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Skype Releases PocketPC Version Of VoIP Software

simoniker posted about 10 years ago | from the mobile-phone? dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "According to WindowsForDevices.com, Skype Technologies has launched a free beta release of peer-to-peer voice calling software for WiFi-enabled handheld devices running Microsoft's Pocket PC software platform. PocketSkype is a 'thin' version of Skype, the company's original peer-to-peer voice-calling for Windows PCs which was released in August 2003. Like Skype, PocketSkype can be used to make free, unlimited, and unmetered calls anywhere in the world."

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wow-- the first piece of pocket pc spyware? (5, Insightful)

way2trivial (601132) | about 10 years ago | (#8793746)

brought to you by the malkers of kazaa

is there any spyware for the pocketpc that predates? I hope they got a patent on it..

Re:wow-- the first piece of pocket pc spyware? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#8793866)

I've downloaded and didn't see any spyware. I'm impressed with the sound quality and speed.

Re:wow-- the first piece of pocket pc spyware? (2, Informative)

subzerorz (769341) | about 10 years ago | (#8793974)

The same goes for the desktop version which is awesome. Can't wait to use to call on land lines.

Skype seems fine to me. (2, Interesting)

Futurepower(R) (558542) | about 10 years ago | (#8794864)


Skype seems fine to me. It has much better sound quality than regular telephones. I use it to talk to a friend in France. Neither of us have ever seen any bad behavior in Skype, in several months of use.

For those who want to use the traditional communication device, BigZoo [bigzoo.com] and OneSuite [onesuite.com] are excellent. OneSuite is 2.9 cents per minute from the U.S. to France. BigZoo is 2.8 cents per minute.

I'd like to have a USB sound card so that I could isolate the audio from the electromagnetically noisy computer, however. Any ideas?

Open source version of Skype? (2, Informative)

Futurepower(R) (558542) | about 10 years ago | (#8795071)


Another thought: What we really need is an open source version of Skype.

Also, note that Skype works over heavily firewalled systems. It communicates over the browser port 80, if necessary. Skype is an excellent demonstration that firewalling does not necessarily create real security. ZoneAlarm's outgoing firewalling is good in this case, however.

Re:wow-- the first piece of pocket pc spyware? (4, Informative)

gl4ss (559668) | about 10 years ago | (#8793868)

not a troll at all.

skype's eula grants them permission to install 3rd party useless shit, and them being who they are you really think they wouldn't do it?

Re:wow-- the first piece of pocket pc spyware? (1)

Inuchance (559556) | about 10 years ago | (#8793980)

Oooh, so THAT explains why there's no Mac version.

Seriously, I haven't seen any spyware on my mac yet (Nor on my Windows machine actually, but I avoid IE and "free" software a lot). In fact, even DiVX pro, which is spyware for windows now, is only a 15-day trial on Mac. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, though, because it probably does...

Re:wow-- the first piece of pocket pc spyware? (1)

NiteHaqr (29663) | about 10 years ago | (#8793887)

Which is why I haven't used the non-pocket version, never mind this one.

My thoughts on a solution is to run my own password protected Teamspeak server (www.teamspeak.org) and then tell my family and friends to get the client software.

This will allow for group chats as well as one to one's via the rooms that can be set up.

Its IRC for Voice, despite its FPS origins.

And it doesn't cost any money....

Do it yourself (2, Informative)

homer_ca (144738) | about 10 years ago | (#8794132)

Might be more complex, but you can set up your own VoIP PBX with Asterisk [asterisk.org]. It's free software that runs on Linux and supports industry standard SIP protocol so you can connect all kinds of devices like hardware IP phones, analog telephone adapters, and IP softphones on PCs and PDAs.

Re:Do it yourself (1)

NiteHaqr (29663) | about 10 years ago | (#8794474)

Definately thinking of Asterix, but its a little "heavier" than Teamspeak - and I barely have the time to install and configure Teamspeak.

I need more hours in the day :)

Re:wow-- the first piece of pocket pc spyware? (4, Interesting)

tcdk (173945) | about 10 years ago | (#8793919)

Skype make quite a deal of the fact that it's doesn't contain spy or ad ware.

I've used it quite a bit to communicate from Denmark to Greenland and I'm very impressed by the quality. I get a 4-500ms ping to my brother who's only on a dial-up, yet the quality is flawless and the lag isn't to bad.

