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Mandrakelinux 10 Official Released

timothy posted more than 10 years ago | from the and-soon-for-non-members dept.

Mandriva 322

boklm writes "Two months after the Mandrakelinux 10.0 Community release, the enhanced and polished 'Mandrakelinux 10.0 Official release' has been announced. Download ISOs are available today for Club members and packs are also avaible on MandrakeStore." As Shipud puts it, "USB2 support... vive 2.6.3 !!"

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fp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8863499)

fp

Mandrake (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8863500)

Mandrake. Whats its all about? Is it good or is it whack?

Re:Mandrake (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8863596)

Can't you tell by the version? I'm not aware of any distribution which has a Release > 4 that's not whack =)

?wtf (-1, Offtopic)

punkrider (176796) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863501)

wtf just happend /. got /.'d ?

i was getting 500 and 503 errs

Re:?wtf (-1, Offtopic)

darth_MALL (657218) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863508)

sorry..I spilled my coffee on /.

Re:?wtf (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8863526)

goddamned amatuers.

Never test on the release server! (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8863539)

Scared me silly.

I had to turn on CNN to make sure the North Koreans hadn't nuked Des Moines!

Re:?wtf (1, Redundant)

Archangel Michael (180766) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863675)

Mandrake 10 announce, just after slashdot goes off line. I guess that they were updating the system.

I was feeling a bit french there for a minute (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8863502)

I all but gave up trying to access slashdot.

Internal server error (-1, Offtopic)

Foolhardy (664051) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863505)

Did anyone else have trouble getting to slashdot.org for the last 15 minutes or so?

Yes. (-1, Offtopic)

mnemonic_ (164550) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863517)

Yes.

Re:Internal server error (1, Funny)

qewl (671495) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863518)

I wonder if they were testing Mandrake Linux 10?

Re:Internal server error (0, Offtopic)

Welsh Dwarf (743630) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863521)

I did, must've been /.ed

Re:Internal server error (-1, Offtopic)

TheJavaGuy (725547) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863523)

Did anyone else have trouble getting to slashdot.org for the last 15 minutes or so?

I also was not able to access slashdot

Slashdot was slashdotted

Re:Internal server error (5, Funny)

Tuxinatorium (463682) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863529)

Congratulations, you're the 500th person to say that. YOU WIN A FREE PONY.

Re:Internal server error (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8863549)

I have to know, did you actually count?

Re:Internal server error (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8863693)

Yes.

Re:Internal server error (3, Funny)

JCCyC (179760) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863531)

Maybe it linked to itself? Major Ouroboros moment there!

I thought it was armageddon (5, Funny)

zogger (617870) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863561)

..heh heh, no lie, slashdot goes down, then my gnomedesktop froze, then I lost my landline connection, within like a minute or so! Man, I whipped on the shortwave to see if I should duck and cover or what!

ISO (2, Insightful)

110010001000 (697113) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863507)

I need Mandrake ISO's but I don't want to pay to be in the club. Where can I get some?

Re:ISO (4, Informative)

el-spectre (668104) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863516)

Wait a couple of weeks and they'll be available to non-club folks.

Re:ISO (-1, Troll)

110010001000 (697113) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863536)

I have to wait for community written software in the form of an ISO because I am poor? Isn't that creating false scarcity? Information wants to be "free". Charge for support, not our software.

Re:ISO (1)

Saeger (456549) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863564)

Shh! You'll upset the hypocrites.

--

Re:ISO (1)

reaper20 (23396) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863565)

Then go snag the sources and build it yourself.

Re:ISO (0, Troll)

110010001000 (697113) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863593)

I don't want the do it myself. I want the ISO's of the free software that they have. Information and software wants to be free. Freely available. How is this keeping with the "community" spirit?

Re:ISO (1, Insightful)

el-spectre (668104) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863616)

Hmm.

I want a hot japanese woman to appear in my office RIGHT NOW!

DAMNIT, I'm SERIOUS!

Fuck, guess "I Want" doesn't work...

Re:ISO (1)

DAldredge (2353) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863704)

All you have to do is call the right number and that will happen. It will cost you though.

Re:ISO (1)

el-spectre (668104) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863731)

Good point. Will it help if I post "Hot Women want to be free!" a few times? :)

Re:ISO (-1)

CmdrTaco (troll) (578383) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863634)

WILL YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP, YOU FUCKING BROKEN RECORD? HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU HAVE TO BLATHER ABOUT "INFORMATION WANTS TO BE FREE". God you are a fucking idiot.

