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To TNG or not to TNG? (5, Insightful)

andyrut (300890) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941706)

I'd be very interested to know if this is going to be a prequel to The Next Generation or to the original Star Trek series. Considering the last number of films were based on TNG, I would personally find it odd to go back to the original series at this point.

Still, the article only refers to STAR TREK, which would indicate that perhaps Kirk and not Picard might be our captain in this one. At least it would be a welcome change from adverts and Miss Congeniality 2 [] for William Shatner.

Re:To TNG or not to TNG? (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8941748)

What you're describing is more or less an ST:Enterprise-era film right?

Re:To TNG or not to TNG? (4, Insightful)

UWC (664779) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941801)

And then there's Enterprise. But it's not over, which I guess would generally mean no movie yet.

It would be pretty hard to do a prequel to the original series without new actors, unfortunately, and Generations pretty much voided any chance of a TNG prequel with the original crew.

There are two other series. A DS9 prequel might actually be interesting.

And then there's the chance that this is a prequel to all of this, but Enterprise seems pretty early in the Trek timeline. Hard to imagine anything interesting happening before that with the Vulcans watching and all.

Re:To TNG or not to TNG? (1)

orrigami (769691) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941863)

I haven't seen the orginals in a while and I was young when I saw them, but didn't the Orginal's with Bill Shatner lead up to the next generation? I have always considered the original movies as the "prequels" to the TNG movies.

I'll KILL that photographer! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8941886)

Dammit, they said : "What happens in Vegas STAYS in Vegas!!!!!" []

Prolly Not TNG (3, Interesting)

millahtime (710421) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941893)

This probubally won't be anything to do with TNG. They had pretty much said they were done with that cast and the movies. Plus the last one didn't do that great at the box office.

Before Kirk there were 2 wars they might cover. One with the Klingons and one with the Romulins. This could provide for some action

Another scenario they had talked about was doing a movie of the Excelusier and Chekov (yes I know I butchered the name)

KHAAAAAN!!!! (1)

Thud457 (234763) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941946)

What about the Eugenics wars of 1996?!!! It can be "Khan Noonien Singh - RISE TO POWER".

Re:Prolly Not TNG (4, Informative)

red floyd (220712) | more than 10 years ago | (#8942014)

That's Sulu who captained the Excelsior, not Chekov.

Re:Prolly Not TNG (4, Funny)

seanmeister (156224) | more than 10 years ago | (#8942020)

".... a movie of the Excelusier and Chekov (yes I know I butchered the name)

They could have a scene where an Excel user drops a VBA worm into Chekov's helmet!

Re:To TNG or not to TNG? (3, Funny)

AndroidCat (229562) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941943)

Willian Shatner pushes Kelloggs' All-Bran [] these days. (Okay, pushes, wrong word!) Still, with the aging Trekkie demographic, perhaps not a bad choice.

How about one of the Capts. BEFORE Kirk! (4, Funny)

spineboy (22918) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941961)

Like Capt. CHristopher Pike! - the guy in the weird motorized wheelchair, with the 2 lights - one for yes and one for no. Maybe they could show how he got into that mess. He seemed to be a good, kick ass, ask questions later type of capt. who got alot of 'poon. Picard was a little too wishy-washy for me. Plus I've met a few high ranking Navy guys (Admirals, etc) and they're much more like Kirk, not like Picard.

Lets face it - we NEED a show with some good space battles, NO cutesy-poo whimps like Wesley, or that Hyena-freak on Voyager. The eugenics wars when Kahn came into power would also be very good to cover - much of the Earth was trashed.

Prequel? Oh boy... (5, Interesting)

jrj102 (87650) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941708)

While the typos and spelling errors in the article were entertaining ("STAR TRKE" and "the future of their first series remains in limo") I'm not sure what to make of this. When they talk "prequel" are they talking about Pre-Enterprise? It seems like any earlier and there wouldn't be much opportunity to explore other species, etc. Can a Star Trek movie without existing characters/actors be successful? I mean Nemesis [] , which was based on the much-loved TNG crew, made about $53 at the box office. (OK, that might be a slightly low estimate.)

