?

Who? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8620669)

Doctor who? Say again please.

MOD PARENT UP - FUNNY!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8620691)

Mod up!! Was I the only one who got this joke?

Oblig. Simpsons... (1)

adamofgreyskull (640712) | more than 10 years ago | (#8621515)

Chalmers: Doctor who?
Skinner: Not the pronoun, but rather a doctor with the unlikely name of "Who".
Chalmers: Well that's just great, Seymour. We've been out here six seconds and you've already managed to blow the routine.Sexless freak.

Why? (-1, Redundant)

after (669640) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620671)

I really dont like these kind of moview, I dont even think the braud audience of Slashdot does either.

That, and I am really, really tired because I didnt sleep all night. How many times can one not sleep nights before it becomes dangerous to his health?

Sorry... I have nothing else do say, I just dont like these kind of movies. More Hackers please, more gibsons and 3d flythroughs.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8620726)

How many times can one not sleep nights before it becomes dangerous to his health?

Do you have to drive? One night is enough.

Re:Why? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8620805)

How many times can one not sleep nights before it becomes dangerous to his health?

I just asked Tyler and he said three.

Lets face it though.... (4, Insightful)

andy666 (666062) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620676)

nothing beats the good ol' Tom Baker days. Not that I didn't like the other doctors...

Re:Lets face it though.... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8620708)

Re:Lets face it though.... (5, Funny)

torpor (458) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620742)

yeah, you just can't go ooo-eee-ooooh without thinking of Tom.

Re:Lets face it though.... (5, Informative)

Masem (1171) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620772)

The reason that many people like Tom Baker is that during that time, the complete DW production staff was one of the best assembled, from writing to direction, and thus has some of the more memoriable stories, and just so happened that Tom Baker was the Doctor at that time. But I know more DW fans that appreciate Patrick Trougton, Jon Pewtree, and Peter Davidson as the Doctor, given some of the intensity of acting which they supplied to the roles, while Tom Baker's was more a jovial approach - there's also the change in approach from more cerebrial stories to more action-oriented ones as the sfx budget increased.

The question here, is, is this going to be the 9th Doctor (as the BBC canon (which includes the made-for-tv movie) has McGann as the 8th, or are they planning on retcon?

Re:Lets face it though.... (1)

Richard_at_work (517087) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620782)

Lets read the article shall we :)

Eccleston, who starred alongside Nicole Kidman in the horror movie The Others, will be the ninth TV Time Lord to control the Tardis in a 13-part series.

Now, does that clear that up?

Re:Lets face it though.... (3, Informative)

Masem (1171) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620871)

I read that as "9th actor to play the Doctor" , not necessarily the 9th Doctor (aka 8th regeneration), only because, again, the question of the movie-as-canon is still in question, plus it certainly is possible to say the movie was canon, they could pull an actor change at this point without upsetting too much.

Re:Lets face it though.... (3, Interesting)

Richard_at_work (517087) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620922)

Since they killed off the previous actor within the movie, and the creators have previously said that the movie was to be included, I would say that the BBC article is correctly worded as the 9th Time Lord. Its possible we wont see McGann being killed off, but we will pick back up with the Dr after a undetermined period of time in his life.

On a similiar note, can anyone tell me the title and writer of the book where the Dr met Hitler? From what I recall, it was written for an older audience than the normal books, and was very good.

If you're going to count movies... (3, Interesting)

dpilot (134227) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620912)

What about Peter Cushing in "Day of the Daleks"?

I suspect the can(n)on has to boom in a different direction for the movies, though I did like the touch of including Sylvester McCoy in the McGann movie, even if the movie itself wasn't generally well received. For all of the running through the Tardis in "Invasion of Time", we never saw such an essential and powerful piece of the Tardis as the Eye until 1996?

