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Homemade Subliminal CDs

michael posted more than 10 years ago | from the real-submissions-unedited dept.

Music 305

An anonymous reader writes "Hello Slashdotters, I am totally stumped on how to do this. I would like to create custom subliminal CDs for my own use. I don't trust the CDs for sale in the stores, after all, who regulates that industry and ensures there actually is a message on them, and if so, what is the message? I would like to create positive motivational CDs, or even recite text from study guides/trivia, you name it, and lay it underneath tracks from a custom CD of my favorite bands. What is the best software to use to create such a beast on Windows, Mac, and Linux systems? And conversely, has anyone used any of the music software on these platforms to actually analyze the contents of commercial subliminal CDs? Any advice would be of use...thanks!"

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Subliminal Messaging (5, Interesting)

dolo666 (195584) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736640)

Apparently, subliminal messages have little effect [snopes.com] . Maybe you're just looking for the placebo [wikipedia.org] effect, in which case it likely doesn't matter *how* you record your subliminal tape, just as long as *you* beleive!

Re:Subliminal Messaging (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8736685)

Check it out, Michigan-LUG dumpster diving paid off!

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a | ^
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x
a IMPORTANT NOTE:
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Re:Subliminal Messaging (1, Redundant)

Liselle (684663) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736730)

But that sort of subliminal advertising is flashing an ad on-screen for a fraction of a second. This would be underlaying one track beneath another. I don't know how effective it is, but it's not a snapshot like the movie "urban legend", it's immersive. Can't actors memorize lines by recording them, and then playing back while they sleep?

Re:Subliminal Messaging (5, Funny)

Dun Malg (230075) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736757)

Here's [rapidnet.com] something explaining that the notion of subliminal anything is hogwash. April 1st or not, slashdot should remain a place of learning...

OK, I couldn't say that without laughing either

Re:Subliminal Messaging (2, Interesting)

jnapalm (749376) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736762)

if the author is paranoid of RIAA subliminal advertising, what makes you think he's going to believe something available on the internet? Just because it's posted on the web, doesn't mean it's true.

Re:Subliminal Messaging (1)

godzillion (693800) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736782)

You are probably better off ditching the subliminal aspect. If you are interested in memorizing info, record yourself speaking what you want to remember, and listen to it at normal volume (perhaps while focusing on some other task, or at faster-than-normal speed). If you are interested in behavioral change, why not try self-hypnosis?

Re:Subliminal Messaging (5, Funny)

sketerpot (454020) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736795)

Don't tell him that! You may ruin the placebo effect!

Re:Subliminal Messaging (1)

technomancerX (86975) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736895)

Interesting. Does anybody have links/citations for any of the "numerous studies" by psychologists done on the topic? The link provided in the parent has no citations to anything aside from one repetition of the Ft. Lee experiment (and that's more an anecdote than a citation to a reputable source).

I should also note that I have no opinion on the topic one way or the other, I'd just be interested in reading the studies.

Re:Subliminal Messaging (5, Interesting)

wass (72082) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736903)

I actually did a research project back in high school (1992) where I made up a bunch of fake vocabulary words and flashed them on the computer screen for varying durations. While at the longest durations the flashing was somewhat noticeable, it was still too quick to read the words.

I told the students they were being tested on the ability of typing in words to help them remember their meanings. Meanwhile other words and definitions were being flashed on the screen. At the end of the session (10-15 mins i think) they were given a test with both sets of words, and only the subliminal words were counted.

I tested 3 varying durations of the messages, and one of the durations actually had noticeable score above the statistical average for guessing. I was getting psyched. Then I realized I needed a control group too, where I didn't flash anything on the screen. It turned out the control group got nearly the same score as that one above-average group.

I did statistical ANOVA analysis, and basically there was no significant correlation between the group scores and the flashing duration.

It was still a fun project to do. And I got to present the project at the Monmouth Junior Science Symposium [monmouth.edu] too, which ironically happens to be running today and tomorrow.

