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The Geek Shall Inherit the Earth

CmdrTaco posted more than 10 years ago | from the and-jennifer-garner-shall-be-our-queen dept.

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erick99 writes "With so many self-proclaimed geeks here at Slashdot, this particular article concerning geeks seems fitting. The article covers the gamut from science fiction to comic books to the "mainstreaming of geeks." The author seems to conclude the it is not such a good idea that the geek may inherit the earth. But, hey, what does he know. "

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Geek Fun (3, Funny)

cluckshot (658931) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847010)

Well if the Geeks Inheirit the Earth the place should really byte

Re:Geek Fun (1)

DaGoaty (566530) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847036)

Geeks inherit the earth == Bill's worst nightmare??

Re:Geek Fun (2, Interesting)

mirko (198274) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847145)

Why should this be a nightmare ?
The story submitter refers to self-proclaimed Geek.
So, if you give people shit and tell them "Geeks find this cool", then they might consider loving this will make them better "Geeks".
I don't really like this concept as it basically promotes some kind of insulting globalization of thought.
So, well, it's cool to have some good movie from time to time but being a Geek means "ratherly looking for cleverer solution whenever any kind of problem is faced".
It's not especially more Geeky not to use Windows than it is making it work optimally to suit one's very needs.
BTW, a friend of mine decided to leave the computing industry to become a plumber in a very demanding district, he's no more afraid of job market fluctuations and might actually make good money having an interesting manual job, so do not look the World to be a Geek's World, look forward to becoming a Geek in a Geek-demanding world...

Re:Geek Fun (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8847075)

And we now know why it's a bad idea for geeks to inherit the earth. Not only will stupid humor like this increase in abundance, but everybody else will mod it funny. :-p ;-)

Re:Geek Fun (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8847077)

If geeks inherit the earth, civilization will end. True geeks never get laid. =(

Re:Geek Fun (1)

saden1 (581102) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847184)

Well of course we'll inherit the earth...we'll all have our <a href="http://zapatopi.net/afdb.html">Aluminum Foil Deflector Beanie</a> on when the brain pickers come.

Re:Geek Fun (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8847202)

All businesses would prosper with the "new economy businessmodel" applied to every industry.

1: Make free car.
2: ?
3: Profit!

Re:Geek Fun (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8847458)

Geeks inheriting the earth:

class Earth {
Byte place;
Earth() { place = null; }
}

class Geek extends Earth { // Geek inherits Earth
Geek() { place = new Byte(1); } //place now byte
}

first "Fuck You" post (-1)

Adolf Hitroll (562418) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847014)

HOWTO: Be an American

America, eh folks? It's a pretty screwed up place. Unfortunately, but not indefinitely, the USA's weapons of mass destruction make it the most powerful country in the world (militarily). As a result, it helps to be aware of American society and fit into it, and our quick 8-step guide should have you on the path to burger-munching enlightenment.

1 - Buy yourself a gun
To become a fully-fledged Yank, you'll need to get a weapon. Americans think that having more killing machines magically makes their country safer, and it helps them to walk around saying "I'll put a cap in your ass". Even though the concept of "no guns = no gun-related crimes" is alien to the average Yank, it'll give you a false sense of security in this country with the highest crime rates in the developed world.

2 - Put on at least 25 stone
Skinny? Medium? Chubby? That won't cut it in the good ol' US of A. Because America has the highest obesty levels on the planet, you'll need to get those rolls of flab built up. Eating 18 waffles with Maple syrup for breakfast (and visiting Burger King five times in a day) is all natural when much of the world is suffering massive poverty. Get fat and fit in.

3 - Learn the lingo
We've talked about issues affecting society, but on a personal level you'll need more knowledge (or ignorance as it may be) to fit in. First, forget proper English. Confuse "your" with "you're". Say "must of" instead of "must have". Whenever anything interesting occurs, say "shucks" repeatedly. Instead of clever spontaneity or witty insults, call people "asswipes". It's funny!