Re:If you're going to count movies... (3, Informative)

Fred Or Alive (738779) | more than 10 years ago | (#8621135)

Peter Cushing starred in the movies "Dr. Who and the Daleks" and "Daleks: Invasion Earth 2150AD", which were based on the original TV stores "The Daleks"[1] and "The Dalek Invasion of Earth". "Day of the Daleks" was a Jon Pertwee TV story.But those two 1960s movies don't fit in with the TV series at all, being remakes of TV stories, featuring a human Dr. Who (not The Doctor) in his space ship Tardis (not the TARDIS) and various other changes. You'd have to really twist the timeline to include them. I think the TV series will follow on after Paul McGann, as there are a large number of spin off books and audio plays set after the TV movie, and fans don't generally take kindly to having huge parts of a series wiped out usually. Although I somehow thing the amount of McGann stuff will be reduced (BBC Books are apparently going to phase out on the ongoing 8th Doctor series of books, although I think occasional books are going to be produced in the 'past doctor' line.) I do hope they ignore any of the really stupid bits in the TV Movie though (the half-human bit is the most obvious, that's ripped strait out of Star Trek (Spock et. all).) But I think the current production them is knowledgeable enough to know that getting too hung up on continuity etc. is a bad idea, just look what happened in the early-mid 80's, with loads of really pointless references abound. [1] This is sometimes know as "The Mutants", but that isn't used much as a Jon Pertwee serial also has that title.

Re:If you're going to count movies... (1)

crywolf (445243) | more than 10 years ago | (#8621240)

We probably never saw the Eye because, until the supposed 8th Doctor, the Eye was on Gallifrey, powering the time travel facility. It's a good thing when Doctor 5 jettisoned 25% of the TARDIS, he didn't jettison the Time Lords' power source. Alas, he did jettison his Zero Room. Nifty place, that.

I wonder why he couldn't just create new rooms.

Re:Lets face it though.... (3, Informative)

gilesjuk (604902) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620925)

Tom Baker also played the doctor for the longest period from 1974 to 1981. Most of the others did a stretch of about 3-4 years.

Re:Lets face it though.... (1)

STrinity (723872) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620955)

The reason that many people like Tom Baker is that during that time, the complete DW production staff was one of the best assembled, from writing to direction, and thus has some of the more memoriable stories, and just so happened that Tom Baker was the Doctor at that time.

Also, people usually imprint on the first Doctor they're exposed to (same applies with James Bond), and since Tom Baker did more episodes than anyone else, most people see his episodes first.

Re:Lets face it though.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8620813)

I wonder what Patrick Stewart would be like as Dr. Who?

It might be a bit odd, but it could be interesting...

speaking of actors... (-1, Offtopic)

intertwingled (574374) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620678)

If Stranger in a Strange Land is ever made into a movie, I think Jim Carrey should play Michael Valentine Smith and Sean Connery should play Jubal Harshaw.

Re:speaking of actors... (0, Troll)

after (669640) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620685)

... and they should force Sadam to play Jesus in the next The Passion 2: Reloaded.

Re:speaking of actors... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8620728)

No, you are thinking of "The Shit-Kicking of the Christ, Part 2"

Samuel L Jackson as Dr Who (5, Funny)

Average_Joe_Sixpack (534373) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620679)

"Get the F*ck off my TARDIS ya punk ass bitch!!"

Paul McGann (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8620686)

It should have been Paul McGann. He did such a great job in the 1996 movie.

--
M

Re:Paul McGann (1)

AndroidCat (229562) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620736)

That movie never happened.

Re:Paul McGann (1)

That_Dan_Guy (589967) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620904)

I too liked him as the Doctor. I thought he was the best Doctor since Tom Baker. But he did some interviews where he basicly said he just wasn't into it anymore and didn't care. Kind of hard to (re)hire someone who doesn't feel like doing the job. Pitty though.

Re:Paul McGann (3, Informative)

D'Arque Bishop (84624) | more than 10 years ago | (#8621053)

He actually said himself that while he would have accepted the role if it had been offered to him, he would prefer to see someone with more drive and desire to play it, as he had already been there and done that, so to speak. However, he has said that he would love to come back and film the regeneration sequence.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/01/22/ 90 05.shtml

Re:Paul McGann (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8621254)

You're f'kin kidding, right?

Doctor Who and his Foppish Motorbike Adventures?

What little plot there was consisted of more hair tossing than your average shampoo commercial.

