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Intel Ranks Colleges with Best Wireless Access

CowboyNeal posted more than 10 years ago | from the fountains-of-knowledge-where-students-come-to-drink dept.

Wireless Networking 526

newdamage writes "Intel recently released it's ranking of The Most Unwired College Campuses and I was happy to see my school, Purdue, up there at #2. I can personally attest that my laptop w/ wireless card can be used over almost all of the main campus, and there's always a few people in lecture using laptops to access notes and take extra notes. Granted all I've found is that internet access in class just gives me a better way to not pay attention. What are other peoples' experiences with wireless access on their campus? Is there widespread coverage, and if so, does it help you get more school related work done by having your laptop connected where ever you are on campus?"

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what the ding (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8877144)

jared the subwya guy

Offshoring Jobs == Economic Terrorism (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8877233)

pass it on!

Re:Offshoring Jobs == Economic Terrorism (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8877368)

offshoring jobs [test for equality] economic terrorism?

do you mean "offshoring jobs EQUALS economic terrorism" (in which case you would use the assignment operator "="), or are you asking a question and want us to give you the result of the comparison?

if the latter, i believe "Offshoring Jobs == Economic Terrorism" evaluates to FALSE (0).

Re:what the ding (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8877267)

That's not actually to offtopic. Jared went to IU Bloomington.

Man... (1)

NanoGator (522640) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877152)

.. if there's an Animal House reference to be made here, I can't think of it. Curses.

Re:Man... (1)

mr qix (546712) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877210)

Dartmouth is #5... I think you just need to try harder :)

Re:Man... (2, Funny)

FrYGuY101 (770432) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877223)

Don't be too hard on him... he's under double secret probation...

AKA "Which Schools Recommend Centrino" (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8877159)

Although, I do see my former college there, and it's a fairly accurate rank I suppose.

Purdue (0, Redundant)

mikeleemm (462460) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877165)

Cowboy Neal is a Boilermaker? Any feedback from current Boilermakers using it at Purdue?

Re:Purdue (1)

mikeleemm (462460) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877231)

Or is that just NewDamage...

Re:Purdue (1, Redundant)

raygundan (16760) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877382)

Man, I'm feeling old. No such thing when i was at school there-- I remember feeling special my freshman year because we had actual web access. Back when things were shiny and new, and spam was still an evil twinkle in some deviant salesdroid's eye.

Hell, I remember using FidoNet. And I'm really not that old. I wonder what this is all gonna look like in 20 years? If 10 years brings us as far as the last 10 has, i'm gonna be watching streaming HDTV on my cell phone.

Fristy! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8877166)

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MIT = 26? (5, Funny)

matth (22742) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877167)

Wonderful what kind of technology they are teaching there? Obviously not wireless computers :P

Re:MIT = 26? (1)

rffmna (734875) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877196)

Ya, it is ironic considering that college is probably the best technology school in U.S, and maybe the world.

maybe they provide an ethernet port near every student desk?

Re:MIT = 26? (5, Interesting)

ckd (72611) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877225)

Lots of older buildings mean not all of them have wireless coverage yet--but the interactive campus map [mit.edu] shows which ones do. Of course, since that list says MIT is in Boston (it isn't), perhaps they're trying to use WiFi in the old Boston location [mit.edu] , which MIT hasn't used in almost 100 years....

University of Florida (1)

FrYGuY101 (770432) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877169)

As a student at the University of Florida, all I can say is it's no shock that it doesn't even rate in the top 50...

Newer buildings, and some of the larger older buildings and lecture halls, have Wireless, but the majority of the campus, including a couple of large buildings of classrooms, are completely devoid. In a lot of places where there is wireless, it's spotty and has a weak signal...

Re:University of Florida (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8877352)

The only place I ever have a problem is, oddly enough, in the ACM lab in CSE, but I think that's been resolved. Even old buildings like Larson have it now. Where do you have class with no signal?

negative wording (5, Insightful)

qedigital (545151) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877172)

The most UNWIRED? The wording almost makes that sound like a bad thing. Intel should have gone with CowboyNeal's headline.

