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Spammer's Porsche Up For Grabs

timothy posted more than 10 years ago | from the please-go-with-the-house-ideas dept.

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gaurab writes "Anti-Spammers would love this. In this news piece, the BBC reports that AOL is putting up a Porsche it seized from a spammer last year in a sweepstakes. What next -- 'Spammer's House' in another sweepstakes? Is this the sign of things to come? From the story: 'Internet giant AOL has ratcheted up the war against unsolicited e-mail with a publicity-grabbing coup -- an online raffle of a spammer's seized Porsche. AOL won the car -- a $47,000 Boxster S -- as part of a court settlement against an unnamed e-mailer last year.'"

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Does it come with a CD Multiplayer? (5, Funny)

Claws Of Doom (721684) | more than 10 years ago | (#8712857)

And any guesses what they'll fill it with?

Re:Does it come with a CD Multiplayer? (4, Funny)

nathanhart (754532) | more than 10 years ago | (#8712867)

AOL CD's no doubt

No.... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8712919)

you're thinking of the trunk.

Re:No.... (1)

nathanhart (754532) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713090)

You're right, think they will throw in a AOL running man to hang from your mirror?

Re:Does it come with a CD Multiplayer? (2, Insightful)

oateater (593228) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713215)

AOL spams snail mail; Spammers spam email; AOL wins. Hmmmm....

Jennifer! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8712859)

Jennifer, I love you!

Re:Jennifer! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8713050)

You have failed to profess your love in a first post. Now, all resident slashdotters have free reign to "get all boned up on your missus".

Re:Jennifer! (-1)

terriblekarmanow tm (592883) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713192)

She can't answer right now, what with my cock in her toothless mouth and all, but I think she's trying to shake her head under those tears.

Sorry, man. I guess some people just aren't made for each other.

hmm (4, Insightful)

mandalayx (674042) | more than 10 years ago | (#8712869)

AOL won the car - a $47,000 Boxster S - as part of a court settlement against an unnamed e-mailer last year.

"We'll take cars, houses, boats - whatever we can find and get a hold of," said AOL's Randall Boe.

According to Mr Boe, the Porsche's previous owner made more than $1m by sending junk e-mail.


Nice car, but....you're telling me the spammer made $1mm+ and all AOL got was a $47k Porsche?

Well, I suppose the publicity might work, like how the RIAA got many people to think that copyright violations = stealing.

Re:hmm (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8712886)

Who cares, I'm already planning my customized license plate for it: INBOXSTR

It just works on so many levels.

Re:hmm (2, Insightful)

mandalayx (674042) | more than 10 years ago | (#8712914)

Who cares, I'm already planning my customized license plate for it: INBOXSTR

It just works on so many levels.

cute, but sadly 8 characters--won't fit on most US license plates.

Perhaps INBOXSR. Not as cool, but 7.

Hey, I smell a good product name for a spam killer. Inboxster. Like Aimster, except the slutty girl goes to the spam file. not a single google result, either [google.com] .

Re:hmm (2, Informative)

JoeBar (546577) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713093)

I thought you could fit 8 characters on license plates here? 8 works in New York.. I got "F0RMAT C" on my 911 ;)

Re:hmm (2, Informative)

Mr Guy (547690) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713137)

From NC DOT [state.nc.us] For an additional annual fee of $30.00, most plates issued by the Division may be personalized. The plate may bear up to 8 spaces made up of letters, numbers and/or special characters.
INBOXSTR works here. Don't know if those rules are nationalized or state by state though.

Re:hmm (2, Interesting)

MoonBuggy (611105) | more than 10 years ago | (#8712905)

The publicity could work, but to be honest the first thing I thought was 'They got a million from sending email? I can send email!'

I've got just about enough morality not to go into spamming, but it sure it'd be an easy and very lucrative job for a geek that knows what they're doing. I wish I was more unscrupulous.