I think a Starfleet Academy movie (mentioned in the article) could be compelling, but I'm losing interest in the whole franchise. I'd like to see another season of Enterprise despite the fact that it's a fairly weak show (in my opinion) but I think that Gene Roddenberry's vision is running out of gas without his input. I have mixed feelings: on one hand, Trek has gotten pretty lame, and it is probably time for them to stop producing it for a while, but on the other hand I'd miss even bad Trek... Is bad Trek better than no Trek at all? Am I even making any sense? :)

Drooling fanboys will be happy to read this line from the article, though:

"...insiders suggest Berman and/or Braga might take a reduced role in a fourth season of ENTERPRISE, though this is entirely speculation."

--- JRJ

Re:Prequel? Oh boy... (1)

radixvir (659331) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941898)

I agree with the part about Roddenberry. His input into TNG i think made it the great series it was. Nowadays it seems like these Trek shows and movies are all about special effects and 'coolness'. personally my favorite part of TNG was when it touched on philosophy. I guess the summary is: im not expecting much from these new productions

Re:Prequel? Oh boy... (-1, Troll)

Anthony Boyd (242971) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941900)

"...insiders suggest Berman and/or Braga might take a reduced role in a fourth season of ENTERPRISE, though this is entirely speculation."

Stop. You're making my tummy feel all giddy inside.

Re:Prequel? Oh boy... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8941902)

You're right, it really depends how they're defining "prequel" - if it's Enterprise-based (or before) that's one thing, but if it's a prequel in the sense of pre-B&B involvement with the TNG movies, that's quite another.

It would be interesting to see what they could do with the pre-TNG "Lost Era", however there is currently a series of ST books covering that which is quite well done, so if they trod all over them (as they tend to do) that would stink...

Enterprise (3, Insightful)

addie (470476) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941914)

While I do read /. everyday, and I am very aware that the general relevant population doesn't think much of Enterprise, I have to respectfully disagree. Take last night's new episode as an example: Archer attacked and stormed a totally innocent ship because he needed their warp coil; T-Pol turns out to be a drug addict! These are things that NEVER would have happend on the original Trek or on TNG. The writers are finally writing morally fallible characters, and I for one am thrilled.

That said, a prequel has MUCH more potential to be good than another sequel. They can have the Klingons be evil again (who wouldn't want that?). Technology wouldn't be as advanced, which makes easy-outs of plot points harder to resolve, and hence more interesting. The federation isn't as strong, which also opens up more complex plot possibilities.

I think this is the best announcement for Trek fans in years. Nemesis was simply awful, and I'd hate to see the Data v2 re-learning how to paint, play violin, or some such garbage. Old can sometimes be new again!

Re:Prequel? Oh boy... (4, Insightful)

spellraiser (764337) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941915)

Prequel, huh?

There are only two words that spring to mind when I hear that word:


The horror, the horror ...

Re:Prequel? Oh boy... (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941918)

Trek ran out of gas a long time ago, any additional impulse applied to trek has been provided by the legions of fanboys (and girls) pushing it up hills.

Bad trek is better than no trek at all to the fanbeings, irrelevant to the average person, and worse than no trek at all to sci-fi fans who are not also trek fans, because it will simultaneously lower the bar and further damage what is an already confused and inconsistent canon.

I have frosty piss (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8941709)

And it burns like a mofo!!

Frist Prost (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8941716)

At it again! I hope they don't track by IP...

OK (1, Funny)

jabbadabbadoo (599681) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941721)


Hhmmm - like a beta version? Perhaps the mother ship will blow up like my motherbord did the other day...

