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Mac Contest Roundup

pudge posted more than 10 years ago | from the themes-and-games-and-cookies-oh-my dept.

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MacThemes.net writes "MacThemes.net has had over 45 artists submit entries to our Theme Mockup Contest, of which the top six will be created into actual themes by established themers. Prizes of over a thousand dollars of software and cash will be awarded. Until this Sunday, readers and visitors are asked to visit our entries archive and vote for the submissions. Winners are expected to be announced Monday, April 5th." blobbo writes "iDevGames announces the opening of '21 Days Later', a programming mini-contest that is designed to motivate and educate Mac game developers. It is open to developers from around the globe, and the source code from all entries will be released as open source."

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Goodbye horses my love (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8749062)

You told me, I see you rise [thekremlin.net]
But, it always falls
I see you come, I see you go
You say, All things pass into the night
And I say, Oh no sir I must say you're wrong
I must disagree, oh no sir, I must say you're wrong
Won't you listen to me
You told me, I've seen it all before
Been there, I've seen my hopes and dreams
A lying on the ground
I've seen the sky just begin to fall
And you say, All things pass into the night
And I say, Oh no sir, I must say you're wrong
I must disagree, oh no sir, I must say you're wrong
Won't you listen to me [thekremlin.net]
Good-bye horses I'm lying over you [thekremlin.net]
Good-bye horses I'm lying over you [thekremlin.net]

Well, some people worked pretty hard ... (5, Insightful)

daviddennis (10926) | more than 10 years ago | (#8749138)

but the main thing I brought back from this is how great the original is.

I looked at every theme, and there seem to be three tendancies:

One is to make it bright, gaudy and hard on the eyes;

The other is to make it so dark it's hard on the eyes. Some of these look very nice, but I wouldn't want to risk my continued vision on them.

And the last set simply makes them as much as possible like things that already exist, which shows a fatal lack of imagination.

It's obviously a lot harder to invent a good visual look than one might think, but for the time being, I'm sticking with what Steve provided me with, with a newer, renewed respect for how hard his designers' jobs are. I even have a little sympathy for his allegedly fascist desire to prohibit the development of themes for MacOS X entirely.

D

Mod parent up (4, Insightful)

Hackie_Chan (678203) | more than 10 years ago | (#8749171)

Every single time I've used theme changers for my Mac, which has been a lot of times (more than ten) it always end with that I turn it back in to Aqua. Why? It's the most eye pleasing theme there is. The same thing now applies to Panther from Jaguar -- I can't believe that I actually used a system where the stripes were so rough before! Apple really knows what it's doing.

Re:Mod parent up (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8754534)

Why? It's the most eye pleasing theme there is.

You know, the real reason why you always switch back is because that's the original, plain and simple. Not because it's necessarily better or worse, but because it's the default. That sounds too simplistic but it is always true. It's why most XP users switch back to the classic theme. I've heard countless XP users say 'I love the new round look', only to find out that they've switched back after a few days, weeks, or months.

Whatever changes Apple makes in the next revision, you'll prefer it. Of course they have many talented people paid to work on it, but the real reason is always because that's what they give you.

Re:Mod parent up (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8763298)

Sorry, I disagree. Panther strikes me as slimy, dirty, oily, and ugly. Functional it's not. You have nearly no change from an inactive title bar to an active one. Transparency which was good on Jaguar is way down. Gray as a background colour is always going to suck because the contrast with the printed word is halved.

Sure, a lot of people didn't like the pinstripes, but they were functional. A lot of people didn't like Jar-Jar either, but I could give a damn.

When you compare Panther with Keith Ohlfs's NeXTSTEP, I think two things are apparent:

1.) Ohlfs's NeXTSTEP today looks dated.

2.) It's still got gobs more character and style. It may not be white, but Ohlfs knew his shit.

There are other things that are 'downhill' with Panther, so I will wait and see what this year's 'upgrade' is. I have Panther; I have had it since before Day One; but I refuse to run it. I just don't like it. Not one iota.

