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Getting A Laptop With The Low U.S. Dollar

timothy posted more than 10 years ago | from the used-to-be-volvos-in-sweden-this-way dept.

The Almighty Buck 1039

An anonymous reader submits "I am heading to the U.S. pretty soon and am keen to take advantage of the low US$ to buy a laptop. The differences in prices are astounding - on dell.com (US) you pay $2049 for a Precision M60 - in the UK this costs 1620.33UKP, or $2999. That is a fair difference! It makes it cheaper for me to fly to the US to buy it and carry it home than it is for me to buy it in the UK. Now, that said, it isn't particularly easy to find a place to buy a laptop from, since most of the places don't ship to the UK (or it takes weeks) and it is difficult to get stuff delivered to your hotel ... any suggestions of how I can get a good laptop in the New York area when I am only there for 4 days?"

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Don't forget... (-1)

SCO$699FeeTroll (695565) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637690)

...to pay your $699 licensing fee you cock-smoking teabaggers.

Re:Don't forget... (-1, Offtopic)

Donald Trump (764369) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637786)

SCO.... You're FIRED!

Easy answer (5, Informative)

SeanTobin (138474) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637695)

First off, I'm assuming you want a mail order dell laptop. The simplest way to go is to get a mailbox in New York via a company like The Mail Box or a UPS store. They give you a full address that is not a PO box, and they will sign for packages for you. Pre-pay for 1 month. That's step 1.

Step 2 is order your laptop and have it sent to your brand new address. You are going to want expedited shipping here - probably next day shipping because it might take a few days for them to ship it.

Step 3, pick up your cheap laptop when it arrives and consider the difference as... profit!

Re:Easy answer (5, Informative)

jazmataz23 (20734) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637722)

except that it takes as much as a month to get a laptop shipped from Dell, but nice try...

Re:Easy answer (5, Informative)

SeanTobin (138474) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637764)

I ordered 2 laptops from Dell last year. They both shipped the business day after I ordered them.

Re:Easy answer (-1, Troll)

tomstdenis (446163) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637806)

Yeah don't let your "facts" stand in the way of an otherwise convincing slashdot post.

Also

SELECT dork from YOMAMA WHERE ID=138474;

Loser... oh look you read two seconds worth of an SQL manual. Congratufuckinglations.

How about you pick up a Ruby manual and synergize the next greatest signature!!!!!!!!!

Fucktard.

Re:Easy answer (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8637738)

I'll mail you a laptop , Please sir to be sending me a money order for $400.

Re:Easy answer (5, Informative)

wallclimber21 (563789) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637781)

I just opened a mailbox at a UPS Store. You have to fill in a bunch of documents before they can sign for packages. You also have to provide official ID. I'm not so sure this can easily be arranged without being there.

Why?? (4, Informative)

ifreakshow (613584) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637700)

Not sure why this warrents an ask slashdot when a quick search found this:
Gateway Stores [gateway.com]
Circuit City [circuitcity.com]
Dell Direct Stores [dell.com]
Or if your feeling artistic:
Apple Stores [apple.com]

Re:Why?? (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8637747)

yeah great idea...except there aren't dell direct stores in NEW YORK...which is what the poster wants and where they'll be...

Re:Why?? (4, Informative)

Omega1045 (584264) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637753)

A couple of the Dell Direct stores I have been to only sell the machines. In other words, you do not get the machine then, but later like ordering through the web site or by phone.

Re:Why?? (2, Insightful)

Op7imus_Prim3 (645940) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637766)

Are you insane? Who buys gateway?

Easy... (0)

glarvat (753298) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637703)

Mug a stockbroker...

Get Some Priorities!! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8637704)

It's mere hours since the LEADER OF THE MOST EVIL TERRORIST ORGANIZATION IN HUMAN HISTORY WAS KILLED [cnn.com] and you people are talking about saving money on laptops??? MY GOD, people, GET SOME PRIORITIES!!!!!!

Re:Get Some Priorities!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8637750)

Truly an American icon.