Almost. (1)

hot_Karls_bad_cavern (759797) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941850)

It'll be Kirk and Co. in their teen years and played by ub3rhot 23-27yr olds that "look" teenaged.

godbless, i hope they don't fuck this up and make it some heap marketed at the same crew Skulls 1 though what? 7, 8?

*sigh* please don't ruin it!!!

Re:OK (1)

nacturation (646836) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941868)

Perhaps the mother ship will blow up like my motherbord did the other day...

You mean your motherborg?

Cochran to Enterprise eh? (4, Insightful)

mschiller (764721) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941723)

Potential to suck: 75%
Potential to be Great: 25%

Re:Revised numbers (1)

Rosyna (80334) | more than 10 years ago | (#8942018)

If Berman is on the team potential to suck is 98% (2% ok factor). If he has nothing to do with it whatsoever, potential to suck is 20% (80% potential to own Kirk's sweet ass).

Script Excerpts (3, Funny)

damiena (263598) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941731)


Re:Script Excerpts (5, Funny)

jrj102 (87650) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941784)

You know, I've always had a fantasy that someday, people will yell my name as Shatner yelled "Khhaaaaannnnnnn!!!!" however, I've yet to piss someone off enough to inspire such beautiful overacting. :)

Re:Script Excerpts (3, Funny)

lazuli42 (219080) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941959)


I hope you're happy now.

Re:Script Excerpts (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8941791)

No.....that is....not.....inthescript. Youarethinking...of......The....Wrath.......ofKahn .

Re:Script Excerpts (1)

WormholeFiend (674934) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941952)

Re:Script Excerpts (1)

Cowboy Bebop (540969) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941991)

i can't believe someone wasted 14.95 at dotster and 2 hours and 55 minutes learning enough flash and stealing .wav clips via google just for that! i mean, i bet that's about how long it'd take.

In other news (0, Redundant)

PrvtBurrito (557287) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941736)

In other news, /. confirms that it will suck.

Re:In other news (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8941912)

In other news (Score:0, Redundant)
by PrvtBurrito (557287) on Thursday April 22, @02:53PM (#8941736)

In other news, /. confirms that it will suck.

I wanted to save this moderation for posterity.

Star Trek On Earth (1)

Space_Soldier (628825) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941738)

Before the Federation, you have Star Trek: Enterprise. Before that, you have Earthlings trying to discover Warp speed, after a war on Earth.

In other news (5, Insightful)

Sean80 (567340) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941741) reports that sources close to Berman cryptically referred to the movie as "more of the same old crap from the same old people."

Why, oh why, do they continue to insist on beating this dead horse into the dust? I'm as big a Star Trek fan as anybody, but it's gone way too far away from its roots, and quite frankly the last couple of movies have sucked so hard that I can't stand thinking about what they're going to bring out next.

Long live TNG on DVD.

Re:In other news (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8941835)

I'm as big a Star Trek fan as anybody, but it's gone way too far away from its roots, and quite frankly the last couple of movies have sucked so hard that I can't stand thinking about what they're going to bring out next.

I just pretend the last 2 movies never happened. Insurrection and Nemesis sucked hard, but First Contact was pretty good if you pardon the fact that they seem to be able to slingshot around the sun and travel through time whenever they want.

Re:In other news (1)

millahtime (710421) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941926)

"Long live TNG on DVD."

Gotta love spike tv. They have TNG on every day.

Re:In other news (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941955)

If you were truly as big a Star Trek fan as "anybody" you wouldn't be complaining. You'd be looking for your spirit gum so you could attach your spock ears and go cavort in the streets.

Re:In other news (5, Funny)

AragornSonOfArathorn (454526) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941971)

Why, oh why, do they continue to insist on beating this dead horse into the dust?

Because each time they whack the horse's corpse, it coughs up another wad of hundred-dollar bills.

Long live TNG on DVD.

I agree. I need to invest. TNG was the best series by far.

Re:In other news (2)

lambent (234167) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941992)

So, the thing that made the movies bad is the thing that made the series good? 2D characters, recycled schlock sci-fi plots, and thinly-veiled, weak one-sided political statements?