Try Milk (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8765891)

Upon RTFA I decided to give themes another try, despite the fact that like you, I always seem to end up switching back to Aqua and giving up themes. However, I found an excellent (good looking and usable) theme called Milk [macthemes.net] you might want to try. I've noticed that Milk seems to be the most common theme used (besides Aqua). I love the way Safari looks in the Milk theme.

Re:Well, some people worked pretty hard ... (2, Interesting)

radicalskeptic (644346) | more than 10 years ago | (#8753540)

You're completely right:

I use Unsanity Software's Shapeshifter [unsanity.com] theme changer.

Can you guess what my two favourite themes are? "Aqua Extreme [maxthemes.com] " and "Smooth Stripes [maxthemes.com] ." They're basically just Aqua with slight tweaks, such as removing the pinstripes, adding sunken buttons instead of raised buttons, and getting rid of the streaks in brushed metal, etc.

I've found that every single theme I've tried that strays too far from Aqua ends up being a total disaster.

Re:Well, some people worked pretty hard ... (3, Informative)

lars-o-matic (533381) | more than 10 years ago | (#8755713)

I like Flagship by Topsy Designs [topsydesigns.com] and Latium by Harlan Lewis [digitalramen.com] .

Both are strongly non-Aqua in appearance. Flagship is blue & gold, very contrasty but somehow not hard on the eyes. It took me a couple days to fully appreciate, but it has been our default home theme for months.

Latium has hand-drawn-looking widgets and an off-grey paper-looking background -- should look dirty or scratchy, but doesn't. (The v. atmospheric wallpapers help.)

Excellent execution and attention to detail can make unlikely-seeming concepts usable & pleasing.

Usability (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8753716)

The problem is that most people who consider themselfes great skinners have absolutely no idea about usability or have the basic skills of design. Look at all the skins for Winamp, Mozilla/Firefox/TB, Windows or what ever. 99% is crap. Most of those people consider releasing a skin every week something great. Sometimes the authors have something like 30 different skins released. WTF? Do they eat their own dogfood? I do not think so.

Look at Tunderbird and Firefox for Windows. The main theme is PLAIN UGLY, who came up with that Quake activity indicator? You are trying to reach professional users or kids? If I had a boss (and Windows) he propably would ask WTF I a wasting my time on with kids software or something.

Now have a look at those examples:
[kmgerich.com]

Pinstripe for TB [kmgerich.com]

Does it look good? It does. Does it look professional? Yes. Does it have little skulls bouncing around? No!

I do not have anything against skinning functionality in applications, I have something against people running the skin archives coz they have no clue about the basic standards of Usability and taste. They should tell those people with 30 submitted skins to fcuk off and get a life.

Re:Usability (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8753746)

Whoops. I've hit submit instead of preview.

the first link goes to Firefox skin on kmgerich.com... the second to Pinestripe Thunderbird made by the same guys.

I do not think I ever have seen any skins from them before....

Re:Well, some people worked pretty hard ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8757595)

I think this is what you might be looking for.
http://www.artofadambetts.com/macthemes/entr ies/pr olcd-prev.jpg

Re:Well, some people worked pretty hard ... (1)

dthree (458263) | more than 10 years ago | (#8758688)

A lot of them remind me of Kalidescope themes as far back as System 7. A couple are cool but thats all.

Speaking of theming and such... (3, Insightful)

hbmartin (579860) | more than 10 years ago | (#8749429)

The OS X icon needs to be changed. It's already two years behind. Not that I'm complaining or anything.

Re:Speaking of theming and such... (1)

Carthag (643047) | more than 10 years ago | (#8755800)

The one that's changed from bondi blue over jaguar-spots to polished metal?

Re:Speaking of theming and such... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8762897)

Why the fuck does Slashdot need a different icon for every revision of an os? Do they have a linux-2.6.2.1 kernel icon? Do they *even have* an XP icon, let alone a Win98, 2000, ME, Longhorn, etc.?

