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Political Pop-ups, and Follow the Money

michael posted more than 10 years ago | from the spend-a-buck-or-two dept.

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finelinebob writes "Now we know why Bush wants broadband for everyone: The Republican National Committee plans on bringing the campaign to Internet pop-up ads. From the article: 'Internet experts said that Republicans have entered a new realm of campaigning. Pop-up and pop-under ads of any variety haven't been around long, and little data exist to suggest how voters might respond to uninvited interruptions.' Okay, folks -- get your pop-up blocking browsers now!" While you're waiting for your first pop-up, pop on over to a website that tracks campaign contributions: vVF4N writes "Fundrace 2004 lets you enter any street address and see what people at or near that location have contributed to a presidential candidate, along with their addresses and occupations. The data is based on reports that campaigns regularly file with the Federal Election Commission. You can also look up a name and get the same information. The Washington Post (registration required) has more. Find out who your friends and neighbors are contributing to."

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380 comments

Pop ups (5, Insightful)

krymsin01 (700838) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701487)

So instead of using the Internet to rally and energize the American public into voting for them, they are going to use it to furthor alienate and annoy us with pop-ups? Are they that out of touch that they believe pop-ups are actualy going to give them some sort of edge?

Re:Pop ups (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8701518)

Will someone please explain why this is offtopic?

Re:Pop ups (4, Interesting)

TomV (138637) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701674)

or: As well as using the internet to rally and energise the American Public into voting for them, they are going to use it to further alienate and annoy everyone outside the US without a vote in the US elections with pop-ups? Are they that out of touch that they believe these pop-ups are actually going to be limited to US voters only?

Yay! (5, Funny)

ColourlessGreenIdeas (711076) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701488)

An oppertunity for the republicans to annoy everyone. That's what I like to see.

Re:Yay! (1)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701532)

Spammers for Bush! Surefire way to become as populatr with the public as, say, X-10!

California's Bill Jones Spammed last time (4, Informative)

billstewart (78916) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701670)

Bill Jones [jonesforcalifornia.com] is a California Republican who's running for Senate this year against Barbara Boxer. Back in 2002, when he was Secretary of State and trying to get the Republican nomination to run for governor (Bill Simon beat him, and lost to Gray Davis, who was later recalled and replaced by Ahnold), his campaign sent out a bunch of email spam, and got spanked by the net.

So here in California, the Republicans already have lots of practice annoying Internet users. Let's hope they keep it up!

Re:Yay! (1)

robbyjo (315601) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701533)

Well, let's wait a while... if it makes them unpopular, they'll stop it for sure. They can't afford losing their supporters. I guess they're just experimenting on a new idea, just like sending spam is. I personally never received their spam yet, but some people actually welcomed it. Unsure about the pop-up ads though.

*groan! (4, Funny)

manavendra (688020) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701494)

As if pr0n pop-ups werent enough, we'll now have Dubya and others popping up and asking to vote for them.
Wonder if the internet usage policy will classify Dubya with his silly grin as "distasteful, objectionable content" :-)

Republican Popups Taking Over Your Screen (5, Funny)

billstewart (78916) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701627)

Single popups are bad enough, but just wait until the Republicans try those rapid-fire take-over-your-screen can't-hit-the-X-fast-enough popups. "Terrorists might be hiding under your bed!" "Democrats are Liberal Liberal Liberal!" "Weapons of Mass Destruction!" "Our Enemies are EEEEVILLLLL!" "Yellow Alert No, Orange Alert! No, Yellow Alert!" "Pink Alert - Gay People Might Destroy Your Marriage Unless You let Us Repeal The Constitution!" "Don't Vote Democrat or Terrorists Will Squish This Hamster!" "Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid!" "Don't Worry, Republicans Will Protect You!" "Pay No Attention to the Web Bug Behind This Window!" "CLick the Dancing Osama To Fight Terrorism!" "Click the Dancing Osama to Vote Republican!" "If you Don't see the Fnords, they won't eat you!" "Homeland Security works if We All Cooperate!"

more *groan! (4, Funny)

spellraiser (764337) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701693)

Pop-up and pop-under ads of any variety haven't been around long ... ???

They've been around TOO long. More specifically, they have been around, period.

