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Gator Files for IPO to Raise $150 Million

michael posted more than 10 years ago | from the get-rich-quick dept.

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michalas writes "Wired reports on the IPO filing of adware/spyware kings Claria who have recently changed their name from Gator. Claria on Thursday filed for an initial public offering to raise $150 million to continue developing its 'behavioral marketing platform.' Claria had a net income of $35 million on revenues of $90 million in 2003. In addition, Claria said it has 43 million active users and 425 advertisers."

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When Pigs Fly... (4, Insightful)

nuclear305 (674185) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827842)

Yea, the only way I'd buy this stock is if my static ip address is blacklisted by their crapware so that it won't/can't install itself on my systems. Surely an incentive like that would entice people to buy into this IPO.

Of course, then they'll have their money for development except by that time every person with a computer will have purchased a share of stock to keep that crap off their system...in which case there would be no reason for them to continue development of the software, and really have no reason for them to continue to exist as a company.

Heck, where do I sign up for that?

I remember seeing a comment earlier about how Microsoft buys up companies and shuts them down or kills off the technology. Maybe MSFT could do us all a favor, buy them out, and shut them down? It's probably one of the few humane things to do...

Re:When Pigs Fly... (0, Troll)

Tantrum420 (312608) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827858)

I think that's called Extortion.

That's what mobsters do.

You're not a mobster, are you?

T

Re:When Pigs Fly... (2, Funny)

The Master Control P (655590) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827881)

If he is, we need to tell him about a coupla punks in Lindon, Utah who been talkin shit about the boss.

Re:When Pigs Fly... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8827890)

Don't forget, the NCAACP does it too.

"Hmm.... donate to us.... no? PROTEST!!!!"

It wouldn't really surprise me if Gator did it. It's not like they're installing other pieces of software on users' computer without asking, or anything like that.

Re:When Pigs Fly... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8827905)

Oops, typo - NAACP.

Re:When Pigs Fly... (5, Insightful)

Tantrum420 (312608) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827930)

Sure they ask... You do read all the text in every little box that pops up, don't ya?

The sad fact is that most people don't read _any_ text in any box that pops up on the screen. They just zero in on the "yes" "no" "cancel" boxes and randomly pick whichever one they think will make the pop-up go away the quickest.

I mean, they were _trying to read_ something. They can't be bothered to change their train of thought and deal with this new mumbo-jumbo that just appeared on their screen. ...And people wonder why email viruses / worms still prosper.

T

Re:When Pigs Fly... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8827995)

pop up boxes? Not directly. They install "free screensaver" and it gives them a EULA. The EULA is always more than 1 screen (has a scrollbar), with more legalese than a car loan.

Dirty practices? Yes. Sue-able? Probably not.

Re:When Pigs Fly... (2, Funny)

SuperMo0 (730560) | more than 10 years ago | (#8828035)

That's what the handy-dandy X button is for.

but even still (1)

GuruHal (229087) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827843)

Gator is spyware!

An IPO doesn't change the predatory marketing stategies of this company.

Didn't you read the article, or even the summary? (5, Funny)

Fubar411 (562908) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827852)

They are now Claria, that is so much less predatory than Gator. They were just misunderstood.

Re:but even still (1)

TheSpoom (715771) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827863)

Dude... CLARIA is spyware.

I curse them (1)

Alien54 (180860) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827938)

may their untrue words fester in their mouths, making their tongue to become black and swollen.

I could go on, but you get the idea

Re:but even still (1)

SuperMo0 (730560) | more than 10 years ago | (#8828047)

No, but those magical three letters will make lots of stock brokers swoon.

Implanted in every stock certificate (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8827845)

Is a special transmitter that sends back information on where you place it.

suck (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8827846)

suck

Revolutionary equation (2, Funny)

Nephroth (586753) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827847)

Cost of privacy = 150,000,000 / Claria's victims

Wow! (2, Funny)

Pig Hogger (10379) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827849)

How do you call people who have been swindled out of $150 million by criminals?

Suckers. Big-time suckers.

They only deserve to lose their money.