Re:negative wording (5, Funny)

FrYGuY101 (770432) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877194)

But that would go against Intel's current Centrino marketing! GOD FORBID, you HEATHEN!

*blink* Oh, sorry. Marketing demons possessed me for a second.

Re:negative wording (2, Interesting)

lukewarmfusion (726141) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877316)

My fiancee just read a newspaper article about this, and the article made it sound like it was a bad thing. Almost like the 'journalist' didn't read the actual report or understand the whole wireless concept.

What this means for prospective students (5, Funny)

Spatula Sam (770957) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877174)

is that now they can choose schools based on those that are willing to offer them their porn how they want it, where they want it. And they want it.

Re:What this means for prospective students (1)

Dejitaru Neko (771563) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877303)

I have to admit, the prospect does seem more appealing than paying attention in those gen ed lectures.

Also of interest (5, Informative)

Bobdoer (727516) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877178)

Are the Most Unwired Airports [intel.com] and Most Unwired Cities [intel.com] lists.
Also, do these lists just count wireless access points that Centrino supports? It almost sounds like some sort of propaganda...

Re:Also of interest (3, Interesting)

Kobayashi Maru (721006) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877245)

No. My school (Indiana University, numbero uno) uses mostly Cisco APs; I'm not aware of any Intel products at all, truth be told.

Re:Also of interest (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8877256)

holy crap, my city is #33 (memphis, tn) i had no idea...the only places i ever pick up networks are near the universities and occasionally near a tech business (fedex)

2 from Indiana? (5, Interesting)

archer411 (713916) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877179)

Funny, I never would have thought Indiana would have the top two spots.

Re:2 from Indiana? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8877305)

Boy, you better learn yourself some comp sci history. Perhaps you've heard of this guy here [indiana.edu] .

Re:2 from Indiana? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8877398)

Nope, never heard of him. But Purdue has the first computer science program in the nation [purdue.edu] . Maybe the name "Spaf" [purdue.edu] rings a bell too?

Re:2 from Indiana? (1)

bigbadunix (662724) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877377)

Again,

A case of the midwest being overlooked in terms of all things tech. Just because we're not at the epicenter of Silicon Valley doesn't mean that we're not afforded the luxury of some pretty kick-ass installations.

We have lots of cool stuff here :-)

My school made it! (5, Funny)

jm92956n (758515) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877181)

Sure, we're number 97, but at least we made the list. Take that number 98!

Re:My school made it! (1)

MentlFlos (7345) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877365)

Damnit, I'm number 98!

Poo on you number 99! ;)

Re:My school made it! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8877397)

I find it funny that UCSB, the school I'm in, does'nt have the infrastructure to make it into the top. We have a pretty large ad-hoc networking research group and was one of the early adopters back in '01.

California is so broke..

uhh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8877182)

Thank you sir, may I have another? *Whack* Thank you sir, may I have another?

Such naivete is quite touching! (4, Funny)

exp(pi*sqrt(163)) (613870) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877183)

and there's always a few people in lecture using laptops to access notes and take extra notes.
Er...um...that's a little naive isn't it!

Re:Such naivete is quite touching! (1)

thdexter (239625) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877254)

Heh, seriously... half the time when I see people using laptops in class, they're watching Family Guy or playing poker online. (PartyPoker seems to be the favorite)

Re:Such naivete is quite touching! (0, Offtopic)

josecanuc (91) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877340)

Helter Skelter!!!

(yes, mod me down... I don't care. Props to the quote of one of the greatest bands ever!)

What's next (4, Funny)

mst76 (629405) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877184)

Microsoft ranks colleges with Best Windows/Office/Visual Studio education?