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Re:ISO (5, Insightful)

tkittel (619119) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863572)

> I have to wait for community written software in
> the form of an ISO because I am poor? Isn't that
> creating false scarcity? Information wants to be
> "free". Charge for support, not our software.

The "support" in this case is that mandrake took the time to put all the bits and pieces together.

And not to be rude, but please dont make it sound like having to wait a few weeks for a cutting edge distribution is a great injustice. You still get it for FREE, even though mandrake put millions into it.

Re:ISO (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8863717)

You still get it for FREE, even though mandrake put millions into it.

Millions? Millions of what? Mandrake just came out of bankruptcy not that long ago. Where'd you come up with "millions"?

I'm not saying they don't put a lot into it, but millions is a bit "fuzzy" all by itself, and needs to be qualified as well as accountable.

Millions? Of what? Lines of SCO code?

I'm kidding! Don't go wasting your mod points 'cause a joke ticked you off. Go mod somebody else up for being insightful or interesting instead.

Re:ISO (4, Insightful)

el-spectre (668104) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863590)

Information doesn't wanna be anthropomorphized... that fucking quote was lame when it was invented, and it's lame now.

And they are largely defraying distribution costs by doing it this way.

And they are doing more than just shipping community software. Mandrake adds a decent amount of customization to linux. Don't like it? then go do a Linux From Scratch install or something.

And they are not depriving you of anything, just saying wait a bit, or pay a price to cut in line.

Yes, Virginia, there are costs associated with the world, and No, "But I don't like that" isn't a valid reason to ignore those costs.

Re:ISO (-1, Flamebait)

110010001000 (697113) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863631)

But they are creating artifical scarcity by limiting the release of the ISO's to a few who paid money. They are depriving me of access to the information (ISO's) because I do not want to join the "club" and pay a fee.. How is this OK? Information wants to be free!

Re:ISO (-1)

CmdrTaco (troll) (578383) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863657)

I SAID SHUT THE FUCK UP! See you at the next OSS conference because I am going to find you and beat some free imformation into your fucking face.

Re:ISO (2, Insightful)

el-spectre (668104) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863661)

It's OK because they need to cover their production costs and bandwidth.

There's no causation between slogans and logic, friend... ya need a better reason than that (or am I just troll feeding?)

Re:ISO (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8863723)

Information wants to cost $699.

Re:ISO (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8863641)

You have the rights to the source if you buy the binaries, read and understand the GPL. That does not mean that a distributor is under obligation to give you free binaries. Of course, since the source is available to end users, that makes it likely that someone will distribute their own binaries if the original distributor doesn't.

Re:ISO (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8863547)

or an hour or so for the torrent.

Am I missing something? (-1, Troll)

Phosphor3k (542747) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863665)

Can't you download it here [mandrakelinux.com] ? Or is this a different version?

The torrent being here [mandrakesoft.com] .

Re:Am I missing something? (1)

el-spectre (668104) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863681)

The "Community" is more like an advance release candidate. It was patched, but fixed, and became the Official.

Re:Am I missing something? (1)

el-spectre (668104) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863710)

er, BUG fixed, sorry.

Re:Am I missing something? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8863688)

That's not the Official version you moron.

Re:Am I missing something? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8863695)

10.0 COMMUNITY != 10.0 OFFICIAL
fucking stupid moderators

Re:ISO (1)

strike2867 (658030) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863533)

Torrents will be out soon. IRC a couple hours later.

Re:ISO (1)

donbrock (705779) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863624)

Just go to the Mandrake website http://www.mandrakelinux.com/ and click on download. It looks like anyone can go right to one of the download mirrors. However, as of right now, the only mirrors are European servers.

Re:ISO (2, Informative)

Proud like a god (656928) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863676)

Mandrakelinux 10.0 Community ISO images for i586 and higher

Not the Official edition I'm afraid.

Re:ISO (1)

MatthewB79 (47875) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863677)

That's a list of mirrors for Mandrake 10.0 Community, which is a month-old beta. Right now, Mandrake 10.0 Official is only available from Mandrake to MandrakeClub members via club-only mirrors.

Damn Microsoft Ads! (2, Funny)

jmulvey (233344) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863509)

I knew those damn Microsoft advertisements would crash Slashdot sooner or later!