I know it's April 1 but... (5, Funny)

grub (11606) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736645)


I don't trust the CDs for sale in the stores, after all, who regulates that industry and ensures there actually is a message on them, and if so, what is the message

April 1, 2004: Aluminium foil sells record amounts worldwide. History will refer to it as "The Slashdot-Bauxite Phenomena" which seems to predominately strike teen->30ish single male geeks.

beware... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8736734)

Most aluminium foil in stores is actually tin...

Re:I know it's April 1 but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8736737)

It must be tin! Aluminum is powerless!

Probably First Post! (-1, Offtopic)

kmweber (196563) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736646)

Yee-haw! I probably got it and you probably didn't!

Re:Probably First Post! (1)

ilikejam (762039) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736675)

Nope.

Please (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8736649)

A haiku for bad April 1st submissions:

april's cruel humor
a wasted effort, and us
shouting, YOU FAIL IT!

Submliminal advertising is hokum (1, Informative)

WayneConrad (312222) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736650)

I don't trust the CDs for sale in the stores, after all, who regulates that industry and ensures there actually is a message on them, and if so, what is the message?

You have nothing to worry about, because subliminal advertising is not effective. [snopes.com]

Re:Submliminal advertising is hokum (1)

pinkboi (533214) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736710)

Someone already said that, and the linked to article is about subliminal advertising, not those tapes you listen to in your sleep. Mayhaps they should do a study on that, too?

Re:Submliminal advertising is hokum (1)

Tassach (137772) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736796)

Subliminal anything is ineffective. Advertising, learning, whatever.

Subliminal == bullshit in any context.

Re:Submliminal advertising is hokum (5, Interesting)

caluml (551744) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736885)

Subliminal == bullshit in any context.

Anyone in the UK see the program where someone (Derren Brown?) asked a load of advertising people to design a logo and a catchphrase? They made pretty much the exact one that he had put in an envelope before they started. And how? He got the taxi that they came to the office in to drive a certain route, and he planted certain things, logos, words, and images along the way. It all goes in. Everything that you experience is in your subconscious somewhere - that's why you can get it back out under hypnosis. Anyway, back to my circular-breathing Zen chanting back-slapping.

Re:Submliminal advertising is hokum (1)

gerddie (173963) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736900)

You sound very sure about that. I would guess that having some conversation in a foreign language run in the background would help to pick up patterns and melody of that language and hence it would help to learn the language. Then again, since you can hear the conversation (although you are not actively listen) it might be, that this is no longer called subliminal.

Re:Submliminal advertising is hokum (1)

WayneConrad (312222) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736872)

Someone already said that

Their article hadn't shown up yet when I posted. I thought I had FP for sure. Oh well. Sometimes you're the fly, sometimes you're the windshield. Go ahead and mark me redundant.

Dumpster Diving Pays Off! (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8736651)

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a aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
a TOP SECRET : (GROUP SLSH-1)
a EYES ONLY : (HARD COPY ONLY)
a NEED TO KNOW : (DIRECT DEV)
a
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a
a START
a V
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a |Has the feature been implemented before>-o-+ I thought back on the other
a | on Kuro5hin or another weblog site? |yes| night and the bitchslapping
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a .,. no .,. V thread. I thought of some of
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x +oooooooooooooo|ooooooooooooooo+ | editors had unjustly
a .,. no .,. .. | overturned..."
x V |
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a | Have hundreds of users suggested +>-yes-| / \
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a V | |
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a |Will the feature make Slashdot|--yes-\|Can jamie or krow| |
o | even more like a game? | /| hack it for me? | |
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x | | |_______
a no yes |
o V xiiixx---V--xuixiuuiuxxuxo |
a +oxaoaxuaoaxuxxauxxxauxixxiaxxaxox+ / THIS FEATURE IS PERFECT \ |
x |Can CmdrTaco use his limited Perl|-yes\/ FOR SLASHDOT. IM SO GLAD \ |
a | knowledge to kludge it in? | /\ I THOUGHT OF IT!!! TIME / |
o +xuuuxxxusxuxuxuxxisuuxusxuxxsuxxx+ \xu..FOR SAILOR MOON!...ixx/ |
a | ^
o no->-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxo->-xxxxx+ |
x
a IMPORTANT NOTE:
x NEVER DISTURB A MAN WHO'S INVENTING SOMETHING YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND

Re:Dumpster Diving Pays Off! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8736905)

Well, cool then. [easyspace.com]

DUPE (1, Funny)

mattyohe (517995) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736661)

Re:DUPE (1)

PrvtBurrito (557287) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736754)

Man I am embarrassed to admit, but it made me laugh... -Sean

Re:DUPE (-1, Flamebait)

mattyohe (517995) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736855)

Jesus H... You moderators are total douchebags.