4 - Throw away all maps, history books etc.
To really feel a part of American society, you must lose all knowledge of the world. Forget where Poland is. Scrap your knowledge of the lengthy Chinese history. Make cretinous remarks like "India? Is that in Africa?". Because ALL that matters is America, and it doesn't matter how pathetic you look to educated people the world over.

5 - Become totally irrational and nonsensical
Spout on about the Constitution, and then make drastic changes to it. Talk about "freedom of speech" and watch TV programmes about the Ku Klux Klan. Rant on about market freedom, and sit back as companies run riot and destroy the economy with their anti-competitive practices. Essentially, act idiotic at all times.

6 - Sue everyone you ever meet
The USA doesn't produce many decent quality products, so the society is crumbling into a litigation-happy joke. With so many jobs going overseas to talented workers, your only option left is to start legal proceedings. About anything. Someone step on your toe? Get some hotshot downtown lawyer to sue their ass!

7 - Get a "shrink"
Americans have a hard time dealing with their own problems in a mature manner, and prefer to spend hundreds of dollars sitting in front of someone and whinging. However trivial your problems may be, blast them out like a baby!

8 - Watch abysmal TV
Forget educational programmes and incisive documentaries. Your ideal night in is with your gun, six cheeseburgers and a Friends box set. Watch as some over-paid talentless "actor" enters the scene, and whoop and scream hysterically as he delivers some ridiculously poor wisecrack.

So there you have it! Those 8 steps should have you killing innocent people, piling on pounds and acting like a moron in no time. America awaits you, brave hero! Just get out before it collapses in disarray.

Re:first "Fuck You" post (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8847059)


Dear Mr. Hitroll,

"whinging" in #7 should be spelled "whining".

Loser.

Re:first "Fuck You" post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8847123)

Idiot boy:

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=whinging [reference.com]

You stupid twat.

Re:first "Fuck You" post (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8847328)

Fuck off you Eurotrash shithead. The French are a bunch of fucking cowards and rely on Brits to save their asses.

Asshat, I've personally served in Iraq and saved yer sorry ass from Saddam Hussein.

Now stfu and go back in your hole.

Oh, btw, I'm British, not American. I just ate French assclowns like you.

You're a coward who doesn't give a shit about freedom, justice, or human rights. And yet you wonder why we refer to you French as surrender monkeys.

Fuck off and die, asswipe.

Re:first "Fuck You" post (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8847371)

As a fellow Briton, when was Saddam ever a threat to us?

Although the French are indeed assclowns.

Of course the geeks shouldn't inherit the earth. (2, Funny)

maxwell demon (590494) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847021)

Otherwise they'd have to wait until the current owners die.

Re:Of course the geeks shouldn't inherit the earth (1)

Orgazmus (761208) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847111)

We geeks can make that happend with a couple of moonbased "lasers", can't we?

Re:Of course the geeks shouldn't inherit the earth (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8847128)

I think "In Soviet Russia, funny isn't THIS" is more accurate.

Revenge of the Nerds... (5, Insightful)

garcia (6573) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847024)

Matrix, comics, and computer, sheesh! It's Revenge of the Nerds that brought geekdom to its pinnacle!

Everyone now realizes the difference between nerds and geeks. Geeks are the cool nerds!

Now, if we could only get the hot women...

Re:Revenge of the Nerds... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8847357)

Now, if we could only get the hot women...
It's really a tradeoff. Better looking women are usually worse in bed.

teh WeEN shall inhareit (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8847025)

teh Buttehoal!!!

LOL DUDES....ME AM Brazil!!!!1!~1`!ONE!2

May cut down on war (3, Insightful)

Moblaster (521614) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847037)

Geeks tend to get along with their own better than warrior-king types.

Re:May cut down on war (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8847089)

aside from the occassional:

lightning bolt! lightning bolt! lightning bolt!

Re:May cut down on war (0, Flamebait)

The Gline (173269) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847092)

Yes, as the immensely civilized tone of Linux zealots vs. everyone else testifies. "RTFM!!! LAm0RZ!!!"

Ah, well, better that than anthrax in the mail, I guess...

Re:May cut down on war (1)

Joe Tie. (567096) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847150)

Yes, as the immensely civilized tone of Linux zealots vs. everyone else testifies. "RTFM!!! LAm0RZ!!!"