Number 2 (3, Funny)

bbrazil (729534) | more than 10 years ago | (#8712906)

you're telling me the spammer made $1mm+

Not exaclty great growth potential...

Re:hmm (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8712964)

"you're telling me the spammer made $1mm+ and all AOL got was a $47k Porsche?"

No. That's why the article refers to the Porsche as part of the settlement. That implies that AOL received more than just the Porsche from the spammer.

Re:hmm (2, Interesting)

meringuoid (568297) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713010)

Also, I tend to doubt that most spammers make as much as they claim. It would be interesting to compare and contrast
the amount of money spammers claim to earn in interviews, when saying something along the lines of 'antis are just jealous'
with
the amount of money spammers claim to earn in their filings with the IRS

It could be very informative.

Re:hmm (2, Interesting)

Zocalo (252965) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713148)

It'd probably be even more "interesting" for the IRS since the truth is probably somewhere in between given the legal line some spammers walk. Several (but not all) of the interviews and exposes with spammers known to ROKSO have shown that while some do indeed have affluent lifestyles others do not. It shouldn't be too difficult to cross check a metric like what car a spammer drives and their IRS filings against what other drivers of that model car file with the IRS and flag any anomalies. Unless that kind of data is seperated by bureacracratic red-tape for privacy reasons of course.

Re:hmm (4, Insightful)

EricWright (16803) | more than 10 years ago | (#8712968)

As you quoted... "AOL won the car... as PART of a court settlement..." That phrasing makes me believe that this is not "all AOL got"! If they also obtained cash, a) do you think they're going to tell you how much, and b) do you think there would be a public raffle of money? They're just trying to liquidate the spammer's former assets. The cash is already liquid.

Re:hmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8713181)

For those who can't bother even reading the first line of the article:

"AOL won the car - a $47,000 Boxster S - as part of a court settlement"

Alistair Cook Dead At 95 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8712870)

I just heard the sad news on NPR, Alistair Cook is dead at 95. Even if you never heard his Letters From America on the BBC maybe you saw him introduce master peice theatre. Truly a English Icon.

Re:Alistair Cook Dead At 95 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8712957)

AC - Anonymous Coweard ... or ... Alistair Cook?

Coincidence? I think not.

What about the registration plate (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8712879)

Do you have to keep SPMNG CNT, or are you allowed to change it?

Funny, but it makes an interesting point (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8712883)

This spammer can afford a Porsche (and probably its replacement). How many OSS people can say the same? This is an interesting commentary on the economic value of the two groups to society.

Re:Funny, but it makes an interesting point (4, Insightful)

Elgon (234306) | more than 10 years ago | (#8712915)

The Labour Theory of Value has been shown to be largely a pile of crap: Something is worth what people will pay, not what is _should_ be worth according to subjective beliefs.

I do agree though that this leads to some wierd (and undeserved) results.

Elgon

Re:Funny, but it makes an interesting point (3, Interesting)

prat393 (757559) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713085)

I believe the whole point of the labour theory of value was to say that commodities aren't being exchanged at their true values (and screw all those horribly confusing use value/value distinctions), not that that makes the theory any easier to accept, since it's obvious that something of high utility that takes someone 1sec. to make is worth more than something completely useless that took years to finish. Marx is definitely very weird.

Re:Funny, but it makes an interesting point (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8713300)

Also part of it is that labor creates all value.

In other words:

You can have a pile of cash and fancy machines but if you don't have any labor (i.e. workers) then it's all worthless. This goes for stacks of gold, iron ore, coal, whatever...

It's not just that the labor put into it is what makes it valueable, it's also that without labor no value will be created.

Re:Funny, but it makes an interesting point (4, Insightful)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 10 years ago | (#8712974)

low morals and scruples has ALWAYS been more profitable than doing the right and good thing.

low life scum always have more stuff. Look at the ex -executive branch of Enron, the CEO of SCO, Hitler, Stalin, Amelia Marcos, the list goes on.