Interesting, yet disappointing (3, Insightful)

Chalybeous (728116) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620688)

I was holding out to see Richard E. Grant in the role, as he did an excellent job during the recent BBC/Cosgrove Hall co-produced web animation, "Scream of the Shalka".
That said, I'm more interested than disappointed, because I've seen some of Ecclestone's other work and I think he could bring a new perspective to the role.
(And I'm also very grateful that the role didn't go to Joanna Lumley. That joke's been done to death since the mid-1980s, and the Comic Relief episode a few years back is as close to that prediction as I want to get!!)

All we need to know now is, who are his new companions?

Re:Interesting, yet disappointing (3, Interesting)

kamawell (587003) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620759)

Richard E Grant would have done a fine job but he would have been almost too good a fit for the part - you get the impression he could do haughty but eccentric without having to think about about it.
Same with one of the other hotly tipped actors - Alan Davies - who could easily have done slightly shambolic and eccentric as he has done in several series of 'Jonathan Creek.'
And much as I love Eddie Izzard I'm kind of relieved it wasn't him in the end.

Re:Interesting, yet disappointing (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8620769)

Idiot. It should have been Alan Davies of the BBC series Jonathan Creek. He would have been perfect for the role. Jonathan Creek was a lot like the Doctor:

1. He used his brain to solve mysteries/crimes instead of being an "ass kicking" idiot.
2. He lived in an unusual structure (windmill)
3. He had a mop of curly hair (a la Tom Baker)
4. He wore a long coat (a la Tom Baker)
5. He had companions who changed over time (OK, only two, but who knows if the series would continue?)
6. His companion Maddie carried around Jelly Babies
7. The show was written by a former Doctor Who writer

Need I say more?

Re:Interesting, yet disappointing (1)

fermion (181285) | more than 10 years ago | (#8621286)

suggestions:
Jane Horrocks
Emma Chambers
Danny John-Jules

And I would have loved a Lenny Henry/Dawn French situation. Either one could have been an awesome doctor.

Nightmare scenario 1: Jane Leeves anywhere in the show.

Nightmare scenario 2: The New Adventures of The Young Dr. Who with Daniel Radcliffe.

Re:Interesting, yet disappointing (1)

Trolling4Dollars (627073) | more than 10 years ago | (#8621403)

What's wrong with Jane Leeves?

One question.... (3, Funny)

sh0dan (762382) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620695)

Christopher who?

Re:One question, rephrased... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8620754)


Parent was posted by Ralph Wiggum [snpp.com] , so a little resect for a real celebrity, please.

Re:One question.... (1)

wolverine1999 (126497) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620806)

Nice to see you here sh0dan..

I thought Christopher Who too..

I had hoped either Paul McGann or Peter Davison would be in the role again (both were mentioned at some point somewhere)...

Re:One question.... (5, Informative)

kamawell (587003) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620812)

Eccleston. In the UK he's a well repected TV actor but he was in '28 Days Later' and 'Elizabeth' too. He's an interesting choice and over here at least he's certainly going to lend a bit of adult credibilty to the new version of the show.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001172/

Re:One question.... (1)

alib001 (654044) | more than 10 years ago | (#8621335)

I'm not sure how well he'll be able to handle the eccentricity of Doctor Who. Whilst his IMDB listing details some solid performances ('Clocking Off' was good too), it also reminded me of the terrible, camp villain he played in 'Gone in 60 Seconds'.

Here's hoping he's developed his range to include a performance somewhere between credibly gritty and the ridiculous.

As Uncle Buck would say... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8620715)


"Here's a quarter. Why don't you go downtown and have a rat gnaw that thing off your face!"

This is a travesty. Ricky Gervais had my vote for the next Dr. Who

A good Docotor does not a good show make... (5, Insightful)

eweu (213081) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620723)

Paul McGann was a fabulous Doctor in the 1996 movie, but the writing was terrible. That's why it flopped.

I only hope the BBC holds back on budget just like the old days so the storytelling has to bear the weight, not the effects.

Re:A good Docotor does not a good show make... (2, Informative)

Felinoid (16872) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620888)

Based on the flash movies already on the BBC website I'd say they plan to use a great deal of specal effects BUT the writers will not be permitted to let the effects tell the story.

I won't speak for the quality of the writing. However every TV executive will tell you if you just toss a TV show on the air and tell nobody you will get no viewers. That is exactly what Fox pulled with the 1996 movie.