Has anyone actually ever told you to "RTFM!!!"?

Re:May cut down on war (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8847169)

Yes. Repeatedly. Have you ever posted on that message board, ooh, what's it called, Slash-something?

War would change (4, Funny)

millahtime (710421) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847112)

" Geeks tend to get along with their own better than warrior-king types."

There would still be wars. THey would not be between countries but between Windows, Linux, BSD and Mac overloards. Windows would be like the US. Big, bulky and some part of it is always screwed up. BSD and Mac would have a treaty and tag team the others.

Re:May cut down on war (2, Insightful)

garcia (6573) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847160)

unfortunately power corrupts all men. Geeks would not be any different.

Re:May cut down on war (4, Funny)

AllUsernamesAreGone (688381) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847210)

Actually, it depends where you put the electrodes and whether its mains or batteries. sometimes it just kills you outright.

The meek geek (5, Funny)

Ckwop Johnson (696069) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847041)

"The internet often breeds individuation and solipsism" Yes.. let's blame the internet for every social evil! Si.

Re:The meek geek (2, Insightful)

nomadic (141991) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847265)

"The internet often breeds individuation and solipsism" Yes.. let's blame the internet for every social evil! Si.

No, they were blaming the internet for two very specific social evils. Why would you extrapolate EVERY social evil from that?

Re:The meek geek (1)

WoodenRobot (726910) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847367)

Because I was a lazy journalist? "Bah, just throw some cliches together - it'll write itself."

Individualism is evil? (4, Insightful)

Chemisor (97276) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847445)

It is rather sad to hear that being an individual is now considered evil.

Internet often breeds individuation and solipsism (4, Funny)

bluethundr (562578) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847045)

"Rather than being integrated into society by being forced to take people as they come, the internet allows you to preselect whom you choose to fraternise with, based upon whether or not they share your specific interests."

That's why I browse at -1. :D

Re:Internet often breeds individuation and solipsi (4, Insightful)

squaretorus (459130) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847355)

"Rather than being integrated into society by being forced to take people as they come, the internet allows you to preselect whom you choose to fraternise with, based upon whether or not they share your specific interests."

This is one of the most annoying things to me, about some of my old friends. I grew up in a relatively small community, school of about 1000 students, near a city of a quarter of a million.

The VAST majority of my old schoolmates still hang out together and shag each other and bitch about each other and steal each others partners and generally stay in the same old pond.

They put up with the same shit from the same shits for year after year because they dont want to get out there and find people with common interests.

Geeks, nerdy boys and the like are oft criticised for being anti-social / a-social but from my experience are WAY more adventurous in building social circles which, while relativly small are created from a very wide geographical pool.

Long live the geek for spreading what genes they CAN exchange with further flung chicks that your average small town wanker obsessed with tribalism and football.

Ok - rant over - Im off for a coffee!

obl quote (2, Interesting)

xxdinkxx (560434) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847048)

If geek becomes mainstream, then what becomes the new geek?

" you sold us out , you sold us out! ... the cheat tell hem you sold us out, you sold us out (mumble in the bg) you sould us out.."
--Strongbad in strong bad goes to jail, homestarrunner.com

Somebody get a dictionary? (1, Funny)

johnthorensen (539527) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847050)

In short, there has never been a better time to be an anorak - a word that now has affectionate, rather than pejorative, connotations. The word 'geek' has also lost its stigma, having been promoted from a noun to verb, as in to 'geek out'.

Call me crazy, but I thought an 'anorak' was a puffy coat? Maybe this is some obtuse slang that I don't know about...

-JT

Re:Somebody get a dictionary? (5, Informative)

r4bb1t (663244) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847100)

Courtesy of UrbanDictionary.com:

anorak
1. Cagoul; or a hooded zip-up jacket.
2. Trainspotters.
3. IT people in general, computer geeks.

Beware of couples wearing matching anoraks.
Often spotted at LAN parties.

I'm still trying to figure out whether or not being compared to a warm, puffy coat is a good thing.