Why do you think the Mafia are in business? because Crime is profitable... so the more scummy you are the more money you get.

until there is backlash.

Re:Funny, but it makes an interesting point (5, Funny)

fredrikj (629833) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713056)

the ex -executive branch of Enron, the CEO of SCO, Hitler, Stalin, Amelia Marcos, the list goes on

Hitler really doesn't deserve being listed next to McBride. Don't be such a troll.

Re:Funny, but it makes an interesting point (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8713212)

You joke but Hitler wasn't really doing it for the money. He believed in the insanity that he preached.

Re:Funny, but it makes an interesting point (3, Funny)

jadenyk (764614) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713035)

I wonder if the spammer is entered into the contest to win it back???

Re:Funny, but it makes an interesting point (1)

JaredOfEuropa (526365) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713159)

This is an interesting commentary on the economic value of the two groups to society.
Society, and people or entities in it, do not reward a value voluntarily. If you give your software away for free, virtually no-one will volunteer to pay you $10 for it, even if they would have paid it if you had asked.

Re:Funny, but it makes an interesting point (1)

Orgazmus (761208) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713162)

Well, since spammers cause damage for more than the money they earn, I for one think the OSS people would win pretty easy.

Re:Funny, but it makes an interesting point (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8713231)

How does a greedy bastard have ecomonic value to society? As far as I can see, he has ecomonic value mainly to himself.

You missed the point (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8713260)

The point isn't that the spammer had a Porsche (note that nowhere does it say the spammer purchased the Porsche using the proceeds from spamming) but rather the spammer's business doesn't produce enough income to allow him not to have his property seized.

Spamming doesn't pay. At least not for the spammers themselves. That's why they file for bankruptcy a few weeks after testifying to Congress about the vast riches they make spamming.

Re:You missed the point (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8713303)

I wouldn't put much stock in AOL's assertion the spammer made $1 million from spamming either. Sounds like wishful thinking. They're probably parroting what the spammer was claiming, which should be taken with a grain of salt.

Why? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8712884)

Why are there no comments yet? Everyone's gone for the Porsche already?

Hey that was mine! (4, Interesting)

Yo Grark (465041) | more than 10 years ago | (#8712887)

It says so right here:

Want to own seized property at half the cost? Want to buy a house for a fraction of the mortgage?

http://www.hillnews.com/news/043003/ss_auctions. as px

Bah. Hey AOL, you REALLY want to help rid the world of spammers? ANSWER OUR EMAILS OF ABUSE.

Yo Grark

Better News: (5, Funny)

hplasm (576983) | more than 10 years ago | (#8712888)

Spammer's Balls Up For Grabs

I can see it already in my inbox... (5, Funny)

mrselfdestrukt (149193) | more than 10 years ago | (#8712891)

Order v14gra now and get chance to win a p0r5che b0xt3r from A07.

Can't just join? (3, Funny)

p_millipede (714918) | more than 10 years ago | (#8712895)

The Porsche sweepstake lasts until 8 April, and will be open only to those who were AOL members when it was first announced.
Damn, so I can't just join now, win a car, and then terminate the account?

Re:Can't just join? (3, Informative)

sapbasisnerd (729448) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713143)

Uhm, is this legal? Since a purchase is required for entry, this ceases to be a promotional contest and becomes gambling, does AOL have a casino licence?

Re:Can't just join? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8713258)

There is no purchase required. That is the point. You already had to be a member to be eligible. If they used it as a way to get people to sign up then you would be right.

There is no law that says a organization can't hold sweepstakes for its own members.

Re:Can't just join? (2, Funny)

Orgazmus (761208) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713169)

Terminate your account?
What world are you from?

Allow me to be the first to say ..... (4, Funny)

Alranor (472986) | more than 10 years ago | (#8712897)

<Nelson>
Ha. Ha.
</Nelson>

Screw the Car... (4, Funny)

Spencerian (465343) | more than 10 years ago | (#8712898)

...I want that spammer's ball sac for a potpourri-filled an air freshener.

