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Amazon's Search Engine Goes Live

CmdrTaco posted more than 10 years ago | from the everyone-is-getting-into-the-game dept.

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fjordboy writes "John Battelle has posted a discussion and review of Amazon's new search engine: a9.com. From the article:"What makes this particularly noteworthy is that A9 is built quite literally on top of Google. In short, Amazon has taken the best of Google, and made it, to my mind, a lot better. Sound familiar? Yup, it's what Google did to Yahoo, Yahoo to Netscape...you get the picture." "

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Ads (5, Funny)

panxerox (575545) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864486)

Hmm Google - a search engine that displays ads, Amazon - an ad that displays searches, oh yeah that's gonna rock.

Dear Senator Kerry: (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8864535)

Dear Senator Kerry,

In spite of what you have said repeatedly in the past, all members of the US Armed Forces are NOT war criminals. Not most of them. Not some of them. In fact, I have NEVER encountered a serving or former member of the US military who is a war criminal.

Of course, I was never around any members of Vietnam Veterans Against the War. So maybe that's why you've gotten such a skewed view of reality.

Or, you're just a liar.

Re:Dear Senator Kerry: (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8864566)

what does this have to do with anything except your retarded notion that George Dubya is "one of us" and that Kerry is a bad person. Get over the past that happened almost 40yrs ago. Quit being a mindless twat.

Re:Dear Senator Kerry: (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8864597)

oh go fuck yourself you are just as bad as the grandparent poster.

gw and kerry are both fucking losers.

Re:Ads (4, Informative)

SphericalCrusher (739397) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864667)

Google built on top of Yahoo? What? They both use two different ways to search the internet.

Yahoo with its meta tags and Google with its linkback system makes them two different search engines.

Re:Ads (1)

Uber Banker (655221) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864706)

what they may do is not the same as how they may do it

Tinfoil Hat Not Required (5, Funny)

RobertB-DC (622190) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864487)

From the 7 Reasons to Use A9.com [a9.com] :

Search History: All your searches at A9.com are stored on our servers and shown to you at any time from any computer you use. Clicking on a link performs the search again. You can hide the window at any time and a password will be required to open it again. You can edit your history, for example, to hide an entry.

Click History: If any of the web search results include a site that you have seen before, it's marked on the result. We even tell you the last time you visited that site.


You don't have to be among the tin-foil hat crowd to have a low regard for this "feature". There are just some searches that you *don't* want to remember.

It's not a stretch to imagine a situation like this:

Boss: "Google me some info on our competitors."

Lackey: "Check out this new A9.com search!"

Boss: "What's that link there? I didn't know you were interested in goats... [Click] Damn! You're fired!"

Re:Tinfoil Hat Not Required (5, Funny)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864591)

Boss: "What's that link there? I didn't know you were interested in goats... [Click] Damn! You're fired!"

As if you couldn't find history in Mozilla...

Could be worse, could be the boss turns to you and winks.

what's their plan... track most popular searches, keep a cookie full of it, suggest these fine things the next time you go to Amazon.com... could even help them anticipate what to carry [We need to carry ... goats?] as if their marketing data isn't already legion...

Re:Tinfoil Hat Not Required (5, Interesting)

MrBlue VT (245806) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864617)

Yeah, the fact that they don't provide direct links to the pages also throws my paranoia into overdrive. This is the link that you get when you search for Slashdot:
http://a9.com/-/search/a9-redirect.jsp?url=http:// slashdot.org/&title=%26lt%3Bb%26gt%3BSlashdot%26lt %3B%2Fb%26gt%3B%3A+News+for+nerds%2C+stuff+that+ma tters&token=0A3316C2D3DF4FF99CB34DD1FCCFD04B&t=108 19845643&qt=ws
Clicky. [a9.com]

So basically they can track whatever pages you go to.

Re:Tinfoil Hat Not Required (4, Informative)

orthogonal (588627) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864661)

You don't have to be among the tin-foil hat crowd to have a low regard for this "feature". There are just some searches that you *don't* want to remember.

You make a very good point.

And note that the Amazon page carefully says that you can "hide" an entry -- not that you can delete it.

But please remember that Google already logs your IP address and search terms; so presumably thus means that now both Google and Amazon will be keeping tabs on you.

frist prost (-1, Troll)

joe_bruin (266648) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864488)

frost!

GNAA claims responsibility for Momfuck virus (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8864492)

GNAA claims responsibility for Momfuck virus.
By Horatio Brunswick

New York, NY - GNAA (Gay Nigger Association of America) The GNAA today claimed responsibility for the release of the devastating trojan Momfuck.1o1, which has caused an estimated 486 billion dollars US in lost productivity and unread penis enlargement offers.

In a drastic escalation of their widely criticized christmas island bombing campaign which has killed thousands of defenceless CI natives, the GNAA made vague threats last week in a "first post" on slashdot.org, a popular "news for trolls" website. In the post (not published here due to profanity and ascii nudity) the GNAA threatened the "Destruction of all internet" if net martyr http://www.goatse.cx was not immediately reinstated. Initally dismissed by self proclaimed security experts Cowboykneel and Linux Toreballs as a childish lark, the world was totally unprepared for the storm to come.