Re:Get Some Priorities!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8637824)

What are you talking about? Arial Sharon isn't dead.

Some tips... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8637705)

Writing 121 (2004)
Instructor: Mark Feltham

Advice About Essay #3

Your third essay should be 750 words long, plus or minus 10% (75 words). It is worth 20% of your final course grade. It's due on Friday 19 March.

Your topic is as follows:

You are a freelance writer. A magazine editor has asked you to write an article for the back-to-school issue of a magazine aimed at university students. The editor wants a discussion of what kind of computer students should buy, and he wants the following title: Desktop Versus Laptop? What Should Students Buy?

2. How to Begin

Although argumentation and structure are of course always important, they are especially crucial for a specifically argumentative assignment. In this assignment you must evaluate two types of computers, laptop and desktop, determine which type is best for students, and explain why.

I recommend beginning with a chart: for each type of computer. List general advantages and disadvantages. Then evaluate your list of pros and cons in relation to the life of a typical student. This exercise will help you craft you thesis and organize your argument.

As you complete the chart, think about the following questions:

How do laptops differ from desktops in terms of performance, cost, etc?

How do these properties relate to the lifestyles of university students?

How do these properties affect computer use in a university environment?

Your essay does not necessarily need to specifically ask and answer these specific questions. They are guidelines only.

3. Your Thesis

It's not enough to simply state what computer you think students should buy. Rather, you should say why, and build the why directly into your thesis. You might also consider handheld devices like Palms, etc. It's up to you. You can argue whatever you want, and you may, if you wish, think outside the box of the question.

You might want to focus on cost versus performance. You might want to argue that students should buy desktops because they are better off doing their work at home, where they have access to all their materials, notes, etc. You might argue that different types of students have different needs, and should buy different types of computers. Again, it's up to you.

Whatever you choose to argue, however, you need to spell out your thesis clearly at the beginning of the essay, and then sustain the argument in favour of this thesis throughout the rest of the essay.

4. Your Structure

You should match your structure to your thesis. Think of your introductory paragraph as a kind of executive summary: get to the point quickly, and spell out your precise thesis right at the start.

If you're thinking at this point that this is a boring way to write, remember that there are many, many different ways in which to do this. You may begin with a short anecdote, to ease the reader into the essay, and then state the thesis -- again, it's up to you. Remember, though, be specific and on-point from the very first sentence of the essay.

There are an infinite number of ways to write a good introduction, but there are also an infinite number of ways to write a not-so-good one. If you have any questions, please contact me for advice.

The structure of the rest of your essay should unfold from the structure that you sketch in your introductory paragraph. Thus, think of this first paragraph as a roadmap, and go from there.

5. Your Conclusion

Your conclusion, meanwhile, should do more than just re-state what you have argued. Try to sum up your arguments in a witty and entertaining way. Remember that the conclusion is the last thing that the reader reads.

It's hard to give more detailed advice than this about a hypothetical essay, so don't hesitate to contact me if you would like more specific advice about your particular approach to this assignment.

Good luck!

Place for a laptop in NYC (5, Informative)

ubeans (449308) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637706)

Try J&R near city hall.

yep, JandR (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8637845)

check www.jandr.com first. the store prices might be a bit higher, but they have a very decent seelction/prices

Try here (0, Troll)

czelous (655752) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637710)

http://www.apple.com/retail/soho/

2 words... (-1, Offtopic)

Raindance (680694) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637711)

"White Van"

hehehe... (0, Troll)

Artana Niveus Corvum (460604) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637715)

well, first you go to the apple store...

Re:hehehe... (2, Insightful)

Omega1045 (584264) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637815)

I think they are looking for a cheap laptop...

Apple Store! (5, Informative)

American AC in Paris (230456) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637717)

any suggestions of how I can get a good laptop in the New York area when I am only there for 4 days?

Try the Apple Store in Soho. [apple.com] They'll have great laptops.