Yeah, pal, I got your "male enhancement" right HERE...

Funny... (5, Funny)

hookedup (630460) | more than 10 years ago | (#8712899)


Seems this spammer bought one of the most expensive penis enhancement products you can get..

Smash it up (4, Interesting)

EasyTarget (43516) | more than 10 years ago | (#8712911)

Come'on AOL, give those members who this guy spammed a chance to have at the car with a hammer! Better still offer them a chance to buy the oppertunity to urinate on the upholstery, proceeds to CAUCE! All sorts of fun activities spring to mind. You can the webcast it so the spammer can watch ;-)

Sweepstaking it is sooo tame.

Re:Smash it up (1)

Patrik_AKA_RedX (624423) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713287)

You can the webcast it so the spammer can watch ;-)
Better yet: let the spammer look from inside the car. Who wouldn't want to see the face of the spammer when he sees his ex-car being reduced to a pile of metal.

Perhaps we'll let him out before crushing the car into a cube. Perhaps not...

Porsche? (3, Funny)

CleverNickedName (644160) | more than 10 years ago | (#8712921)

Clearly he was responsible for those "Increase the site of your penis" mails.

Wait... (5, Insightful)

ForestGrump (644805) | more than 10 years ago | (#8712922)

Aol goes after other spammers, but doesn't AOL spam its own customers?

I remember using AOL in years past and they would throw crap at you telling you to BUY THIS and THIS every time you logged into an AOL account.

-Grump

Re:Wait... (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8712958)

you can turn AOL's ads off via Keyword: Marketing Preferences

Re:Wait... (1)

Rocketboy (32971) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713027)

Not only can you turn the adds off, it actually works. I'd turned it off so long ago I forgot all about it. Haven't seen an add from AOL in ages.

Re:Wait... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8713030)

Only one "d" in "ads", please.

if you want to be ANAL, then (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8713249)

at least be correct: the comma goes inside the "quotes," please.

Re:if you want to be ANAL, then (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8713290)

Sentences start with capital letters, please.

AOL wants to have the exclusive right to spam (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8713068)

...that's the whole point of it!

Re:Wait... (3, Informative)

EvilAlien (133134) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713161)

Wildly tossing out over-broad labels of "spam" does not help the cause, and hinders it. Are you sure you didn't sign something? Are you sure that these clumsy marketing efforts weren't part of the previously established prior business relationship between you and your ISP?

There is a hell of a difference between what you are describing and real spam. Real spam in involves privacy violations, harvesting of addresses, messages sent to randomly generated lists, etc.

Check out The Definition of Spam [spamhaus.org] (according to Spamhaus) and What is spam? [abuse.net] (according to spam.abuse.net). The term was originally coined to describe the crap spewed onto USENET. It most certainly was not intended to describe marketing spewed by your ISP, television, newspaper, or the ad boxes on /.

It should be disclosed to the public... (4, Insightful)

adzoox (615327) | more than 10 years ago | (#8712928)

I think these high living SPAM execs salaries should be as well known as say Apple Computer's compensation for Steve Jobs. You can almost gaurantee that these people don't report their full income on taxes or "do creative accounting" like - every penis enlargement pill that DOESN'T sell from an email solicitation - is actually a loss - justifying it by saying the record industry says that every download = a lost sale.

I would like to see the people that waste our time get what's due to them - spending every hour of my wasted time in court and in jail!

Re:It should be disclosed to the public... (1)

phunhippy (86447) | more than 10 years ago | (#8712967)

Hot Dang!! every spam that doesn't sell is a lost sale? Damn!! I need to start spamming!! I really will PAY NO TAXES

WOOHOOOO!!!!!

where do i sign up?

aol hates spam?! (5, Insightful)

hugzz (712021) | more than 10 years ago | (#8712934)

when can i take the CEO of AOL's car for all those damn CDs they send me?