Momfuck.lol exploits three vulnerabilities within Linux's UPnP implementation: a remotely exploitable buffer overflow that allows an attacker gain SYSTEM level access to any default installation of Linux, a Denial of Service (DoS) attack, and a Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) attack. Within hours of release, every backbone in the country had become infected with the virus, bringing the internet to a crashing halt. The DHS announced an orange alert when the virus spread to even such such remote non-countries as Canada and England, becomming a worldwide computer epidemic. The sequence of events that followed was devastating. ATMs in several states began routing funds from caucasian bank accounts into a GNAA controlled cayman islands account. Traffic lights in all major metropolitan areas malfunctioned, displaying pink rather than the standard red yellow and green configuration, causing unprecedented accidents and traffic delays. Radio stations ceased transmitting their standard programming and began a round the clock broadcast of a bootleg of the Village People's "YMCA" which was altered to "GNAA." Perhaps most horrifyingly, The FOX network's LOL sunday programming lineup was interrupted, and replaced by a graphic video of two men having anal sex, backed by the lyrics "Boom I got your boyfriend".


The FBI has fallen under heavy criticism for their failure to respond to the threat of the GNAA. The general public seems uwilling to accept their claims that the post was below their current threshold. The FBI's top cyber-security unit warned consumers and corporations Friday night to take new steps beyond those recommended by SCO Corp. to protect against hackers who might try to attack major flaws discovered in the newest version of Linux software, or to get a life, faggots. FBI Department head John Asscrotch is expected to resign in disgrace shortly.

What follows is a transcript of an actual internet relay chat conversation, with two individuals who seem to have been infected by momfuck.lol. It is my hope that this will help computer users to recognize and avoid the virus if encountered.