NOBODY on Slashdot gets more concessions than Apple, due to the fact that all the editors are switchers. But asking Slashdot to pay someone to upgrade their icon at the whim of Steve is retarded. Should they change their "I Would Blow Steve Jobs" icon whenever he changes his underwear color? Shit, retard.

And who modded this insightful? It's not like its a vital fucking feature that is causing people to boycott the site. Shit again, retards.

Why are themes so bad? (4, Insightful)

baryon351 (626717) | more than 10 years ago | (#8749459)

I'm amazed at the complete lack of subtlety in any of these themes (ok, except for one of them [artofadambetts.com] which looks OK.

Does anyone here use the really black black themes? I find them a pain switching from a black desktop to a suddenly white browser window for example.

And some of the gaudy ones... just want to make my powerbook burst into flame [danamania.com]

Re:Why are themes so bad? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8749546)

If you look around the rest of that burnt powerbook site the author has many photoshopped pictures of macs that dont exist so I suspect the burnt powerbook isn't real either but another good photoshop check how one of the photos is "out of focus" and another one the keys look like burnt paper not plastic

Re:Why are themes so bad? (2, Interesting)

TeamSPAM (166583) | more than 10 years ago | (#8750407)

I think the following themes had potential: Simple Grey, NickelCobalt, Cold Chrome. The rest I didn't think were so hot, and I agree the black themes are to dark. I personally would prefer a nice light to medium gray theme if I used one, I tend to stick with Apple's default UI but in the graphite colors.

Re:Why are themes so bad? (2, Interesting)

baryon351 (626717) | more than 10 years ago | (#8750499)

I'm really simple. I'd love to see Apple's Platinum look make a return, with concessions to the layout of OSX. There's a platinum theme in existence that goes a good way towards that goal, but it's not quite 100%... and doesn't fully work on panther anyway.

I know it's probably one for those of us who sharpened our teeth on classic macos, so there's probably very little demand for it.

Re:Why are themes so bad? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8750638)

Dood! I know this is OT, but WTF torched your PB like that?! It totally makes me shudder at the thought!

Re:Why are themes so bad? (-1, Troll)

Amiga Lover (708890) | more than 10 years ago | (#8750896)

That the result of a lithium ion battery that's badly made shorting out inside itself and "venting with flame". What it means is the battery suddenly goes into an uncontrolled reaction and splits, and on contact with air it shoots hot lithium metal out everywhere.

Whoever this happened to I bet has some pretty bad burns to show for themselves. This is the third powerbook I have seen to do this I think apple will have another class action suit on their hands.

Re:Why are themes so bad? (1)

TheRIAAMustDie (628852) | more than 10 years ago | (#8753870)

No, it's a fake. Geez, someone here is sure to believe _anything_ that someone mocks up in Photoshop. Take a look at his gallery of 'v-hacks' [danamania.com] on his site.

Re:Why are themes so bad? (2, Interesting)

arson1 (527855) | more than 10 years ago | (#8750920)

I was just about to post the same thing. Out of every 100 themes there seems to be one decent one. You'd figure in the Mac world there would be some creative people jumping all over this.

Re:Why are themes so bad? (4, Interesting)

Johnathon_Dough (719310) | more than 10 years ago | (#8752773)

hmmm. I always figured in the linux world there would be more inspired software coming out, but it seems that only 1 out of 100 is usefull.

Just because someone uses a Mac does not mean they actually have any graphical talent. Just like someone who has managed to set up LInux(i have) can then bust out a decent script and or full fledged application(I DEFINTELY can not).

I've worked for 10 years on a mac as a photo-retoucher. And weep whenever it is time to start looking at resume/portfolios for a new hire.

Many many many {repeat x10} people out there, Mac and Windows think they are artisticly inclined with photoshop. [cough] bull$hit [cough cough]. Look at Fark's photoshop contests, or if you are feeling particularly masochistic, follow this link... [syddware.com] This typical of people who say they are "photo-retouchers".

For the other side...check out Saddington Baynes [sb-showcase.com] .(not where I work, don't want to be accused of plugging...)