I loved TNG. I loved the movies. I didn't go into it expecting "The Ten Commandments" in space, or anything ... it is what it is.

I'm trying to think of the Trek analogue to "Strike me down, and I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine", but memory fails me ... so I will simply say, in the latest popular cliche fashion,


The truth is, hollywood will continue to make crappy movies. Considering that the nemesis budget was reportedly 99 million dollars (99 mega space bucks?), and it only brought in 43 (incidental googling: nemesis numbers [] ) , i wouldn't've bet on another one being made anytime soon.

However, I will go see it when/if it comes out, and any other star trek ever made, because truly, I am a fan boy.

Re:In other news (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8941993)

Star Trek definately needs new blood in the writer/producer department. The current bunch have been 'stuck in a rut' for quite sometime. And I sooo tired of the girl/boy adolencent themes. This is *not* while I watch Scifi (any bets on the number of episodes before T'Pol has bonked *every* member of the enterprise crew at least once. Boy I never saw that coming.)

Re:In other news (5, Insightful)

Sean80 (567340) | more than 10 years ago | (#8942012)

I can't believe I'm getting troll votes for this.

The wonderful thing about science fiction is that, imho, it isn't really about science at all. Instead, it gives writers an opportunity to change small (or large) details about the world around humans, and see how they react. So, SF is all about humans at the end of the day. For a while, Star Trek understood that. Almost all of the first series understood that, with wise old Gene at the helm. TNG understood that as well, which is why "The Inner Light" is one. of. the. best. damn. episodes. of. any. series. ever.

Berman and his band of merry idiots don't understand this simple fact. I remember reading an article in which he said something like: "Star Trek fans loves aliens and time travel."

Star Trek 2, 4 and 6 understood that it's all about the people. First Contact was good because it was so damn cool, and nobody can dislike anything with the Borg in it.

So yeah, if I have simply lost interest in Star Trek because Berman wants to fill every movie with "aliens" and "time travel" then troll me.

NCC-1701C (5, Interesting)

DamienNightbane (768702) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941742)

I'd hope that it's a prequel to TNG. Rachel Garret needs her own series and movies.

Re:NCC-1701C (1)

jrj102 (87650) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941887)

I agree-- I think that the time between TOS and TNG is ripe for new Trek. Alternatively, just move forward another couple hundred years.


Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8941950)

She dies. There's no real mystery to her character. I'd rather they just give Sulu his show.

woo! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8941745)

Anakin Meets Archer! Long live prequels! Natalie Portman's hot grits VS T-Pao!

Film! (1)

llamaguy (773335) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941746)

Beam me up Mr Spock! I gotta find me a cinema...

*cough*Anyway, the film is most likely going to feature the crew from the latest series of Enterprise, complete with zipped up jumpsuits and chrome backgrounds. Cool.

Even/Odd (2, Interesting)

Neil Blender (555885) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941749)

Will this be Star Trek 0? And thus not subject to the even/odd curse? I guess the film will probably be not too bad, not too good.

What did Spock find in the toilet? (5, Funny)

SpermanHerman (763707) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941763)

Captains Log ...


Re:What did Spock find in the toilet? (2, Funny)

The Other White Boy (626206) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941849)

..informative? did somebody misclick?

on topic, i laughed. =)

Re:What did Spock find in the toilet? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8941933)

So Spock found the captain's log and Herman's sperm? Kinky!

Article Text (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8941764)

Rick Berman: "Prequel" Film in the Works, Plus Developing New Series With Braga

By Steve Krutzler / 12:42, 22 April 2004 / General Star Trek

After over a year of silence on the future of the STAR TREK feature film franchise, producer Rick Berman has finally dropped the first hints of a new theatrical project for the franchise. The news comes in the new issue of Dreamwatch magazine, just coming out in the UK.