<tongue_in_cheek>Don't forget to declare your new laptop to customs [hmce.gov.uk] , though--if you don't, you'll be a damned, dirty tax cheat. Nobody likes a damned, dirty tax cheat.</tongue_in_cheek>

(Oh, bear in mind--you'll be stuck with a US QWERTY keyboard. No Euro key or Pound key, among other things--you'll need to remap and remember...)

Re:Apple Store! (3, Funny)

cabingirl (671963) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637809)

(Oh, bear in mind--you'll be stuck with a US QWERTY keyboard. No Euro key or Pound key, among other things--you'll need to remap and remember...)
You can buy keyboard stickers [kidglove.co.uk] to label keys.

Re:Apple Store! (5, Funny)

thumperward (553422) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637827)

All Apple machines use US keyboards anyway. This is why UK customers have email addresses like toomuchmoney"mac.com .

- Chris

Re:Apple Store! (5, Funny)

Mateito (746185) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637840)

As far as the US is concerned, the "#" is a pound sign, so you can always just use that.

And who in the UK needs a Euro key anyway? Filthy contiental imported crap....

Re:Apple Store! (4, Interesting)

grotgrot (451123) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637862)

bear in mind--you'll be stuck with a US QWERTY keyboard
As another Brit, that is fantastic. I like the logical layout of {semi-,}colon and the {single,double}-quotes on the US keyboard. I always go out of my way to get US keyboards wherever possible!

A number of places... (0, Redundant)

twstdr00t (78288) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637718)

UPS Store or a Business Center. They'll receive your packages for a fee.

Two-words... (-1, Redundant)

Justen (517232) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637721)

Forget about that Dell business. Michael is a pawn of Bush (or is it the other way around?) and their former spokesman was fired for a joint. (Word is he's now the spokesman for Dell Canada, instead?)

Two-words: Apple SoHo [apple.com] .

justen
(A Mac-fanatic Democrat, in case you couldn't tell...)

p.s. You might wanna' ask Her Majesty [hmce.gov.uk] about customs and such.

Re:Two-words... (0, Offtopic)

LookSharp (3864) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637793)

A Mac-fanatic Democrat, in case you couldn't tell...

You're proud of your labels, aren't you?

Thanks for sharing, anyway.

(A human being, in case you couldn't tell...)

Not quite... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8637725)

Turnaround on the best (i.e. built to order) laptops is bet. 1 and 2 weeks, so if you're only here for four days then you're pretty much screwed. If you can order it now and have it delivered to a friend here in the states, then pick it up when you get here, youll be better off. Do NOT by a lappy at the store, most store laptops are a very bad deal.

Difficult? (2, Informative)

karmaflux (148909) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637726)

No, damn-near impossible. No company will ship to a hotel unless they want export controls to prosecute their asses into the ground. There are laws specifically to prevent what you propose doing.

That said, you'll have to find a place to buy a computer face-to-face, then you get to either mail it to yourself or explain it to customs.

Re:Difficult? (1)

Anonymous Custard (587661) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637810)

There are laws specifically to prevent what you propose doing.

Nothing wrong with picking up a souvenier (sp?) from america, whether it's blue jeans, cd's or a computer, as long as he declares it at customs.

Re:Difficult? (1)

RazzleFrog (537054) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637869)

I wonder how Hotels get their computers if no-one would ship to them. I would think you could do it if the Hotel agreed to sign for it. Just don't put the address as room ???. "Export controls" (did you mean Bureau of Industry and Security?) is not going to prosecute anybody since there is nothing to say that a person staying at a hotel is not from this country.

And if you go to CompUSA or something why customs ever questions somebody going through with a laptop. I would imagine that people traveling with a laptop all the time. I would recommend buying a laptop bag, though. A desktop still in the Dell box I could see being a problem.

Order early (4, Insightful)

LookSharp (3864) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637731)

Order laptop in advance via credit card. Have the laptop shipped to a trusted friend or colleague. Pick up when you are in town.

Many retail establishments can offer mechandise on the spot here, thought not always the same level of customization that Dell offers.