Could be worse (1)

Phekko (619272) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701707)

Imagine a NUDE Dubya pop-up ;)

Re:Could be worse (1)

manavendra (688020) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701757)

Oh hell no! that would be laughing matter! :-

Re:*groan! (3, Funny)

WWWWolf (2428) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701768)

Wonder if the internet usage policy will classify Dubya with his silly grin as "distasteful, objectionable content" :-)

According to some porn filters [dansdata.com] , yes, pictures of GWB are vile pornography. =)

Oh bloody hell (5, Funny)

NemesisStar (619232) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701496)

If this means I get "Vote for Bush" popups in Australia I'm going to be very upset.

I'd prefer a 12" penis any day!

Re:Oh bloody hell (0, Offtopic)

krymsin01 (700838) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701505)

Would you like to know more?

Re:Oh bloody hell (3, Interesting)

meringuoid (568297) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701507)

Well, the annoying thing is... whoever wins this election will be deciding what my country's foreign policy is going to be. Yet I don't get a vote in it. Isn't it great living in a vassal state?

And now, just to rub it in, they're going to pop up their campaign ads at me. Brilliant.

Re:Oh bloody hell (2, Insightful)

Trailwalker (648636) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701595)

..living in a vassal state?


Don't get too excited by this, we have fifty of them here.

Re:Oh bloody hell (1)

SillyNickName4me (760022) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701773)

> Don't get too excited by this, we have fifty of them here.

Except for the fact that the peopel livign in those 50 can still vote.. not that it really makes a difference this time.. (hmm. come to think of it, it didn't matter much last time either)

Re:Oh bloody hell (0, Offtopic)

Aneurysm9 (723000) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701580)

you mean you wouldn't rather have a 5'+ dick?

Re:Oh bloody hell (0, Offtopic)

Sj0 (472011) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701704)

Or a +5 longsword of babemagnitism? ;)

Re:Oh bloody hell (1)

Nighttime (231023) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701581)

If this means I get "Vote for Bush" popups in Australia I'm going to be very upset.

Seems that they don't realise that the first two double-ewes stand for world-wide. Is there any way that the web server can tell which country the request is coming from and not display the ad?

Re:Oh bloody hell (2, Informative)

Dave2 Wickham (600202) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701672)

Many ad companies already do use location targetted ads - I often see Sainsbury's, Switch etc ads on US sites. Of course this isn't 100% foolproof, but it did even work with my old (pre-RIPE) IP.

Re:Oh bloody hell (2, Informative)

Matthias Wiesmann (221411) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701786)

Many ad companies already do use location targetted ads - I often see Sainsbury's, Switch etc ads on US sites. Of course this isn't 100% foolproof, but it did even work with my old (pre-RIPE) IP.
In my experience this is quite random. In my case (I'm Swiss), I get quite a variety of adds, beside the one for the US, I get some for France and some for Germany, nothing for Italy yet (Italian is the third langage spoken in Switzerland). At least I seem not to get proposals to move my money to a Swiss bank account anymore...

I suspect the system used to select adds is quite primitive, and I'm simply too strange a case to get tailored adds.

Re:Oh bloody hell (5, Funny)

Surlyboi (96917) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701695)

You're in luck then, because if you vote Bush, you get Dick for free!

In other news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8701501)

... everyone who has a net connections gets immensely pissed off at Republicans and Bush gets the boot. Yay.

MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8701508)

The intro to this article mentions Opera and Mozilla - forget it, there's much better out there. I've tried every browser out there, and for nearly 6 months now I've used MyIE2. It "takes over" IE2 and runs as a seperate program - not only does it do pop-up blocking, it also does _content_ blocking. My eyes are open, the internet (and slashdot) no longer has ads - try it, try it, try it (if you're stuck in Windows).

Freeware. http://www.myie2.com

Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8701529)

Alternatively, you could just download the Google toolbar... No popups in IE... Sorted.

Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (3, Insightful)

linuxci (3530) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701539)

Why would you want to do that when you can get the cross platform Firefox that doesn't have the inbuilt holes that anything that embeds IE has.

Also IMO Firefox has a nicer interface.

Note: MyIE2 does also support the Gecko engine in recent versions but enabling it isn't obvious and there's a few bugs in the integration.

Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (1)

AndrewHowe (60826) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701577)

I downloaded Firefox, hmm it was OK, not too bad looking and the type-ahead find was cute.
Unfortunately, when I tried to download new themes I found out that it's buggy. If you try to download more than one thing, it says it's finished as soon as you click on the second thing. Then after a while it crashes.
Not my idea of a "nicer interface"...

Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (3, Informative)

SenseiLeNoir (699164) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701770)

yes its a bug... but then again, FireFox is not YET v1.0

If you download an extension/theme, you have to immeadiately restart the browser to clear the install queue.

Otherwise when you download the next one, you will get *TWO" restart messages (and increasing each time)

This bug WILL be fixed by 1.0, and is hardly what you call serious, and better by far than IE, which requires to you restart the system at times.

Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8701785)

Not serious? The browser crashed! When does IE require me to restart the system?

Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (1)

SillyNickName4me (760022) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701796)

Hmm, interesting... you'd think that bug would be easy to reproduce.. yet its not, at least not on the firefox I'm usign here..

Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8701804)

Well, I hope you're not suggesting that I'm lying. See the other reply to my post, where someone admits it's a bug.

Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (1)

SillyNickName4me (760022) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701846)

I'm not implying you are lying, I am implying that it is a bug that should not be hard to spot, and it surprises me. Bugs in OSS software are entirely possible ;)

Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (2, Informative)

Slack3r78 (596506) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701564)

It's probably worth noting that IE will do popup blocking itself beginning with SP2. Microsoft has already released SP2 RC1 [microsoft.com] for public download, for those of you that like to live on the edge. In addition, it upgrades the Windows Firewall to what I think of as a ZoneAlarm lite, which isn't half bad considering it's a freebie for windows users.

I'll personally stick to Firefox, but in the few days I've been running the SP2 RC1 on my windows box, I have to say I'm impressed, and it's a step in the right direction.

Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (4, Insightful)

mandalayx (674042) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701591)

The intro to this article mentions Opera and Mozilla - forget it, there's much better out there. I've tried every browser out there, and for nearly 6 months now I've used MyIE2. It "takes over" IE2 and runs as a seperate program - not only does it do pop-up blocking, it also does _content_ blocking. My eyes are open, the internet (and slashdot) no longer has ads - try it, try it, try it (if you're stuck in Windows).


You do realize, right, that the point of using Mozilla Firefox is not just popup blocking. In fact, it's going to be hard to market Firefox on the aspect of pop-up blocking when you have options like you mentioned and the Google toolbar.

For me, the point of using Firefox is having a browser that I don't need to worry about. When I use IE, I'm not sure whether the next link will take me to an exploit. Or some annoying script. I don't really have that worry with Firefox....not yet..

Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8701606)

Pure, unsubstantiated, handwaving, anti-MS FUD.

Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (1)

Sj0 (472011) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701713)

You people are funny. Probably because you use gator. ^ ^

Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8701738)

Well, I'm laughing at you...

Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (1)

Sj0 (472011) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701817)

Slashdot is such a happy place. ^ ^

Re:MyIE2 is pop-up blocking & content blocking (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8701622)

Mozilla Firefox does content blocking also, with the Adblock extension. It's easy to install and rather effective. See http://texturizer.net/firefox/extensions/#adblock

block ads with a hosts file (2, Informative)

gad_zuki! (70830) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701678)

Very, very simple to do [everythingisnt.com] and if you must use IE, just get the google toolbar for pop-up blocking.

Let Me Guess... (3, Funny)

illuminata (668963) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701519)

Soon, we'll find that John F. Kerry tries to counter this with 30 second flash intros. Listen to that thumping techno beat and kick ass effects!

Oh, what about Nader, you ask? He won't use computers. Apparently they pollute or something. He wants monitors banned because of their adverse health effects, too. But, his rumbling will be heard across the world anyways, so don't you worry!

DMCA (3, Insightful)

epcraig (102626) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701731)

Vote for Kerry, vote for the DMCA.

Vote for Bush, vote for the DMCA.

Nader ran against the DMCA in 2000, I can't see why he'd change his mind in 2004.

Kucinich, too, ran against the DMCA. Pity nobody cared.

Okay, folks -- get your pop-up blocking browsers.. (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8701523)

Under provision 911.666 of the PATRIOT II act, any method of circumventing the delivery of any advertisement form is considered an act of terrorism, punishable by life imprisonment in a forest labour camp, or summary execution. RFID signals broadcast from advertisements will be used in conjunction with the RFID tags now secretly being placed in your contact lenses to permit 24 hour total penis enlargement awareness.