I don't think so (5, Insightful)

AlienRancher (734517) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827853)

" 43 million active users " Those are not users, they are called "victims"

Re:I don't think so (4, Funny)

MrNonchalant (767683) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827911)

"In addition, Claria said it has 43 million active users and 425 advertisers."

Don't forget the 71 million ticked off ex-users.

Re:I don't think so (4, Insightful)

FLEB (312391) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827929)

No, they still count those ones as "active users".

What, you thought that uninstaller actually did anything?

Re:I don't think so (2, Informative)

MrNonchalant (767683) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827965)

No, I used something slightly stronger [safer-networking.org] .

Re:I don't think so (1)

SuperMo0 (730560) | more than 10 years ago | (#8828062)

I prefer something a bit more powerful. [lavasoftusa.com]

Re:I don't think so (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8827935)

as a satisfied gator user I can say it is a tremendous money saver. Last night i was at a site to buy some dildos & gator automatically redirected me to a virtual super mall filled with bananas. Saved big bucks !

Claria's "users" (5, Insightful)

CoconutFoobar (747981) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827856)

In addition, Claria said it has 43 million active users and 425 advertisers.

I think 'infected computers' would be more likely. Whenever I tell people I can make those pop-ups stop by running Ad-aware, they are more than happy to remove themselves from this list of 'active users.'

Re:Claria's "users" (2, Interesting)

God! Awful 2 (631283) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827921)

I once found Gator installed on my Windows box, yet I never used Kazaa and I never consented to install it. I think they must have installed it via an IE exploit or something. So "infected computers" may not be just a euphamism.

I noticed my dad had it at one point too (although I think he may have installed Kazaa). Anyway, he now runs Ad Aware regularly, and he is absolutely paranoid about cookies (me, I just allow them, then batch delete then every week or two).

-a

Re:Claria's "users" (2, Informative)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827933)

I caught WinPup32... a pop up deployer on my system. I knew something was up when my popup blockers suddenly all got turned off.

I couldn't run AdAware because it hung on my IE cookies. I couldn't clean my IE cookies because a running process was using half of them. I had to drop to Safe Mode to clean out the cookies before AdAware could do its thing to clean up the mess.

I know I must have accidently clicked a "Yes" when I should have clicked a "No" somewhere in the last few days. The number of sites trying to push these things is way through the roof.

Re:Claria's "users" (2, Informative)

11223 (201561) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827998)

You should check out SpyBot [safer-networking.org] . It will clean up some things that AdAware can't.

Re:Claria's "users" (2, Informative)

Cruciform (42896) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827960)

Kazaa isn't the only app that installs Gator.
The adware supported DivX does as well, though they offer an adware free version on that site with not as many bells and whistles. There's a lot of other apps that do as well.

Reading the EULA used to be something people bypassed. Now it's a necessity.

Although I think hiding install info in the EULA is crap. The installer should show all applications being installed right from the beginning. Anything not implicitly listed at the install screen should be treated like the UK's theft of service laws for electricity when someone uses your machine without permission.

Re:Claria's "users" (1)

Izago909 (637084) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827978)

Silly, trusting, human user. Unchecking the "Install GAIN" button just makes it report how many users would not install it provided they have the choice...
That is, once it installs itself anyway.

Re:Claria's "users" (5, Informative)

harlows_monkeys (106428) | more than 10 years ago | (#8828036)

I think 'infected computers' would be more likely.

You'd think that (and so would I), but we'd be wrong. There are a huge number of users who like that thing, and complain if anti-spyware sofware removes it (I know because I work at an anti-spyware company, and Gator is one of the ones we have to tread lightly with, because so many users actually want the damned thing).

Re:Claria's "users" (5, Insightful)

jonwil (467024) | more than 10 years ago | (#8828050)

Anyone who would actually WANT spyware, crapware and malware installed on their box needs to have their head examined.

Active users? (5, Funny)

WwWonka (545303) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827857)

Claria said it has 43 million active users

...of those 43 million "active users" only three are actually aware that they are running Claria's "product".

43 million active users (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8827861)

Of which 7 know they are.

Re:43 million active users (3, Funny)

JoeBaldwin (727345) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827902)

And of those, only 1 is willing. It's that guy who likes getting spam who was on Slashdot a few weeks ago!