Re:A good Docotor does not a good show make... (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8620979)

I won't speak for the quality of the writing. However every TV executive will tell you if you just toss a TV show on the air and tell nobody you will get no viewers.

It was awful as an example of Doctor Who. If they wanted to start over from scratch then they should have started over from scratch, not pretend to be writing a Doctor Who movie. If they wanted to continue a tradition then they needed to stay more in that tradition. The movie they made just didn't work as Doctor Who.

If they wanted to take the series in a new direction then they had to first show that they could cope with the existing material.

A one off episode after a long break is not the time to decide that the Doctor is half human, bring in all that weird power source of the tardis that can only be opened by humans (why?) stuff, have the Doctor falling in love with some girl he's just met etc. etc. Work with the material you've got or don't bother, but reinventing like that was never going to work. Revelations like that need to be fitted in to the direction of the story line over time. Maybe a Doctor falling in love or whatever can work, but not out of the blue like that.

If they'd created it as a standalone without the Doctor Who references maybe it could work. If it'd been the culmination of a series that led up to it, maybe it could have worked. As an attempt at a new Doctor Who, it was terrible.

Re:A good Docotor does not a good show make... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8621246)

The main problem with the pilot was that it assumed that you knew who Doctor Who was and that you should care, while at the sametime trying to explain this overly complicated backstory. Plus the movie was just plain boring.

Had they just introduced the Dr Who character to the American audience and left it at that, it might have worked. Nothing more than "He's a timelord, he has a time machine, he solves people's problems" was really needed. They could explain the baloney about the Tardis powersource in later epidsodes if they really needed to.

I got the feeling that the script was written by fanboys and then glossed over by professional hollywood types that didn't know anything about Dr Who.

Re:A good Docotor does not a good show make... (1)

KnightStalker (1929) | more than 10 years ago | (#8621422)

Yeah, Fox is good at failing to promote good shows. They must have some really pathological office politics. Remember Firefly? No? Guess why. :-)

Re:A good Docotor does not a good show make... (2, Interesting)

That_Dan_Guy (589967) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620935)

Yes he was a fabulous Doctor. Wish he had been interested in staying.

I can remember being so stunned the movie even existed (I was in Taiwan at the time I saw it, which was the first I had heard of it) that I never noticed how awful story was. For me, the fabulous job by Paul McGann made up for it all.

Ahh well, least we got a Flash Movie with his voice that was pretty good.

And yes, I secretly hope they make the Special Effects especially cheesey to make it funnier to watch. I doubt they will though. it is cheap enough to grab some Computer Graphics animators and make it all look super modern...

Non-lameness does not a good Doctor make. (3, Interesting)

fm6 (162816) | more than 10 years ago | (#8621284)

Lame as it was, the movie doesn't begin to compare with most of the BBC scripts. Tom Baker once told an interviewer that his famous puzzled expression was not acting -- he often had no idea what was supposed to be going on, the script usually not being finished until shooting was well underway!

I wonder if the Beeb will just pretend the movie never happened? They certainly can't afford to reproduce Hollywood's version of the Tardis.

beg pardon? (1)

mblase (200735) | more than 10 years ago | (#8621442)

the writing was terrible. That's why it flopped

So how do you explain every other season of Doctor Who that got renewed?

Re:beg pardon? (1)

KnightStalker (1929) | more than 10 years ago | (#8621487)

Well, they had good writing on and off. Most of the really bad writing was toward the end of the series. Douglas Adams did a few episodes. "City of Death" is the only one I remember off the top of my head.

I wanted it to be (1)

Dr.Knackerator (755466) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620730)

David Thewlis, playing it in the style of 'Johnny' from Mike Leigh's 'Naked'. Now *that* would be fun to watch :) But Tom Baker was the best though. His autobiog is a fun read.

Re:I wanted it to be (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8621426)

a delightful film, that puts a spring in my step every time i watch it. ahem.

(oh, and i live a stone's throw away from where it was filmed).

Bill Nighy? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8620749)

You mean the Bill Nighy the Science Guihy?

Re:Bill Nighy? (1)

I Be Hatin' (718758) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620941)

You mean the Bill Nighy the Science Guihy?

Yup... the British non-union equivalent of Bill Nye.