Re:Somebody get a dictionary? (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8847204)

When we were kids in Britain, the lame kids who let their Mums dress them would always come to school kitted out in a parka, or anorak, with a fun-fur hood. Every single one of them. So an "anorak" is a dweeb, or a dork.

origin of 'anorak' as slang (4, Informative)

sczimme (603413) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847335)


As I understand it:

there is a hobby called 'trainspotting' where people hang about at railway stations, noting the comings and goings of trains (e.g. the 4723 to Wembley left the station at 0914).

since these trainspotters are often outside in inclement weather, they wear large puffy winter coats

being geeks and having no fashion sense, they choose the same sort of large puffy coats that your mother made you wear when you were a kid. (Think of the big coat George Costanza wore in that episode of 'Seinfeld' if that helps.)

in the UK, the puffy coat is called an anorak

the garment became synonymous with the sad trainspotting git who wears it.

British slang is fun. :-)

Re:Somebody get a dictionary? (1)

gamgee5273 (410326) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847121)

Well, Webster's Ninth New Collegiate says anorak is a "parka" and nothing else...

BUT search search Google... interesting results.

Re:Somebody get a dictionary? (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8847187)

In the 1980s an anorak was used as slang in the UK for a certain type of person who would wear an anorak whether or not they were indoors or outdoors.

They tended to be male (99%), individualistic and not try to wear fashionable or nice clothes. This was due to poverty and also a greater interest in "anoraki" hobbies, like computing, chess, games like DnD, trainspotting.

Part of the reason for the popularity of the anorak was they were quite warm, and if you put one on in the morning, you could wear one all day, they covered you up, whatever the weather so you did not have to concern yourself with earthly matters like what you looked like.

Re:Somebody get a dictionary? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8847237)

FYI - the spiked-online website is based in the UK: "Signet House, 49-51 Farringdon Road, London, EC1M 3JP"

Re:Somebody get a dictionary? (1)

the_mad_poster (640772) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847205)

I had anorak armor once, and then some Level 89 asswipe named =*DRAZIW*= with two *Last Blades* killed me and stole it. Bastard.

Those old door games were great. I used to register a bunch of accounts to play Usurper, then transferred all my money to one keeper account, committed suicide on all the now broke ones, recreated a character in each, and repeated. An effective way to start with around 200k gold (or more if you're the patient type).

Re:Somebody get a dictionary? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8847325)

A.no.rak noun. [Esk. (Greenland) anoraq] a heavy jacket with a hood.

In the UK this form of coat was worn by all children in the 1970s, but worn now only by socially disfunctional adults who still wear the trousers they wore to school (despite the fact they never covered their ankles even back when they were 14 years old).

Remember! (4, Funny)

Wingchild (212447) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847056)

The original longer-form of the quote is,

"The meek shall inherit what's left of the Earth after we're done with it." :)

Re:Remember! (1)

Marko DeBeeste (761376) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847085)

Or is it "The geek shall inherit the Earth, the rest of us are going to the stars?"

Re:Remember! (4, Funny)

BiggerIsBetter (682164) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847274)

That's somewhat fitting (and disconcerting) coming from a Slashdotter with .mil address.

Re:Remember! (1)

Nephilium (684559) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847373)

I always thought that the quote was: "Maybe Jesus was right when he said that the meek shall inherit the earth -- but they inherit very small plots, about six feet by three." --Robert A. Heinlein, as Lazarus Long

Stop the mudpeople! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8847078)

Stop the invasion of the mudpeople [bbc.co.uk] !

Join us! [combat18.org]

Let us save the White Race together!

Stop the racist morons (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8847314)

Join us! [combat18.org]

Maybe there is a chance to use the /. effect for a good cause here!

I urge everybody here to go to their page and /. them for good. Make the racist slackers pay for the bandwidth!

Ahead of the Curve (2, Funny)

cyranoVR (518628) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847080)

Oh yeah? Well, *I* was a geek before it was cool to be a geek! Ermm...

Re:Ahead of the Curve (1)

the_mad_poster (640772) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847407)

First computer I ever took apart had a 1.2 MHz processor. And, that makes ME a young buck!