Modern-day Bounty Hunting (4, Funny)

Mard (614649) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827866)

What a coincidence, as I'm starting an IPO shortly, too! We're hoping to raise $150 million, which will be metered out as payment for the head of each Claira investor.

Re:Modern-day Bounty Hunting (1)

Orgazmus (761208) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827971)

Im in!

Dyslexia check... (1)

Faust7 (314817) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827867)

I misread that as:

Gates Files for IPO...

And wondered if my flux capacitor had self-activated.

Re:Dyslexia check... (1)

artifex2004 (766107) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827923)

misread that as:

Gates Files for IPO...


Even sadder, I thought it was Google, finally going ahead...

From an investment standpoint... (1)

SlimFastForYou (578183) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827868)

This crapware is likely glued into millions of computers, delivering ads after ads. If a company wants their ad to be seen (and clicked on by the computer illiterate), choosing GAIN (claria now?) is a smart decision.

I don't have much to invest, but I would probably invest in this company if I did. Like I care about what they do - I use Linux as my primary OS anyway.

Then again, the second they start developing crapware for Linux is the second I will not consider investing in them ;).

Re:From an investment standpoint... (4, Funny)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827951)

Calling the Gator software GAIN was just an attempt to try to associate themselves with a clean, fresh scent.

Re:From an investment standpoint... (4, Insightful)

telstar (236404) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827964)

Let's take that philosophy one step further ... so you'd support a company that sold a product that caused Cancer or AIDS as long as you didn't use that product? Nice to see you've got principles.

Re:From an investment standpoint... (1)

Izago909 (637084) | more than 10 years ago | (#8828015)

That's the American way. If it can turn a dollar without adversly affecting me , then sign me up.

Well... (5, Interesting)

QuasiCoLtd (727325) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827869)

The good thing about Gator going public is that their Financial Statements will tell us what advertisers are funding them. Makes for a nice boycott list.

Re:Well... (4, Informative)

nodwick (716348) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827936)

The good thing about Gator going public is that their Financial Statements will tell us what advertisers are funding them. Makes for a nice boycott list.
Actually the financials will only tell you how much they're making off the advertisers; they're not required to disclose customer identities. If the numbers turn out to be big, all it's going to do is encourage others to follow in their footteps by starting up more spyware companies.

Re:Well... (1)

Fallen_Knight (635373) | more than 10 years ago | (#8828056)

and wouldn't that saturate the infected computer market and drive people away from windows when they have 5+ diffrent spyware apps installed and get 5 popups for each webpage and such?

Re:Well... (5, Insightful)

Leebert (1694) | more than 10 years ago | (#8828040)

The good thing about Gator going public is that their Financial Statements will tell us what advertisers are funding them. Makes for a nice boycott list.

The ads popping up on desktops might give us a clue as to whom is paying for ads as well... :)

Re:Well... (1)

santos_douglas (633335) | more than 10 years ago | (#8828045)

That would be nice, I agree, but to my knowledge there is no requirement by the SEC that a public company disclose its clients. Only if one, or a small number of the clients represents an unusually large portion of revenue, then it would be considered sufficiently important that listing those out would be needed.

Active? (2, Interesting)

Wuffle (651894) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827870)

I wonder how many of their 40mil+ users actually know that they're an 'active' user?

Remember... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8827872)

When its hot outside and your hemmoroids are even hotter
just look to the cool relief of Preparation-H to get
you on your way.

Whoah (1)

NanoGator (522640) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827874)

"Gator Files for IPO to Raise $150 Million"

Oh man, no wonder I had 5,000 unread messages in my inbox. Glad I checked Slashdot before uninstallling Outlook.

I dislike adware... (0)

nycsubway (79012) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827877)

Investing in Claria would be like buying tickets to a 3 hour live show called "Spam!".

"Spam, spam, spam, spam, spam... wonderful spam!"

Trust Gator! (3, Funny)

Thaidog (235587) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827882)

Let the ease of Gator fill out your stock options for you!


Here's what they're saying about Gator stock:


"I love the way Gator takes my money and saves it for a rainey day!"