* Now talking in #eurotekken
* Topic is 'http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/forums/showthread.p hp?s=&postid=1527925#post1527925 : everyone give your 0.00c'
* Set by SirCane on Tue Apr 06 15:57:26
<l0de> "Mom, I can't sleep would you mind if I get in bed with you?
<l0de> I have virus!
<l0de> She was wearing a baby doll semi-see through nightie, and was embarrassed to let me in bed with her.
<subt-L> haha.. this is a fucking crazy virus..
<l0de> I can't type this fast!
<l0de> However she remembered how I had let her sleep with me when she needed to.
<l0de> Oh my god.
<l0de> "Sure John, it's a big bed," she said in an uncertain tone.
<l0de> "Mom, would you mind if I snuggle a little with you.
<l0de> I just feel kind of sad tonight, I need you close to me."
<l0de> I said; without waiting for an answer I pulled her tight against me.
<l0de> I kept grinding my crotch into her ass trying to get comfortable.
<Exygone> LOL, random flag in between
<l0de> My hands crept up to her breasts and began playing with them, lazily at first.
<Exygone> too good
<l0de> "John... JOHN what are you doing?
<l0de> This is giving me such a headache! I have to go to school in 3 hours and my term paper is not saved!
<subt-L> this is fucking insane..
<l0de> Stop that and go to sleep."
<subt-L> haha
<l0de> But I could not stop.
<neoKEN> jewish hacker. ho ho ho
<l0de> I pulled her nightie up and wet my finger.
<l0de> I then stuck it into her slightly moist pussy.
<l0de> "John listen to me, stop right now.
<l0de> This has to stop.
<neoKEN> go into command prompt
<l0de> You are my son, and we can't do this.
<Exygone> there it is again
<l0de> Please John don't do this to me."
<Exygone> hahaha
<neoKEN> type NETSTAT -o
<subt-L> don't click on irc links..
<l0de> I did stop then and sat up next to her.
<l0de> I pulled her into my lap and cupped her breasts in my hands while licking her ear.
<l0de> "Susan honey, we need to talk, we need to finish this.
<l0de> I told you a long time ago that I love you, that I need you.
<subt-L> good lesson to learn.
<l0de> I want to possess you utterly.
<l0de> I want you to give me your body, to make love to me.
<l0de> I have a tape mom.
<neoKEN> it will show u all the connection on your computer
<l0de> A tape of you raping me.
<l0de> I could blackmail you, send you to jail.
<l0de> neoken- I will never click another link again
<l0de> But that does not get me what I want.
<l0de> I don't just want you on Christmas, I don't want stolen kisses, or the occasional snuggle.
<neoKEN> save that in notepad.
<l0de> I want you to want me.
<l0de> To be hot and wild and passionate, and completely in love with me.
<l0de> I want to have the right to grab you and fuck you anytime I want, just like dad did.
<neoKEN> u will find your hacker :P
<l0de> I want to wake up to find you sucking on my cock just because you feel like it.
<l0de> Mom can you honestly say you don't want that too?
<l0de> Oh my god. NEoken, I hit start menu but it's not popping up!
<l0de> Can you honestly say that you can bear to have me walk out of your life forever?
<l0de> Because that is what I would have to do.
<c0m> so umm why doesnt someone kick dis do0d
<l0de> You are the woman I love, the only woman I have ever made love to.
<l0de> If I can't have you, I will have to go.
<l0de> All buttons on quicklaunch don't work
<l0de> If I am near you, I have to fuck you.
<l0de> It is as simple as that," I said as I wrote my name on her breasts with my finger.
<l0de> She was crying now, and I could smell her juices beginning to boil and drip out her pussy.
<insanelee> whoever bans this guy
<insanelee> i'm gonna ban you
<neoKEN> c0m: some people enjoy reading it. lol
<l0de> She laid back against my chest and I wrapped her in my arms.
<Exygone> c0m - because insanelee is reading the story
<subt-L> he
<l0de> "I don't want to lose you, I, I know that you are more than just a son to me.
<l0de> I am so scared though.
<l0de> Wanting you this way is wrong.
<l0de> I am your mother.
<l0de> I should not let you play with my tits, I should not want you to lick my pussy, or need you to fuck my ass but for some sick reason I do.
<l0de> I know I can't allow you to fuck me, I can't let you put that big slab of cock-meat inside me.
<l0de> If I do that, there is no turning back, you will own me.
<l0de> thank u insanelee
<insanelee> i like the panic in lodes voice/msgs also
<l0de> I will become addicted to your dick.
<l0de> Oh god, what am I going to do.
<subt-L> this is sick... i think i want people to get this virus.
<Exygone> looool
<l0de> I love you John, but it is still wrong!"
<l0de> We laid that way for a long time, just holding on to each other.
<neoKEN> doesn't matter to me. i don't read #eurotekken chatlog. am not a tekken bum. lol
<l0de> My hard on was peeking up between her thighs.
<l0de> Finally I came up with a solution.
<l0de> "Mom I understand that our relationship is not normal, but it is not WRONG either.
<l0de> Making love to you could never be wrong.
<l0de> I love you and I want to show you how much.
<l0de> Susan, it's Christmas.
<l0de> Let me have you this one time.
<l0de> Make love to me, be greedy, teach me how to please you.
<insanelee> why are you thankikng me
<l0de> Make me fuck you right.
<l0de> We owe it to ourselves to try it at least once.
<l0de> You are All I want for Christmas, all I have ever wanted."
<insanelee> you are just an investment
<Exygone> lol
<insanelee> i need your stories
<l0de> Susan was quiet for a few seconds and then she slowly nodded her head.
<Exygone> an asset
<l0de> Her hands were trembling as she smiled up at me and said yes.
<l0de> I was so happy, that I crushed her against me and said over and over, "I love you baby, I am going to be so good to you, I love you mom," while kissing and hugging her.
<Exygone> in lee's masterplan
<l0de> insane- if I get banned I may never get help
<l0de> Our kisses slowly began to deepen, she was on top of me straddling my waist.
<insanelee> lol
<l0de> Her breasts were brushing against my chest and my cock was laying against her ass.
<subt-L> is it repeating? or is it still going original?
<l0de> I was licking her lips, sucking on them when her pretty, pink little tongue flicked out to meet mine.
<l0de> I sucked her into my mouth and we both let out a little sigh of happiness.
<l0de> jesus, how can I launch command prompt?
<l0de> Susan began crawling down my stomach, stopping briefly to lick my belly button clean.
<l0de> Then she began playing with my cock, rubbing it against her face, eyes, nose, sniffing and then licking and sucking it into her mouth.
<l0de> It was amazing to watch.
<l0de> My mother was overcome by a wave of pure dick-lust as she began to swallow my cock.
<insanelee> ask neoKEN
<l0de> I don't know how big my dad's cock was, but he must have been my size or bigger, cuz my mom swallowed my fat 8 incher like an old pro.
<l0de> She kept looking me right in the eye, with this wicked little grin on her face, daring me to fuck her properly.
<insanelee> i am just readin
<l0de> I did.
<subt-L> dick-lust!
<l0de> I began to ram it down her throat, we established a good rhythm.
<subt-L> hahaha
<l0de> She breathed through her nose and every 20 seconds or so I would pull out and let her lick and massage my knob (and breathe), before plunging back in.
<Exygone> lmao
<l0de> "Cum on my face baby, cum all over your mother's face," she said between slurps, and squeezes and soft, slow, sucks.
<l0de> I could not help it, she was sucking the sperm right out of me.
<l0de> I grabbed Susan's head and pulled it tight against my crotch.
<neoKEN> i don't know any other shortcuts to the command prompt other than the start menu
<l0de> I held her in place as I powerfucked her throat.
<neoKEN> ask M$
<l0de> Precum was bubbling out of me and I could hear it gurgling in her mouth.
<l0de> My balls were twitching and jerking hard now and I felt the sperm swimming their way to the head of my cock.
<l0de> "You want my sperm mom, you want some stinky-sticky?
<l0de> Take it you beautiful little slut, take your son's cum!"
<l0de> I bellowed as I shot the first load down her throat.
<insanelee> this is sick
<l0de> I remembered that she wanted some on her face too; so I pulled out and pressed my spurting cock against her nostril and shot it up her nose.
<neoKEN> comamnd prompt should be an emergency shortcut
<l0de> I had one or two dribbles left so I placed my cock on each of her eyelids and let er rip.
<l0de> Mom was a little surprised...
<c0m> this is gay\
<l0de> but she did not complain.
<l0de> I don't know if I can explain how sexy my mom looked.
<insanelee> 'cum all over your mothers face'
<l0de> My cum was in her belly, a little drop was hanging from the corner of her mouth.
<l0de> Her nose was dripping my cum, and her eyes were crusting over with it.
<l0de> (Guys try it with your girlfriend tonight, it is fucking amazing!)
<l0de> I wanted to rest for a few minutes, but I could not.
<insanelee> com shut up he needs help
<l0de> neoken- yeah, Itried ctrl alt delete but it doesn't work!
<l0de> My mom was obviously very horny and it would not have been polite to leave her hanging.
<l0de> We switched positions and I settled in for a long, slow lick.
<l0de> I may not have a lot of experience in some aspects of sex.
<l0de> Technically I am still a virgin, I guess, since mom has never let me fuck her pussy.
* c0m sets mode: +m
<c0m> yep
<subt-L> oh,,
<subt-L> ouch...
<subt-L> ...
<insanelee> ay
<insanelee> AY
<c0m> ok
<neoKEN> then he cums on her face. THE END
<c0m> lol
<Exygone> Lol
<insanelee> he stopped
<subt-L> haha
<subt-L> story time is over.
<insanelee> what the hell is this
* l0de is now known as helpplz
<insanelee> WHAT HAPPEN TO MY STORIES
<c0m> im sorry it was pretty annoying
* helpplz is now known as l0de
<subt-L> l0de didn't even get kicked.
<insanelee> yea
<insanelee> it just stopped
<insanelee> you didn't even kick him dummy
<neoKEN> sadly i haven't read anything this well written in a long time. lol
* c0m is not a dummy
* insanelee sets mode: -bb l0de!*l0de@
<neoKEN> heh, i need to read some books.
<Exygone> this guy is funny
<insanelee> bring him baaaaaaaaaaaaack
<insanelee> i want my stories
<neoKEN> exy: hahahhaha
<subt-L> that was pretty hilarious.
<insanelee> it was all a joke
<insanelee> damn it guys
<insanelee> why ruin a good thing
<c0m> its fucking annoying
* l0de is now known as cantchat
* cantchat is now known as halp
<insanelee> com
<Exygone> ;p;
<Exygone> lol
* halp is now known as l0de
<insanelee> then get the fuck out
<insanelee> pfft
<c0m> stfu bronson you get the fuck out
<c0m> you never come here
<Exygone> WHAAAAAAAAAAAT
* insanelee sets mode: +b *!*c0m@
<c0m> anyway
<Exygone> lol
* c0m was kicked by insanelee (i'm elitist)
Disconnected
* Attempting to rejoin channel #eurotekken
* Rejoined channel #eurotekken
* Topic is 'http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/forums/showthread.p hp?s=&postid=1527925#post1527925 : everyone give your 0.00c'
* Set by SirCane!SirCane@
<l0de> Yhbt yhl
<c0m> well i could care either way
<l0de> HAND
<l0de> (^o^)b
/part