Found My Boss on there (3, Funny)

Stubtify (610318) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701524)

And he donated the max ($2000) Geeze I guess times we're *that* tough this year.

Re:Found My Boss on there (1)

ziggy_zero (462010) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701844)

My favorite part is how Donald Trump donated 2 grand to both Bush AND Kerry. Either he's just a generous guy or talk about playing the field....

it's all making some sense... (5, Funny)

monkease (726622) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701528)

cia: there are weapons of mass destruction in iraq!
bush: okay!
cia: and americans love pop-up ads!
bush: okay!

Thanks Bush (4, Funny)

linuxci (3530) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701535)

Looks like he'll be doing the first useful thing in his presidential career...

Giving people a reason to ditch IE and run Firefox! :)

Still he's not getting my vote, well as I'm English I couldn't anyway!

coming up next: campaign spam (5, Funny)

slart42 (694765) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701550)

v.ote for b.ush!!

asfhjku hdsjhkf hdfhbio

follow the money (5, Interesting)

ashot (599110) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701557)

looks to me like a very interesting graphical representation of voter contributions, it seems a little scary though that I can access the name and address of everyone in my zipcode who contributed x amount of money to x candidate; I can see why it is necessary to keep these records public, but I can also see some potential for mis-use. Anyone else have this thought?

Re:follow the money (1)

Aneurysm9 (723000) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701600)

Clarify the potential for misuse please. Are you saying, for example, that I should be afraid of my boss finding out who I contributed to and retaliating because of it?

Re:follow the money (1)

sumdumass (711423) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701636)

That would be one way of missuse, another would be some hellbent fanatic going on a killing spree because his canidate didn't get elected.

Yet another and more practicle scenario could be were the elected official kept regular tabs on this and prefered certain contractors for certain jobs because of it.

All of these scenarios seem ileagle but whats stoppignthem. I mean there isn't and check on who's checking. could be done at any time by any person. the scary part is how hard it would be to prove nay allegation like this.

Re:follow the money (1)

Aneurysm9 (723000) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701649)

Ok, time to take off the tinfoil hat. ;) Any wacko who's going to go on a killing spree because his candidate didn't get elected is more likely to do it randomly or find a rally for the opposing politician at which to wreak havoc. He doesn't need contributor info for that. And, as for the candidates themselves, they already have that info, it comes on the checks they get and they're the ones providing it to the FEC, who then makes it available to sites like that.

Re:follow the money (1)

sumdumass (711423) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701811)

well the tinfoil hat is off but, the killing spree was just thrown out thier as an option. as far as the canidate having the info? well he has the info about his contributers but not the oposing canidates. It kind of goes back to the "political machine" in chicogo were this actually happend.

I'm not really saying anything like this will happen just that the possability is there and it may be harder to catch because there isn't any formal record of the canidate requesting the information.

Re:follow the money -- it's a good thing... (3, Interesting)

BadElf (448282) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701753)

There's potential for mis-use, but talk about an eye-opener. How many average citizens would take the time to request this data from the FEC?

A quick lookup of my street address was extremely insightful. I recognized many of the names from my years in the business community and guess what? Most of the Republican donors are owners and officers of companies who have been laying off workers (and outsourcing their work) with most contributing $2000 checks from every person in their household. The Dems, on the other hand, had more contributors, but they were much smaller contributions ($50 - $500) and mostly from small business owners and average Joe's -- many retirees.

Now I can see for myself why the Bushies have over $100M at their disposal, while Kerry's only at $22M or so. Knowing where the money is coming from helps show where government will be going -- and if Bush wins, it will be going into Big Business's back pocket.

Re:follow the money (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8701760)

It helps people who like to vote by other means. I like to go out the night before elections with a valve-core remover. Anybody with a Bush-themed bumper sticker on their SUV gets their tires rendered useless so they can't vote in the morning. Much more effective than those "ballot" things that you can only get one of.

what are these "pop-ups" of which you speak? (0)

DrSkwid (118965) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701558)


Some kind of junk breakfast cereal?

Oh, is it part of the world of commerce?