"Gator stock is so stable, I can't imagine investing with out it!"


"I love the way my income depends on Gator stock it make me feel secure!"

Will it run on linux? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8827886)

Gator/Claria..... is it good or is it wack?

gator sucks! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8827889)

i hate their damn popups too!

Cosmetics... (2, Insightful)

Faust7 (314817) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827893)

Claria who have recently changed their name from Gator.

Nice name. But, a frosted dog turd is not a wedding cake; it is still a frosted dog turd. I hope whatever stock they have drops like a brick.

IPO.... (1)

Rick Zeman (15628) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827894)

...hmm, wonder if they'll let Simson Garfinkel [slashdot.org] in on the ground floor. :-)

Re:IPO.... (1)

Rick Zeman (15628) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827916)

If I'd have previewed AND tested, I'd have put in the the correct URL. [slashdot.org]

425 Advertisers (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8827903)

Does anyone know where to get a list of the 425 advertisers, so I know which companies to avoid?

You can install Gator and figure it out yourself (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8828065)

And please, be accurate. Remember, this is for posterity.

Crime pays on Wall Street.... (3, Insightful)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827907)

Napster was a dead company walking from a legal perspective from day one. Nobody was that surprised when it got shutdown. However, it was able to float an IPO...

Sometimes, crime does pay. Even if Gator is made illegal by state laws, they'll still be functioning until such laws are enforced. Simply passing a law won't make them go away.

Anybody got a current quote for what SCOX is going for while we're at it?

And in other news... (1)

TheSpoom (715771) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827908)

Microsoft buys evil from Satan [bbspot.com] , says it will be an asset in the new economy.

Re:And in other news... (1)

ikkonoishi (674762) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827941)

Old news you insensitive clod.

It will become my goal in life... (1)

jgrumbles (515918) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827913)

...to hunt down every investor in Claria...and put a flaming bag of poop at their front door.

Getting the stock (5, Funny)

PurpleFloyd (149812) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827915)

Claria's officials said that instead of offering a "normal" IPO, they would instead try an "innovative bundling strategy." When an investor purchases one of several popular stocks or mutual funds, they will find that a small Claria stock certificate has been Superglued to the back of their purchased certificate. Any attempt to remove or separately sell the Claria stock will automatically destroy both certificates.

Also, Claria said their certificates represent "the latest in investor-tracking technology." Claria's executives plan to use the small audio monitoring devices embedded in each certificate to learn valuable insider information about upcoming shifts in the stock market. "This represents a new direction in the stock market. Never before have companies used their stock certificates as a way to gather valuable investor information," said Claria's CEO in a press release today extolling the virtues of Claria's new business venture.

Addressing privacy concerns, he also mentioned that, "Anyone buying this stock knows exactly what they're getting into. We fully disclose all information about our monitoring technologies to anyone who bothers to break into our company's vault and read the encrypted data therein. Anyone who claims they were misled about privacy simply hasn't done the proper espionage expected of both parties entering into any contract. After all, if you don't catch us spying on you, it's your fault."

Re:Getting the stock (1)

shfted! (600189) | more than 10 years ago | (#8828008)

Had I the points, I'd mod that interesting, not funny. I wouldn't put it past them.

Crap like this (0)

yaj (648643) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827917)


Maybe (hopefully!!) some
of the computers being used by
the Investment advisors and Lawyers
working on the IPO will all crap
out at critical times ...

because they're infucted with GATOR's
own shit

Gator (Claria) is:
crapware
shitware

and there is no way they could have
received "informed consent" for
the installation of their crap from
my 9 year old.

Let's play the name game... (4, Insightful)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827920)

The selection of the name "Claria" is a study how to avoid a mucked-up name... pick a made up word that has the seems to have the a tie to the words that represent what you wish you weren't so bad at.

People think you can't keep your promises? Call yourself Verizon or Verisign... "Vari-" meaning "truth"
You're stuck in the drug business trying to make people get high? Call yourself Altria... "alt-" meaning high
People confused about complex multiple rate plan options? Call yourself Cingular... kinda sounds like "singular" where there's only one option.
You're main product requires confusing people into aceptng it to work? Call yourself Claria... even though there's nothing clear to users about what they're getting themselves into.