Re:What's next (1)

LordHatrus (763508) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877197)

I've managed to use openoffice and others thru my education, thank you very much :) M$ hates me!

What the heck? (1)

Cyberllama (113628) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877188)

IU and Purdue are numbers one and two, so how come the wireless access at IUPUI (combined IU and Purdue campus in downtown Indianapolis) sucks?

That hardly seems fair. . .

Re:What the heck? (1)

archer411 (713916) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877239)

Administration is waiting for the new building to be completed, and the new dorms. Then they'll be waiting for Mary Cable to be torn down, then for the new building there, then problably they will wait for the new parking garage to be built. But that is just a guess.

Re:What the heck? (1)

Gamma (7069) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877356)

Everywhere I have went on the campus of IUPUI where I wanted to have wireless access, I have had it. Then again, I'm only on campus two days a week. In a classroom on the 2nd floor of Cavanaugh, I saw three access points: 1 was unusable, one was decent 11mbit, the other must have been on top of my head.

http://www.indiana.edu/~uits/telecom/data/waps.h tm l

There's a list of AP's at IUB and IUPUI: Looks like the School of Liberal Arts shelled the funds for AP's before Engineering and Technology, which seems backwards to me.

Huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8877189)

My alma mater is #6 (CMU) and it has COMPLETE 802.11b wireless access from every point on the campus (thanks to some grant...). I wonder what the other 5 have that make them better???? .11g access??

locations (0, Redundant)

name773 (696972) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877190)

gives me a better way to not pay attention
so tell us, where did you post that article from?

As usual.... (1)

fimbulvetr (598306) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877192)

No Denver...

Why does Denver have to suck for tech so much?

We have snowboarding, we have outdoor stuff. We have 4 wheeling, no humidity...

Yet, there is sucky wireless access, and dumbass danceclubs. What's a geek to do?

Time for the greatful dead bars!

College (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8877201)

> from the fountains-of-knowledge-where-students-come-to-drin k dept.

Uh...we're really talking about alcohol, right?

My University is misspelled (3, Funny)

zaphod8829 (754076) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877205)

Number 50 on the list is University if Missouri-Columbus.

I've lived in misery (ahem: Missouri) all my life, and don't know of this college, though I do attend the University of Missouri-Columbia.

(Well, I pay them, anyway. I rarely _attend_.)

I'm not exactly loyal, but damnit, I want my crappy college spelled right!

Re:My University is misspelled (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8877243)

University of Missoury-Columbus is in Ohio.

Re:My University is misspelled (1)

dillb (93797) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877385)

MO = Missouri not Ohio

Offshoring Jobs == Economic Terrorism (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8877216)

Arrest Free Trade Traitor CEOs! Send Michael Dell to Gitmo! No Negotiations with Economic Terrorists!

I always got too distra... eh? (4, Insightful)

Apiakun (589521) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877219)

I don't usually bring my laptop into class, as I find it too distracting, as the submitter of the story mentioned. I found that trying to write notes and any of my own key words to accompany the information were crucial to triggering memories when it came time to remember the information later on. The few times I brought in my laptop, I always ended up doing something else and felt I'd missed some important piece of information during the lecture. Unfortunately I type faster than I can write, so I guess there's a tradeoff.

Re:I always got too distra... eh? (2, Informative)

bishiraver (707931) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877347)

I was afraid I would succumb to the same temptations, so I keep myself in terminal mode (out of X) while in class. I take my notes in nano. If we had wireless access, I think I'd pop into a special school desktop with office products and mozilla firebird at easy access, so I could do a little research during class and back up notes with anecdotal urls.

Northern Michigan Univ (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8877222)

Northern Michigan University is as wireless-accessable as a campus can be. Pretty much every building has wireless in pretty much every spot. The university has also added access points to off-campus student hangouts like the local coffee/bagle shop and the public library. The University has handed out wireless-accessing laptops to every student. We're a large school with over 9,000 students. Northern Michigan University really should be in the top part of the list.