Re:Damn Microsoft Ads! (0)

sTalking_Goat (670565) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863734)

lol! did /. get metioned and some other site and suffered the /. effect...

I guess its true. There's always a bigger fish.

God Lord, did I just quote "The Phantom Menace" ?

Damn! (3, Funny)

McLoud (92118) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863510)

But I don't ever terminated the beta version download! Damn 2GB download, now I need to restart it again :/

Re:Damn! (2, Insightful)

wolrahnaes (632574) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863557)

I'm on dialup and just finished 10.0 Community three days ago....I feel your pain man...

I think I'll wait for the retail version and show a little $upport for my favorite distro.

Great, and I just got a new CD-ROM drive (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8863511)

This release is just in time. My new drive needs some breaking!

Re:Great, and I just got a new CD-ROM drive (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8863537)

In that case, I suggest you use a hammer instead of mandrake 10

Pardon my ignorance, (3, Insightful)

rdsmith4 (767227) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863513)

but what is the difference between Community and Official?

And did slashdot go offline in the past half hour? Doubtless someone has mentioned it already...

Re:Pardon my ignorance, (1)

jm92956n (758515) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863560)

The "community" is composed of people who have paid Mandrake for the privledge. Thus, for a monetary payment, one is allowed early access.

Special treatment for those that have paid. Sort of like a frat, only without the kegs and girls and whatnot.

Re:Pardon my ignorance, (5, Informative)

Proud like a god (656928) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863609)

You're talking about the Club. The Community distro release was to allow mass testing of a usually final RC quality build, so that an even better updated one could be released a few months later, aka Offical.

Re:Pardon my ignorance, (3, Funny)

uloveus (515324) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863568)

yeah it was down

Re:Pardon my ignorance, (4, Informative)

Anders (395) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863584)

but what is the difference between Community and Official?

The Official version is basically the Community version plus a few months worth of updates. Thus, the Official version should have the major errors removed and be Very Stable.

Plus, the Official version is what you get if you want a boxed version.

Re:Pardon my ignorance, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8863669)

Can someone verify that "Official" does not destroy your Windows partition?

Re:Pardon my ignorance, (3, Funny)

johncheng (308479) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863591)

Mandrake recently created a new category for their release called Community. The Community version has been well teste, and is supposely "good enough", but not "good enough" for production use. While this Official version is well... "better".

The more I try to explain this the more confused I get. I think they should just differentiate their products like so:

Mandrake DANGER-MIGHT-BLOWUP-EVERYTHING
Mandrake IT-WORKS-ON-MY-MACHINE
Mandrake GOOD-ENOUGH-TO-AVOID-LAWSUITS

Difference between Community and Official. (3, Informative)

David Hume (200499) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863637)


Pardon my ignorance, but what is the difference between Community and Official?


According to the Mandrake Linux Users Club Page [mandrakelinux.com] , among other things members of the club are entitled to:


  • Silver members can download the first three ISO images from the latest PowerPack along with its numerous proprietary drivers and plugins.

  • Full access to commercial applications which are normally only available in retail packs. Over 130 high-quality packages built & tested for Mandrake Linux can be installed with a single mouse click. Applications include easy-to-use web browser plugins, Java, powerful commercial applications and demo versions, software drivers, and lots more


(emphasis in original). Thus it appears that at least one of the differences between Communty and Official is that the latter contains proprietary software and drivers that need not and cannot be distributed pursuant to the GPL or other Open Source license.

Pardon my French but (3, Interesting)

JCCyC (179760) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863514)

Will they offer delayed ISOs for the masses? Preinstalled Nvidia drivers, Flash etc. is a nice thing, and I can wait.

Re:Pardon my French but (1)

AhBeeDoi (686955) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863733)

Will they offer delayed ISOs for the masses? Preinstalled Nvidia drivers, Flash etc. is a nice thing, and I can wait.

Waiting may be the best strategy if you remember all the problems with the release of 9.2.

Just Installed (5, Informative)

foshizzlemynizzle (655903) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863515)

Installation was a breeze. So far USB2 support is not bad, my USB2 HD is working as it should. Thats all I have to report, but I like this version much better than 9 so far.

Kinks worked out? (3, Funny)

teamhasnoi (554944) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863519)

My pal went back to 9.1, because 10.0 was 'flaky', as he put it.

Mandrake is just trying to trick people into thinking that it's OS X. It'll never work! Mandrake doesn't come with white spots!