Re:Let's play the name game... (2, Insightful)

SKPhoton (683703) | more than 10 years ago | (#8828022)

They're changing their name before they go public. What does this tell prospective investors? It tells them they have a bad image.

Take a look at Valujet. They had serveral crashes and then changed their name to Airtran. Why? Because people associate Valujet with poorly maintained planes that crash. What is Gator known for? Annoying intrusive spyware. Take a look at Claria's website and note how clean and, well, "clear" it is. Again, they're trying to change their image. I hope people who decide to invest in this company keep Gator in mind when looking at Claria. It's the same management running the new company.

On an unrelated note, check out Claria's home page [claria.com] when redirected from their original page [gatorcorporation.com] . It features a red bubble not seen from claria.com which 404's. Not a very professional sign.

43 million active users (4, Insightful)

NTmatter (589153) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827922)

Gator has 43 million users in the same way that 43 million people actively have the common cold. They have no control over how they got it, can't do anything about it, and don't notice that it's been gestating until they start sneezing bright flashy ads. It's that sort of misrepresentation that makes me want to work in the department of Statistics and Information Synthesis.

At any rate, how can someone "use" Gator/Claria? Their "users" are simply presented with ads and such. Are you a "user" of the ads you see on Television? No. You are an audience member, and a very passive one at that. Amazing. Simply amazing.

Re:43 million active users (5, Informative)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827987)

Gator's programs are not pure spyware because they at least provide some level of functionality. The first Gator offering was a personal-info remembering "wallet" that'd nicely fill in web forms similar to what the Google Toolbar's AutoFill feature offers.

Another one of their schemes offers to download a program that will automatically sync your system time, which is useful to most people who notice that consumer PCs are usually pathetic at keeping a system time. However, I personally use the adware-free Automachron [oneguycoding.com] which provides the same useful function.

So, they're really a bait-and-switch operation. They actively market utilities that people want, and are rather trivial to make.... and then tag-on their adware code for the ride. Better options for all of their offerings exist, but the public often doesn't know where to go.

Re:43 million active users (1)

Kyouryuu (685884) | more than 10 years ago | (#8828057)

And this is why Claria deserves to be shut down and their assets gutted by the FCC. It's nothing more than legitimate, corporate virus writing.

i interviewed with Gator a few months ago (4, Informative)

motiv8x (658048) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827928)

Despite what the company does, after interviewing with them, I felt like it would be a good solid company to work for. They had a great dot-com atmosphere, used open source technology, and paid well - my position was for Perl programmer. And they even allowed you to work from home. I didn't have the XML::Parser experience they were looking for, so I didn't get the job. One thing they revealed to me was that they did actually track what you were searching in Google. This part I didn't like. If they can watch you on Google, they can capture data from any form you fill out - although they claimed Google was the only form they captured data from.

They should be in jail (4, Insightful)

Billly Gates (198444) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827932)

Not to sound extreme here but lots of spyware can cause a system to act just like its infected with virii and cause it be unfunctional.

I have seen it first hand.

My gf's pc and at work where I assist students in a university computer lab.

My gf's computer use to take 20 minutes to boot and would reboot every 30 minutes or so and was highly unresponsive. Especially IE.

McAfee anti virus showed no viruses? I then ran ad-aware and it found 600 objects and tons and tons of spyware.

After that it was fine.

Second, spyware installs backdoors( tell me that does not sound like a worm)so hackers can see your keystrokes and get things like credit card numbers, etc. God forbid anyone doing the taxes with these worms aka spyware ridden systems. Hackers can easily do identity theft.

So I ask slashdotters now. Why is gatorsoft legal? If this thing was called A.mydoom or something the FBI would hound them.

THis is pure fraud, it steals computer cycles, causes break-ins, etc. Its a worm in my book. It may not copy itself to other systems but it sure acts like one. Hmmm I bet if gator soft did email itself over the address book then it could get even MORE customers. lol

This and Divx need to be brought down.

Re:They should be in jail (1)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8828012)

AntiVirus software writers need to realize that not every malware program these days self replicates, but their anti-virus program-identifying scans could very easily pick up adware programs simply by throwing them into the definition files.