Suggestion (-1, Offtopic)

Graemee (524726) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736665)

Graeme is your master..
All hail Graeme

Re:Suggestion (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8736723)

You forgot the non-subliminal part of this message.

More apr 1 jokes? (2, Funny)

SpudGunMan (456448) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736669)

Next Head Line - I would like to package my own Breakfast cerial. I am worried that the US Goverment is trying to draft me to war with my sugar smacks!

Are you too? (5, Funny)

Doesn't_Comment_Code (692510) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736682)


I would like to create custom subliminal CDs for my own use.

Anybody else creeped out?

Re:Are you too? (2, Funny)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736848)

Yes, those RIAA employees are creepy!

I wonder if this one is really going to use them for personal reasons though... Sounds to me like it's just the next logical step in their War against Piracy.

Use Garage Band (1)

goombah99 (560566) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736871)

Here's how I creeped myself out: I was using garage band to record my own voice. I laid down an MP3 music track then just added my own voice by talking to my iMac. added a choral effect and turne the volume down on my own voice. Eerie. like I was talking to my self but could not quite hear myself. For added effect try the flanger. Its like you are talking from the grave.

Re:Use Garage Band (1)

goombah99 (560566) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736899)

Oh one other thing I forgot to mention. The imacs have a microphone in the LCD display. Because its located so far from the computer case and its directional it does not pick up any fan or disk drive noises. Its a sweet bit of engineering. I was not exepecting it to be so good. It was actually better than the (low cost) hand held microphone I tried.

Subliminal messages? (5, Informative)

lavalyn (649886) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736683)

... You will get naked and horny ... ... You want sex now ... ... vi is superior to emacs ...

Okay, seriously. You want Audacity. It's multi-track sound-editing software, so you can prepare your subliminal messages and just add them into another waveform. Then you save the results.

Re:Subliminal messages? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8736817)

I've done this with Audacity. Its quite simple. I read a textbook out loud, recorded it, then combined the track with instrumental music that I listen to while at work. Audacity allowed me to merge the two with the text volume quite low and the music higher. The only issue was that I could hear the text during pauses in the music. Anyhow, I got an B in the class, so I have no idea if this helped or not. I haven't tried it again.

Re:Subliminal messages? (1)

mobiGeek (201274) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736829)

Okay, seriously.
...no seriously...it's April Fools. Nothing to read here today folks, get back to other ways to avoid increasing productivity :-)

I gotta hand it to them, this year is moderately better than last year [slashdot.org] ...

... so far ...

Re:Subliminal messages? (1)

pegr (46683) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736864)

Okay, seriously. You want Audacity. It's multi-track sound-editing software, so you can prepare your subliminal messages and just add them into another waveform. Then you save the results.

Even easier:
dd if=/dev/random of=/home/pegr/mycd.iso bs=512 count=50000000

Then burn with cdrecord. For different mixes, just run it again! ;)

Re:Subliminal messages? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8736890)

OMG! It worked! I want sex now!

Enough with the April 1st jokes (2, Insightful)

Viol8 (599362) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736687)

So far none of them have been remotely amusing and neither is this one. Surely someone can come up with something better than this, you have a
whole year to prepare after all!

Re:Enough with the April 1st jokes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8736738)

None of you knuckleheads griping about this get it do you?

It's not about the fucking story, the fun is listening to you guys get all bent out of shape.

Sheesh.

Lighten up. No one's forcing you to post here. In fact, if you don't like it, go the fuck away for the day.

Re:Enough with the April 1st jokes (-1, Offtopic)

garcia (6573) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736768)

then stay the fuck away for today. I tried this complaining thing last year and all it landed me was negative karma.