Re:Why are themes so bad? (1)

Rinikusu (28164) | more than 10 years ago | (#8764565)

No shit. Just because someone can use a bunch of filters and come up with something that might be nifty, doesn't mean they know jack shit about the software. I'm a photoshop novice, and am not afraid to admit it. I have no desire to go beyond the plugin stage (Kai's Power Tools, mainly, to generate procedural textures, which I then modify for use in 3D modelling/tile generation). I also do not claim to be some sort of uber-guru, which I suppose is better than 99% of the so-called "hacks" I see running around thinking they know what the hell they're doing.

Re:Why are themes so bad? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8750961)

And some of the gaudy ones... just want to make my powerbook burst into flame. [danamania.com]

How much you wanna bet that powerbook still boots?

Re:Why are themes so bad? (2, Informative)

TheRIAAMustDie (628852) | more than 10 years ago | (#8753839)

haha nice fake on the powerbook fire.. the other photoshop work on the site (gallery here) [danamania.com] is pretty good, some funny ones.

But you know you're going to spread FUD with this..

Oh well.

The Milk theme is one of the only ones that don't make my old monitor look fuzzy under OS X. Some other good themes, not in this contest, can be found here. ResExcellence [resexcellence.com]

Re:Why are themes so bad? (0, Flamebait)

Amiga Lover (708890) | more than 10 years ago | (#8754025)

haha nice fake on the powerbook fire.. the other photoshop work on the site (gallery here) is pretty good, some funny ones.

lol. nice one apple apologist putting a burnt battery down to being photoshop! lol. That's pretty rich. If you think that's a photo retouching job then I have a bridge to sell you

hayy-suus on the cross (-1, Troll)

odenshaw (471011) | more than 10 years ago | (#8749641)

They all are horrible, with some just a little less horrible than the rest.

hey check it out (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8750114)

It's a well known fact that Apple, since its inception, has been a haven for "free thinkers" and "progressive thought," heralded by none other than famous acid-tripping Steve Jobs and his hippy buddies from California. It was on one of the famous beach parties, notorious for getting out of hand, that Clarus was born.

It was a balmy night in August 1983 that Jobs held yet another beach party, this one with a special theme: who could come up with a mascot for the Mac development team? Of course, the Apple II team was there and tensions, as always, were high. That didn't deter the Mac team from bringing their "pet," Clara, a cow they'd been raising on the Apple campus since birth.

Clara was birthed by the Mac team when they'd held a party on the Apple campus and had hired a bull-breeder as entertainment. All night long, the bull-breeder studded Hercules, his prize bull, with an assortment of cows. As the festivities continued throughout the night, a strange moaning was coming from one of the trailers. One of the cows he'd brought with him was, unbeknownst to the bull-breeder, pregnant! The Mac development team, being the resourceful hackers they were, helped give birth to the calf, the mother losing its life in the process. The bull-breeder was so taken by the Mac dev team's efforts he let them keep the cow, which they named Clara.

Now, at the August 1983 beach party, the Mac team lobbied for Jobs to adopt Clara as the development mascot of the Macintosh. The Apple II team, spurned and bitter because of dwindling sales and neglect at the hand of Jobs, had brought their own mascot-- Cletus, a vicious Rotweiler they'd bought from a ruddy-faced street man in the ghetto of Cupertino for $25. Cletus was a frothing, flea-and-mange ridden terror that barked at the least provocation. The Apple II team fed it raw goat meat and corrupted 5.25 floppies to make it mean. They also kicked it and made sure its chain was too tight at all time. Here at the party was their chance for revenge at Jobs and his favorite Mac development team.

As the night wore on, both the Apple II and Mac teams got drunker and drunker before Jobs called for a company vote on the mascot. What met the company's faces was something none of them could have imagined, however.