Now if only they would make a PalmOne version. I'm going buy a new PDA real-soon-now, but it's not going to be a MS based one. No way.

Read the EULA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#8794181)

you acknowledge that installation of the skype software will allow third parties who are not affiliated with skyper the ability to communicate with your computer ("outside parties"). you agree that skyper will not be liable for any damage, claim or loss of any kind whatsoever
skype.com/eula.html [skype.com]
no spyware egh ? Morpheus P2P also make a big deal of the fact that it's "doesn't contain spyware" but the reality is it's riddled with it, this is the internet, people lie. these people came up with Kazaa a product built on piracy filled with the worst spyware on the planet and you expect me to trust them?!

trust once lost is rairly gained again and that EULA just confirms their stereotype

Re:Read the EULA (4, Interesting)

IamTheRealMike (537420) | about 10 years ago | (#8794527)

I read that paragraph to say "other peoples computers will communicate with yours", which is, uh, kind of the point of a VoIP program. I think they are just being overly-paranoid with the legal stuff.

Re:wow-- the first piece of pocket pc spyware? (1)

NiteHaqr (29663) | about 10 years ago | (#8794189)

The fact that they had spyware in a previous product shows that they dont have any problems with spyware.

This makes them scum and once scum, always scum

Skype may be spyware free, but who wants to deal with a known spyware advocate.

Re:wow-- the first piece of pocket pc spyware? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#8794266)

Who cares what you buy? I guess as a slashdot monkey you have to say that you are not going to buy pocketpc. But then only other slashdot monkies really care about that.

Re:wow-- the first piece of pocket pc spyware? (1)

Stavr0 (35032) | about 10 years ago | (#8793946)

Good point. I'll wait for SkypeLITE -- or until someone has performed packet analysis on exactly WHAT Skyper is sending ...

(welcome to my friends list [slashdot.org], way2trivial)

How is this new? (4, Interesting)

Kenja (541830) | about 10 years ago | (#8793752)

How is this diferent then the VOIP software that came with my PocketPC?

Re:How is this new? (4, Informative)

EulerX07 (314098) | about 10 years ago | (#8793814)

Can someone behind a firewall/router call you using that VOIP software? The one reason I started using skype is that my other software didn't work from behind my d-ling router.

Re:How is this new? (1)

Kenja (541830) | about 10 years ago | (#8793913)

Dont realy know, I never used the stuff. I for one think that using a PDA to try and make phone calls is a rather poor idea. Given that I would need to use my cell phone to get a reliable internet connection anyways, whats the point?

Re:How is this new? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#8793927)

My d-ling is bigger than yours!

Re:How is this new? (0)

toolo (142169) | about 10 years ago | (#8793960)

Yes.. Skype works behind just about any configuration. I've tested it in multiple situations with my laptop.

Re:How is this new? (5, Informative)

sh0rtie (455432) | about 10 years ago | (#8793973)


how about its not free? , check out the EULA [skype.com]

You acknowledge that certain functions in the Skype Software are only available to paid subscribers after a free trial period of the Skype Software and Services (the "Free Trial Period") ends. After the Free Trial Period ends, you will be presented with the option to subscribe to the Subscription Services. If you do not wish to subscribe, you acknowledge that you can not access functions and services only available to paid subscribers. To subscribe to the Subscription Services you must agree to the terms and conditions of the Subscription Services.

then they effectivly go on to say you ok them from any spyware concerns but unknown 3rd parties will have access to your machine

(c) THE SKYPE SOFTWARE IS UTILIZED AND DISTRIBUTED BY THIRD PARTIES WHICH ARE UNRELATED TO SKYPER. YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT INSTALLATION OF THE SKYPE SOFTWARE WILL ALLOW THIRD PARTIES WHO ARE NOT AFFILIATED WITH SKYPER THE ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOUR COMPUTER ("OUTSIDE PARTIES"). YOU AGREE THAT SKYPER WILL NOT BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGE, CLAIM OR LOSS OF ANY KIND WHATSOEVER

why are we giving this time again ? next up on slashdot Gator/Claria bring you free VOIP ?

Re:How is this new? (1)

jreilly (163624) | about 10 years ago | (#8795096)

Well, third parties like other people using VoIP softare might want "to communicate with your computer", and you probably want them to.

Condi (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#8794042)

Mmm. Condi [yimg.com] could make my "PocketPC" very happy indeed...