Speaking in issue #117, Berman confirms for the first time that he is now developing a STAR TREK feature film project: "I am involved in the very early stages of what could be the next STAR TRKE movie," reveals Berman, in an excerpt provided by Dreamwatch. "It's something I will be producing with two other producers."

Unwilling to offer many details he cryptically describes it as "a prequel" without any further elaboration. The names of his producing cohorts will have to remain unknown for now, as well. This follows a report earlier this week from Dark Horizons that Paramount may be working on a project the site described as "Starfleet Academy." Coincidentially, former TREK producer Harve Bennett (STAR TREKs II-VI) revealed recently that several years ago he had pitched a Starfleet Academy-based STAR TREK movie concept.

On the television front, while the future of their first series remains in limo, Berman confirms that he is developing a non-STAR TREK sci-fi series with partner Brannon Braga. Both Berman and Braga have development deals with Paramount. If a new series begins development in earnest, TrekWeb insiders suggest Berman and/or Braga might take a reduced role in an adults-only supermarionation version of ENTERPRISE, though this is entirely speculation.

For the full interview and much more, check out issue #117 of Dreamwatch magazine in the United Kingdom.

"Starfleet Academy" (1)

target562 (623649) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941842)

Am I the only one who thinks something along the lines of the ever popular Police Academy films would be an appropriate "wrap up" to the franchise?

Oh great, a PREQUEL! (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8941767)

Because we all know how well he's done with the current prequel series Enterprise. I'm sure this will be a homerun. Look, I understand various people (Stewart, Spiner, etc) want a lot of money/don't really want to be involved... that's fine. But there are enough people that do, and enough ways to craft a story. Captain Riker in charge, Dr. Bashir in the data role (perhaps as an Intelligence Officer or something). Maybe a plot about those parasite things that TNG never followed up on. Perhaps Riker finds out his clone Tom is still alive, and they need to go rescue him? There are lots of options that don't require prequels.

Should be good (1)

KlomDark (6370) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941780)

Captain Kirk as a little kid called Annie who grows up to be.

Oh wait...

Re:Should be good (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8941984)

Here I was thinking, "Annie? That's a retarded name for a little boy..." Then I realized what you were referring too. :-(

Blah (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8941785)

Christ Berman sucks.

In related news... (5, Funny)

IshanCaspian (625325) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941793)

...they announced plans to dig up Gene Roddenberry's corpse and kick it around in the street. Sources close to the production crew said they were in the market for dead horses and clubs.

Re:In related news... (5, Funny)

nacturation (646836) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941990)

I think that's part of the plot. Gene Roddenberry's corpse is spinning so fast in his grave that it's causing frame dragging [] . The distortions in space-time open up a wormhole to the future. The Enterprise crew goes to investigate this effect and hilarity ensues.

This is going to require some time in makeup (4, Funny)

jim_b (179273) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941794)

Prequel .... So... shatner with hair and Nemoy accidentally emoting all over the place?

Prequal (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8941798)

Has there ever been a good prequal?


Re:Prequal (1)

grub (11606) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941848)

Sheesh, at least you didn't spell "ever" as "evar"...

Re:Prequal (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8941853)

Yeah, I got pre-qualled for a credit card. That was pretty good.

Re:Prequal (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8941942)

Godfather part two was about half prequel.

Re:Prequal (1)

trash eighty (457611) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941973)

Infernal Affairs II, Young & Dangerous : The Prequel

I've seen the rushes and they're cool! (5, Funny)

heironymouscoward (683461) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941804)

The entire crew of the Enterprise is still at school and Spock Jr is being bullied by ignorant full-blooded humans when Jamie Kirk leaps to the rescue and saves Spock Jr who says "you humans are so emotional. on my planet i would have left myself to be beaten to a bloody pulp". Jamie Kirk then kicks Spock jr in the groin, rips off his shirt and makes out with one of the local girls.