WPI (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8877224)

My college is # 60... 60???????? Its like Nerd Central!

Re:WPI (1)

shaunyb (646779) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877327)

yes, but not all our buildings have wireless. i know the project center building doesnt, and the buildings around it probably dont either.

At Wake Forest University... (4, Interesting)

FooAtWFU (699187) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877226)

At Wake Forest University, rated the #2 Most Wired campus by the Princeton review, the campus-wide wireless network rollout is over the summer. And since half the students' laptops were found to have a defective component which IBM later recalled (and is replacing, starting three days ago and ending in a week) they're installing wireless cards as the machines are repaired.

Since I have housing in the Technology Quarters, I had some experience with the wireless network which was installed here early, but it was only with a PDA and not a full laptop. My room had poor reception, and I couldn't get a signal in any interesting places (like outside on the sun roof or patio). I'm hoping that next year when there's more access points up my new dorm will have better reception, particularly in the nice courtyard area.

Oh, and the network looks unencrypted so far. Which means I'll be checking my email with Pine over ssh. =b

Re:At Wake Forest University... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8877261)

You know about the LocalForward option you can put in $HOME/.ssh/config right?

Alternate Article Title: (2, Interesting)

santos_douglas (633335) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877297)

Most un-secure campus networks

Re:Alternate Article Title: (1)

Gamma (7069) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877390)

I don't know about that. Indiana University has the wireless AP's on a private IP network that cannot route anywhere. You then VPN onto the campus network. The whole session is encrypted with MS PPE as opposed to WEP.

KB: At IUB or IUPUI, using Linux, how do I make a VPN connection to the IU network? [indiana.edu]

Re:At Wake Forest University... (1)

eth00 (612841) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877310)

I am freshman at Wake and we were told that we would have wirless this year. Well as the person above pointed out we are just now getting the wireless almost a year later. I have noticed WAP's all over the school so they should have very good coverage once it is up and running. Wake already gives all freshmen a laptop and replaces it at the begining of the Junior year so when they get this system up and running Wake should get a decent rating. They are also going to redesign the network at the school and this time actually laying it down like a real network :)

Re:At Wake Forest University... (0)

shorti9 (307602) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877410)

Ironically enough, here at UNC Chapel Hill (#52), you can get onto wireless in just about any building on campus, and have been able to for about a year now (and anyplace you can't get on wireless you're no more than a room or two away from 100baseT you can jack into).

It appears that their ranking technique is seriously flawed.

lucky punks (5, Funny)

joe_bruin (266648) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877227)

you kids these days have it all.

back in my day, if you wanted to download porn, you had to wait until your roommate left for class, and then search for it on usenet. and if you got a single download that wasn't corrupt, you'd consider yourself lucky! nowadays with bittorrent and kazaa, life is so easy. if i had wireless access campus-wide, i might have spent alot more time in the classroom (my apartment had the four of us on a single dialup connection).

Speaking for Indiana University (1)

Kobayashi Maru (721006) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877228)

It's nice to see IU on top again. Wireless covers just about every square inch of campus. Granted, service is a bit spotty in Dunn Woods, but come on now! It is nice to be able to find a nice spot in the shade and people-watch. With wireless, I can catch up on email, or IM my friends (some in class, even). It sure beats sitting on the computer *inside*.

Wires (1)

AnomalyConcept (656699) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877229)

As a fellow Purdue student, I can attest to this as well. Our wireless network is virtually everywhere. It is with me when I sleep, when I work, when I... ok, getting carried away. I don't remember the original Matrix quote, sorry. I recall reading about this in the Exponent, and wondering about the wording, "unwired". Wireless would have been a little better, because "unwired" connotes the idea of not even being wired, much less past that. I guess it was chosen to be a part of Intel's Centrino advertisement jingle, "Unwire". What post would be complete without a plug for my school... Boiler Up! =P

Re:Wires (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8877273)

the matrix quote is: "why do my eyes hurt?"
"you've never used them."