Sorry, my OS doesn't do advertisment, it's not aimed at "consumers" for whom using it is an "experience".

Re:what are these "pop-ups" of which you speak? (1)

sumdumass (711423) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701659)

Pop ups are thoise things that get everyone made at for happening but nom madder how many time you tellthen what to do to stop it they look at you like your crazy.

"but it said click here? why would it say that if i wasn't supposed to click there?" and my favorite of all time. "well my pc clock gets about 5 minute behind after a while, i need that program installed so i don't work extra time, can't you just stop the pop-ups? it seems i spend more time closing them than i do working"

Reminds of of their "anti-spam" provisions (3, Interesting)

fuzzybunny (112938) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701568)

Wasn't there some discussion about provisions in the CAN-SPAM act to exempt "informative" political messages?

At that level, I wouldn't be surprised if popup blockers and filters against political spam were somehow to run afoul of DMCA (circumvention devices!) and friends. You MUST view this popup, we're checking! Honest! :)

No don't block popups! (1)

Alien Conspiracy (43638) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701574)

How else is my browser-based instant messenger supposed to work?

Re:No don't block popups! (2, Informative)

iapetus (24050) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701612)

By allowing specific sites only to popup windows. Certainly possible with Firefox, probably with Mozilla. Not sure about Opera, though it makes sense that it would support it too.

So now ... (1, Flamebait)

Jackdaw Rookery (696327) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701607)

Which part of 'this won't work' don't the republicans get? If the pop up works, it annoys, and they lose. But most of the time wouldn't this be blocked now?

I's bet the majority of us have browsers that block pop-ups, even IE now blocks pop-ups.

So are they aiming at the people to dumb to upgrade browers? Uh, hang on, this is starting to make sense.

"Republicans, appealing to the lowest common denominator since 1978."

Re:So now ... (3, Interesting)

DietVanillaPepsi (763129) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701769)

"Republicans, appealing to the lowest common denominator since 1978."

Democrats do the same. Most politicians within this two-party system do the same. They appeal to the lowest common denominator.

I used to feel that my intelligence was insulted everytime I heard a politician speak on an issue. Over time, I have realized that politicians must appeal to their bases: people who are fanatical about the political party to which they belong, which makes them too blind to examine the issues beyond taking their candidates proclamations as gospel and people who are too dumb to examine the issues in any way, shape or form and vote for a particular party because that's what they've always done. The rest of the electorate is forever voting for the lesser of two evils.

fundrace is interesting... (1)

Doobian Coedifier (316239) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701610)

OMFG it's late but I couldn't resist playing with this thing. Hmmm...

Bill Gates [fundrace.org] gave Bush $2000.
Couldn't find anything on Jobs, Allen, McBride, Schwarzenegger, Mel Gibson.

Searching for Bush [fundrace.org] shows George HW, Barbara, and Jeb all chipped in $2000. Donations from random "Bushes" seems to be skewed towards Bush. Searching for Kerry [fundrace.org] shows every "Kerry" contributed to Kerry.

What other interesting names can be discovered in here?

So I guess Slashdot (2, Insightful)

FatAssBastard (530195) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701613)

...is now michael's personal forum for his political views? FWIW, I've been planning on voting against the current president for a long time now. Someone like David Duke would have to have received the Democratic nomination in order for me to fail to vote Democratic in November, 2004.

That being said, that's two articles on the current main page posted by michael that have an anti-Bush tone to them. I guess michael doesn't care about being "fair and balanced" as a journalist.

Re:So I guess Slashdot (0, Flamebait)

Sj0 (472011) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701740)

So.....in order to be "fair and balanced"..... ......you have to.....silence.............stories that.........make people that make bad decisions like this......look....bad.....

Just shut up and go home, you damn hippy. Nobody wants or needs your brand of "fair".

Re:So I guess Slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8701779)

Sarcasm doesn't require that many periods.

Re:So I guess Slashdot (1)

Sj0 (472011) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701831)

no, but it definitely helps. This *IS* slashdot, and some people just need a little reminder. :)

Re:So I guess Slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8701789)

What do you expect?
Should he not say anything anti-nazi so that he is fair and balanced? There is a limit to what people can be expected to tolerate.