Re:aol hates spam?! (2, Insightful)

MMaestro (585010) | more than 10 years ago | (#8712950)

when can i take the CEO of AOL's car for all those damn CDs they send me?

When AOL doesn't have to pay millions of dollars in manufacturing, packaging, and postage most of which never pays off.

Nice car, but... (2, Funny)

Paddyish (612430) | more than 10 years ago | (#8712940)

I only want it if the spammer's gonads are hanging from the mirror like a pair of fuzzy dice.

Re:Nice car, but... (1)

AndroidCat (229562) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713156)

If the spammer was Rodona Garst [freewebsites.com] or Laura Betterly [cnn.com] , I foresee a problem. Besides, even when possible, they'd have to be Hell's own air fresheners.

Promo for this competition... (5, Funny)

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So next week (5, Funny)

redcaboodle (622288) | more than 10 years ago | (#8712946)

the RIAA auctions P2P users iPods?

I want... (2, Funny)

Bilange (237074) | more than 10 years ago | (#8712959)

Spammer's e-mail adress. >:)

That's weird (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8712961)

1. Sell your customer address list to spammers
2. Sue the spammers
3. ???
4. Profit!

in the words of Cartman... (1, Funny)

bsDaemon (87307) | more than 10 years ago | (#8712963)

...sweeeeeeeeet....

where is the money coming from (1)

dhuv (241988) | more than 10 years ago | (#8712971)

I just want to know, who are these idiots that pay them to send out spam for them.

How about a sweepstakes for his head? (-1, Flamebait)

Illserve (56215) | more than 10 years ago | (#8712985)

There's got to be some country on earth in which AOL could set up a shell account to pull this off.

Why the Porsche? (5, Insightful)

peterdaly (123554) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713004)

My initial thought was since when can a private company seize private property? It seems they got it as part of a deal with the government...but that being said, why a $40k Porsche? It's said this guy made over $1M.

Mr Boe said the Porsche was seized mainly for its symbolic value, as the obvious fruit of an illegal trade.

Makes sense, and it's a great idea. Getting hundreds of thousands of dollars does not make an attention getting headline, and not have made slashdot. Taking his Porsche, now that's a headline grabber.

AOL is known for being marketing savy, and that's what this is about.

-Pete

Re:Why the Porsche? (5, Informative)

sjlutz (540312) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713088)

IANAL, but my roommate is. The Porsche was probably part of the liquidation of assets. If they guy didn't have enough hard cash to pay the settlement/award to AOL, AOL can then start liquidating his assets to get all the money they were awarded. I don't know who gets to choice which particular assets get "disposed" of, but I guess AOL worked with the government to just keep the Porsche as a Porsche and not convert it into cash. The spammer probably made out on the deal also, as I believe the cost of turning assets back to cash would have been charged to the spammer. So instead of converted the $40K Porcshe into $30K cash or whatever someone would have bought it for minus the cost of selling it, the spammer probably got the full 'value' out of it.

Re:Why the Porsche? (1)

Zocalo (252965) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713294)

Just because he allegedly made over $1M doesn't mean it's all available to AOL, how much was frittered away on entertainment for example? Also doesn't seizure of property to cover debt, including damages awarded by a court, require that non-essential assets are seized first. You can't just jump straight in and seize the debtor's home if they have a Porsche, even if that does cover the value of the debt exactly.

I think it far more likely that the spammer was told to pay AOL so much in damages and, when his liquid cash assets wouldn't cover it, dumped big ticket items like the Porsche first to make up the shortfall. Of course, if AOL were given a pick list of items to seize with approximate values, I'd certainly be ticking all the status symbols first. Hell, I'd settle for the Porsche and a court order stipulating he only drive a Yugo in future... ;)

wrong message (5, Insightful)

Cardinal Biggles (6685) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713012)

So what AOL is telling people is... Spammers have Porsches! Spamming => money!

My next question as a newbie would be: so how do I become a spammer? Where do I apply & when can I start?