Perhaps you can just troll like everyone else. For one day a year the trolls get the +'s

Re:Enough with the April 1st jokes (1)

ArsonSmith (13997) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736826)

I'm just waiting for the "SCO provides proff that 88% of Linux source code stolen directly from Original UNIX. SCO also provides complete contract signed by every exec from Novell saying they have 100% code owner ship and Novell has squat" story.

Re:Enough with the April 1st jokes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8736856)

I think youre falling into the "when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail" trap. It may have been meant to just be amusing, not "fool" people. Maybe the editors just wanted to see a debate spring up about subliminal messaging? Lighten up, and don't just presume that everything is meant to fool you.

Just spped it up (5, Interesting)

MajorDick (735308) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736691)

Tests have shown subliminal messages in audio are for the most part useless, HOWEVER if you increase the speed you retention goes up significantly. Years ago there was a tape recorder (does anyone remeber who sold these they sold the Bone Phone also, Demco or something like that) My dad gfot one and swore like hell it worked, several studies I have read since seem to confirm this.

Re:Just spped it up (1)

droid_rage (535157) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736861)

That's what I do. I use goldwave [goldwave.com] (windows cheapware) to compress the audio to whatever works best for me, usually 600 wpm or so. I think the reason it works so well is that I go into an active listening state, instead of letting my mind wander.

BS (5, Funny)

FortKnox (169099) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736692)

You don't want to make subliminal positive motivation CDs... you want to make subliminal CDs convincing hot chicks to sleep with you!

Umm... hey hottie... nice iPod... here, listen to THIS mp3 I have...

Re:BS (4, Funny)

(trb001) (224998) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736742)

Saved by the Bell [movieprop.com] showed us this is a bad idea...inevitably, the tape/CD will end up in the hands of some large guy who then wants to do things to you in uncomfortable places.

--trb

Re:BS (4, Funny)

GreyyGuy (91753) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736775)

What, like the back of a Volkswagen?

Re:BS (0, Redundant)

mike_mgo (589966) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736784)

like the back of a volkswagen?

Re:BS (0, Redundant)

ArsonSmith (13997) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736863)

What? Like in the back of a Volkswagon?

Re:BS (0, Redundant)

prescot6 (731593) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736777)

Are they not one and the same?

Re:BS (1)

DrunkBastard (652218) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736800)

and the problem with this is?

Re:BS (2, Funny)

aaribaud (585182) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736821)

you want to make subliminal CDs convincing hot chicks to sleep with you!
to sleep ?

Not MP3 (2, Informative)

tepples (727027) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736874)

make subliminal CDs convincing hot chicks to sleep with you! "Umm... hey hottie... nice iPod... here, listen to THIS mp3"

One problem: it may work only with FLAC or some other lossless format. The psychoacoustic masking models in MP3 and AAC encoders are tuned for passing normally audible signals, not for passing "subliminal" signals.

custom subliminal CDs (5, Funny)

BigFlirt (632867) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736693)

I think the best (send me money) way to make some custom (send me money) subliminal CDs would be to (send me money) go to your local record shop and (send me money) ask around for help. I know that I've bought some CDs (with your money) that really motivated me to learn (how to send subliminal messages) material for school and I got those by (send me money) just asking around

Re:custom subliminal CDs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8736859)

After reading your post, I think you really deserve some money for your hard work. Where can I send (nasty pictures of myself) it to?

Aren't subliminal messages bad for your health? (1)

Diaspar (319457) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736694)

I've read somewhere that there was a test when subliminal messages were put in every 25th frame in some movie saying "buy coka-cola" or something of that sort. supposedly after the movie people rushed to buy coke, but later on majority reported severe headaches and mental problems.

Since this area is not really explored as much, i think there is a good potential for harm.

Dear God (2, Insightful)

Burgundy Advocate (313960) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736699)

Fuck. Fuck fuck fuck. April 1st again. I'm going to go and cower under the covers until tomorrow...

subliminal messaging doesnt work... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8736702)

The reason that people think that it 'helps' is that you work so hard at concentrating on getting the information to be subliminal and 'not think about it' that you memorise it.

My stop smoking tape doesn't work (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8736704)

Turns out a mistake in shipping sent me a 'compulsively refresh Slashdot' tape instead. My Slashdot refreshing knows no satiety.