Re:Kinks worked out? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8863558)

Perhaps. Working out kinks isn't always simple. I had an ex leave me once because of my kinks. Something about not being able to share time with the other women or something to that effect.

Oh, guess that explains the last 15 minutes (5, Funny)

Neil Blender (555885) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863520)

The slashdot crew was installing the new Mandrake on all their servers at once.

Re:Oh, guess that explains the last 15 minutes (1)

dragus (766023) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863540)

Will they provide a review?

Re:Oh, guess that explains the last 15 minutes (2, Funny)

strike2867 (658030) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863559)

You didnt refresh in the last 15 minutes?

MandrakeClub users aren't too happy (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8863525)

The MandrakeClub forums have been burning up with flames regarding the Mandrake mirrors being totally fucked, and the download "mirrors" actually being links to bittorrents. I'm wondering if that will hurt thier business so soon after getting out of bankruptcy.

Re:MandrakeClub users aren't too happy (4, Interesting)

MatthewB79 (47875) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863610)

As a MandrakeClub user, you have to send an email specifically requesting access to an FTP mirror. I still haven't received a response to my request after over 2 weeks. My biggest qualm is that the MandrakeClub signup page does not make it obvious that club members are mainly relegated to using bittorrent for "members-only" features.

AHAH (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8863541)

Slashdot editors are modding down comments on the downtime.

To Malda: All sites go down. It's not a huge deal. Stop being a mod nazi k thx bye.

Re:AHAH (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8863592)

I'm sure glad *you* got modded down.

linux-2.6.5 is the latest, 2.6.4 but not long ago (4, Interesting)

after (669640) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863542)

But why couldnt they squeeze in 2.6.4 at the time they were getting ready to relese the ISOs'? I used to be a Mandrake user, but I got sick of the fact that once you install, there are no easely automated ways to update yoyr software. I use Gentoo [gentoo.org] , primarily because I think portage (I also use FreeBSD ;)) is the best thing since sliced bread. I also have the 2.6.5 [kernel.org] kernel thanks to portage, and USB 2 support is better then ever.

I really think Mandrake, LLC (or what is it?) should concider using a different package/software manager in future releases. This [gentoo.org] gentoo forums post even describes how to install the superb portage on other distros.

Anyway, someone feel free to correct me or mod me down.

Re:linux-2.6.5 is the latest, 2.6.4 but not long a (2, Informative)

GreyWolf3000 (468618) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863599)

There is an automated way to update your kernel..cp /boot/oldconfig-2.6.3 /usr/src/linux-2.4.5 && make mrproper etc.

The problem comes when you rely on the package manager to take care of stuff you ought to take care of yourself (my biggest beef with Gentoo).

yer really clueless arent you? sheesh... (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8863635)

uhm, are you just stupid or what?

try mandrake update. its easy. painless. simple. a monkey could do it.

if yer a little more clueful, try urpmi.

mandrake has all the package managers that redhat has, and all the package managers that gentoo has, and all the package managers that debian has too.
and some more.

get a clue. try it. its easy.

and to those people who say its not stable, wtf are you smoking? can i get some?

mandrake 10 "just works"...

Re:linux-2.6.5 is the latest, 2.6.4 but not long a (1)

proxima (165692) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863638)

I used to be a Mandrake user, but I got sick of the fact that once you install, there are no easely automated ways to update yoyr software.

You mean like "MandrakeUpdate"? Or from the command-line:

urpmi.update -a
urpmi --auto --auto-select

Just be sure to specify a good update source first, because the initial selection (at least in 9.X) are pretty bogged down. The updates are mirrored all over the place though.

Re:linux-2.6.5 is the latest, 2.6.4 but not long a (1)

mz2 (770412) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863671)

Ahemm... Ever heard of urpmi? I myself have not a long background with Mandrake, but for the latest month that I've been using Mandrake 10, I've found urpmi to be rather satisfactory (although the gui to it isn't quite on the level synaptic is for apt). It handles dependencies, repositories are easy to setup and it does its thing. Although the mysterious meddling they've been doing with the mirrors quite infuriated me (and a lot of other Mandrake users). So, try doing "urpmi --auto-select" and you'll find updating the whole system rather easy...

Re:linux-2.6.5 is the latest, 2.6.4 but not long a (1)

donbrock (705779) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863698)

>I used to be a Mandrake user, but I got sick of the fact that once you install, there are no easely automated ways to update yoyr software.