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People who searched for "warez" also read... (5, Interesting)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864493)

This really doesn't seem to be much of a breakthrough aside from the fact that they are running your serarch past Google, Amazon.com and Alexa at once and presenting a unified interface.

This is like an infomerical from Amazon trying to pretend to be programming. I'll take my Google straight, and go to Amazon.com when I want to go shopping, thank you very much.

Re:People who searched for "warez" also read... (1)

Danse (1026) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864593)

Kind of like some of the old metasearch engines that would feed your query to half a dozen search engines and combine the results for you.

Re:People who searched for "warez" also read... (0)

Uber Banker (655221) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864645)

A bit lik Google these days then. Not that Google gets paid, just cripled... by kelkoo, pricewatch, et al, who destroyed what was an efficient search engine.

Re:People who searched for "warez" also read... (1)

geekbruin (628580) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864698)

yep. not impressed.

After a while... (1)

index72 (591909) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864495)

...somethings are just good enough.

Weird findings regarding IE (4, Interesting)

Patik (584959) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864497)

On their "what's cool" [a9.com] page, they say you can just hover your cursor over the 'site info' button below search results to see more info without leaving the page (works in IE but not Firefox).

So I searched for Windows [a9.com] and hovered over the site info for the Internet Explorer Home Page (the second result), and the bubble that pops up says:

People who visit this page also visit:
  • mozilla.org
  • The Gnome DOM Engine
  • Adobe's SVG Viewer
So people are looking for IE but turn to Mozilla instead? Are people searching for "web browser" and clicking on Mozilla out of interest?

Here are the top links for "web browser" [a9.com] : Mozilla, Firefox, Opera, Opera again, Safari, Lynx, Galeon, Netscape, Anybrowser.org, and evolt.org.

Not a single link to IE on the first page of results for "web browser"? Fishy.

Re:Weird findings regarding IE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8864552)

The same thing happens in Google. This isn't some sort of amazon.com conspiracy. A9 (as the original points out) is based directly upon Google.

Re:Weird findings regarding IE (2, Informative)

TwistedSquare (650445) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864557)

Not a single link to IE on the first page of results for "web browser"? Fishy.

Actually, if you search google for that there isn't either. Must be a terminology thing, or no-one rates IE as a worthwhile web browser so its not high on the pagerank...

Re:Weird findings regarding IE (0)

joe90 (48497) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864700)

Google does have a history of "tweaking" pagerank results. It's more likely that the unadjusted pagerank results are saturated with hits for IE - therefore totally eliminating any results for non-IE browsers.