All these newcomers are just teeny-bopping posers.

This guy is a jacket? (1, Funny)

bc90021 (43730) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847082)

From the article:

"As something of an anorak/geek/nerd myself, I must confess to deriving pleasure from our move to the mainstream."

According to this at [reference.com] , an anorak is a hooded jacket. Why would he call himself that? Weird. ;)

The Earth inherits the Geek (1)

jigyasubalak (308473) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847091)

...in good old Soviet Russia

Yeah! (2, Insightful)

jawtheshark (198669) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847093)

He says that the internet is a big factor in the movement of geekness becoming mainstream... Let's kick all those wanna-be nerds from the internet. Let them go back to playing sports or reading books, or whatever they did before.

I want my pre-september-that-never-ended internet back! ;-)

scary... (5, Interesting)

spangineer (764167) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847103)

That's pretty scary considering Merriam Webster's first definition of "geek":

"a carnival performer often billed as a wild man whose act usually includes biting the head off a live chicken or snake"
"Geek" [m-w.com]

Re:scary... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8847175)

"a carnival performer often billed as a wild man whose act usually includes biting the head off a live chicken or snake"

... and your point is ?

Re:scary... (0)

AllUsernamesAreGone (688381) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847394)

Actually, live snake heads are quite tastey. Live chicken heads tend to make me sneeze though.

notion of a mainstream geek is an oxymoron (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8847106)

As geek contains within in a notion of separateness and awkwardsness, the whole notion of a mainstream geek is an oxymoron.

I suspect the author was just out to get a bit of cash or notorioty.

Obligatory... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8847110)

I for one welcome our new chicken-head-biting [catb.org] overlords!

Missed it? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8847116)

Have you seen our world leaders lately?

Bit of an odd article (2, Insightful)

Joe Tie. (567096) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847130)

Both society as a whole, and science fiction/fantasy, would benefit if the latter were put back in its proper place - that is, as a satisfying diversion, rather than as life's raison d'être.

Coming from a guy with not one, but two planned sci-fi conventions coming up. I think he's lost any rights to be casting the first stone at someone because they liked lord of the rings.

Re:Bit of an odd article (2, Insightful)

El Torico (732160) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847221)

Sounds as though the author of the article has a love/hate relationship with himself as well as a pessimistic view of the world in general.

This shows just how upbeat he isn't,

No, the broader reason why mainstream society has become more disposed to immerse itself in fantasy is because of a general cultural stagnation that exists today. At a time when we feel less certain of our ability to impact on the world around us, we tend to retreat into fantasy worlds instead. One consequence of this is that we are increasingly more comfortable contemplating the ins and outs of life in Tolkien's Middle-Earth, than we are confronting the ins and outs of life on Earth proper. As Hollywood serves up ever more lavish fantasy spectacles for us to marvel at, the society that lies outside of the cinema and the comic shop stagnates.

I disagree that the world is stagnating; it is just that the pace of improvement is glacially slow. Such is history.

It's not what geeks do (4, Insightful)

Hekatchu (684465) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847133)

No, I don't think so, geekyness is a subculture ... and if the mainstream comes towards us, we shall step aside. Not to rule the world, but to change it!

Cute Girl + Dorky Outfit != Geek (4, Funny)

lotsofno (733224) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847134)

The mainstreaming of my beloved geek subculture depresses me.

"When did it become cool to be a dork? You know that shifty-acting guy or libertine-looking gal who's always all, "I'm captain punk-rock-opolis," crying "culture-stealer" whenever the opportunity makes itself available? That's me, except with geeks."

"Am I not justified though? Am I to idly watch the tyrants streamline my identity for mass consumption; our folklore exploited and assimilated by wannabe societies? Eccentricaly-dressed girls using their cuteness to conceal their embarassing ignorance, actually thinking that Wolverine's mutant powers are those metal claw thingies? People who haven't paid their dues; who couldn't tell you the difference between a D6 and DOS? Guys who've never carried out torrid--though imaginary--love affairs with Ensign McKnight, trading knowing smirks and grins across the Ten Forward lounge?"