What they really need (3, Insightful)

Thud457 (234763) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941808)

What "Star Trek" really needs is another EIGHTEEN YEAR HIATUS so that it can recharge its energies.

But that'w what I said when "DS9" started...

A prequel to a prequel? (3, Funny)

AtariAmarok (451306) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941813)

They've already gone way far back in history to do "Enterprise". A prequel before that? I know. They can do a movie about the world before the first starships were launched. About modern-day people who dream of the day when dilithium crystals will be real real, you could make love to real Romulans instead of inflated ones, and tribbles were not made of cloth.

They could call this film... "Trekkies".

Sorry. forgot. someone already did this.

How about Star Trek: Borg War (4, Funny)

numbski (515011) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941817)

Have TNG, DS9, and Voyager casts on hand, tell a story about the Borg finally getting fed up and invading federation space wholesale.

You want to see money fly? Have Q amusing himself by bringing the Borg there. :P

Re:How about Star Trek: Borg War (5, Insightful)

Mike Markley (9536) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941979)

Why bother? Berman and Braga already neutered the Borg anyway. If the last half of Voyager is any indication, all they need to do is bring Admiral (*gag*) Janeway out to modulate the field density and penetrate the shields, or something.

No, the Borg are just as ruined as most of the rest of the franchise at this point, and cramming all the casts into one movie screams of a pitiful attempt at fan service: "We can't deliver a decent movie, so we're just gonna throw characters at you; one of these must be your favorite!"

As many others have said, Trek needs a long break. With any luck, it'll be able to lie dormant until Rick Berman dies a horrible death.

DS9 (1, Insightful)

eberry (84517) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941828)

I for one want a DS9 movie. I am currently watching the entire series via Netflix, but I am down to the last two seasons.

If they start working on a DS9 movie right now, I will forgive them for that lame ST: Enterprise episode last night. I can only take so much of the same plot. Which is one reason I don't watch 24.

Not so bad.... (0)

EpsCylonB (307640) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941829)

I would much rather have another movie than another formula tv series, TNG was good, but basically repeating it over and over is really starting to damage star trek as a whole.

And I actually enjoyed Nemesis [] , sure in some ways it ripped off the wrath of khan, but if you are going to copy any ST movie then you copy the best.

Why do you torture us so? (5, Funny)

Bronz (429622) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941833)

Don't you know the tastes of the many outweigh the tastes of the few, or the none?

Computer (1)

jwitch (731255) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941839)

"Computer, delete Paris" -- The Doctor "What are you doing?!?" -- Ensign Kim "Computer, delete Kim" -- The Doctor "Computer, Slashdot" -- Slashdot editors "Afirmitive" -- The Computer

I hope the guy from Enterprise… (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8941843)

...gets to do the soundtrack. I can't get enough of that Enterprise theme.

Pre? (4, Interesting)

AmicoToni (123984) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941847)

I still find the idea of prequels in Star Trek rather silly. In Star Wars there was a storyline, so in that case it might have made some sense, but Star Trek?
The only result is that they can show *less* technological tricks, *less* alien species, and, importantly, *less* developed Star Trek ideals and moral conflicts.
No Prime Directive? No teleporting?
I would find much more appealing a series or a movie some two-hundred years *after* TNG, instead...

/.ed (4, Funny)

ColdZero (668801) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941855)

The web servers canna take much more of this capt'n

Geroge Lucas REVENGE (3, Funny)

Prince Vegeta SSJ4 (718736) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941857)

no prequels, no more please. After Star Wars Prequels it can't possibly get worse (can it?). You can't have a Kirk w/o Shatner - and please do not bring him back (at this age and weight) either.

What kind of story will it be?

Star Trek: 0.5 - The Trouble With Jar Jar, think of all the horrible possibilities! With only a modicum of chance for success.

Kzinti first contact (2, Interesting)

AtariAmarok (451306) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941884)

Count me in, as long as it is about first contact with the Kzinti. (For those of you who do not know what they are, just read it and do not say it. They are NOT Xindi!)