Viarga Now! (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8701618)

I can definitely see Kerry in Viagra "Popups"

My wife..er.. financier strong recommends it... :-)

If I were Bush, I would be a bit wary about (3, Insightful)

mandalayx (674042) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701619)

If I were Bush, I would be a bit wary about Internet marketing. Clay Shirky makes an interesting and insightful dissection [corante.com] on what went right and wrong with Dean and his internet campaign here:

What follows is a long musing on the Dean campaign's use of internet tools, but it has a short thesis: the hard thing to explain is not how the Dean campaign blew such a huge lead, but rather why we ever thought that lead actually existed. Dean's campaign didn't just fail, it dissolved on contact with reality.


Extensive reading, but just read line by line.

Of course, though, we know that the GOP has done better in communicating their message [npr.org] , while the Democrats continue to fail Influence 101 [w-uh.com] ...a sad sight.

Bill is a cheapskate (1, Flamebait)

amigoro (761348) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701625)

William H. Gates
CEO
Microsoft Corp.
George W. Bush
$2,000
1 Microsoft Way Redmond, WA 98052

GWB saved Gates' shiny white hind, and all he gives in return is 2000 dollars. Ingrateful sod!

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Dean is a Traitor!!!!! (1)

amigoro (761348) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701641)

HOWARD M. DEAN
RETIRED
DEAN FOODS CO.
George W. Bush
$2,000
716 SOUTH OAK St HINSDALE, IL 60521

Re:Bill is a cheapskate (2, Informative)

umofomia (639418) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701664)

GWB saved Gates' shiny white hind, and all he gives in return is 2000 dollars. Ingrateful sod!
That's because the hard-money presidential campaign contribution limit is $2000 per individual.

Re:Bill is a cheapskate (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8701671)

Don't you think the grand parent was meant as a joke?

Re:Bill is a cheapskate (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8701688)

True... tho not everyone on slashdot may know that fact... especially the non-americans.

Re:Bill is a cheapskate (3, Insightful)

hughk (248126) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701689)

But it won't list the $10000/plate campaign dinners though will it?

defences & backfires (1)

Avishalom (648759) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701644)

Many people here claim that this will backfire mainly because it will annoy everyone.
this is not true,
let me demonstrate with a little gedanken experiment.

1) would these popups annoy you ?
2) would you have considered voting for GW if it were'nt for those popups?

I think that this campaign is better targetted than one may think.
Remember that if spam & aggressive marketing were not economically viable, they would not exist
---
i'll stop here, because the next conclusion is not PC, (actually though i believe that conclusion, it would (rightly so) be considered flamebait)

--
now, (OT) since nobody mentioned THIS [mozilla.org] favorite blocker... (i also use it to block flash advertisement, which is the best feature in the history of browsers)

Re:defences & backfires (1)

gad_zuki! (70830) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701687)

>Remember that if spam & aggressive marketing were not economically viable, they would not exist

Yes, but only for scams and high profit items like cheapo plastic penis pumps that cost pennies to produce and sell for 20-100 dollars.

On top of that, the spam you get in your mailbox is usually from an open proxy, thus it probably wouldnt be profitable if the senders actually paid for their own bandwidth, opt-out servers, etc.

Legitimate ads aren't that profitable and spam is rarely profitable outside of a select range of items (fake viagra, herbal scams, etc).

brotherly love? (3, Interesting)

aarku (151823) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701650)

Governor John Bush only gave his brother $1000 [fundrace.org] ?
Zing!

Re:brotherly love? (1)

Aneurysm9 (723000) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701667)

Maybe he forgot that they slipped that donation increase into McCain-Feingold to further stick it to the Dems.

Ah! A Democrat plot! (1)

Lurker McLurker (730170) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701657)

It's obvious. Some liberal masquerading as a Republican has suggested to the GOP that they use this tactic. Now the Republicans will piss everyone off and lose votes.

But not as much as when they start sending spam.

Re:Ah! A Democrat plot! (1)

Sj0 (472011) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701765)

I haven't seen a republican YET that wasn't a liberal in disguise.

Hello? 'No strings attached' "liberation" from fascist right wing dictators, replacing said dictators with a form of government designed(in theory) to allow equality and freedom for all? tens of billions of dollars given for free, no strings attached to this desert country in the middle of nowhere? Largest deficit in US history?

Son, you've been DUPED. The republicans are just a bunch of useless pinko lefties in disguise.