The standards for geek initiation have been lowered too far. Too many times have I seen my dork friends embrace a cute girl as their own, just because she has a mild familiarity with Magic: The Gathering [inthegray.com] cards.

Re:Cute Girl + Dorky Outfit != Geek (4, Funny)

spellraiser (764337) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847188)

Too many times have I seen my dork friends embrace a cute girl as their own, just because she has a mild familiarity with Magic: The Gathering cards.

Hell, I'd embrace a cute girl any day, Magic: The Gathering or no Magic: The Gathering!

Funny yes, but sad too. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8847385)

Why does it depress you? Are you so downtrodden that you are only comfortable being shunned? God forbid somebody might actually be interested in the same stuff as you for 'impure' reasons.

Here's a clue: if the fact that someone is an airhead bothers you, then don't associate with them! It has nothing to do with mainstream culture usurping your niche or any other such solipsistic nonsense.

Re:Cute Girl + Dorky Outfit != Geek (1)

Dausha (546002) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847466)

When did it become cool to be a dork?

I know it is not your question, but to answer it: it became cool to be a dork/geek when Bill Gates topped the Forbes 500 list and married a hot chick. He proved any dork/geek could do it.

I never noticed (1)

ParadoxicalPostulate (729766) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847137)


People still look at me funny when I tell them I've read LOTR thrice.

Or when I carry around a book by Heinlein, or maybe Clarke, or Gibson.

Even though its becoming more accepted, I still wouldn't call it mainstream.

Re:I never noticed (4, Funny)

Chewie (24912) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847189)

I would guess that people still look at you funny when you say "thrice". I understand that it's a lot more efficient than saying "three times", but it's a touch archaic.

Although, I have been trying to bring back the expression "Ods bodkins!" so I don't have much room to talk.

Re:I never noticed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8847215)

If reading good books by famous authors is not mainstream, then what is?

Re:I never noticed (1)

kent_eh (543303) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847391)

...Or reading Asimov on my PDA

Ummm... one big problem... (1, Funny)

MosesJones (55544) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847138)


If Geeks inherit the earth....

Won't that mean there is only one generation then extinction ? Or a Geeks going to have to breed ?

I've set my sights higher.. (3, Funny)

Byzandula (83077) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847147)

Why should we settle for earth when there are many other planets waiting for geek colonization!

I'm aiming for Mars myself...

- Byzandula

No, you got that wrong .... (2, Funny)

kbahey (102895) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847151)

It is the Greek who will inherit the Earth.

(Obligatory Brian quote)

Re:No, you got that wrong .... (1)

pedaws (534387) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847262)

Anyone catch his name? (Oblig. reply)

What did I miss? (1)

Underholdning (758194) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847167)

"As something of an anorak/geek/nerd myself."
Since when has anorak become synonymous with geek? This is the first time I've seen it.

Re:What did I miss? (1)

nomadic (141991) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847206)

Then you're not a real geek.

I for one... (4, Funny)

Viceice (462967) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847190)

I for one welcome our Slashdot reading overlords..

Sorry, I just had to.

YES!!! (2, Funny)

RealityMogul (663835) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847195)

Move over giant ants!! Now everyone can welcome ME as their new overlord!!!!

Does the article contradict itself? (2, Funny)

Chuns (723979) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847208)

A socially inept geek has a published story? Infantile, escapist geeks are mainstream?

Are we sure this isn't a bitter jock turned gym teacher who is upset that the guy he bullied in high school is Bill Gates?

Oh great what about me? (2, Funny)

SteveXE (641833) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847222)

What happens to us semi geeks? Im no under brain like some of you guys here, I can hold my own but god help me what will i do!?! Oh god i dont beleive in god! For i am screwed!

Re:Oh great what about me? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8847468)

You'll be spared from Siberia but you'll have to wait tables for no tips.

Not a good idea? (5, Funny)

Mateito (746185) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847236)

The author seems to conclude the it is not such a good idea that the geek may inherit the earth.

This guy obviously didn't get the universal truth as portrayed in "Revenge of the Nerds".. that inside every geek is an automaton of burning passion powering a pile-driving love machine.