Re:Wires (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8877401)

*sigh* Idiot.

"It is there when you watch TV. It is there when you go to work. It is there when you go to church. It is there when you pay your taxes."

I don't have a laptop... (4, Interesting)

feronti (413011) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877230)

But my partners in several group projects do, and they have come in handy many times when brainstorming to quickly assess the feasibility of our ideas right there. Granted, it could also be done in one of the public labs, but it is far more convenient to be able to work anywhere on campus. Plus, you don't have to deal with all the dirty looks from the people in the labs who are trying to concentrate. After just two semesters, I'm convinced, for the first time, that I could put a laptop to good use _as_ a laptop. Unfortunately, that doesn't make me able to afford one:)

Wireless at my University (1)

Will2k_is_here (675262) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877234)

They've taken a fairly decent approach to implementing wireless. While it is by no means campus wide, they've started by offering partial wireless to a specific building, and then full wireless access to the building. The best part is the buldings they started with are the ones comp. sci. students like myself and engineers frequent while it seems like the arts students are going to be last. I laugh at them while they're learning in class and I'm surfing the net. (oh wait, arts students don't learn anything anyways...)

Colleges must be pretty lacking... (4, Interesting)

thdexter (239625) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877235)

My institute, the University of Idaho [uidaho.edu] , made #33, but there's only wireless access in the Commons (like the student union, except more full of offices), the library, and the Administration buildings. Though to be fair there's a bunch of classes in the Admin. The cooler part is that there's IBM laptops available for checkout that are all wireless internet-enabled at both the library and the commons, available in two-hour blocks, with wireless printer access too--makes it easy to get a burger and print off the chemistry pre-lab before you have to go do it, heh.

Re:Colleges must be pretty lacking... (2, Informative)

adamb0mb (68142) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877330)

Actually, at the U of I, almost every building on campus has Wireless Access Points. The only buildings that don't have WAPs are the dorms, because there are 11293840982734 jacks in the building anyways.

If U of I is only #33, I'd really like to see how good these other schools are. There is nothing like taking your laptop out on the lawn, and check your email and stuff.

Good/Bad (2, Interesting)

shadowkoder (707230) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877242)

I find in the classroom, internet access is more-so a distracting thing than a good thing, though not always. However, where it REALLY shines is outdoors and in the cafe type areas (Java Walley's at my school, RIT, comes to mind) where you can socialize, gather a group around, or whatever. In fact, I'm thinking of getting a el cheapo work laptop for this purpose. Getting out of the dorm room and away from instant access to the newest FPS can do a world of good. Overall, yay for wireless!

Way to go Scranton (1)

marshmeli (122728) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877244)

very suprised to U of Scranton there (that is where i go) - we are not wireless at all...

and very happy to see that Bergen-Passaic, NJ on the list and betting NYC...

NJ has many counties on the list (im so proud)

Wireless in the classroom (1)

apok04 (630953) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877247)

Well, I for one use wireless access in the classroom. Hell, I'm sitting in CS 480 right now, reading slashdot instead of paying attention. ;)

Let's go IU! (1)

Loadmaster (720754) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877250)

Yes! My alma mater in there at #1. I can't wait to get back there. . .in 2007.

Damn you enlistment contract! All this just because I didn't want to pay tax on a pack of gum. That dog won't hunt, monseigneur.

Where is UTD? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8877260)

Why isn't University of Texas at Dallas on this list somewhere? Almost every building here has wireless access.

Purdue's wireless... (1)

joemc91 (757436) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877266)

is definitely great, I even get reception at the airport (part of campus, sort of); But it's definitely used to not pay attention. For instance, I'm supposed to be paying attention to a presentation right now.