Hmmm, Mandrake has had MandrakeUpdate for every release that I know of and then there's the command line thing called urmpi or something like that.

Re:linux-2.6.5 is the latest, 2.6.4 but not long a (1)

hazzey (679052) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863708)

That is what urpmi is all about isn't it?

Re:linux-2.6.5 is the latest, 2.6.4 but not long a (1)

Yokaze (70883) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863709)

> I used to be a Mandrake user, but I got sick of the fact that once you install, there are no easely automated ways to update yoyr software

What is wrong with urpmi? Oh, the fact that you don't get the newest revision of all software as soon as it is released as source? Then try using the Cooker, but don't complain about stability.

There is a reason why there are point releases.

> But why couldnt they squeeze in 2.6.4 at the time they were getting ready to relese the ISOs'?

Maybe because they want to test the components before releasing them. And it is not like it is a vanilla 2.6.3 kernel. I'm sure there are several bug-fixes applied from the later releases.

Maybe not ready for prime time (1)

Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863555)

All the reports I've had from people who tried MDK 10 is that you should stick to 9.2 for now, that it's not as good and/or not ready for prime time.

That doesn't really surprise me actually : most x.0 releases of RedHat were crap too usually. In fact, generally speaking, one should stay away from brand new major releases of anything, until they get a chance to mature in the next minor versions.

Re:Maybe not ready for prime time (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8863607)

That's funny because I went to Mepis because I decided Mandrake 9.2 wasn't ready for primetime...

Re:Maybe not ready for prime time (0)

courtrrb (685664) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863679)

9.2 is a big pile of bugs comparied to 10.0 I've been using 10.0 since the betas and have had a LOT less problems than I ever had with 9.2.

mandrake vs debian (1)

jacquesm (154384) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863562)

Is there any kind of objective review of these two ?

I'm trying to decide on one to distribute locally.

Re:mandrake vs debian (1)

tkittel (619119) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863622)

> Is there any kind of objective review of these two ?

I think both of these two nice distro's beat each other in certain areas.

So which one is better will depend heavily on what you want to use it for.

Personally my needs are better satisfied by mandrake than by debian, but as stated YMMV.

Re:mandrake vs debian (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8863656)

Tell you what: Mandrake has some good things, Debian has some good thing. Both are good for different reasons...

WHY DON'T YOU TRY OUT YOURSELF INSTEAD OF ASKING STUPID QUESTIONS?

Re:mandrake vs debian (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8863712)

I use debian on systems that i don't touch very often. For workstations, and servers that need latest and greatest, I go with Mandrake.

apt repositories can be slow to be updated, and you have to be setup for unstable to get the latest software (even for security fixes!).

Mandrake's a bit better about getting the latest software available, except that the mirrors can be dodgy at best.

it's all connected (5, Funny)

Njovich (553857) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863571)

Slashdot was down so some geek finally had time to do the work necessary for this release. Thank you Slashdot for helping us out!

This is crazy...... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8863575)

MDK10 is still full of quite serious bugs, I cannot believe they are putting it out now.

My Experience with Mandrake 10 (4, Informative)

newdamage (753043) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863608)

I downloaded the 3 ISOs for Mandrake 10 Community when it came out, and kept up with the updates throughout the next few weeks. I had it installed on an Asus L3C laptop that dual booted between XP and Linux. Here's my experiences:

1. Install: rocks. Take note Linux Distros, this is how things should happen, enough configuration available, but simple enough to let it go and go watch Family Guy instead.

2. Boot: One major issue, every time I booted it would alternate between thinking my Orinoco gold pcmcia wireless card would be not present, or thing a new one had been put in and try to reinstall it, this was a real pain the in ass, and was the major reason Mandrake 10 got booted for a second time (9.2 is no longer on my good list either) from this laptop. Maybe this distro is just better for desktops.

3. Usage: KDE 3.2 is nice, I like it, but quite frankly, I think I'm still a Gnome person. Also, if all the drak tools worked correctly all the time, I wouldn't have a problem with Mandrake having their config files all over the place, but tweaking config files by hand just isn't a good thing to do with this distro, and therefore some things just don't work properly (drakconnect!).