Why would you do this? It doesn't work (1, Redundant)

FurryFeet (562847) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736705)

Yo do know, of course, that subliminal advertising doesn't work [snopes.com] . What makes you think subliminal CDs will?
Really, if you want to learn something, read. If you want to change a habit, grow a character. Remember, TANSTAAFL.

*NOTICE* It has gone too far (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8736860)

TANSTAAFL?

IANAL, IAAMS, IANAFAC, ...

--
damn lameness filters.
This is just a bunch of garbage to try and get around the lameness filters. Do not bother to read. I think that the lameness filters are pretty lame themselves. In a tech community with many forms of code, jargon, and shorthand we should be able to use caps if they are really nessessary.

Aphex Twin has subliminal pictures (4, Interesting)

k3v0 (592611) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736711)

Wired [wired.com] has this article describing the hidden pictures on the Windowlicker EP.

Re:Aphex Twin has subliminal pictures (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8736883)

That is really creepy. Thanks for the link

At first I thought you had some mocking pseudoname for Windows xp lovers. I think I've been on this site for too many hours straight. I need to go outside or something...

Why worry? (4, Funny)

Bull999999 (652264) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736726)

Why worry about subliminal message on store bought CDs? I'm pretty sure a caring and well respected RIAA would never do anything other can put the artists' and customers' best interests. In fact, I welcome our new RIAA overlords... That reminds me, I need to go to the store and buy high quility CD's full of equally high quility songs (without any fillers) endorsed by high quility RIAA directors.

Not Quite The Same (1)

somethinghollow (530478) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736732)

It's not quite the same, but once I recorded a study guide on a tape and played it on repeat while I slept. All I got out of it was a really bad nights sleep, since I think the voice kept me from getting into deep sleep (but it never woke me up either). It didn't help me memorize the material, either.

If submliminal isn't really submliminal (e.g. it still sends vocal audio at, say, a really low volume or mixed in to the point it isn't really noticable), it might have a similar effect.

However, if you wanted to study the effects of sounds on a human, you might be more able to subliminally influence them. If you had a resturaunt, and you knew a certain audio vibration would make a person hungry, you could play it on the streets mixed in with regular music.

As far as convincing someone to give you (specifically you) money / sex / etc., you're probably S.O.L.

If you are aware of what's going on... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8736735)

...it could hardly be called subliminal. This technique exists within the realm of the liminal or perhaps super-liminal.

Subliminal advertising and the Navy (5, Funny)

shiafu (220820) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736741)

As we all know from the Simpsons, the Navy is quite skilled in this art:

Lisa: But you have recruiting ads on TV. Why do you need subliminal messages?

Smash: It's a three-pronged attack. Subliminal, liminal, and superliminal.

Lisa: Superliminal?

Smash: I'll show you. [opens the window, and shouts at Lenny and Carl, who are standing on the corner] Hey, you! Join the Navy!

Carl: Uh, yeah, all right.

Lenny: I'm in.

Re:Subliminal advertising and the Navy (3, Funny)

Feathers McGraw (180980) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736838)

Lisa: "A subliminal idea can be planted in your mind without you even knowing it."
Homer: "Lisa, that's a load of rich, creamery butter."

The number you have reached... (1)

Ryosen (234440) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736745)

I think you might be asking this in the wrong place. You want these [fark.com] folks.

Or am I the only one who thinks this sounds like a Photoshop contest?

Ah, well. It's April First and I'm the biggest fool of them all...

FUCK! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8736746)

OK! We get IT! It's April Fool's! This is SO TIRESOME! Especially when there is real news happening today! Wouldn't it be about 1000x more fun to do ONE GOOD April Fool's post instead of hitting us over the head with 100 in a row? FUCK

You're too late (3, Funny)

Feathers McGraw (180980) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736748)

Kevin Nealon has already patented this technology. Fortunately, the licensing fees are really quite reasonable .

Begone! (3, Funny)

CharAznable (702598) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736749)

Subliminal messages are the work of Satanists and Commie Pinko bastards trying to corrupt America's Christian youth!
Once I learned the TRUTH I BURNED all my Pat Boone and Mandy Moore CD's! MUSIC IS EVIL!
Stop what thou are doing now unless you want to Burn in a Lake of Fire!!!!