RHIT (1)

Sheltim (673293) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877276)

I'm kind of surprised. I attend a college that didn't even make the list, but the entire academic part of campus has complete wireless coverage. Unfortunately, it doesn't cover dorms. In every classroom there are quite a few students (in some cases, every student) using laptops for taking notes (or playing games hehe). Of course, my college also requires every student to purchase a laptop when they enroll.

Re:RHIT (1)

cybermace5 (446439) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877383)

I'm a 2002 alumni of RHIT...don't worry about THAT ranking. This ranking [usnews.com] matters a bit more.

However, if you're ranking by wireless coverage, Rose-Hulman isn't going to be too far up there. They really only have a couple wireless access points in the main social areas. There really isn't a NEED for wireless access anywhere else, since practically every desk has had an Ethernet port since before wireless was practical. Plus, it's a small school: providing wireless access to tens of thousands of students is a bit more of an accomplishment.

#23!!! (1)

prinko (714541) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877277)

awesome. my school made #23. we beat MIT. and University of MD, college park, our "flagship campus" isnt even on there. ahh...gloating time!!!

Re:#23!!! UMBC (1)

prinko (714541) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877326)

just adding that im at UMBC, for those too lazy to look up #23, and that i dont have a laptop to use with the wireless network they have here...but hopefully my new pda will get good coverage...

Re:#23!!! (1)

ambienceman (721763) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877393)

UMCP is still a lot better than UMBC

Do these rankings bear any resemblance to reality? (5, Interesting)

Richard Mills (17522) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877280)

I'm a bit puzzled as where they came up with these numbers. I'm a grad student at William & Mary, which they placed in the top 50, and I find that wireless coverage is pretty spotty here. Meanwhile, at my undergrad alma mater U. Tenn, Knoxville, wireless access even covers a bunch of the *agriculture* campus, yet it doesn't make the list at all.

No surprise -- makers of lists like these don't usually attempt to apply any scientific methodology.

Anyone at Auburn? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8877283)

We have one of the few wireless engineering programs, but we dont make the top 100. Not surprising, wireless is only in a few buildings and the connections suck.

Franklin and Marshall College (1)

CharAznable (702598) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877289)

It's nice to see my school in the list. They've had wireless since like the day the first Apple AirPort base station came out, and they deployed it widely pretty much from day one.

Good of bad? (5, Interesting)

Standmic (769361) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877294)

My school (Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute) requires all undergraduates to have a laptop computer, supposedly for use in the classroom. After almost 4 years of this, I'm divided as to whether it is a benefit or just a distraction in class/waste of money (as opposed to buying a desktop)

I have found that in class, all a laptop does is distract the students. Sure, we're supposed to follow along with the notes on our screens, but the prof can't see them. 90% of the time, everyone is surfing the web, talking on IM, checking their email, playing CS, basically everything but paying attention.

Further, most classes don't even require/use a laptop (it's pretty tough to take linear algebra notes on a computer). I estimate that maybe only 20% of classes or less use laptops actually IN class.

Most of the time when your laptop is required for class, it is just a pain to drag it to class, set it up, not use it for anything but to click through powerpoint slides. However, for the few professors who actually design the class with the use of the student's laptops in mind, it can be a great learning tool. It's nice doing in-class activities where you collect data and display it on your computer changing parameters to see the effect; or running simulations were you get to mess with the settings/initial conditions.

On the whole, I wished I could have saved a grand or so and purchased a desktop that could do the same as my laptop (after all, it spends all but 4 hours a week just sitting on my desk). For the, mmm, maybe 2 classes that the professor has actually incorperated the use of laptop into his lecture (same professor for both classes), it was a very powerful tool. Unfortunately, professors who know how to lecture well, especially incorperating a personal computer, are few and far between. An Unwired (or Wired) classroom can either be a great benefit, or a waste of time.

Austin baby! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8877296)

UT is #3 and Austin/San Marcos is #4...we win!

//brain

Re:Austin baby! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8877388)

Too bad UT loses every year in the Red River Shootout to OU. Fuck UT. Oklahoma pwnz your asses.