Re:Bill Nighy? (1)

Chalybeous (728116) | more than 10 years ago | (#8621250)

I thought that was Johnny Ball...
(Come to think of it, how come Johnny Ball Reveals All* got cancelled, and that piece of drivel they call How 2 stays on the air?)

*No, Mr. Smartass. Johnny Ball Reveals All wasn't about a male stripper...

Travesty! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8620757)

It should have been Simon from American Idol.

Cool (1)

pcmanjon (735165) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620762)

28 days later was a really good movie, I enjoyed it a lot.

Not the best scientific plot, but a good movie non the less...

Was about these monkeys infected with rage, and it was the end of the world, but they found out it was isolated to england, watch it, it's neat

Re:Cool (1)

tommy_teardrop (228273) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620924)

Sounds like The Crying Game, where at the end, it was a man. :)

Re:Cool (0, Flamebait)

ozric99 (162412) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620957)

Or that one where Bruce Willis played a ghost...

Re:Cool (1)

The Desert Palooka (311888) | more than 10 years ago | (#8621358)

You're all bastards...

Ninghy? (1)

LooseChanj (17865) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620771)

Isn't that a triangular rubber coin several thousand miles long?

Re:Ninghy? (0)

PatrickThomson (712694) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620810)

Close.

In fact there are three freely convertible currencies in the Galaxy, but none of them count. The Altarian Dollar has recently collapsed, the Flainian Pobble Bead is only exchangeable for other Flainian Pobble Beads, and the Triganic Pu has its own very special problems. Its exchange rate of eight Ningis to one Pu is simple enough, but since a Ningi is a triangular rubber coin six thousand hundred miles along each side, no one has ever collected enough to own one Pu. Ningis are not negotiable currency, because the Galactibanks refuse to deal in fiddling small change. From this basic premise it is very simple to prove that the Galactibanks are also a product of a deranged imagination.

Second doctor Patrick Troughton (1)

BigHungryJoe (737554) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620780)

Best. Doctor. EVAR.

Am I the only one? (2, Informative)

JoshRoss (88988) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620819)

The only place that I have ever seen the name Dr. who has been on slashdot.
Are any of these posters from America?
When is the last time any of these shows aired?
Or, if they are any good, is there a Dr. who bittorrent site, since the BBC open-sourced their content [bbc.co.uk] .

Re:Am I the only one? (1)

Mongo222 (612547) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620884)

Yes, you are the only one. :)

Most of the 30 something geeks have seen Dr. Who on American broadcast television.

I know that episodes of Dr. Who have been shown as recently as two years ago on SciFi, but I haven't looked lately.

I envy your harddrive space. There are hundreds of episodes.

Yank watching Dr. Who. (1)

Hanzie (16075) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620896)

Are any of these posters from America?

When is the last time any of these shows aired?

I'm one.

Tonight, and I hope it won't be the last!

I love the picture [bbc.co.uk] . The caption says "The Previous Time Lords" and the picture is of three Daleks.

Re:Am I the only one? (1)

Strenoth (587478) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620902)

last time I saw Doctor Who broadcast was just a couple of years ago... hmm... well, it's not listed anywhere on my TiVo right now. my local PBS station used to play it all the time on sci-fi night, but that night seems to have been dropped. they even did anime occasionally on sci-fi night (sunday evenings)

Re:Am I the only one? (1)

slasher999 (513533) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620946)

I'm in my 30's, in the US, and recall Dr. Who being extremely popular with the "geeks" when I was in high school (84-87). The fans were as into Dr. Who as Star Trek and Star Wars fans are into those shows, but there was somewhat fewer Dr. Who fans. Dr. Who has never really found it's way into the mainstream - at least not in the US. Dr. Who episodes were shown on PBS stations then. At the time I wasn't really interested, but I've since taken quite a liking to them.

Re:Am I the only one? (5, Informative)

Fred Or Alive (738779) | more than 10 years ago | (#8621313)

Are any of these posters from America?
Quite a few I would guess. Not me though.

When is the last time any of these shows aired?
Last new episode was broadcast 06/12/89 (DD/MM/YY dates), a TV Movie coproduced by the BBC and Universal was broadcast 27/05/96 in the UK (earlier in the US). Repeats continue on UKTV Gold in the UK (early weekend mornings, set a video / PVR unless you want to get up a 7:30am on a Saturday), and some US PBS stations (but not many). Various other channels show it, like BBC Kids in Canada, UK TV and ABC[1] in Australia.)