2 Choices (1)

lukewarmfusion (726141) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637733)

Walk into a Best Buy or similar large electronics store. Buy something in stock. Usually, they have some machines at decent prices... the down side is that they may not be the machine you want. It sounds like you have some specific needs or demands.

Your other option is to buy something off Ebay, but again, you may not find what you want. Also, you may not trust Ebay/the Buyer/whatever else in that process.

$400 (1)

jhoger (519683) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637736)

Damn, I'll buy it and mail it... say $400 of the savings for me?

Reminder... (5, Funny)

4of12 (97621) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637737)


That in the USA we have different voltages, frequencies and plug shapes for power than you do in the UK.

Also, we drive on the right; you should catch the hang of it quickly if you cross your hands before putting them onto the keyboard.

Duty? (2, Redundant)

Dr. Evil (3501) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637740)

Wouldn't you have to pay duty on the laptop? $2k in purchases over a four day stay probably exceeds any allowance the U.K. has for computers.

Re:Duty? (1)

farulg (453780) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637814)

And don't forget the 8.625% New York City tax. That will add up to quite a bit on a $2000 purchase.

Re:Duty? (1)

radish (98371) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637828)

Officially, yes. In reality, no-one is ever checked coming off a transatlantic. The best bet is to mail CDs, manuals etc to yourself at home, and carry just the computer, charger etc. Then you can just claim that you took it with you all along. Don't forget to take the reciept out of your wallet!

Uh, CompUSA? (3, Insightful)

jayhawk88 (160512) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637741)

Maybe Best Buy or Fry's? You know, small little niche shops like that.

Seriously, unless you're hung up on Dell, any computer store will fall over themselves selling you a laptop.

Or am I missing a US/UK difference here? Does the UK just not have these kind of "walk in and buy it" type shops?

Re:Uh, CompUSA? (1)

LookSharp (3864) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637844)

Or am I missing a US/UK difference here? Does the UK just not have these kind of "walk in and buy it" type shops?

No, the reason he wants to buy here is that the weak dollar means that his Pounds Sterling spend bigger here. He's spending the equivalent of $2000 US for $3000 US in merchandise, theoretically.

Re:Uh, CompUSA? (1)

Wiz (6870) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637860)

Yeah, we've got PC World. They, erm, suck. Nothing like Fry's or anything good like that.

I think the main point of the article is that due to cost of a laptop in the UK and the weakness of the US dollar right now it makes a lot of sense to buy it in the US instead.

Most laptop PSUs these days will work at either voltage, so all you need is a plug adapter.

Get a Mac! (0, Offtopic)

theraccoon (592935) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637743)

Trying going here [apple.com] !

If you buy their extended warrenty, you get worldwide coverage for three years. Not a bad deal! :)

ooh ooh tips (-1, Troll)

tomstdenis (446163) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637746)

wrap a copper coil around your desktop and run the same amount of power yuppy americans waste on their latte machines every second through it for a picosecond or so....

oh shit wait... that was a jackass episode...

fuck you all you fucking /. readers and fuck your loose whore mothers too!!!

Tom

Re:ooh ooh tips (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8637826)

What's gotten into you? You used to be cool, Tom.

For anyone NOT going to the US... (5, Interesting)

Dot.Com.CEO (624226) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637748)

and still looking to benefit from the extra-low US dollar, I wholeheartidly and unreservedly suggest they try a forwarding agent. I use MyUS [myus.com] myself and they have flawlessly delivered everything I ordered from the US whereever I happened to be. It's great for these bargains that only seem to available to US citizens - I got an extra-cheap Zaurus from amazon.com last month for what is half the price of its price in Europe.

It goes without saying I'm not affiliated with them in any way, just an extremely happy customer. The inicial cost might appear steep but it's offset by your first major spend, really.

You will have to add at least VAT (2, Informative)

mocm (141920) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637749)

if not other customs payments. So it is a little more than the $2000, but probably still less than $2999. Or you could smuggle it in, but a large notebook may be hard to hide.