What's the bet that almost all of the unadjusted IE results were about how "This site is best viewed with IE", or IE sucks or doesn't work, or for some arcane browser compatibility issue, thus removing any chance that the person searching gets relevant results?

Re:Weird findings regarding IE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8864563)

Yeah, IE must have a 0.3% market share or something because it's not findable on Google under "web browser".

Re:Weird findings regarding IE (1)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864574)

Here are the top links for "web browser": Mozilla, Firefox, Opera, Opera again, Safari, Lynx, Galeon, Netscape, Anybrowser.org, and evolt.org.

Not a single link to IE on the first page of results for "web browser"? Fishy.


A9's just passing through Google's results on web searches. IE has fallen out of the first page on Google even...

Re:Weird findings regarding IE (1)

antic (29198) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864579)

I can't imagine many people actually need to download IE. I know I haven't done it for a long time. It's usually already on the computer or comes on an ISP CD, and you can easily upgrade it from there.

I'm not sure that it's much to get excited about, unfortunately (I use IE, but think Mozilla is pretty decent).

Re:Weird findings regarding IE (1)

cybermancer (99420) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864673)

It's usually already on the computer

Internet Explorer is like the picture that comes with the frame. It is good enough for those who really don't care to upgrade.

Re:Weird findings regarding IE (1)

Nomihn0 (739701) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864602)

The same happens on google [google.com] . Who's fishy now? Amazon didn't edit the google results.

Re:Weird findings regarding IE (1)

chgros (690878) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864677)

The same happens on google. Who's fishy now? Amazon didn't edit the google results.
I don't know what google you're using, but on mine (clicking your link), IE is on third place.

Re:Weird findings regarding IE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8864616)

also try searching for "operating system", apples/macs are mention by the 3rd page and microsft is no where to be found, where linux and unix are number 1.

Also note... (5, Informative)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864624)

They redirect and try to trap you from backing out. How refreshing. One of the web page practices I most despise.

Re:Weird findings regarding IE (4, Insightful)

Cecil (37810) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864630)

Not really fishy.

No one tells anyone to go "get IE". Everyone who can have IE already HAS IE, for better or for worse. No need to link to it. As a result, the pagerank of most "Download IE" sites (uh, Windows Update???) would be remarkably low compared to the number of people who link to Mozilla et al.

Emacs is a web browser! (1)

Atmchicago (555403) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864634)

As usual, emacs finds its way in there, even for web browsers! (and before IE is mentioned). Look here [a9.com] to see what I mean. (I do realize that emacs isn't a web browser, but still...)

Re:Emacs is a web browser! (1)

JoeBaldwin (727345) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864695)

Of course Emacs is a web browser. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if it had the ability to serve web pages by now, it's already a newsreader, email client, browser, text editor and kitchen sink.

Re:Weird findings regarding IE (4, Insightful)

Jahf (21968) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864638)

Not really at all.

1) The people most likely to search for "web browser" or anything related to IE's homepage are most likely looking at alternatives. Most folks looking for IE know that the first thing to do is type "www.microsoft.com" and go from there.

2) Not very many people look for IE online in general ... it is "just there" and is updated through Windows Update. Related to #1, if they are having to research IE they are probably doing so in some form of technical aspect.

3) Microsoft doesn't market IE as a "web browser" online, it is a Windows component and as such would have far different content indexed than that of any of the listed browsers.

4) The search results you mention appear in almost the same order if you search for "web browser" on Google. Is that Fishy to you, too?

5) There ARE things about A9 that seem fishy ... I agree with other posters who think storing search history is not something I want to see done ... but I don't think the results you mention are.

Re:Weird findings regarding IE (1)

thdexter (239625) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864690)

What's fishy about it? If you don't have Windows you can't get IE, and if you have Windows you have IE already...

then lets fuck with it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8864693)

I want a people who visits this page also visits hustler.com when searching for microsoft.
Start your a9 bombing now.

Re:Weird findings regarding IE (1)

Doomie (696580) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864705)

When you are at the result for the IE lik -- hover to the "site info" you notice "Speed: very slow". Fishy indeed :-)

Oh that's real nice... (5, Insightful)

bigHairyDog (686475) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864507)

There's a search history viewable to the user. So just when various senators, the EFF and half of /. were getting uppety about Gmail's ability to connect a name with a search history, Amazon do the exactly the same.

In fact, they go one step further - with Google's email you can always lie about your detals, but with Amazon's history feature you can't - it's tied to your Amazon account, credit card and all.

Of course, I Have Nothing To Hide, but I still think that comapnies shouldn't put themselves in a position where they have a load of juicy data that the police only need a warrant to get at.

It would have been smart for Amazon to keep this feature offline for a few weeks to get a better idea of how well google deals with the criticism.

actually looks really good (3, Insightful)

untermensch (227534) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864510)

I hate to say it, but the site looks really slick. The search history, site info, diary feature, book searching are all really clever ideas. But this takes the whole Google privcy debate to another level doesn't it.

Color scheme kind of turns me of tho'

Re:actually looks really good (2, Informative)

tyler_larson (558763) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864668)

Ugh.. what a hideous color scheme. It took quite a bit of intestinal fortitude to get myself to actually do a search.