Or, if they are any good, is there a Dr. who bittorrent site, since the BBC open-sourced their content.
Note "announced plans" and "in the future" etc. in that news article. It doesn't mean you can just share BBC material freely, it's still copyright and so on. Plus Drama series are probably going to be the last stuff the BBC will make available online, I think the early stuff they're going to have available is stuff like documentaries. You can get DVDs, audio CDs and VHSs of stories.

Now I'll just do a quick "WTF is Doctor Who" bit...

Doctor Who was a Sci-Fi series predominately aimed at children (although it's exact target audience varied over the course of the series, it gradually shifted to older audiences as time went on) that ran between 1963 and 1989 on BBC TV. It concerned the adventures of a mysterious time traveller called The Doctor (not Doctor Who), with the ability to regenerate and change his body to cheat death, and who travel through time and space in a Police Box[1]. The Police Box is actually called the TARDIS (Time And Relative Dimension(s) In Space), and a broken chameleon circuit (which should make the ship blend in with any environment, not just 1950/60's British city streets[2]) was not it's only problem, as the ship appeared to be very unpredictable, often catapulting the Doctor and his travelling companions[3] into dangerous situations, often against evil aliens like the Daleks, Cybermen, Ice Warriors, or The Doctor's nemesis The Master. The series was at it's most popular during the mid-late 1970's, when Tom Baker took the lead role.

[1] Basically a big blue phone box so police officers could contact their station before the advent of portable radios, they also had a phone on the outside for the use of the public in emergencies (behind the panel with text on it.)

[2] Naturally the TARDIS was first seen in a junkyard, not exactly a common location for Police Boxes at the time. A junkyard did become common in the 1970's, as police forces began scrapping the boxes in there numbers, only a handful of real boxes still exist.

[3] Quite often young women.

Ecclestein? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8620826)

I guess they figured if a hooked-nosed Jew like Tom Baker worked, why not try it again?

EXTERMINATE EXTERMINATE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8620848)

Who gives a shit what actor they pick, just as long as the doctor gets laid and they lose K9.

Last Dr. Who? (1)

cpuffer_hammer (31542) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620858)

If I remember my Dr. Who rules (though since when have the rules been a problem for the Dr.) This will be the ninth and there for last Dr. Who.
Of course they could go back and fill in the early life of the first Dr. or something like that.

Re:Last Dr. Who? (1)

Richard_at_work (517087) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620898)

No, according to the cannon books, its possible for the Gallifreyian Time Lord council to permit a second set of 9 regenerations, so its not fixed at 9. I cant remember from which set of books I got this from, but its definately main stream (It may have been the Master who had 18 regenerations, but Im not sure). God, Im so going to be labeled as a nerd for this.

Re:Last Dr. Who? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8620952)

12 regenerations, therefore 13 doctors.

Re:Last Dr. Who? (4, Informative)

NulDevice (186369) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620970)

12. Gallifreyans get 12 regens by default. The master used up all his, did all sorts of mojo to stay alive on Gallifrey, stole Councillor Wossisname's body on Traken, and in the 5 docs was offered a full set of regens in exchange for help locating the Doctor.

The Valeyard from Trial of a Time Lord was supposedly the doc's 12th regen. The eeeeeevil one.

Oh my god. I'm a huge nerd.

Re:Last Dr. Who? (3, Funny)

whovian (107062) | more than 10 years ago | (#8621036)

Yep, 12. Before that he was able to siphon off some of the energy(?) from the Eye of Harmony in the Panoptican on Gallifrey in order to stay alive a bit longer, even in his vegetative form.

That's Councillor Tremas you are thinking of.

Then there's that pneumesmiton(sp?) gas stuff in that cave during Peter Davison's character. Can't recall any more than that.

OMG! I'm a huge nerd, too. There's a pair of us!

Re:Last Dr. Who? (1)

crywolf (445243) | more than 10 years ago | (#8621264)

Numismaton. I wonder if you have to be a numismatist in order to use that.