So why the fuck shouldn't we rule the earth?

Pile-driving love machine? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8847250)

inside every geek is an automaton of burning passion powering a pile-driving love machine.

Uh. No.

another symptom of the tech revival? (1)

peter303 (12292) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847239)

Lets see, first we have lots of tech IPOs on the schedule. Second we have an overheated stock market, especially in tech. So way not a comeback for geek worship?

it's a terrible idea (4, Insightful)

wobblie (191824) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847244)

This "geek" crap has long gotten on my nerves. The only stereotype even more BORING than a DnD playing, emasculated, Buffy the Vampire Slayer watching, socially crippled dweeb is the "business/entrepenur" dork.

Want proof? Bloggers. Give even a cursory look at the personal "blogs" out there and you realize none of these people have even a semblance of a life.

hikikomori - anyone know someone who has this? (1)

JavaLord (680960) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847267)

It's mentioned in the article, I know a guy who's like this. It's like a Geek disease or something. He used to come hang out but now he NEVER leaves his bedroom. He's been like that for the past 3-4 years. Last year it got even worse, he doesn't even socialize on IRC anymore! Anyone else know someone like that?

geek? did anyone catch his name? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8847276)

Oh, it's the meek! Isn't that nice? I'm glad they're getting somethin' cause they have a hell of a time.

What Jesus plainly fails to appreciate is that it's the meek who are the PROBLEM!

OH....I though it said Greek shall.... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8847301)

and I thought NOW my wife will finally have teh bumsex!!!

Curse you salashdot!!

Trendy (5, Interesting)

Triv (181010) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847302)

See, here in NYC, geekdom has become...trendy. It's now cool to know tons about comic books, to be an IP wizard, to be able to pull odd things from teh intarweb. If you're a mac geek, you're even better off.

The problem with this is the fucking hipsters of the geek wannabe persuasion. They manage to effectively mimic geek behavior but are much smoother (excuse me - smoover), much nicer looking and infinitely better at getting laid. So now all the look-alike "hey look, I can setup iTunes networking. I'm awesome and lovable and single! Bed me!" are stealing the small portion of women endowed by god with a geek-love gene. JUST when we're acceptable to the outside world, we get screwed by the trendiest people on EARTH. AGAIN.

But the worst part of it is, you turn into, like, that guy. You know, that guy who always grumbles about being ahead of the trend. The "I was listening to them when they were indie and they suck now" guy and everyone thinks YOU'RE the poser.

Please. Take me back to obscurity. At least I was getting laid when I was on the fringe.

Triv

Deconstructing the article (DTFA) (1)

Alomex (148003) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847342)

What's the matter with this self-loathing geek?

Society will be poorer if it goes geek? Talk to billg buddy.

It's not like geekdom will replace Da Vinci, Michelangelo or Picasso. Geek culture will take over the WWF, soap operas and budget-busting hollywood films most of which end up losing money because nobody likes them in the first place. Society won't be poorer or richer if we replace the rock with aragorn. gimme a break.

Now wipe your nose and go finish your homework.

The Weak Shall Eat the Dirt. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8847358)

In other words.

Anonymous Howard

The author has it backwards. (4, Interesting)

Jaywalk (94910) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847387)

The mainstreaming of geekdom means the mainstreaming of the geeks as well. If the only person who shares your interests is on the other side of the world, of course you are going to spend more time on your computer communicating with that one other person. But if there is someone you can talk to next door, you're more likely to walk over for a beer.

Computer geeks are now in the same position automobile geeks were when the auto was coming into its own. Automobiles used to be considered an oddity at best and a nuisance at worst. Few owned them and the majority didn't understand the attraction for the noisy smelly things. Horses required little maintenance and performed the same functions better. Motoring enthusiasts formed clubs in order to be with others who understood their peculiar hobby.

Fast forward to today. A knowledgeable mechanic is virtually guaranteed an audience when discussing his profession. Everyone has a car and everyone has a story or a problem for which a mechanic's expertise provides a welcome addition to the conversation. Nobody thinks of auto mechanics as isolated geeks.