In their drunken, stoned stupor, the embittered Apple II team had snuck into Clara's trailer and cut the rear end of off Clara! Drugging her with ether to staunch her cries, they had used an electric chainsaw, cut her back legs and rectum cleanly off, and taken them to the bonfire to cook and eat. They'd even fed some to the drunk Mac dev team! After they'd done this, they forced Cletus into the gaping hole in Clara's rear end. Gnawing away at his first real meal in months, Cletus lodged himself in Clara's colon and couldn't break free. So when the Mac dev team opened Clara's trailer and led their pet down the ramp, they were met with a bloody, gut-strewn mess and a weird, unnatural animal call of "moof!"

The entire company was sickened by this and soon the sand was dotted with puddles of vomit. Cries of "moof, moof!" filled the air as the joined dog-cow trundled terribly along the beach, seizuring with each step, vomiting an icky mass of hair and blood, with a glazed look in its cow eyes. With a final shudder, the dog-cow fell and died, and the partygoers surrounded the putrid mess of bovine/canine flesh. Of course, it didn't take long for the Mac dev team to discover the Apple II team's treachery and a bloody brawl ensued over the death of Clara. By the end of the night, the cow, the dog, and the Apple II team were simple piles of broken, bloody bones.

In light of the events that night, Jobs had no other choice to commemorate the tragic events that had unfurled and therefore made Apple's development mascot the dog-cow, "Clarus," a merging of the two animals names-- Cletus and Clara.

And that, for those who didn't know, is the origin of Clarus the dog-cow. Every time you click on a Mac OS Easter-egg that utters "moof," you can look back to the terrible events that August, 1983 night at the Apple beach party that brought you the Clarus, the Apple dog-cow.

whatever happened to the uDevGames2003 source? (3, Interesting)

mzs (595629) | more than 10 years ago | (#8750129)

I heard about uDevGames2003 a long while ago. After the contest the source code and binaries of all of the games was supposed to have been made availble. I just took a look and I cannot find it anywhere on the idevgames site. The closest I could get was this press realease [idevgames.com] . The Downloads [idevgames.com] page is essentially empty save for the 21days readme file. Am I just looking in the wrong place? Probably I should use the Contacts page and get a hold of someone there, but maybe another slashdot reader knows so that I do not look stupid twice. I do remember that the idevgames web site 'looked' a whole lot different last year, so it seems someone is maintaining and updating it.

Re:whatever happened to the uDevGames2003 source? (5, Informative)

fuzzdawg (671742) | more than 10 years ago | (#8750285)

iDG was down for about 2 months, right after the Jnauary annoucement of 21 days later due to a security breach. The person who runs the site had to upgrade his system, and is currently running it from his home.
Give him a bit of time to get the site back in order. :)

GUI Olympics (3, Informative)

lotsofno (733224) | more than 10 years ago | (#8750415)

In comparison to what the Windows/Litestep/WindowBlinds communities have been putting out for a while now, these submissions are pretty unimpressive.

There's a similar "theme" competition also running for PC users looking for customization, called the GUI Olympics [guiolympics.com] . They'll be accepting entries until May, but already they have some really nice Winamp skins [guiolympics.com] and Windows themes [guiolympics.com] . Anyone interested in seeing what some of the biggest names in "skinning" are up to should check it out.

Re:GUI Olympics (3, Informative)

Synesthesiatic (679680) | more than 10 years ago | (#8750538)

In comparison to what the Windows/Litestep/WindowBlinds communities have been putting out for a while now, these submissions are pretty unimpressive.

These are just mockups by people who don't even know how to make themes. Part of the prize for winning is having a professional themer make it a reality. Look here [macthemes.net] for some real themes.

--Adam

Re:GUI Olympics (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8762981)

NO they're not you liar. I just fucking downloaded one of their WinXP skins and ran it.

YOU FUCKING LIAR.

Shit, I know you born-again mac-zealot fucks LOVE Apple more than life itself, but there's no reason to lie about Windows to make an Apple sale. You make me sick. Just when I think the Mac is okay, I remember the assholes who use them and spend their days selling them here on Slashdot. Jesus Christ.