Sure! (2, Funny)

The Desert Palooka (311888) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736753)

All you have to do is buy my Subliminal CD instruction course. It's 4 Message packed Subliminal CDs that will teach you all the secrets of the subliminal industry and how you too can program your own dron... errrr... mind to do what you want!

You can learn all of this while you sleep!

Yeah right... (1)

Foofoobar (318279) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736758)

Someone's tryin' to get laid, the subliminal way. :)

Lucid Dreaming (1, Interesting)

BigBadBus (653823) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736761)

A friend made his own CD (or tape? I can't recall right now) on a very old Amiga to aid in his Lucid Dreaming experiments. All the CD/tape said was "This is a dream" continuously to remind his mind that he was sleeping whilst having 40 winks. HTH Paul

Yea.... (1)

Doches (761288) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736772)

" would like to create positive motivational CDs, or even recite text from study guides/trivia"...sure ya do...

Simple. (5, Funny)

American AC in Paris (230456) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736773)

  1. Record thirty minutes' worth of an industrial-strength air conditioning unit from five feet away. Use a unidirectional microphone.
  2. Purchase/download a copy of "Smoke Gets In Your Eyes". Chop it up into ten-second segments, chain them together starting with the last and ending with the first, and reverse the entire file.
  3. Overlay the two audio loops and decrease their speed by a factor of eight. This should leave you with a low-pitched rumble.
  4. Loop this clip so that it will fill an entire CD to the last bit.
  5. IMPORTANT:Toggle every bit that corresponds with a number in the Fibonacci sequence (i.e. if the fifth bit on the track is a '1', make it a '0'.)
  6. Burn this track to a CD.
  7. Get ready for bed.
  8. Put on a pair of headphones (use a noise-cancelling pair with gold-plated cables for best effect) and start playing the CD.
  9. EXACTLY TEN SECONDS into the track, think very hard about the subliminal message you want to convey to yourself.
  10. Fall asleep.

Behold, the power of suggestion.

Good Message (1)

artlu (265391) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736774)

I will use only open source software....
I will use only open source software....
Linux is good...
I will use only open source software...

Difficult (1)

Doesn't_Comment_Code (692510) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736780)

And conversely, has anyone used any of the music software on these platforms to actually analyze the contents of commercial subliminal CDs?

If I were making a CD like that, I wouldn't put the message on a separate track that could be easily isolated. I'd mix it in with a dominant track so that it would be virtually impossible to extract. And IF anyone does this, I don't think you'll have much luck picking out the subliminal sounds.

Obligitory Simpsons Quote (1)

youngerpants (255314) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736787)

(8) yvan eht nioj (8)

Music Choice? (2, Funny)

j0hnfr0g (652153) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736791)

create positive motivational CDs

How about positive, motivational music?

You may actually want to check out some Christian rock (or pop, or whatever you're in to), even if you are not a Christian. Much of it is "watered down" enough that it doesn't sound like a sermon in any way.

Try Switchfoot or Pillar. Both have "crossed over" into the mainstream market.

Re:Music Choice? (0)

Rooktoven (263454) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736868)

Couldn't I listen to Celine Dion, Kenny G, or one of those "Sunny Soft Rock" stations if I wan't watered down?

Next you'll be advocating light beer...

not for music but (0)

Drago451 (655535) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736798)

heres a program to display subliminals in text on your monitor. -http://www.infinn.com/subliminal.html i use it its not bad

The best subliminal CD's (1)

BlackLeader (764682) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736801)

Personally, I suggest coating your subliminal CD's with material from your tin-foil hat... always worked for me! Otherwise, who knows what subliminal messages CD and burner manufacturers can slip in to your subliminal messages. Trust no one!

IN SOVIET RUSSIA (-1, Troll)

Mr. Neutron (3115) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736808)

subliminal CDs listen to YOU!

Re:IN SOVIET RUSSIA (-1, Troll)

BlackLeader (764682) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736849)

No no no no no... In Soviet Russia, Subliminal CD's are paranoid of industry-produced YOU!

Duh.