It makes all the difference in the world when the others in a party are interested in hearing what you have to say, whether it's the details of automatic transmissions, the pros and cons of DSL versus broadband or the differences between the movie and the comic.

The geek will never become mainstream (0)

Ape_the_Dog (749745) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847396)

Sure, Tolkien may have become mainstream. But how many people know how often the word lembas is mentioned in each book? How many people would be able to quote gollem, right down to how many s'es are in each preciousss. How many people would be able to sustain an argument about how elves look like for hours? Only the geek can do all those things. They can take away our culture, but they can never steal our lameness!

iChick (1)

Decameron81 (628548) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847402)

iChick told me she's tall, blonde with blue eyes, works as a top model and wouldn't mind dating ugly guys.

So mine is not escapism, I'm investing my time on a possible (hot and sexy) future.

Diego

prejudices prejudices (2, Insightful)

SlashDread (38969) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847406)

- Geeks are science fiction fans
- Geeks are fantasy fans
- Geeks are socially inapt
- Geeks are a consistent subculture
- Intarwebby will make you less social

None of these are true -whatsoever-.

c'mon guys, dont let some markedroids push you over in a stubborn prejudice label.

"/Dread"

Author displays his American provincialism (2, Insightful)

dubwise666 (709701) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847431)

Outside of a fairly hermetic subculture, comic books used to be dismissed as children's fare.

That is really only true in the US... comics/graphic novels are considered to be art just like literature and the cinema in most of the rest of the world; they are particularly popular and respected in Japan and France. The attitude of many Americans towards comics is rather similar to what people first thought of movies, that they are not "Serious Art." Of course most of the people who think that know rather little about art at all! and tend to overemphasize high/low art and genre distinctions... as exemplified by the author of this article.

Essentially the ease with which the author moves from interest in science fiction/fantasy to antisocial behavior marks him a trafficker in stereotypes and a painfully unironic one at that.

misuse of "geek" in conclusion (1)

Jagaast (448187) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847439)

While I agree with much of what the author says, I find his deliberately careless use of the term "geek" annoying. I agree that escapism is a growing problem today, with the internet, and to a lesser extent science-fiction and fantasy, contributing to it.

However, extending this conclusion to mean that "geeks" inheriting the earth (a doubtful proposition to start with) shall be to its detriment is simply irresponsible use of rethoric. The whole reason for why the term "geek" has become much more legitimate and non-insulting is because "geeks" exert a growing amount of influence in this world, and engage with its modern problems rather better than many "non-geeky" types. And while it can be argued that the influence they exert isn't in this world, but in a virtual one, the distinction between the two is rapidly evaporating.

So while the author presents a well-argued view of escapism being a growing concern today, his conclusion is an unnecessarily emotional departure from the more level-headed presentation of the rest of the piece.

Definition of Geek (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8847442)

From Dictionary.com
A carnival performer whose show consists of bizarre acts, such as biting the head off a live chicken.

Damn, havn't done that in a while.

What a crock. (4, Insightful)

tsg (262138) | more than 10 years ago | (#8847465)

Obsession with anything is bad if it interferes with your life. Sci-Fi/Fantasy is no different.

But the criticism of science fiction and fantasy fans - that we are infantile and escapist people, and socially inept to boot - sadly has a little more truth to it.

Yeah, and people who are obsessed with Survivor, American Idol or any of a dozen soap operas are less escapist then fantasy fans.

As long as science fiction and fantasy fandom remained a fairly marginal subculture, then while certain fans may have pursued their passion to an unhealthy degree, the existence of the subculture was harmless. But when society as a whole starts to become obsessed with the otherworldly, then society as a whole threatens to go hikikomori - to become more interested in whiling away its time dreaming, than in addressing the real problems that confront it.

When society as a whole becomes obessed with anything, it becomes a problem. The existence of a few people obsessed with the genre does not imply that society as a whole will become obesessed with it if if becomes popular. Yes, there are some very obsessive fantasy fans, but the majority are quite capable of functioning in a normal society. And to suppose that all society will become obsessive fantasy fans because a few are is ridiculous.

Nothing quite like taking an exaggerated stereotype and applying it to everyone.
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