Re:wrong message (3, Funny)

Spacejock (727523) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713045)

1. Find lots and lots of email addresses 2. Learn to spell common words really, really badly 3. ??? 4. Cl~!ck this l!nk and Pr0fit!!!

Re:wrong message (1)

That's Unpossible! (722232) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713325)

So what AOL is telling people is... Spammers have Porsches! Spamming => money!

My next question as a newbie would be: so how do I become a spammer? Where do I apply & when can I start?


Are these the same people that think, "Hmmm, that bank robber just got busted, and HE had a million dollars! So how do I become a bank robber?"

Clearly both these people did something wrong, made money, and then got caught. I don't see this as a positive story for spammers.

Does it come with a years supply of Viagra? (2, Funny)

MrIrwin (761231) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713032)

Or has it been re-morgated several times at an interesting rate?

BTW, rumor has it that the GPS system auto-navigates to hot young sticky.......

I wouldn't want that porsche. (3, Funny)

ajutla (720182) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713037)

Not in a million years. It'd give me bad karma. Think of it, it used to belong to a spammer? It'd be like, every day when I'd get into that car I'd feel the aura of that spammer's presence in there. As I'd be trying to drive I'd be interrupted by random flashes in my mind, flashes of male enhancement, low mortgages, and free pornography. It'd be a nightmare. The car would haunt me for as long as I drove it. I'd be terrified to drive it but would have to. Friends would say, "hey, nice porsche." I, however, would think, "gods, you have NO idea what it's like...it's not easy having a porsche...that was once owned by a spammer."

Re:I wouldn't want that porsche. (1)

Orgazmus (761208) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713256)

Nah, its all about pride.
You drive a porshe that was TAKEN from a spammer.
You would drive around in a symbol of the spammers losses ;)

Porsche (4, Funny)

black mariah (654971) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713046)

This car comes complete with...
  • Plenty of insurance
  • An elnarged... uh... 'exhaust'
  • A Nigerian bank account
  • A screensaver
  • A trunk full of Viagra
  • A low mortgage rate

Girls love guys with big (0, Troll)

kernelblaha (756819) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713071)

cars. 'Cos everyone knows that the size of the car is directly propotional to the size of the mailbox.

i'd rather buy... (2, Funny)

hot_Karls_bad_cavern (759797) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713073)

...his testicles, for keeping.

Spammers (3, Funny)

panxerox (575545) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713080)

As anyone can now be listed as a spammer by some aol customer clicking the wrong radio button, when will we see my 1977 Toyota up for auction.

Symbolic Value (4, Interesting)

steveoc (2661) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713087)

Quoting from the BBC article - "AOL says the Porsche has "symbolic value""

No shit !

ALL Porsches have symbolic value - that goes deeper than the badge.

If you ever get the chance to own a Porsche, especially an older model, then do spend some time digging around under the surface and get your hands dirty. Every single component of the car has a wonderful consistent feel to the design of it. You can see that a strong single mind stamped its presence on each design decision, right down to the choice of nuts and bolts.

Every peice of a Porsche is brutally simple, with no concessions made for fashion or cost. Its just like a really good peice of software.

Problem is, the Boxster is a damn fine car, but is perhaps the first real Porsche to have made concessions towards fashion and cost. (The VW 924 does not count, since it was a never meant to be a Porsche).

If you win the Porsche sweepstakes, then have a bit of fun in the Boxster, but then sell it, and use the money to get 1973 Carrera 2.4, or build up an insane 2.7ltr 911 RS replica. Then again, its your car, your dream, dont let me force my dream down your throat.

Having said that - whoever wins the Porsche sweepstakes needs to remember 1 very important thing - it is pronounced 'Porrr-Sch-A' not 'Porsh'. Calling a Porsche a 'Porsh' is like calling Bill Gates the 'inventor of the internet.'