Re:Condi (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#8794080)

i had no idea black people could look that ugly, then again she is only a token

Re:Condi (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#8794174)

Don't dis Condi!

She's a sweet girl [stanford.edu] and smart too! She's got a PhD.

I've got that picture on my cubicle wall.

Re:Condi (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#8794505)

OMG she is hottttttt, that sex change really worked !

Suddenly... (5, Interesting)

Knight Thrasher (766792) | about 10 years ago | (#8793773)

Suddenly, WiFi monitoring becomes incredibly worthwhile.

Re:Suddenly... (1)

K_Bomb (250478) | about 10 years ago | (#8793940)

yes, it does seem like it will become worthwhile, but at the same time, how are you supposed to know who someone is connected too if you only get a name like murphylee69@kazza???

Or will this Voice over IP over WiFi have a DNS phonebook that someone can use to look up the name of someone registered to the IP that gets sniffed out of the intercepted packets?

Re:Suddenly... (2, Insightful)

homer_ca (144738) | about 10 years ago | (#8794008)

Suddenly, WiFi monitoring becomes incredibly worthwhile

Well considering the pitiful range of most handheld Wifi cards, you'd do better to just walk up to the guy and eavesdrop on his conversation. It's not like people talking on cellphones in public are trying very hard to speak softly. More often they're obnoxiously loud like "look at me. I'm important because I'm discussing important business on my cellphone"

Not For a While... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#8794250)

...because the first 6 months' conversations will be mostly variations on this theme:

"Yeah, I'm calling you on my PocketPC! Yeah! VOIP! Yes!

What? 'Voice Over IP'.

What? 'Internet Protocol'.

Re:Suddenly... (1)

pestie (141370) | about 10 years ago | (#8794464)

I don't know about that. Back in the day I used to drive around with a handheld radio scanner listening to cordless phones. 99.8% of what I heard was pretty mundane and uninteresting. It got boring fast.

1st post (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#8793774)

teh frist p057

Old news. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#8793789)

Google News' main page SciTech section has been going off on this for the last 2 days. Perhaps we need Slashdot powered by Google News SciTech?

Sad news ... Stephen King dead at 56 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#8793791)


I just heard some sad news on talk radio - Horror/Sci Fi writer Stephen King was found dead in his Maine home this morning. There weren't any more details. I'm sure everyone in the Slashdot community will miss him - even if you didn't enjoy his work, there's no denying his contributions to popular culture. Truly an American icon.

I deny his contributions to popular culture. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#8793852)

Because popular culture isn't really culture at all.

Re:I deny his contributions to popular culture. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#8794243)

Of course it is.

Anything us humans do is culture. Even taking a dump.

Don't be an elitist.

Prank calls (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#8793795)

VoIP from a PDA? Does this mean I can make prank calls to the White House without them tracking me down...again?

Great! (-1, Offtopic)

Open_The_Box (620252) | about 10 years ago | (#8793830)

Ever been on holiday and had that nagging feeling that you've left the cooker on? Well, now you can phone up to check and it won't cost you a thing!

Amazing what runs through your head when you're this tired, eh?

free phone calls ? (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#8793851)


sounds like they need to watch their advertising standards, unless i can phone any telephone number in the world - for free , anytime
otherwise its just a long range walkie talkie

Re:free phone calls ? (2, Funny)

Brandybuck (704397) | about 10 years ago | (#8794137)

Ditto! Without a free-beer bridge to other "phone" systems, this isn't practical for anything but walkie-talkie like service. It's like my friend who brags that he saves so much money with his internet phone, yet he still has to run to the corner pay phone to call us to brag.

Xpro + Asterisk (3, Informative)

calle69 (646100) | about 10 years ago | (#8793860)

Why not use xten software? xpro for pocket pc connected directly to your asterisk server.

Just like MSN messenger (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#8793885)


way to go, before long they will have invented CB radio, score -1 for progress

Hopefully the FCC will stay away (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#8793886)

The FCC has been muttering about/threatening to regulate VoIP as telephony. This would allegedly have some "benefits" like 911 service working from VoIP and "reliability" but it seems like it is impossible to offer free calling service under FCC regulation, much like it is impossible to have a new drug approved by the FDA without tons of money behind it, even if the drug itself is non-commercial. Hopefully the regulators at the FCC will stay away from VoIP until it is so entrenched that it will be tough to stop, like P2P services.