Re:You will have to add at least VAT (4, Informative)

jayhawk88 (160512) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637834)

Never flown internationally, but here's my question: How would they know?

You show up at the airport after your four days in New York, lugging a laptop and carrying bag. Just like probably 25% of the other passengers flying that day. How do they know you just purchased this laptop last night? Couldn't you just say "Yup, headed home from my business trip" or something? Or do they make you declare everything you have on you before entering the country? Seriously curious here.

Re:You will have to add at least VAT (1)

Doctor7 (669966) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637864)

Would be no problem at all, people coming in with laptops are not exactly unusual these days. This is all assuming he's smart enough to have it looking used, in a laptop bag, and not bring it home in the box :p

Re:You will have to add at least VAT (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8637863)

A good trick to same customs is to a a UK power cord with you and leave the US in the store. Do some grinding work on the outside of your brand new toy (that hurts) and place stickers in strategic loacations, put trash on your desktop etc...

Meet me in the park at 5 pm, bring cash (4, Funny)

CarrionBird (589738) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637754)

Brand new, just fell off the truck....

Ship it to me... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8637755)

... You can pick it up at my apartment.

The easiest way (1)

Doesn't_Comment_Code (692510) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637756)

"...any suggestions of how I can get a good laptop in the New York area when I am only there for 4 days?"

Hang out outside a nice hotel (where there's sure to be a conference) with a plastic gun.

Watch out for Taxes (2, Informative)

MerlynEmrys67 (583469) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637758)

Well you might end up paying sales taxes on top of the purchase price.

Also depending on the value - and your opinion of smuggling of course - you might have to declare the laptop as a foriegn purchase on returning to England. In that case you might have to play duties on the laptop.

I would hate for all of your "profit" to be eaten up in random taxes - so find out what taxes, duties, shipping, etc. you will end up paying. As I recall England has a VAT tax rather than a sales tax - might be where much of the 900 dollar difference lies

Re:Watch out for Taxes (2, Interesting)

duffbeer703 (177751) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637820)

The idea is to skip the duty.

You just carry your laptop in a laptop case and tell the guy that it's your work laptop.

If you declare it (2, Informative)

DR SoB (749180) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637759)

It will cost you a crap load of money for customs. If you don't declare it, it would be illegal to "carry" it across your border. If customs questions you, they will want proof of purchase for your laptop, if you can't prove it, and they find out your lying (i.e. checking the serial #), then you will be charged with lying to a customs offical and be fined well over $2000. Make sure you do some research, it's not your buying a $50 sweater and wearing it across.

Re:If you declare it (1)

Sexy Bern (596779) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637851)

I'd be more concerned about upsetting them and giving them reason to put the rubber gloves on...

Times Square (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8637760)

Make a sign that indicates you have a couple thousand on your person and that you are in the market for a laptop. I helpful citizen sales rep will shortly arrive to arrange your purchase.

Credit Card Adress Match (1)

wolf- (54587) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637768)

The biggest problem you may likely run into, is that the big online computer places will only ship to the billing address of your Credit card or an address listed as approved for shipments by your credit card company.

The second biggest problem you will run into with at least Dell (and this is really my only complaint with Dell) is that you order today...its might get approved tomorrow..."built"...then tested for 24 hours...packaged....then placed on Fedex/UPS truck for a day and THEN shipped overnight.

OMFG...... (5, Funny)

ellem (147712) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637770)

The US has become Mexico.

People are coming here to exploit our weak currency!

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Re:OMFG...... (-1, Flamebait)

tomstdenis (446163) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637858)

Hi, Bienvenue chez Canada, notre oh fuck it I forgot high school..

Um shittard, the cannuck buck has been about as worthful as your whore mother on a "toony tuesday" night...

Fucking smacktards, think your the first at everything... fuck... oh no, you're only a war criminal driven autocrazy.... and someone you think a momentary weak dollar [to be cured with strategic bombing of an orphanage hostel of mass destruction] is like shocking.

Here's a tip, get 1000$ of your US dollars, take a trip to Canada, buy a 230 acre estate and quit your bitching.