Re:Last Dr. Who? (3, Interesting)

TomV (138637) | more than 10 years ago | (#8621154)

Unless you buy the "Brain Of Morbius" version of Time Lord lifecycles, in which case there were eight other Doctors prior to William Hartnell (this was flatly contradicted in other scripts later in the series, but was very much the intention of the production team at the time) whose faces appear on the screen of the mind-wrestling machine.

SO looking forward to this new series. We have another tall, intense, slightly alien-looking insanely charismatic actor in the role, the best Drama writer in the UK, a budget reported in today's press as around a million pounds per episode, scripts by not only Russell T Davis but also Paul Cornell, Mark Gatiss, Steve Moffat and Rob Shearman, each of whom has a fine professional track record, and the show still has the charisma to get immediate coverage across the UK national media.

Re:Last Dr. Who? (1)

STrinity (723872) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620992)

If I remember my Dr. Who rules (though since when have the rules been a problem for the Dr.) This will be the ninth and there for last Dr. Who.

You misremember. It's thirteen lives; the Trial of a Time Lord story (which constituted the majority of Colin Baker's tenure aboard the Tardis) featured the Thirteenth Doctor, who'd turned rather nasty in his closing days.

Izzard? (1)

FalconZero (607567) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620873)

I think Eddie Izzard [eddieizzard.com] was also widely tipped as the new doctor, though I can't see it not turning into a comedy had he played the doctor. Incidentally for those of you who have no idea who Dr Who is, the BBC is probably a good place to start:
www.bbc.co.uk/cult/doctorwho/

Re:Izzard? (1)

slithytove (73811) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620890)

Possibly too comedic, its true, but Eddie Izzard is the funniest man alive. I'd have been happy with any direction the show went with him as the doc.

Re:Izzard? (1)

blowdart (31458) | more than 10 years ago | (#8621337)

But if Izzard had got it I can just see the script

"Ah Davros you have captured me at last. If only my stilletto heels hadn't snapped as I was running up the stairs away from your Daleks".

He's got 'the look' (2, Interesting)

jarich (733129) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620930)

check him out Google images

http://images.google.com/images?q=%22Christopher+E ccleston%22&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en

He just 'looks' like a Doctor Who to me.... maybe it's the nose?

who will play the Master ? (3, Interesting)

snot.dotted (627646) | more than 10 years ago | (#8620936)

Arch villans. The Dr must be pitted against a worthy advisory, the Master. He really was very evil, in fact the Master invented evil. The chaps in the shiny suits and trash cans on wheels never really scared me at all, the Master on the other hand was equipped with a TARDIS that actually worked and all the knowledge of a time lord. The Master was Moriarty to The Doctors Sherlock Holmes, and or course he wanted to rule the known universe.

Re:who will play the Master ? (1)

BasilBrush (643681) | more than 10 years ago | (#8621049)

The 1996 film fiasco was a Master story, so I'd expect them to steer clear of him, at least for the first series.

Re:who will play the Master ? (1)

KnightStalker (1929) | more than 10 years ago | (#8621393)

I hope so. My favorites were always purely-human stories, or at least ones with new and unique villains. There's no need for a cosmic counterpart -- the Doctor is not a god or a superhero, just an influential and powerful guy doing good. "Face of Evil" comes to mind.

I think there's a place for an impersonal force threatening the whole galaxy though, like the Daleks or the Cybermen. Of course, if they use the Cybermen, new viewers will assume they stole them from Star Trek. :-)

I think they need a whole new set of villains. Keep the Time Lords, Gallifrey, Rassilon, the whole bit, the regenerations, the companions, etc. but please lose the Master. And get today's Douglas Adams or Harlan Ellison (whoever they may be) as a writer!

Dr. Who important social comment. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8621086)

Do not belittle Dr. Who, those that know not!!!
We had K9 long before Sony made that calculater that passes for a mutt.
One day the human race will reach the stars and will evolve to look like this:

who da thunk it? (0, Offtopic)

The Desert Palooka (311888) | more than 10 years ago | (#8621251)

Susie Plukit.

*duck*

Not forgetting his finest moment... (1)

evil_one666 (664331) | more than 10 years ago | (#8621362)



...which was of course alongside Ewan McGregor in Shallow Grave
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