Why don't they do that?

Re:They should be in jail (4, Insightful)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 10 years ago | (#8828048)

how exactly is spyware different from viruses(the modern day ones, that the stupid user clicks on to install)?

it comes in without telling what it is, it stays stealthy and twists what the user is doing. on top of that it's doing it for financial gain for somebody!

every virus scanner software maker should add spyware to the takedown list.

Gator for the masses IS helpful (1)

Yo Grark (465041) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827934)

Oh I'm so gonna get toasted for this one.

I hate Gator, I use AIRoboform and never looked back , BUT there are tools that people find handy.

"Calendar, Clock Sync, password manager i mean, if these tools don't help, tell me what do?"

That's the general statement I get from collegues and "acquaintences" not in the know.

They are annoying, but I think they HAVE stopped being sneaky with their 3rd party stuff and haven't seen anything in a LONG time that "crept" it's way onto a system without a user not removing checkmarks.

I just might buy the stock in a pump and dump to allow this company to pay me back for the hours it takes me to remove their stuff from PC's. ...maybe...

Yo Grark

43 million users? (5, Funny)

wheatwilliams (605974) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827939)

That would be like Hepatitis C Inc., boasting about their 500 million customers. This reminds me of Mel Brook's radio skit about the LMNOP Advertising Agency: "We just got the Cholesterol account. We're trying to move Cholesterol into the American heart. It's going to be tough, but we'll win. Advertising is a lot stronger than life."

stock holders (2, Insightful)

SKPhoton (683703) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827940)

If someone buys enough shares of Gator, or Claria as they're now calling themselves, could they force the company to shut down? Sure, that would hurt your wallet but it sure would make a lot of people happy.

BUSH KNEW! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8827946)

He's going down. He's going to be impeached. Why are we in Iraq fighting a POPULAR insurrection? Reuters just reported 17 marines were ambushed and killed, their lives unceremoniously snuffed out. They were fighting for Iraqis? No! They were fighting for Bush's political future. Fucking hell I miss Oswald.

When someone is too well known.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8827948)

It's changing name because Gator became too well know with his (in)famous spyware ?

Next: Microsft change is name to avoid anti-trust lawsuit.....

OT: ALL WINDOWS FTP CLIENTS SUCK SHIT (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8827953)

I am fucken fed up with shitty ftp clients for windows. enven the GPL ones SUCK LIKE TOTAL SHIT. ESP. FILEZILA The fucken program crashes every fucken time you go into a directory that has mixed language directory names FUCKEN PIECE OF SHIT

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCKFU CKFUCKFU CKC U

FUCK YOU

Re:OT: ALL WINDOWS FTP CLIENTS SUCK SHIT (0, Offtopic)

Qrlx (258924) | more than 10 years ago | (#8828014)

ftp from the command line works just fine in windows.

Re:OT: ALL WINDOWS FTP CLIENTS SUCK SHIT (0)

motiv8x (658048) | more than 10 years ago | (#8828020)

uh...use Linux and ssh :-) windows is a piece of shit, one-user operating system.

Kill this IPO (4, Informative)

Maskirovka (255712) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827954)

Claria...Clar-Ia...sounds like a disease doesn't it?

For someone with more time on their hands than me:
1)Start some media fear mongering about a "Claria Virus".
2)Include instructions for removing said virus.
3)Feel good about what you have done to help society.

Virus?? (4, Insightful)

moosesocks (264553) | more than 10 years ago | (#8827977)

In my opinion, after spending 2 hours removing spyware from a friend's computer, Gator's products are no more than viruses.

Which leads me to my point.... why doesn't Symantec (Norton) classify Gator as a virus. It has all the hallmarks of a virus (hell... Blaster was LESS destructive. It just rebooted your machine), and no legitimate use. How isn't it a virus?? Just because the company's legit at the moment, does it really make it okay?

Can anyone answer me?

Re:Virus?? (3, Insightful)

Billly Gates (198444) | more than 10 years ago | (#8828031)

Because its by a company who can sue them.

In Soviet russia (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8828004)

Users Install gator!