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Free mobile porn [steamymobile.com]

Innovation comes from Microsoft (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#8793895)

Looks like, we see more and more coverage for windows platforms, because innovators are there. PocketPC is probably going to be the choice for the mobile workers. Linux already showed that they don't have a chance. Palm seems to be not sure what to do next, they want to cover high end, yet at the same time they don't want to drop low end devices.

It is clear that Microsoft will win once again by superior technology. I expect slashdot monkies to cry more, but this news should be remembered by those who cry. These news are exactly why Microsoft is successful, whereas others, despite stealing code (SCO case), are not able to compete with Microsoft.

Systems clashing? (3, Interesting)

Viceice (462967) | about 10 years ago | (#8793906)

The way this is going, it feels more and more that mobile data and communications is going to a very critical place.

On one end we have giant phone companies with large infrastructure assets trying to push tech like G3 and GPRS with a very high per minute/packet charge over cellular networks.

On the other hand, we have hotspots sprouting up all over the place with subscriptions going from nothing to a cup of coffee. While coverage is still spotty, its capabilities are blurring, with everything from voice to data being possible over IP.

Developments would be interesting to watch.

what fuss? (4, Interesting)

maxbang (598632) | about 10 years ago | (#8793912)

I don't understand the fuss about all of this VOIP stuff. I still can call only another VOIP user at this point, right? If that's the case, there are plenty of tools out there already that enable this, even on PocketPC, which an earlier post pointed out. I'd rather pay my $50 a month for my cell and call anyone I want from wherever I want. I do value the aspect of getting everyone to switch to VOIP, which is what I think skype (among others) are trying to do. Once that happens and that wimax stuff takes off, then we'll be much better off, methinks.

Re:what fuss? (1)

stratjakt (596332) | about 10 years ago | (#8794049)

All the various voip apps are incompatable too. You cant use skype to talk to someone with netmeeting or cucme or whatever else.

They're trivial apps, really. Open port - send sound - playback sound. I don't know why a geek site is all wound up about it.

Re:what fuss? (1)

maxbang (598632) | about 10 years ago | (#8794110)

Exactly - thanks for bringing that up. Standards, people! And open ones, at that.

I'm glad you asked and yes, I do excel at whining about problems without offering a solution.

Re:what fuss? (1)

Delirium Tremens (214596) | about 10 years ago | (#8794093)

The world does not stop at the edge of the 48 contiguous states. For people with contacts in Alaska, Hawai, Canada, Mexico and on other continents, Skype is a blessing.

Unless you know of a $50 month calling plan for unlimited international calls?

Re:what fuss? (2, Interesting)

maxbang (598632) | about 10 years ago | (#8794214)

Sadly, for me most of the world does indeed end at the US borders. I was born here, but most of my family's back in India. For me to use this product to contact them, they would have to purchase a computer and get online in a place where electricity is spotty at best. They can, however, get a relatively cheap cell phone and I can call them for about five bucks (sixty a year). I understand your point and see how this can be useful for wired countries, but for most of the rest of the world skype is moot.

Re:what fuss? (2, Informative)

xpl_the_myst (612106) | about 10 years ago | (#8794183)

there are plenty of tools out there already that enable this

Yeah, but these guys claim better voice quality. IP does not offer real-time guarantees theoretically, so it means that there is a lot of flexibility in trying to get the best implementation of Voice-over-IP. And from personal experience, Skype calls sound much better than say, Yahoo! Voice chat.

What beats me is their claim about being peer-to-peer? What's peer to peer in voice chat? Unless they find the best route using all these peers, which doesnt look that possible.

Re:what fuss? (1)

jhoffoss (73895) | about 10 years ago | (#8795173)

Peer to peer means the other end must use Skype software as well. So this really isn't VOIP in the normal sense, whereas with a Vonage line, I can call any phone number. And the lack of a real-time guarantee is more or less fully made up by the speed of home broadband now.

but (3, Interesting)

stratjakt (596332) | about 10 years ago | (#8793921)

Like Skype, PocketSkype can be used to make free, unlimited, and unmetered calls anywhere in the world.

Only to other running instances of skype though, or does it interface with POTS for free (doubt it)?

I mean, cool and all, but what's skype got that netmeeting/cucme/et al haven't had forever?

I just crapped my pants (1)

JVert (578547) | about 10 years ago | (#8793925)

I am running around the office screaming like a girl right now.

This is a good thing.

We use smartphones at our work and do alot of house calls where are clients would always have highspeed internet with avalable wireless but not always cell service.