What are they ranking? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8877300)

The title of the survey is "Most Unwired College Campuses" which is implies a bad thing but just before the list it says:
"Below is a snapshot of the schools that made the grade"

and "made the grade" typically implies a good thing. Also consider the universities on the list.

Are they ranking from best to worst or worst to best? I suspect the former.

What a misleading survey title.

Wireless, overrated. (1)

dj245 (732906) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877312)

I find wireless access to be overrated. I have seldom used it at my college, preferring to use the equally-ubiguous ethernet jacks which are everywhere and even though they are only 10mbit, are faster becuase of signal issues. We have several Access points, at the dining hall and library, and a special wireless link that transmits the internet to our trainish ship, a good quarter mile away.

In a slightly offtopic topic, Wireless access points work surprisingly well on steel ships. The thick hull seems to contain the signal and students don't seem to have trouble. We don't have all that many watertight bulkheads, but certainly there are no really dead spots on the major habitation levels.

In the dining hall, snack bar, etc, places where wired links would be inconvenient, there is wireless, but in classrooms, most of the new desks have ethernet jacks (and 120V AC) built in. The Registrar tries hard to put classes that need laptops in the rooms that have the new desks. Its nice not only to plug into ethernet, but to AC as well. In 6 hours of classes, a 4 hour battery might not make it. Its nice also to crank the screen brightness up and not worry about the battery dying in the middle of something.

Half way there (1)

xplenumx (703804) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877317)

Being 'unwired' is only half the picture. I've worked at universities that had an extensive wireless network, but unfortunately the IT department had the network so restricted that I far prefered to work at home through my personal DSL service. On the otherhand, I've also worked at universities that, while not hosting nearly the wireless network, had an incredible IT department that really knew how to make things easy for me. I'd take incredible IT department over the extensive wireless network any day.

Purdue's wi-fi (2, Informative)

dodongo (412749) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877333)

Yeah, I have to say, Purdue's WiFi, affectionately known as AirLink [purdue.edu] , is pretty cool beans. It was my motivation for purchasing a cheap laptop and putting off upgrading the desktop another year or so.

As long as I shut the damn thing off when I'm in class, it isn't too distracting. It's so fantastic to be able to get a burrito or whatever in the Union, sit, catch up on email, do research (with the purdue.edu IPs it's easy to get into the library's [purdue.edu] online journals and stuff), listen to Air America Radio's [airamericaradio.com] stream, and so on.

If it hasn't made me more productive, I feel more productive, at least. And perception of functionality always trumps actual functionality!

University of Michigan (1)

stienman (51024) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877337)

The business school has had it far longer than any other portion of the main campus. The engineering campus has a decent rollout, but there are many areas where access isn't good.

I take all of my notes on my laptop, and I find it is better for test preparation than paper notes for me. In rooms where I've had network access I don't find it a distraction, but often I'll leave the network card out just to save power. Haven't been doing that recently since I my laptop supports two batteries at once and I get 6+ hours at a charge.

The main benefit is when all the lab computers are taken (which is pretty much all the time) I have not only a computer to work on, but my own environment with everything, including my notes, at my fingertips.

The engineering campus uses a VPN over wireless, so there's great security. The main campus uses no encryption so I try to avoid doing anything sensitive when I'm there.

-Adam -Adam

Oh Yeah? (1)

MikeDawg (721537) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877344)

Oh Yeah? Let's see you're college/university do this. [slashdot.org]

It's not bad at the University of Toronto (1)

RichDice (7079) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877348)

I'm just finishing up my MBA at the University of Toronto, and we aren't even provided with a computer lab anymore. For the past 2 years every MBA student has been required to have their own wireless-enabled laptop.