Re:In Soviet russia (-1, Offtopic)

motiv8x (658048) | more than 10 years ago | (#8828055)

Yes, they have to check the acceptance box to install it, at least on the one app I used that had gator, that's how it worked. Afaik, they don't install gator without explicitly getting permission from the user. As a linux user, I really don't care, to me, the more virus's and crap like gator that there are for windows, the more likely people are to switch to Linux :-)

users or victims? (3, Insightful)

eagl (86459) | more than 10 years ago | (#8828005)

43 million active users... How many are unwilling or unaware victims? I've never met anyone who had gator on their computer know what it was or want it installed. That doesn't sound like being an "active user" to me, more like virtual date-rape victims than anything else.

Just another reason to give the Internet to the UN (2, Interesting)

Saeed al-Sahaf (665390) | more than 10 years ago | (#8828009)

Yeah. Gator. It's Spam. But from the standpoint of an investor, it's probably a great investment. Remember, Wall Street is about money not social good or bad. This is part of a more complex and disturbing trend of a total conversion of the Internet from a tool of the masses for usful communication, to a commercial product. And, it's an example of how western nations, especially the United States, think that they "own" the internet. This is why I support the idea of taking the Internet away from ICANN, and placing it under UN juristiction.

ever have kile bile? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8828024)

I go with some friends tonight to see the new movie The
Gospel of John in our local cinemaplex. Halfway
through the movie I'm about to cork off and decide to liven
things up a little in the theater.

Unknown to my friends, I had eaten several bowls of cereal
and milk earlier and I'm basically lactose intolerant.
What this boils down to is that the cereal and milk ferment
in my gut and give me really raunchy gas about 2 hours
after I down them.

Well, the gas attack happens on schedule and I proceed to
start stinking up the theater with SBDs! Beside me is an
oriental couple and their little girl is sitting in the
seat right next to me. She was getting the brunt of the
noxious fumes, and after 30 minutes of getting gassed she
was in tears and sobbing out loud to her mother that "I
WANNA GO HOOOOOME MOMMY".

It was all I could do to keep from busting out laughing.

Of course, you could hear other people sitting in front of
and behind me complain about the stench too. Isn't life
grand?

SCO showed the way (3, Insightful)

jwd630 (469028) | more than 10 years ago | (#8828026)

Pump up the stock price based on nice big numbers ("43 million active users and 425 advertisers") that lead the unwary/uninformed to assume that this company has specialized capabilities that can be the beginning of the next Internet boom; the executives and investment backers incrementally cash out while stories about the sure thing are dribbled to the media to keep the stock price up. Groklaw [groklaw.net] discusses the SCO strategy in greater detail.

Active != Willing (2, Funny)

qw(name) (718245) | more than 10 years ago | (#8828029)

Claria said it has 43 million active users and 425 advertisers.
I wonder how many of the "active users" actually know they're using it.

I hope no one buys their stock.

informativ_e fagorzfagorz (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8828041)

I won't bore 7ou filed countersuit, fucking numbe%rs,

Only fags use gator... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8828058)

I just wanted to drop in tonight to tell you all to suck it. Thank you, that is all.

This is just revolting (1)

DaveCBio (659840) | more than 10 years ago | (#8828059)

Man, I can't believe what people will fund.

Count me out (1)

mindless4210 (768563) | more than 10 years ago | (#8828060)

There's no way in hell I'd support that company. I can't even count how many times I've taken that crap off of my family's computers.

Crickey! (5, Funny)

Scrameustache (459504) | more than 10 years ago | (#8828061)


Man, someone needs to go Steve Irwin on that gator's ass...

Claria has a very suitable name. (5, Funny)

t_allardyce (48447) | more than 10 years ago | (#8828063)

Claria take their name from Chlamydia, a common sexually transmitted infection that many people do not know they carry. Someone in the advertising/PR department must have had a bit of fun with that one ;)

Let's take a look at the truth. (3, Funny)

pair-a-noyd (594371) | more than 10 years ago | (#8828064)

Claria said it has 43 million active users and 425 advertisers

Er, no. Try again. How about:
Claria said it has 43 million active victims and 425 parasites
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