And good work, mods. As usual, something totally false is labelled informative.

Re:GUI Olympics (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8768740)

As opposed to you, whose perky attitude makes everyone want to be just like you!

Re:GUI Olympics (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8771613)

Next time take the 2 seconds to click the supplied link before attempting to prove how great you are by flaming somebody completely out of proportion to any misconceived slight. And if you still don't understand: the MacThemes contest is entirely made up of mockups, not usable themes. The comment was only tangentially related to GUI Olympics. Your misinterpretation, your flame, your foot in your mouth.

New Gaming (3, Interesting)

artlu (265391) | more than 10 years ago | (#8750539)

Hopefully, contests like this will influence the random programmer to start developing something useful. Look at that trailblazer app that recently was cited on slashdot. Definitely awesome! A friend of mine is working on a 2d RPG similar to the old secret of mana games. He is designing it for Mac. We need more of this!

Re:New Gaming (1)

CoolMoDee (683437) | more than 10 years ago | (#8763538)

way cool! does he have a webpage up about it? It would be cool if more people just picked up and started writing games (or helping for that matter), but the problem is, finding artists for all of the games out there. It seems like artists (generally speaking) aren't as willing to devote some time to a project as coders are (without pay that is).

Re:New Gaming (1)

artlu (265391) | more than 10 years ago | (#8764801)

No not yet, he has just started actually. He is waiting for the new G5's to come out before he purchases one for the sole purpose of this game development, but hopefully when he has some type of website up it will get slashdotted!

aqua (4, Insightful)

minus_273 (174041) | more than 10 years ago | (#8750855)

whats wrong with it? I think it is great. The brushed metal is also a nice touch

Mod Parent Up! (1)

bennomatic (691188) | more than 10 years ago | (#8764902)

Gotta agree; they do good work at Apple. Good enough that I can get my work done without having to futz around with everything endlessly to no real purpose.

Once I changed the default system font so that my menu bar and file names and everything showed up in "sand", but that quicly lost its fun. I have my background images cycle through my vacation photos [dimspace.com] , but other than that, I don't waste my time modifying the environment.

I didn't like them... (4, Insightful)

truthgun (62387) | more than 10 years ago | (#8752049)

I pretty much agree with many of the other posters, the themes were dull, too dark or just plain ugly.
My problem is I want something that looks good that is easy to read. I need high contrast but not black on white because it gets too bright. The font has to be clean, sans serif or I can't read it. Bceause I also need the font size to be larger I want the frame around windows to be smaller so that I still can fit more than one window on my monitor.
I also want it to be pretty because pretty things are pleasing to the eye.

Needless to say I haven't really found a theme I like regardsless of os. I tend to choose something simple and then costumize colors and fonts as much as I can.

And let's not forget Pixelpalooza... (4, Informative)

Chief Typist (110285) | more than 10 years ago | (#8752183)

We're running Pixelpalooza [iconfactory.com] at the Iconfactory. It's the longest running (and first?) on-line design contest for the Mac desktop -- starting in 1997 [iconfactory.com] .

The final submissions are being posted now [iconfactory.com] and we're going to start public voting next week (April 6th.)

-ch

Re:And let's not forget Pixelpalooza... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8763542)

Nice to see so many hard-working Mac freaks getting the job done.

If this doesn't show the world why the Mac will never be mainstream and business, I don't know what will.

And personally I'd rather have a Mac than a theme, and guess what? Legacy users are a pain in the ass. I am much more interested in seeing that 2% market share become something substantial.

With these kontests dominating the Apple landskape, it's hardly likely all those other Forbes 500 companies will ever look in the direction of Cupertino - fabulous Xgrid or not.

oh the irony! (1)

CoolMoDee (683437) | more than 10 years ago | (#8763551)

oh the irony! A site that mainly does mac stuff running asp and a windows server. (would atleast thought bsd or linux or something non-windows).

Nice site (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8767363)

you should allow ACs for pist frosts and such. Coz most people are to lazy to sell their soul, wait for the password and instructions etc...