Made my damn day.

It just better work!

Skype vs. I.M. with voice? (1)

Maarek_1 (740578) | about 10 years ago | (#8793936)

I tried this program and maybe I missed the point somewhere, but what is the big difference between this program and any other I.M. program that allows voice? It looks like it will only connect to other skype users, so what's the big? I would love to RTFA, but I am behind a proxy and can't get there (boo). Anyone want to illuminate this for me?

Re:Skype vs. I.M. with voice? (2, Informative)

subzerorz (769341) | about 10 years ago | (#8794184)

Skype is suppose to work with firewalls and proxy's. There is no need to reconfigure firewalls.

skype (3, Interesting)

greysky (136732) | about 10 years ago | (#8793939)

The company I work for uses skype for phonecalls (we all work from home). It's really handly, esp since we outsource some of the development work to India and Vietnam, and we can call the team leads over there at no cost.

Nice Slashvertisement. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#8793943)

How do I get front-page coverage for _my_ vaporish beta?

And running Debian! (-1, Offtopic)

tcopeland (32225) | about 10 years ago | (#8793953)

Very nice!
[tom@hal tom]$ curl -s --head http://www.skype.com/ | grep Server
Server: Apache/2.0.47 (Debian GNU/Linux) PHP/4.3.5 mod_ssl/2.0.47 OpenSSL/0.9.7b
[tom@hal tom]$

Re:And running Debian! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#8794408)

loser.

No local telephone interface? (1)

Professr3 (670356) | about 10 years ago | (#8793966)

Now, I know everyone loves P2P, but why is this something new? Yahoo messenger, AIM, and MSN all provide the same functionality when it comes to voice chat with other users. Skype is just a dedicated voice chat client, with a smaller user base than any of the other current chat clients. Now, if Skype made some users share their modems (yes, I hear some people still use those things), then it would be a true P2P interface to the local phone system, which I believe is the only thing that could give Skype a real chance. Any thoughts on this?

Re:No local telephone interface? (1)

otis wildflower (4889) | about 10 years ago | (#8794116)

Now, if Skype made some users share their modems (yes, I hear some people still use those things), then it would be a true P2P interface to the local phone system, which I believe is the only thing that could give Skype a real chance. Any thoughts on this?

Would a typical modem chipset be adequate for this? Assuming even a traditional Rockwell voicemodem.. I think you'd need to be running a FXO board [digium.com] or something

Re:No local telephone interface? (3, Interesting)

drewzhrodague (606182) | about 10 years ago | (#8794142)

Perhaps some of us with unlimited local calling, might allow VOIP users to call locally using their lines -- within specified limits, I would assume. This makes sense, but I can't imagine the telcos, or internet-providers would allow it. Certainly turns telecom on it's ear, so to speak.

Re:No local telephone interface? (1)

NotoriousQ (457789) | about 10 years ago | (#8794669)

The problem is bigger then that. I would not want to share my local phone, since I would be liable for anything illegal coming from that phone. Common carrier protection would not apply, since I am not a registered provider of anything.

P2P phones will not work due to that fact.

Pocket GPhone (4, Informative)

mknewman (557587) | about 10 years ago | (#8794041)

I've been using Pocket GPhone which comes on my Toshiba E805 for a few months now. You can check it out at http://www.vliusa.com/prof_personal/index.php The version I am using is 3.0 which is much, much better than the 1.0 version that comes on the E805. Works pretty well, with the typical pauses due to the network, and you do want to use it with a headset to prevent echoing, but the cool thing is they are hooked up to some sort of VoIP network and for $20 for 600 minutes you can make calls to virtually any phone. The rates for International calls are the best I have seen, anywhere. $0.05/min for most countries. You can use it for free for PDA-PDA (or even PC) calls for 60 days but then you have to pay them something to use their 'Buddy' service, but even then you can still make direct IP address based phone calls. No affiliation, just a relatively satisfied user. Marc

Can it call telephones? (1)

deviantonline (542095) | about 10 years ago | (#8794115)

Can this program call telephones or just people on the network?