And then it just got worse.

frist poast toast (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8864512)

frist poast toast

A9 Search Plugin for Firefox (4, Interesting)

sgarrity (262297) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864517)

I whipped up a quick A9 Search Plugin for Firefox [actsofvolition.com] .

Re:A9 Search Plugin for Firefox (4, Informative)

Patik (584959) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864555)

Alternatively, make a bookmark for http://a9.com/%s , right-click on the bookmark to edit its properties, and give a keyword like "a" or "a9". Then just type "a searchterm" in the address bar to search.

Improving or copying? (1)

r_glen (679664) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864520)

"...Amazon has taken the best of Google"

Taken the best? I don't mean to sound like a troll, but it looks like a blatant ripoff of Google. Maybe this just means that everything about Google is the best.

CLICK BELOW (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8864524)

Everyone should run this search [a9.com] just to break in their search engine.

Re:CLICK BELOW (3, Funny)

Apiakun (589521) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864658)

I can't decide whether it's funny or scary that the first result is a story about Bezos and Steve Jobs meeting. Did they see eachother naked? Did Bezos get a Steve Job ?

screw amazon (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8864527)

Amazon's search engine can't even add 2+2... Google on the other hand can do combinatorial mathematics.

Search the text of some of Amazon's bookstore.. (4, Insightful)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864530)

Amazon's "Inside the Book" search engine is a very interesting thing.

If you only need to see a paragraph to know what you need to know, you have no reason left to pay for the rest of the book.

However, most of the returns are from fiction books, so maybe you're better off just sticking with Google and saving this as a fallback only.

DLF 0wnz the kiddie porn market niggers! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8864534)

EW!!!

First search for the word Vagina [a9.com]

Returned This! [utah.edu]

GUH-ROH-DEE

I love you kewsh

Seelet is the biggest queen in #dlf

My cats name is brownshoo

Re:DLF 0wnz the kiddie porn market niggers! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8864575)

Not as attractive as I normally find them...

I Suppose... (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864541)

I suppose the first ads, or search results for that matter, will eventually point to products carried by Amazon.

Sounds a bit like asking a certain president to invade your country to help you find some WMD you mislaid.

Ok, I'm cynical, but it's my turn dammit.

A quick comparison with google. (2, Funny)

ForestGrump (644805) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864542)

I searched the following keywords:
sex:
a9.com: about 8,610,000 hits
google: about 216,000,000
goatse:
a9.com: about 9,930
google: about 41,
amishrakefight.org/gfy
a9.com: about 211
google: Sorry, no information is available...

Statistically, 2/3 of the time you are better off using a9.com

-Grump

Re:A quick comparison with google. (1)

Doctor7 (669966) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864665)

Since when did more results for goatse = 'better off'?

I think you should have given that one to google.

a9? What 9? (1)

ssssmemyself (709098) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864543)

Man, what does that 9 stand for? It isn't "Amazon".length, that's 6. As far as I can tell, there aren't 9 things that start with A related to this. Any ideas? I wish we could Search Inside The Programmer's Head to find out what on Earth it is.

Re:a9? What 9? (4, Interesting)

donutz (195717) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864692)

Amazon.com => A9

"A" plus 9 more characters.

But then you go an add a .com to the end...I guess A5.com didn't sound cool enough or was already taken.

Re:a9? What 9? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8864696)

alphanumeric perhaps - A for alpha 9 for numeric!

It seems a bit lacking (2, Insightful)

outofpaper (189404) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864545)

While they say that they might be better, there what looks to me like clutter.

"Perfection is reached, not when there is no longer anything to
add, but when there is no longer anything to take away."
-- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Google got this right.

Did anyone else notice (1)

LOL WTF OMG!!!!!!!!! (768357) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864547)

That if you click Site Info for a search result, it shows Alexda data on Amazon.com?

That sort of doesn't make sense, as my website isn't a product they sell.

What? (1)

bamberg29 (240460) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864551)

Amazon the next Google?

David

Amazon has taken the best of Google... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8864554)

and patented it. Litigation begins tomorrow.

So check this out - a9's Booty Filter. (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8864556)

They're running some serious anti booty filters.

Try this:

Google: 'suicide girls' (you know you've been there)

Now a9 'suicide girls'

Hold the two results up next to one another. See?

Try this with other, ahem, keywords.

lazy name selection (4, Funny)

wwest4 (183559) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864559)

Does anyone know the origin of the name? It seems like they just started enumerating domain name strings starting with null until they found one that wasn't taken...

a1.com? no, steak sauce.
a2.com? nope. taken.
a3.com? porn site. ...
a9.com? unregistered. dude, we've done it!

Re:lazy name selection (1)

bobbabemagnet (247383) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864625)

amazoncom is 9 letters, maybe something related to that.

Re:lazy name selection (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8864657)

Is the porn site any good? (I'm at work)

Reputation (5, Interesting)

SeanTobin (138474) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864561)

I used to use altavista as my search engine way back when. Then, they decided that thier users were less important than thier customers. From there after about 8-9 months of use and being set as my homepage - I dumped altavista for google.

Google has proven over and over again that thier primary concern is for thier users. They have found ways to make money via ads that in no way interupt the user. New features are constantly being developed that will benefit users.