Quick note on PHP & MySQL on OSX. You should always include a newbie version of a howto. Since you are now using OS X the steps are:

- Download PHP,
- Drag in App folder
- ???
- Profit!!!

Maybe not so easy for php, but you will get the point. Compiling stuff from the beginning to the end is lame and something for Linux users.

The steps for getting PHP & MySQL up and running in less than few clicks are:
Download PHP from here [entropy.ch] & follow easy steps.

Download mysql from here [entropy.ch] and follow easy steps.

That's all.

Re:Nice site (1)

CoolMoDee (683437) | more than 10 years ago | (#8781591)

thanks! About the ac posting, I was talking with a friend about that last week, but never got around to it. I have just enabled it, thanks for the reminder :-) James

Closed source - who cares (1, Flamebait)

Jack Auf (323064) | more than 10 years ago | (#8752459)

It's a shame that all the winning themes, if and when they are completed, will only be compatible with Unsanity's ShapeShifter. Which is fine except that it's closed source and proprietary.

I still have OSX 10.2.8 on my primary Mac because ShapeShifter seems to be the only game in town for themes on 10.3.x, and I think it was kind of sneaky the way they got all the big themers on board around a proprietary standard for theme packages and a proprietary engine and then started charging for it.

If we were talking about a doc or media formats most of you would agree that this is a bad thing, why should theme engines be any different?

Re:Closed source - who cares (4, Informative)

wibs (696528) | more than 10 years ago | (#8752921)

There is an alternative, sort of. It's called XTender, and its public beta [macthemes.net] was incredibly unimpressive. The day after XTender went public an update was made to ShapeShifter, and everyone again realized how good it was.

Also, ShapeShifter has cost money since its inception. No underhanded tactics there... although it did have the big themers involved in its creation to do the things that they wanted to do. The same guy develops the theme changing [unsanity.com] and theme creating [geekspiff.com] software, and he is very approachable in regards to feature requests and bug reports. ShapeShifter is technically under the Unsanity umbrella, but Jason Harris makes both. ThemePark (to create themes) also allows exporting to many other non-guikit formats, including the format native to ShapeShifter's competitor (XTheme), and the format supported by Open Source alternatives such as ThemeChanger. [sourceforge.net]

All ShapeShifter guikits can be extracted into images and a Extras.rsrc file using Guikitty. They can't be directly used by another application, so in a sense it is closed and proprietary, but the above mentioned XTender was able to automatically load ShapeShifter guikits if you had Guikitty installed.

Another big point is that a lot of themes use ShapeShifter because it has features that go above and beyond what is capable with any other theme changer, even in terms of things as simple as changing text colors.

Competition is always good, don't get me wrong. But there isn't a whole lot to complain about with ShapeShifter, and any competition it has had has been crushed despite the higher price tag because of ease of use, features, and theme-changing safety (it doesn't modify any system files, or even attempt to overlay those owned by root).

And finally, theres nothing preventing the winning theme from being released in the DLTA (aka Open Source friendly) format as well, the only restriction would be if the theme requires features that are only available in ShapeShifter.

Alright, I think that about makes the case...

Macintoshes (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8757428)

Blimey! Everytime Me cross the pond Me have to get fingerprinted? I'd better stop wearing women's clothing. Bloody 'ell, those damn Yanks. Well, Me best be catching me a lorry so Me can have tea with me mum. Hope Me don't break me arm cause Me'd hate to have to wait 18 hours in searing pain in the emergency loo. 4 pounds sterling for a gallon of gas? Well, at least it isnt 4 pounds 50 like last year. God hail the Queen for providing for us. Bob's your uncle and all that. Cheerio.

somebody should mention (0, Offtopic)

squarefish (561836) | more than 10 years ago | (#8761150)

this [corbis.com]

Re:somebody should mention (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8763048)

Microsoft owns Corbis, and they're giving away G5's? I knew Bill and Steve were buddies (Steve said they vacation together sometimes), but this is ridiculous.
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