Re:Symbolic Value (1)

Samael_666 (669404) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713298)

I totally agree with the statement above. The Carrera is the one and only real Porsche.
The Boxster is a much cheaper model, like some sort of a "poor man's Porsche"
And don't get me started on the Cayenne ! Ugh!

Re:Symbolic Value (1, Informative)

ljavelin (41345) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713326)

I own a Boxster, not an "S".

It's a great car... excellent handling, great looks, and very reliable. Plus, it makes a great daily driver even in the crappy weather. I don't recommend you take a '73 Carrera out on salted, wintery roads.

You're right, the Boxster is a concession. Happily, it was something that I could afford. My non-S Boxster was bought new for about $45,000. For a Porsche, that's cheap.

Don't get me wrong - I'd love a '73 Carrera too. Just not as my daily driver. And since I have a boxster, it'd be hard to justify the Carrera.

OK, I have to go to work now! Yay! Too bad 34F is too cold to put the top down... hopefully this weekend.

The spammer's name won't be confidential... (4, Insightful)

dcavanaugh (248349) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713096)

If the winner chooses to disclose the VIN number. Armed with that, I'm sure some "researchers" can get the ownership history.

what they don't tell you (2, Funny)

Karem Lore (649920) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713105)

is that it comes with financing that still needs to be payed...In fact, the trunk contains a briefcase that contains a list of AOL email addresses to help with the financing of the car...

unidentified spammer gonna be identified (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8713108)

Is this legal? If the spammer was unnamed as part of the deal, then the car's serial number will be a dead giveaway to the spammer's identity.

All we need now is the Spammer's address... (3, Interesting)

Maestro4k (707634) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713123)

Just imagine the fun of driving by his (assuming it's a he) house in his former Porsche blowing the horn and flagging him a bird -- every morning. Why hell, he's a spammer, make that around 3am every morning, and drop off a printout of your daily spam on his doorstep for good measure. :)

Yes I know it'd probably be at least partially illegal, but it'd be great fun to watch his pop a vein. :)

Guess! (1)

Rui del-Negro (531098) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713147)

AOL is putting up a Porsche it seized from a spammer last year in a sweepstakes.

And of course, they're telling everyone about it by sending out mass e-mails.

RMN
~~~

Shouldn't that be... (1)

ArsenneLupin (766289) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713149)

What next -- 'Spammer's House' in another sweepstakes?

Shouldn't that be Spammer's trailer instead ?

Reality TV-Be A Spammer (0)

f0rt0r (636600) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713165)

6 Average Joe's will be chosen to compete in a "who's the best spammer" competition. Contestants will be judged on who successfully harvests the most email addreseses ( be creative ! ), sends the most spam emails out( think open relays! ), and how many Lusers actually click on the links in the email( think 'click here to enlarge your (breasts|penis)!' ). Contestants can vote each other off the show for trying to use opt-in mailing lists or for following truth-in-advertising guidelines.

Sign up at icanspam@beaspammer.tv to be a contestant!

Meh (2, Insightful)

Greyfox (87712) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713209)

The car is nice and all but what I'd really like is a spammer's organs. Mine work fine but you can never have too many organs. So AOL, next time you go after a spammer, go for the organs.

Screw the Porsche... (1)

borius (711380) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713257)

...and give me some free Viagra!

Never get rid of the smell (1)

jridley (9305) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713262)

This will be like the stinky car episode of Mythbusters; you'll never be able to quite get the smell out of this car.

Couldn't afford a 911 ? (1)

iamthemoog (410374) | more than 10 years ago | (#8713283)

[flamebait] So - a hairdresser and a spammer...? Who'd have thought it... [/flamebait]

Anyone see the irony in this? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8713289)

AOL became the king of ISP's (well for a little while anyhow), by being the biggest junk-mailer, sending out millions of their AOL CDs to everyone they could get an address for. Now they are seizing the property of junk emailers. Lol.

Well, I guess they would argue the difference is, AOL paid the post office for the mailings, whereas spammers 'defrauded' AOL of it's bandwidth. Whatever.

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