The wireless network goes beyond just the business school as well. It's the same network all over campus, with the same username/password combo as well as other authentication tokens. Here's a map. [utoronto.ca] [ It's a big campus, solidly-packed with buildings. I'm guessing that what's shown on the map here is a bit over 2 square miles. ]

Of course, the Intel-sponsored school rankings doesn't include "foreign schools", but I've got to say I'm pretty impressed with things here at U of T.

Cheers,
Richard

Ranking Intel Campuses (4, Interesting)

CatGrep (707480) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877362)

Oddly enough, even though Intel is into promoting WiFi, they don't seem to want to encourage WiFi on their own campuses as much as they might.

I've heard that at Intel your manager has to get you permission to use WiFi and your department must pay some sort of ongoing fees to some other group for the priviledge.

UCR (1)

ForestGrump (644805) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877376)

woot! ucr is 16 on the list. Glad my student fees of 1800/yr is going to something useful.

Did I mention 3mbit up/down on the wireless?
aah, I love ***lecture hall (its a secret! if I told you, then the bandwidth would disappear). Has an 11a AP that nobody uses (cuz all the suckers are on 11b)

-Happy Grump

Guelph-Humber (1)

l33t-gu3lph1t3 (567059) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877378)

I'm a 2nd-year at The University of Guelph-Humber in Toronto, Ontario (Canada, eh?). I just helped the IT team here put up and configure our network. It's a small school, ~1600 students next September, 10Mbit ISP pipe distributed among 16 cisco access points on a 4-floor building. Currently running dual 802.11B/G with an incredibly strong signal in all corners of the building.

My university is at the bottom of the heap. (4, Informative)

Entropius (188861) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877381)

I attend the University of Alabama in Huntsville, which has an atrocious track record on networking issues.

Our Network Services department, despite repeated requests from faculty and students, has not set up any sort of wireless coverage anywhere on campus. They also prohibit faculty and students from setting up their own wireless equipment, whether or not it is connected to their network. I am not permitted to put a wireless NIC in my desktop and have it talk to my laptop, even if neither machine is on the campus network.

(I figure that since I'm allowed to use a cordless telephone operating in the 2.4GHz band, Network Services has no right to dictate what other signals I generate in that band.)

Any Slashdotters who are pondering attending this university should think carefully about whether they are willing to accept the complete lack of wireless and consistent 15-25% packet loss on the dormitory connections. (People use dialup because it's more reliable.)

In contrast, a friend of mine in Washington University Law School frequently IM's me from class lamenting how boring class is. (How someone can be bored with a computer (with 3d card) and network access in front of them is left as an exercise to the reader.)

University of Texas (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8877395)

Coverage here at the University of Texas at Austin is very good; everywhere I have gone has wireless access. Except, of course, my dorm room where I have to pay $20/mo for "ResNet" that is frequently down. Everywhere I have been outside of dorm rooms is covered by at least 1 access point, usually several. Also, Austin was ranked well for wireless cities with so many restaurants/stores/public places offering free WiFi that is understandable. I recently drove from a restaurant back to campus with my laptop open and it counted over 300 access points in a 10 minute, 5 mile ride (yes, roads suck in Austin). I know the University is planning on selling wireless access to non-university affiliates in addition to the already franchised students, staff, and faculty, so that will make it easy for visitors to campus to enjoy the wireless, though they might as well bum off of the many cafes around campus for free instead.

Pity it only covers U.S. Universities... (2, Informative)

rune.w (720113) | more than 10 years ago | (#8877405)

Here were I study [iu-bremen.de] in Germany we've got hotspots in almost every classroom and pretty much everybody has a laptop. This is because of the payment facilities given by the Uni (granted, they get sucky models and prices are not so cheap, but I won't get into this or I'll never end this post). Unfortunately few people really use their laptop in class for taking notes. Almost everybody else is using IM/surfing the net/watching movies (!!) during class. Regardless, using your laptop during a boring lecture is much better than falling asleep, IMHO.

Still, I'd be curious to know in which place on the list my university would end up.

R.

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