Tom

Apple SoHo Store (1)

aarku (151823) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637772)

Directions here [apple.com] to the retail store. I can highly recommend the 12" iBook or PowerBook.

Help! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8637773)

I'm going to be in the world's richest and most cultured city! The Big Apple, Gotham, The Capital of the World, The Naked City, The City that Never Sleeps! IS THERE ANYWHERE TO BUY A COMPUTER IN A CITY LIKE THIS? WHAT? Also! Where to find some recipes on Internet? But please, I need to know if electronics are available in NEW YORK FUCKING CITY because I'm a FUCKING RETARD and I honestly don't know the answer! THANK YOU!

Before you by read this!! (1)

briankeith (750876) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637776)

Just don't buy from the merchants on the street!!!! You would think this is obvious, but you may be tempted after a look or two.. if you lived in New York, this would be differebnt of course... but as a tourist you will get cheated. Don't even think about it!!

When in New York (1)

g0bshiTe (596213) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637777)

Hit the stores:
CompUSA
Best Buy
Circuit City
Just about any computer store.
Just beware the guy on the corner selling that way under proced laptop.
"It could burn your hands."
Don't forget to get a jolly good rodgering whilst you're here.

VAT or Low Dollar (1)

moehoward (668736) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637778)

To what extent is the price difference attributable to the VAT as opposed to the low dollar?

Seems that tech always costs more in Europe due to VAT issues.

Here in the states, you are supposed to pay the tax for items you buy from other states (pay your state tax, even though the purchase was made out of state. While most people don't actually do this, I was curious as to the laws involved when you purchase internationally. If you buy from the US, do you owe the UK VAT tax if you reside there and use it there?

Cheap,good laptop in New York? One word: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8637782)

Harlem.

issue! (1)

flok (24996) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637784)

Wasn't there a 110v/60Hz versus 230v/50Hz issue?

overnight shipping (1)

motorsabbath (243336) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637785)

any suggestions of how I can get a good laptop in the New York area when I am only there for 4 days?

Sure - overnight shipping on 2 back-to-back business days.

Find your local Costco (2, Informative)

j-turkey (187775) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637788)

I believe that Costco [costco.com] sells Dells now...here's their computers & peripherals page [costco.com] . There are a few of these stores in the NYC area. Go to their site and find a retailer closest to you. It's far easier than doing it mail-order (with your specific case in mind). You'll also (unfortunately) need to get a membership there which will cost you about $75 -- unless you've got a friend in the area with a membership or are really crafty.

Toshiba (2, Informative)

Cr3d3nd0 (517274) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637789)

As an ex Dell laptop user and current Toshiba Laptop User, let me recomend you stop off at the nearest electronics dealer and pick up a Toshiba laptop. I've had four laptops from them, and I've never had a single problem with any of them. They are stable, WELL constructed (example, instead of the crappy laptop speakers that Dell includes they have Harmon Kardon speakers, with a built in subwoofer, not exactly audiophile status but a hell of a lot better than most.) My current laptop has a 17' lcd who's native res is 1600x1200x32 Everywhere I go the first thing that people comment on is the quality of my screen. That on top of the fact that there is a minimum of crappy software installed, and a tech support line that is actually helpful puts Toshiba at the top for me.

I don't think you can buy a Dell from a Store (1)

kwelch007 (197081) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637790)

Our company, a "techie" company decided to buy our last set of Laptops from Best Buy. Approximately the same price and features as Mail order, but we have onsite service right here in town (well, we bought the extended warranty.) I think we've been really happy with the decision...we've had a could of problems, both of which were resolved same-day by the Best Buy staff. Of course, I don't know if you have Best Buy in the UK, so this may not be an option for you.

What about SCO ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8637791)

It's been almost 10 days since last SCO post ! Slashdot is sooooo boring without SCO post !!!!

Brick and Mortar (1)

InfiniteWisdom (530090) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637792)

You seem to have forgotten that we still do have brick and mortar stores. Its not all about the internet.