Flogging it to death (2, Insightful)

fiannaFailMan (702447) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941885)

I wish they'd let this franchise lie for about ten years, it needs a break. They're scraping the bottom of the barrel for stories and recycling old ideas. The last TNG film was a bit disappointing. I mean, there was no credible motivation for the bad guy to want to destroy life on earth, so after the movie I was left wondering what was all the fuss about?

I wish they'd eventually do a Babylon 5 job on this, i.e. plan a series with a big story that develops over five seasons. When watching the likes of TNG and Voyager I got the impression that they were making this stuff up as they went along. Like adding a character called 'Kes' to Voyager and just seeing where it went. It went nowhere and they had to ditch her in favour of a Borg with a fit body and big tits. (I'm not complaining about that BTW!)

Sure DS9 and Voyager had _some_ continuity, but nothing profound. The only shocking thing that ever happened in Voyager was the Seska character who was on the ship for the longest time but turned out to be a Cardassian agent in disguise.

Oh well.

Re:Flogging it to death (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8941922)

DS9 had the most continuity of any series, especially if you go back and rewatch it. Sure, they were kinda adding stuff as they went along at the beginning, but after a few seasons, they actually did have a pretty good idea where they were headed.

Ron Howard (1)

AtariAmarok (451306) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941931)

I thought the cooking alien with a head that looked like a cross between a basketball and Ron Howard was kind of cool, but what do I know.

Star Trek IV was the ultimate ST prequel (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8941889)

I mean it went back as far as the late 1980's!

Odd or even? (1)

eddy (18759) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941890)

So this would be movie -1? It's the odd ones that's supposed to be good, right?

Stop beating a dead horse... (4, Funny)

B5_geek (638928) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941896)

I wish they would let this once noble francise just die.

A Prequel. Egads! Could that mean Scott Bakula meets Kirk? Lots of CGI will be needed to remove 200lbs from the now-flabby Shatner.
They might even waste the whole CGI budget on keeping Kirk trim. Let's just pray that Data is dead for good. Ohh look I'm an ass now that I have emotions.

I never got a chance to watch Farscape, and honestly I don't think much will ever match Babylon 5 for depth and quality.

Star Fleet Command? (5, Informative)

miket01 (50902) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941903)

Dark Horizons recently posted this tidbit in regards to current development at Paramount [] (emphasis mine):

Seeking Writers: "Pro Nanny, "Au Pair", "Paranoia", "Star Fleet Command", "Stranger in a Strangeland", "Homeland Security", Peter Weir's "War Magician", Tony Scott's "Warriors" and an untitled Johnny Knoxville project

"B&B Really Excited" (4, Funny)

hoggoth (414195) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941907)

Sources close to Berman and Braga say that "they are really excited about this new project. They have some really hot ideas mainly from their marketing departments. This 'prequel' will use the 'Freaky Friday' story and give it a fresh new take with the cast of the hit series 'Enterprise'." Berman is quoted as saying "there's a lot of life left in the universal story of a young hip teen switching places with an older cranky Starship Captain."

Plot Overview (2, Funny)

weeboo0104 (644849) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941913)

Several hundred years in the future, geeks will successfully use time travel to travel back in time and kill Rick Berman before he has a chance to destroy the Star Trek canon.

Somewhere in the story, the governer of California is going to be involved too. (You vill be Ahhhhsimulaht, Ahhsimu...Ahhsim. Vot the hell, you vill be TEHHHHMANATED!)

If they just gotta... (1)

0x0000 (140863) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941924)

If they've just gotta keep remaking this tired old shite, perhaps they could go back to the point at with earth actually gets off-planet. The original series pretty well glossed over that, imo.

Perhaps they could give us late-period, in-system settings of gundgy mining colonies and aging space stations scattered around the solar system. Throw in a little terra-forming a la Kim Stanley Robinson.