Great news for Kerry voters (2, Informative)

gad_zuki! (70830) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701668)

Keeping digging your own grave, Rove.

If they want to alienate voters and come off as money-hungry vultures, then pop-ups and spam are the way to go.

Its pretty ironic when Bush has over 100 million sitting in his war chest, which has broken all previous records. Thats what you get for pandering to big business for almost four years, a nice return on your investment.

oposite effect? (1)

sumdumass (711423) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701676)

So if i wanted another canidate to loose then i should start sponsoring adds for them as pop-ups instead. interesting,

Maybe they are going to use some agency that has them convinced that people ask for the pop-ups when they installed thier spyware (insert covert marketing name here)

They must not actually use the net... (2, Interesting)

JLeslie (710921) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701724)

The use of pop-up ads really seem to suggest that they don't ever use the web. Or at least not ofen enough to know how annoying, and pretty useless, pop up (or pop under) ads are.

It's similiar to how so many of the top spammers admit to being computer illiterate before discovering spam as a way to make money. And it's the same reason scalpers are rarely fans of the band or sports team they sell tickets for. Anyone with a vested interest in the activity will not want to destroy it.

Alright, I'll admit that pop ups are not destroying the web, but I stand by the fact that those who advocate their use must rarely surf the web themselves.

Nothing changes (3, Funny)

Karem Lore (649920) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701739)

Don't know about you, but this won't change a thing. I've had popups offering me BUSH for years...

now i know who my neighbors vote for (5, Insightful)

jtcm (452335) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701750)

I had a knee-jerk reaction to browsing this database filled with no less than a dozen of my friends', families', and aquaintances' political affiliations with corresponding addresses. My inner-self cried "INVASION OF PRIVACY! ABORT! ABORT!"

I then took a mental step back, collected my wits, and clicked the "Privacy" link. lo and behold: [fundrace.org]

All the information presented on Fundrace.org is part of the public record and provided by the Federal Election Commission of the United States.

Anyone who contributes "hard money" to political campaigns must provide personal information. This requirement limits the political influence of wealthy, anonymous individuals and allows the public to track financial contributions that may influence the political process.

Upon further investigation it becomes apparent that this site is a Very Good Thing(tm). It is a bastion of democracy.

Fundrace, I salute you.

Fundrace (1)

BandwidthHog (257320) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701754)

Showed lots of contributions in my town, but not mine. So very cool, but not 100%.

Re:Fundrace (1)

markt4 (84886) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701803)

When and how much did you contribute? Fundrace's info is as of February 29, 2004 and campaign finance law only requires this information be collected for contributions of $200 or more.

Easy fix? (1)

SillyNickName4me (760022) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701762)

If they have to pay per advertisement served or clicked... lets write a bit of perl and try to lighten their warchest a bit ;P

Safari! (2, Informative)

haskins_sam (653585) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701763)

Not only do Opera, Firefox, and MyIE2 all block popups, but so to does the Apple web browser Safari! It is also the standard browser.

Our favorite neighbors... (2, Funny)

nacturation (646836) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701781)

Oh, this is going to be very fun! [fundrace.org] .

A touch of irony... (3, Funny)

Goose In Orbit (199293) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701813)

In an article about pop-ups, three sponsored links to pop-up blockers ... and a pop-up!

Ho hum...

Err (1)

Seven001 (750590) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701816)

Oddly enough, yesterday I saw a flash side-bar ad with Bush's face on it and asking "Should Bush be reelected". I don't think it was a campaign ad, but still, his picture was quite disturbing.

Now I have two reasons not to contribute (1, Insightful)

frdmfghtr (603968) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701825)

(1) As was said in The Hunt for Red October,"I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar...when I'm not kissing babies I'm stealing their lollipops." I don't support any organized political party because politicans are representing their represented citizens less and the ideals of the party more.

(2) If a contribution is going to reveal my HOME ADDRESS then you can fuggeddaboutit!

the political funding database is incomplete (3, Funny)

thebeast25 (753698) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701836)

It doesn't list the Bin Laden family contributions???

Pop-up and ad blocking browser (-1)

jeet (172572) | more than 10 years ago | (#8701850)

I use Mozila firefox and it certainly has better pop-up blocking and ad blocking extensions.
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