Times Square (4, Funny)

dr_dank (472072) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637797)

Seriously, the best place to buy stuff. I got a genuine Rollox wristwatch from a dude there.

Benefit from the low dollar?!?!?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8637799)

This is the most un-American article ever on Slashdot!

Shame on you!

Export Restrictions? (5, Informative)

Dekaner (72280) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637800)

Doesn't Dell ask you to affirm that you will not export the computer from the United States as part of their checkout process?

From Dell's shopping cart:

Export Intent
I WILL NOT export this order outside the United States.
I WILL export this order outside the United States.

The export of any product and software purchased from Dell must be made in accordance with all relevant laws of the United States, including and without limitation, the U.S. Export Administration Regulations. This may require that you obtain a formal export license or make certain declarations to the United States Government regarding product(s) to be exported, their destination or their end-use.

Ship-To Prohibitions: Please be informed that your designated ship to address must reflect the address of the ultimate end-user. Dell will not process any order which specifies an address of a freight forwarder, warehouse, distribution center, airport, hotel or PO box.

cars (1)

wmaker (701707) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637801)

I have an aunt and uncle jon and rosie who flew to europe to buy some fancy car, it was actually cheaper to fly, buy, and have it shipped to the states than to buy it here in the U.S. I forget what kind of car it was, probably a bmw or something.

before you reply, the answer is yes you can buy cars in europe with the steering wheel on the left side. ;)

go to the apple store (1)

TheLittleJetson (669035) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637804)

eom

I know a guy... (1)

BW_Nuprin (633386) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637805)

Sure! Its easy, just go to Central Park and ask for Julio, he's got laptops, small electronics... organs...

Good hotels do this (5, Interesting)

costas (38724) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637808)

Any good hotel (4 star and up, and good chain 3 stars) will sign for packages for you; just call the hotel, tell them you have a reservation, and ask how can you send a FedEx package to them for your personal delivery when you check-in. Get the name of the concierge/manager that gives you this information and ask for them by name on any follow-up calls. Give the info to Dell, make sure they put your name and "(Guest)" on the delivery and make it c/o of the person you have the name of, if possible. And don't forget to tip.

I can't imagine a decent NYC hotel not doing this; as a long-time business traveler, it's a perk you expect and is quite common.

US sold laptops probably only warranted in the US (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8637813)

One thing you should consider is warranty. I've only worked for Sony so I can't speak for any of the other manufacturers, but any laptop you buy in the US will probably only be warranted in the US.

Which means if it breaks, it's your dime to ship it back to the US. And then on top of that, they are going to wipe your HD before shipping it out of country back to you.

CompUSA (1)

Gangis (310282) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637819)

Look for a CompUSA [compusa.com] store. There are plenty in NYC. CompUSA carries many decent brands of laptops, all available for on-the-spot purchasing, including HP, Compaq, Toshiba and Sony. I highly recommend Toshiba, they give you the most bang for the buck.

VAT & taxes (2, Informative)

morcheeba (260908) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637822)

The $2999 includes a 17.5% VAT ($446), whereas the $2049 price doesn't include 8.625% NY tax ($176). I don't know the UK import laws, but be prepared if they ding you with an import tax (which may be the full VAT) when you come back with your new computer.

Um, taxes? Export law? (0, Redundant)

modder (722270) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637830)

"It makes it cheaper for me to fly to the US to buy it and carry it home than it is for me to buy it in the UK."

I'm just curious because I do not know your British ways:
Must you "declare" any big ticket items you may be bringing into your country?
Also, I recently ordered something from dell myself and noticed a checkbox I was forced to answer, before they processed my payments, which asks if I planned to take the item out of the country. I'm curious as to what kind of other stuff they ask you if you check "yes". (Or if you simply intend to check "no".)

J&R (4, Informative)

JohnGrahamCumming (684871) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637835)

The best reputable dealer in NYC is J&R Music and Computer World [jandr.com] . They have a good selection of laptop computers that you can buy and take away right there; naturally they don't have Dell since Dell sells through the web only.