Re:Can it call telephones? (1)

benzapp (464105) | about 10 years ago | (#8794841)

RTFA

they will be adding that ability as a pay for use feature, as well as stuff like voicemail. PC to PC calls will always remain free however.

skype pc ver = spyware? (1)

Syncalot (666263) | about 10 years ago | (#8794117)

Im reading alot while doing some searches on google that skype has spyware in it even tho if you go to their site they claim they dont.. im not talking pocket pc right now.. BUT i hear there are sleeping spyware dlls for skype on the pc.. ?? anyhow. on top of that. im about to launch a new sync system all your pocket pc owners if you want a beta hit us up at http://www.syncalot.com sorry for the shameless plug. :)

Funny.. just too funny... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#8794128)

I posted this story 3 hours ago and it got rejected.. same links and everything.. just too damn funny..

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Revolutionize the Voip industry (1)

subzerorz (769341) | about 10 years ago | (#8794153)

I think the next step is using skype with your current phone system and route calls. Maybe more to the PBX or Cisco's VoIP solution.

Read it here on Techtree.com! (4, Informative)

PhrozenF (205108) | about 10 years ago | (#8794187)

Read the entire story here on Techtree.com [techtree.com]. They have some interesting observation and comments too.

"However, there are various issues raised over "voice-over Wi-Fi." Firstly, there isn't enough Wi-Fi coverage yet to make it feasible for the executives who are the primary users of pocket PCs to own only that device. Most people who would want to use that service need a reliable network. Also, the sound quality offered is poor."

There are more free service providers listed here: (0)

isolvesystems (755713) | about 10 years ago | (#8794226)

There are more free service providers listed here: VoIP Service Provider [isolvesystems.com] http://www.isolvesystems.com/ [isolvesystems.com]

When Free doesn't mean Free (2, Insightful)

bogie (31020) | about 10 years ago | (#8794867)

Sorry but your page of "Free" providers is nothing more than a link to a bunch of commercial services which cost money. How can companies that charge $24 a month or charge by the minute be considered "Free service Providers"? If they were really Free than there would be no fees for the service.

You might as well have linked to a bunch of Cell phone plans and said "Free Long Distance Providers"....when you sign up for their $50 a month plan.

Re:When Free doesn't mean Free (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#8795015)

looks like a linkfarm to me

?I thank you for your time (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#8794235)

about bylaws any parting shot, and sold in the roots and gets von Both believed that c4se you want to while the project Name on the jar of

Subscriber drive? Sweeps week? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#8794237)

Why is /. flooding itself with trivial stories, is it supposed to make the site look better, more on top of things, to post a new story every 20 minutes? Hint: it doesnt.

Who fucking cares about some kazaa spyware voip app?

Re:Subscriber drive? Sweeps week? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#8794332)

There was a poll amongst the subscribers (including me) and one of the most popular requests was that the rate of front page stories should be increased.

I don't want to wait for hours for another story.

How this Skype new/better... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#8794308)

I saw a number of posts stating that many Instant Messaging clients (or NetMeeting) already offer VoIP "telephone" services.


Skype is better because:

a) the voice quality is by far better, especially with narrow-band connections (I'm speaking form experience)

b) Skype is able to get even through quite tightly configured firewalls, where NetMeeting, ICQ, MSN etc. have a number of problems that only can be solved by changing firewall settings.

Another VOIP app - WiFive (3, Informative)

zapp (201236) | about 10 years ago | (#8794323)

WiFive [wifive.net] is another free VOIP app for PocketPC. With WiFive you can connect to other WiFive users, Netmeeting, or if you have your own Gatekeeper (call server), you can make calls through the PSTN as well.

Suggest a phone (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#8794623)

Can anyone suggest a compatable phone? my main considerations are price & functionality. please give a little about your Personal experience using the recomended type...

Bah, WM2003 only (2, Funny)

cyberchondriac (456626) | about 10 years ago | (#8794772)

I'm "stuck" with my Toshiba e550g genio - I love the screen, and it's got a 400MHz XScale CPU, but there is no 2003 upgrade for it. PPC2002 is as far as it goes. I don't understand why, or what the difference there between it and a PocketPC that is upgradable to WM2003.
How hard would it be to put linux on this thing ?

Re:Bah, WM2003 only (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#8795087)

Toshiba doesn't want to pay for it's customers to have access to it.

It's the exact same situation with the Hitachi G1000 [hitachi.us] - A brilliant piece of hardware, that is stuck on Pocket PC 2002 because the hardware manufacturer doesn't want to update their drivers and pay for the cost of doing an update (users would even be happy to pay for the upgrade - they still don't want to do it).

Crying shame since the G1000 would be the absolute best Pocket PC on the market - if only it was running the latest OS.
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