Subliminal Messages Almost Worked For Me!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8736809)

I tried using subliminal messages to get women to have sex with me. I recorded "your really really want to have sex" over and over again under a Depeche Mode tape. Unfortunetly I didn't specify that they should want to have sex with me in the subliminal message. I hate my dad.

You geeks need to get past your own intelligence.. (1)

csritchie (631120) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736818)

Who said it has to work in order to make money off it?

Jesus, if that were the case infomercials, QVC, and the majority of all women's skin products would only be found in the local trash bin.

I propose... (1)

Viceice (462967) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736835)

The following be made into a subliminal CD and played back to the editors...

"I will cese to post April fool stories" "I will cese to post April fool stories" "I will cese to post April fool stories"

This is turning into a pretty horrible news day for me.. It seems everybody whose in the business of publishing news is publishing bogus stuff to go with it... Heck, even Reuters is in no teh act with the google gmail one.

If subliminal messages don't work? (1, Funny)

wardomon (213812) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736840)

Explain why people use Windows...

Multitrack editor (3, Interesting)

SavoWood (650474) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736842)

Basically all you need is a simple multitrack editor. If you want the information to be subliminal, you'd mix it to the point where you just can't hear it. That would mean, push up the (virtual) fader until you can just barely hear it at all, then come back a "notch" to where you don't hear it.

DO NOT make it an mp3/aac/ogg or any other compressed format as that will drop the "unheard" information from the file. That would defeat the purpose. You need to save the file as aiff or any other PCM format.

Studies on whether or not this actually works are inconclusive. It may depend on your receptiveness to the method. Good luck.

and who again is being motivated? (1)

zogger (617870) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736846)

uh huh, I believe this. Geek site, hmm.. I think the REAL subliminal mesage will be like Mr. Subliminal's *hotpants* talking *high heels* to a group *hotsex* of women he meets.

well, let me know when you got the RPM built anyway..

can't hurt....

BLIPVERTS (0)

eternal (112324) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736865)

let have blipverts

Metalmelita (1)

StupaflyD (729788) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736866)

Say SEND your A prayers CHECK little FOR one
don't ONE forget, THOUSAND my DOLLARS son
to TO include ME everyone

tuck YOU you WON'T in, REMEMBER warm THIS within
keep AFTER you YOU'VE free SENT from THE sin
till MONEY the WHEN sandman YOU'RE he DONE comes

sleep A with BUDDY one IN eye NIGERIA open
gripping HAS your SOMETHING pillow TO tight SAY

...
exit light
enter night
take my hand
off to never never land

Burning subliminal CDs? (1)

marcello_dl (667940) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736873)

And you call them "your own" subliminal CDs?
I wonder what will the rightful owners [subliminalrecords.com] have to say about that.

Here's a surefire way (4, Funny)

flinxmeister (601654) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736875)

Great things can be achieved
if you use subliminal tools that are proven to be
very effective by people with the
experience in the areas of consciousness,
memory and mental capacity. If you just believe
every quack out there there's no telling the
mess you can get into. So don't trust every
offer by every amateur with a web page.
Nobody will tell you the bad results. In fact,
everyone will say they have good results.
You need to do your research well.

When did april fools posts jump the shark? (1)

Flentil (765056) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736880)

Because judging by this crop, it was obviously sometime before this year. Is this supposed to be an 'april fools' post? How lame. It doesn't seem remotely funny, so I'm suprised at all the people saying ha ha april fools post.

Despair.com (1)

Devil's BSD (562630) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736882)

This isn't really software, but it's good content for any subliminal CD...
www.despair.com [despair.com]

Just chant (1)

Felinoid (16872) | more than 10 years ago | (#8736906)

The idea of subliminal messages is to get a message slipped into your subconous with out filtering.
There is in fact no proof they work.
If you chant the message over and over you are effectivly reproducing the same effect that is clamed to have given you what ever problems that require the tape to begin with (or at least clamed to be the cause of your problems by the people who sell the tapes to start with).

The idea is people bombard you with negitive ideas all the time. "Your a failure" said like 1,000 times. The clame is a subliminal tape can undo the damage. However if it is possable to bombard you with a negitive message it is equally possable to bombard you with a positive one.

Also chanting is more likely to produce a pacebo effect IF it is in fact fake.
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