You can start by taking a look at their selection on their web site here [jandr.com] . You'll pay the relevant sales taxes for New York (under 10%) but you'll get a much better deal than the Dell you are looking at.

Of course it's totally you to you whether you declare the thing when you arrive back in the UK and pay the relevant UK taxes.

John.

Keyboard Differences (1)

infinitex (686637) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637837)

Won't the keyboard changes be annoying? I have a British laptop here in the US, and the British layout pissed me off for a while (even after I remapped it, I couldn't find some keys).. Anyways, if you get stopped by customs, just say you had it before you came to the US :).

You can't (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8637838)

Lets face it. You simply can't buy a computer over the counter in the USA anymore. It takes weeks and the security checks are hell. Anyway, there are no computer stores in New York City. They are all in Round Rock, Texas. You should really rethink buying here, since your going to have to stuff it up your butt to get it through customs anyway.

Buy from the refurb pile. (1)

atheken (621980) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637843)

purchase your "new" laptop from the refurb pile, not only should it ship more or less immediately, it'll save you even more.

IBM eBay Store (2, Informative)

niko9 (315647) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637846)

Follow this link [ebay.com] to IBM's Authorized eBay store.

Heavily discounted new laptopts, directly from IBM. Usually 35 bucks for next day air.
They set up this site to clear old stock, old as in 3-6 mos.

There's also the IBM Ebay Global financing eBay (seach the eBay stores section) store, they do all refurbs. That's were I got my X22 almost 2 years ago, still runnning without any problems.

Disclaimer: Thinkpads are my favorite laptops.

Good Luck.

In NYC, just go downtown.... (1)

FerretFrottage (714136) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637847)

...stop in China town or the village. I'm sure you can find a Duh-el[sic] or Gatewey [sic] laptop for $5, they may even throw in a Rolex (although don't expect it to have the new USB watch connection)

Arbitrage Opportunity... (1)

jedi_gras (234700) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637848)

Spec out which one you want. I will buy and handle the shipping..and set it up as a "gift" so you will be the owner of the laptop. I will need the $$$ up front to purchase the laptop.

When you get to NYC, I will meet up and drop it off to you. In exchange, I would like $300 USD. Weekend drop-off preferred.

Regards,
Brad

Pay my fare and I'll bring it to you! (2, Funny)

tigre (178245) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637855)

If it's that much cheaper, buy me a plane ticket and I'll buy the computer, then you pay me for it. I get a trip to London, you save even more money (no hotel costs in NY).

Best Deals in USA (1)

skooba (708001) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637859)

1) Ebay. Pay close attention to the seller's feedback, and you will get the best deal, often with a decent warranty. Also beware of resellers on ebay, because with them, you're not saving any money. Plus, you'll save yourself the cost of a plane ticket.

2) CompUSA. They have good prices and a decent warranty.

3) Best Buy. Good prices, but pay close attention to the fine print on the warranty. Also, their turnaround time on warranty repairs is abysmal.

42nd Street, west of Times Square (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8637865)

Oh, you said laptop? I thought you said lap dance. Sorry.

Well, now you know where to spend the money you saved. :-)

apple store (1)

munboy (732717) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637866)

go to www.apple.com/retail and find a apple store close to your hotel and buy a powerbook. best laptop ever. Muneer

Don't buy a Dell :) (1)

Supp0rtLinux (594509) | more than 10 years ago | (#8637871)

In NY you will readily find hundreds of retail outlets that carry brands such as IBM, Sony, Compaq|HP, etc. You will also find Gateway Country stores that sell Gateways. Dell has a few, select retail outlets, but I'm not sure of any in NY. There's also Apple and the Apple stores, of which there are at least 6 in NY.

If you're really sold on Dell, the order it and have it drop shipped to the FedEx or UPS depot nearest your hotel. Then drive over there and show ID to pick it up.

The only thing necessary for Micro$oft to triumph is for a few good programmers to do nothing". North County Computers [nccomp.com]
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