If I gotta sit thru another Kirk/McCoy/Kahn debacle, I think I'll barf. Why the hell can't starship officers age gracefully?

.... and one more time for you Hollywood morons: THERE IS NO SOUND IN SPACE! Starships, fighters, etc, explode in silence. Get used to it.

Ender's Game? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8941932)

"Starfleet Academy", huh?

One has to wonder (doesn't one?) if they're going to try to play off of the upcoming Ender's Game movie hype.

sorry to say this, but... (5, Insightful)

shams42 (562402) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941937)

IMO the Star Trek universe is out of gas. There's nothing to see here. Move on.

It's sad, because I've always loved Star Trek. But I realized the truth when I saw the latest installment in the theater, which in my opinion was nothing but a bad rehash of The Wrath of Khan.

But then, I guess this is a sign of the times. Lately it's seemed to me that we as a culture are running low on creativity. I don't ever remember a time when so many sequels and so few original films were released. And of course, people flock like lemmings to see the latest rehash of whatever. I haven't heard an original musical group in what seems like years. I'm sure there are indie groups that I've never heard of that are doing great stuff, but the mainstream... I guess the latest thing is for bands like The Darkness to resurrect the same lame ass hair metal that Nirvana wiped off the face of the earth. And most of the the rock music that I've heard in the last couple of years has been variations on the Korn theme... detuned guitars and shameless lyrics about childhood trauma. Hey asshole, you're rich -- go get some therapy and get the hell over it!

Anyway, I know I've drifted a bit off topic, but I see this as another attempt to squeeze the every last penny out of what used to be a great franchise by driving it even deeper into the ground. All to avoid, *gasp*, coming up with something ORIGINAL! But no, that would be too risky. Let's just serve up another plate of leftovers.

Thanks to The Korea Herald for its article regardi (1)

NessusRed (710227) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941938)

Thanks to The Korea Herald for its article regarding the battle for the massive Chinese online gaming market. Apparently, "Korean companies controlled more than 70 percent of the Chinese online game market last year in terms of revenue", but: "Last July, China's Ministry of Culture imposed a new regulation on 'Internet culture supervision,' which forces online games and all other programs transacted via the Internet to be reported to the ministry for content supervision." Due to this move, "foreign Internet content providers... [are] required to earn an ICP (Internet content provider) license... NCsoft has not received its license for 'Lineage II' as of yet." In conclusion, it's actually suggested that "worst-case scenario would be a quota on the import of foreign games, according to some analysts."

Rick Berman is my hero. (1)

Fantastic Lad (198284) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941951)

He's not even a little bit lower-functioning.

Honest. It's just the drugs.


Enterprise C (3, Interesting)

Omega1045 (584264) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941967)

It would be nice to see some more of the backstory on the Enterprise C. They could even involve the actors from TNG episode - don't remember the title but it was a parallel universe one with Tasha back alive...

Oi vey... (1)

gordgekko (574109) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941983)

Unlike other people I have to admit that I've enjoyed Enterprise, particularly this season. The mission to stop the attack on Earth has been, for the most part, fairly interesting. If they could develop a compelling story to base a prequel movie on, I could see myself watching it. More than I can say about the last couple of movies.

That said, ST movies tend to suck. What was the last good one...Undiscovered Country maybe?

Re:Oi vey... (1)

UWC (664779) | more than 10 years ago | (#8942023)

I really enjoyed First Contact. Great movie for fans and those new to the series. I saw it for the first time in quite a while on some HBO channel recently. The first few minutes, leading up to and including the battle with the Borg cube near Earth, were amazing to me, and I'm not entirely sure why. Great movie, though.

Slashdot speed, Scotty! (3, Funny)

dacarr (562277) | more than 10 years ago | (#8941986)

In other news, the Trekweb site was brought to its knees at a factor of warp 4.

Bring back Sulu (1)

Sergeant Beavis (558225) | more than 10 years ago | (#8942019)

'nuff said.

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