Overall, Mandrake is a nice distro, and is great for people new to Linux, but for more intermediate and advanced users, there's better things out there. Quite frankly, my laptop runs really really well using Slackware 9.1, Kernel 2.6.5, Dropline Gnome 2.6, and Swaret (using slackware-current) to automate the upgrade process. Yes, you have to get your hands dirty with Slackware sometimes, but at least things work like they're susposed to, and things that aren't there can be easily installed, and personalized shell/perl scripts are finally reality for those who want full control of their machine.

Don't misunderstand me, I think Mandrake has a ton of potential and I really want to see them succeed, it just still needs more polish. But compared to Fedora and SUSE, I think Mandrake is the best jumping in point for users who have never touched Linux before.

Mandrake 10 Sucks (I'm serious!) (1, Informative)

Jagasian (129329) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863614)

I downloaded the Mandrake 10 CDs that were released about a month ago. The install went ok, but I was surprised that it was impossible to go "back" after most decisions. Upon booting the installed OS, normal users could not login to their graphical desktop. Trying to do so caused the system to attempt to run KDE... but then the screen flickered and returned to the KDM login prompt.

However, root could login, but KDE was behaving very strangly. I even tried to make a couple new accounts to try again with normal users. Still, only root could login to KDE. I then tried to run urmpi so as to update the system, but it only returned cryptic errors.

So I was said to myself "this is crap, next"!

I then decided to give the latest beta of Sarge a try (beta 3). Sure the installer wasn't has pretty looking as Mandrake's, but it was an easy install... and better yet, the resultant install actually worked. ...never would have thought that Debian would be easier to install than Mandrake. Then again, Linux distros are changing very rapidly. The moral of the story is to be open minded and try out other distros.

In case slashdot.org is down... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8863639)

There's always slashdot.jp!

Torrent (1)

LordK3nn3th (715352) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863659)

Anyone got a link to a .torrent?

Huh?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8863673)

I thought Mandrake 10 Community was final.. i dled it last month and am using it.. how different is this release? I'm new to linux so i wont be able to upgrade ill just wipe and install fresh but i dont want to, i got everything the way i want it. waaaaaaa

I have a problem with it. (3, Informative)

WindBourne (631190) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863685)

I am a silver member. I have been for some time. I am currently running 10.0 community on several of my systems so that I could at least help debug. Now, it appears that a silver member will only get you a desktop, not the real core. No APache. No hylafax. No kolab. No DB (postgres or mysql). Nothing.

Is there anybody here from mandrake who can help explain why it appears that those of us who helped bring you out of bankruptcy are suddenly being screwed?

I will be downloading it, but if the web page was correct about this, then I will be canceling the membership and turning 10 families on over to a different distro. Hopefully, it it just a screw up in how things are presented.

mandrake less buggy? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8863702)

mandrake used to be really crappy when i first tried it, i really wonder how good or bad they are now. Its hard to think that their distro is any more stable now. They still are very keen on using the bleeding edge software, which is also a fancy word to say "our stuff is also bleeding edge in bug count" ITs very important to have rock solid stability for a linux disstro as that seems to be the ethos linux prides itself on. Unless i have been living under a rock, i cant imagine its any diff today.

Incepco [incepco.com]

Life almost came to an end (1)

Professor Cool Linux (759581) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863705)

/. Goes off line as posting of mandrake story goes up.

Film @ 11.

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Brought to you by _______ software
" Censoring to best of _____"

Mandrake is screwing over its own members. (1, Interesting)

BrookHarty (9119) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863720)

I just signed up for the Standard plan. Now I find out, even though I'm a mandrake club member, I can't download some ISO's. Only Silver and higher can. And the ISO's I get are the public release version. How freaking ABSURD!

I'm calling my credit card and reversing the charges.


The torrent files are ready, silver members and above may download the 3 first ISOs of the PowerPack (PWP) of that release (+ 2 CDs Bonus), standard members may get the 100% GPL 3 ISOs of the download (DLD) edition (+ 1 CD Bonus).
Members with a Gold membership will get the 3 PowerPack+ ISOs and 4 CDs bonus.
Corporate members will also get the DVD ISO of the PowerPack+.

CD problem in 10.0 (1)

jackstraw2323 (730834) | more than 10 years ago | (#8863722)

I can't get the thing to install since the CD insists that the CD isn't in the drive right after it booted from it(The erratta notes say try booting from CD2, no joy yet). So I can't even tell if 10.0 is any good or not since it refuses to install. 9.1 was fine for the install, if a little flaky in operation itself.
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