[side note: I am planning on signing up for gmail and using it as my primary webmail app. I do not consider it an invasion of privacy if I see an add for serial cables when someone sends me an email with a set of rs232 pinouts. I actually find it to be a unique situation where both google's users and customers can benefit]

Now, look at amazon. This is a company that has decieved users numerous times. Anyone remember the price mismatches between repeat customers and new customers? How honest is my search going to be if I look for '+"golf club" order online'? Something tells me I'll end up at a amazon.com page.

I understand that a similar situation could occour with froggle. The fact is it has not happened in either of them yet. However based on reputation, I would bet it would happen with google last.

1 reason not to use a9.com (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8864564)

I searched for Blowjob and got 0 results WTF?

How about 1 reason not to use this crap: CENSORSHIP.

figures... (0)

liloconf (560960) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864565)

OO, the new trend in all things computing...
OOP
OOSE
prOOfit

Not Live (1, Redundant)

jdh-22 (636684) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864571)

A9 is not live. Amazon still has it in beta. Hence the words, BETA next to A9 on its home page.

URL Short cuts - cool! (2, Insightful)

Psychic Burrito (611532) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864576)

From the a9 what's cool [a9.com] page:
URL Short Cuts: At A9.com you can search directly from the browser URL box by typing: a9.com/query
I think this is extremely cool. A short way to enter queries by even bypassing the home page completely. I suggested this to Google 3 years back, but they wouldn't hear. I hope they will implement this now in some form.

Join the club (1)

brunes69 (86786) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864643)

Seeing how I can type gg:query in Konqueror to search Google, that beats a9's "short cut" feature by 5 characters. In firefox you don't even have to type anything at all, just use the Google search box.

Granted, you could also add a9 engines to both of these, but then it would just be on par with Google anyways.

Point is this is only useful to people who still use obsolete older web browsers like IE.

one problem: (0)

edrugtrader (442064) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864585)

when i click my scroll wheel to do quick verticle scrolling, the page doesn't accept it and won't let me do it.

this is because the page is littered with "onclick" this and "onmouseover" that so the action is ignored by IE.

this is BAD.

Re:one problem: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8864674)

IE.

this is BAD.


Yes, IE is bad. You're just now figuring that out?

off-topic (1)

CGP314 (672613) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864586)

I noticed that under their 7 reasons to use A9 they have this:

Site Info: See information about the website you are visiting, including related links, site statistics (including traffic rank), sites linking to this site, and user ranking. Select from the menu to go to the site's page on Amazon.com where you can get more information and write a review about the site.

I hoped that there would be a mac version (The only thing I miss about switching to OSX is there is no way I can get the google pagerank of my website and others) so I could at least have an easy vague sense of a website's importance, but when I clicked through... ::sigh:: windows only :(


-Colin [colingregorypalmer.net]

Re:off-topic (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8864633)

yeah, no Amiga version, life's hell

Re:off-topic (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8864699)

And according to their job posting [a9.com] for client software, they're only looking for Windows developers. Fuckers. BOYCOTT!!

Hmm... (1)

scrubmuffin (173705) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864590)

Brings to mind windows 1.0-3.x's relationship with dos.

Nope. Didn't like them either.

Whats to stop Google from including said features? (1)

qualico (731143) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864598)

I might have missed something, however, what is to stop Google from doing a Micro$oft move and just incorporate said features?

The article after all does hint that this could be just another cat and mouse game.

Amazon on top of Google? (1)

pantycrickets (694774) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864603)

Google took Yahoo.. took away all the lame "portal" crap that was the "craze" then.. rewrote a whole new, better search engine, and set it loose on the world.

Amazon took the stripped down look of Google, tied it into their marketing, and set it loose on Slashdot.

Porn (5, Funny)

PhatKat (78180) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864607)

Here's proof of how bad this search engine is. I searched for 'porn' and didn't find any! I'm on the 5th page of search results and still nothing. what kind of search engine can't find porn on the internet?

Re:Porn (1)

qualico (731143) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864636)

lol!

Just go to bangedup.com
Its all that your sick mind will ever need. :->

In case of slashdotting... (5, Funny)

PollGuy (707987) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864612)

here's Google's (rather curious) cache [google.com]

Show me an A9 cache of Google's cache and we'll talk...

way back when... (2, Interesting)

Pahroza (24427) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864703)

And here are the Way Back When Machine [archive.org] 's results for a9.com [archive.org] .

OpenSearch (1)

Luguber123 (203502) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864619)

I don't feel like trusting any of these corporate guys, there should be plenty of ways to make a completely open, distributed search enegine, the way it should be made.

the color!, oh, the color (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8864629)

Does that hurt anyone else's eyes besides mine?

I'll stick with Google, thanks. (2, Funny)

El_Smack (267329) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864631)

Read the "Reasons to use a9" linked here [a9.com] .

I bet they could build a pretty good profile on what interests you.
Now if they only had some type of online store that could sell you something, they could really clean up.

Nice touch (4, Interesting)

CGP314 (672613) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864644)

I like that they used a beta symbol for the B. I wonder how many people will notice.


-Colin [colingregorypalmer.net]

Check out the Cache. (2, Informative)

flynot2000 (583878) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864651)

Funny damn thing, as the cache links don't go to A9, but are still against Google's cache.

upsell opportunities (1)

mcguyver (589810) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864652)

This is a nice way for amazon to upsell their own products. Do a search on a9.com, click on the Book Results tab and you see links to amazon products. Plus Google is using a9 for adwords distribution. This new search engine is a pretty good opportunity for amazon.

yahoo ? what's that ? (1)

jacquesm (154384) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864655)

Funny in all the 9 years or so that I've been
on the net I don't recall going to Yahoo even
once... Google however, I wouldn't know how to pass a single day without it.

Amazon eh? (2, Informative)

evil-osm (203438) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864656)

Well here's the google cache for it...

Take that!

Hmmm I was going to be funny for a second, but then I tried a9's cache of googles site [a9.com] and got this [216.239.57.104]

Seems that they are using Google's cache, and simply re-directing users to Google.

Meh, I guess thats what a beta is all about.

Re:Amazon eh? (1)

evil-osm (203438) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864676)

Doh! ment to add in there, that I am assuming that they are using Google's engine and haven't gotten everything switched over to their own yet (cache included). I didn't RTFA, so again I am only guessing.

No Image Search? (1)

Anubis333 (103791) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864662)

The thing I use most with Google is the image search. As an artist I need reference photos and things, and it appears A9 doesn't have an image search (how is this possible?). I cannot believe they went live without an image search. IMHO this isn't that great at all.

a9 has a big problem (4, Informative)

cr@ckwhore (165454) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864664)

Ok, so A9 is supposed to be "better" than google? Well, on my first search on a9 just a moment ago, I searched on "amazon sucks" (completely irrelevant to this post) ... and then pressed the "back" button on the search results page. Well, guess what?!?! A9 has a back-button-trap making the "back" button basically useless on their site.

So, they're supposed to be better than google? What about google's clean, simple, no BS web design approach? That's google's value!! Don't you get it Amazon?!?!? Well of course not! Take a direct look at Amazon.com and you'll get an idea of Amazon's design principles.

Will Amazon copy Google's biggest feature? (4, Interesting)

MilenCent (219397) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864671)

To me, the best thing about Google, the reason I'd use it even if they fell down to Xty place in the Search Engine race is simply the announced, honest desire to not do evil.

How unique and wonderful was it when Google released their search engine with no ads, a clean interface, and no loathsome sponsored links? Even when they introduced ads, they made sure they're clearly labeled as such, and made entirely of text.

In short, Google treated me as a person, and not a pair of sticky eyeballs. Meanwhile, Amazon has long been known to be well acquainted with the Not-Not-Evil path -- remember the patent on one-click shopping?

Even Google's missteps have been honest. They have a cookie on their site and probably log searches, and Gmail may have privacy problems, but still, Google is probably the least evil for-profit tech company I know of.

I'll admit that I'm watching Google pretty closely at the moment to see what happens with Gmail, but honestly, so long as they're up front with users about what they're doing and don't try to bury the permission clause in the TOS language, I'm fine with it. I even had an idea for a kind of art project, a voluntary, massive, transparent clipboard sharing project, that I've given serious thought to implementing that would probably be worse than what Google's doing, but I still think it'd be okay so long as the user knows it's a privacy concern ahead of time, and has his attention purposely drawn to it, preferably with big red letters. In fact, for me that'd just increase Gmail's cool factor, as I'm so boring that any federal investigators looking at my mail would only get a good laugh and 100k of spam for their trouble.

um, yeah (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8864675)

A google front-end that changes links into tracking links.

It's no google. (1)

antarctican (301636) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864678)

Certainly interesting at first, but the colours and layout make my skin crawl. It just doesn't seem as instantly usable as Google, it feels cluttered.

Add to that is far slower then Google, yes I know it's being slashdotted right now, but that never slowed down Google.

I'm sorry, this just ain't going to be a winner. Now if Google were to incorperate some of these new features such as detailed site info that might be a good thing.

Nasty Orange Design (1)

Capital_Z (682911) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864684)

What are they thinking making every graphic and headline a shade of the same pukey orange color? Just beacuse they have an orange arrow as part of their logo doesn't require every freakin' thing to be orange!

I won't use A9.com just because I'd become nauseated looking at it.

"Sie Info" Feature and Deskbars (1)

pipingguy (566974) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864685)

Well, since my site still ranks #1 and #2 for the appropriate keywords with A9, I like it.

The "Site Info" rollover is very nice, it gives a bit of pre-click background about the page.

Seems like every search engine is offering some kind of Toolbar/Deskbar these days. Does anyone know if the deskbars are all built on Dave Bau [dqsd.net] 's original open source project?

On Linux, Again (5, Interesting)

AnuradhaRatnaweera (757812) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864688)

Similar to Google [netcraft.com] A9 is running on Linux [netcraft.com] . But isn't it the first time a [major?] search engine [to be?] is running Apache?

Funky search results. (1)

Kenja (541830) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864697)

Searching for my software money pit "Klassy Software" returns the license page for an old product information site for my HTML editor Net Weasel as #1, an old "about us" page as #2, and some rants of mine on Slash Dot as #3. Funky.

Privacy? (2, Insightful)

countach (534280) | more than 10 years ago | (#8864702)

Does anybody really WANT Amazon to be storing our searches on their server forever and a day? Even the "edit history" feature apparently only allows you to "hide" old entries. This sux big time!! I guess it's a marketing ploy.
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