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100GB, 9.5mm thick HD from Toshiba

CmdrTaco posted more than 10 years ago | from the thats-a-whole-lotta-nekkid dept.

Data Storage 269

zmcnulty writes "Toshiba has announced their new hard drive today with a 100GB capacity. It's a 2.5 inch drive, is only 9.5mm tall, and supports ATA/100. The (Japanese) Impress Watch article I translated offers a couple more details, though not many. The OEM sample price is about $1,092 USD...but don't ask me what that means for consumers. The previous capacity title was held by IBM with their 80GB Travelstar."

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269 comments

fp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8942909)

fp

Funny thing (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8942912)

Here in the US, it's always 'how big your dick is'. I guess in Asia, it would make sense the other way around.

Recent E-mails (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8943016)

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Remember, Kids! (5, Funny)

American AC in Paris (230456) | more than 10 years ago | (#8942914)

It's not the size or the thickness that counts--it's the speed with which you can spin it and still read what's on the surface.

Wait...

Re:Remember, Kids! (4, Interesting)

cozziewozzie (344246) | more than 10 years ago | (#8942961)

This drive will be important for laptop users. Currently 60GB on a laptop is considered good, 80GB a luxury. The laptops have displays, processors and RAM to match the desktop computers, but HD capacity is one area where they're severely lacking. It's nice to see that Toshiba is pushing the envelope here.

20% lower power consumption's nice too! (3, Insightful)

billstewart (78916) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943043)

Dropping the power consumption by 20% sounds like a win.

Re:20% lower power consumption's nice too! (5, Informative)

Tenebrious1 (530949) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943146)

Dropping the power consumption by 20% sounds like a win.

Well, it doesn't hurt, but it's not a huge deal. When I'm unplugged and working, the hard drive is sitting idle so lowering power consumption doesn't significantly affect battery life.

Now, having a low power DVD player would be much better, watching movies really sucks the life out of a battery.

Of course, with a 100GB drive, I can finally store a decent number of movies on the drive. Still, it'd be better to store movies in smaller sections, load up to a RAM disk and watch from there instead of keeping the drive spinning.

Re:20% lower power consumption's nice too! (2, Insightful)

justMichael (606509) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943237)

Unfortunately @ 4200 rpm it's going to be slooow.

If I could find a 7200 rpm drive that didn't destroy the battery life in my PowerBook I would be very happy.

Re:20% lower power consumption's nice too! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8943273)

Wow if I could only find a 10GHz P4 that only required 2W to operate!

Re:20% lower power consumption's nice too! (5, Insightful)

shamino0 (551710) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943341)

Unfortunately @ 4200 rpm it's going to be slooow.

If I could find a 7200 rpm drive that didn't destroy the battery life in my PowerBook I would be very happy.

Which brings to mind an interesting idea. I wonder if anybody's tried making a hard drive with a variable-speed spindle. Provide a bunch of speeds that your operating system can select from. So you can run at 4200 RPM (or maybe even slower) when you're on batteries and spin up to 7200 when you're plugged into an external power source. Make it configurable through a power-management control panel.

Given that drives already have power modes where they completely turn off at times, this might not be a big stretch for an HD company to design.

One question: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8943099)

Why the heck would anyone need this capacity on a laptop? Storing their gargantuan mp3 and porno collection to impress the stewardesses?

Honestly, outside of digital video, that much storage is useless, and for DV editing, it's not really enough, anyhow. Especially considering it's not going to be nearly as fast as a 10,000RMP SCSI drive, and even more so VS. a SCSI or FC RAID.

Who's the target audience for a thousand dollar 100Gig laptop drive? I just don't see it.

Re:One question: (1)

garglblaster (459708) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943352)

Honestly, outside of digital video, that much storage is useless, ..

Reminds me of something I heard recently (late 80ies):

640kB should be enough for anybody

who said that again..?

Re:Remember, Kids! (4, Interesting)

Neon Spiral Injector (21234) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943185)

Capacity is half of the problem with laptop drives. But data through-put is just as big. Sure this has an ATA-6 interface, but what is the actual sustained data transfer rate? With a rotational speed of only 4,200 RPM, I'm betting it is pretty poor. The latency of 12ms seeks won't help much either.

I'm running 15,000 RPM drives in my desktop machine with average seek times right around 3ms. No wonder laptops seem so many times slower when loading a program from disk.

Re:Remember, Kids! (3, Funny)

MrRuslan (767128) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943141)

I heard IBM is going to Incorparate the VIAGRA technology into there travelstars to compete with Toshibas Drive Enchancment technology....

Drive enhancement technology (1)

corngrower (738661) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943368)

Viagra? I thought it was Levitra. I hear that'll extend the life up to 4 hours.

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Re:new hd (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8943225)

Are there any efnet servers that haven't juped you guys yet? Everytime I try to join I get g-lined :-(

Re:new hd (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8943235)

I think I'd rather have the GNAA back than this.

The next gen i-pod... (3, Interesting)

ThomasFlip (669988) | more than 10 years ago | (#8942927)

better start saving.

Re:The next gen i-pod... (1)

Chuck Bucket (142633) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943050)

why was this marked as troll? I am really wondering about the mental abilities of some of the moderators here...

VCS

Re:The next gen i-pod... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8943089)

I, for one, won't start saving until they come out with a replaceable battery...

Obsolete already (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8942930)

S-ATA is in the hizouse!

Re:Obsolete already (1)

LordHatrus (763508) | more than 10 years ago | (#8942983)

Doesn't matter if technology is a step backwards 'speed wise' ... It can still be a step forward in general.

You can tell a lot about a man... (2, Funny)

de_boer_man (459797) | more than 10 years ago | (#8942936)

...by the size of his hard drive.

Re:You can tell a lot about a man... (1)

ThomasFlip (669988) | more than 10 years ago | (#8942979)

such as ?

Re:You can tell a lot about a man... (5, Funny)

dildatron (611498) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943013)

how much porn he has

Re:You can tell a lot about a man... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8943036)

I love the United States of America. Do you?

no

Re:You can tell a lot about a man... (2, Informative)

ThomasFlip (669988) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943137)

yeah but thats not really that funny

Re:You can tell a lot about a man... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8943231)

It's much funnier with punctuation.

Re:You can tell a lot about a man... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8943026)

how large the man's genitals are?

Re:You can tell a lot about a man... (1)

de_boer_man (459797) | more than 10 years ago | (#8942997)

If it has to be explained, that's pretty telling too.

Re:You can tell a lot about a man... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8943224)

Often the man with the larger hard drive actually has the smallest storage.

fp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8942938)

biatch

YOU FAIL IT (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8942969)

d00d

nice! (1)

Chuck Bucket (142633) | more than 10 years ago | (#8942941)

that's a spicy meatball! in all seriousness, how long until this is priced and packaged to sell in an OEM enviroment? until they can deliever on an enterprise level they will only remain a favorite of hobbists.

CB32

Excellent! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8943014)

Now my palm can store 100gb of data.

FUCK! $1,092 USD (0, Troll)

ForestGrump (644805) | more than 10 years ago | (#8942942)

Exactly why I run a desktop...to dump all my files on, so I don't spend a grand just on laptop storage.

-Grump

Re:FUCK! $1,092 USD (4, Funny)

grub (11606) | more than 10 years ago | (#8942975)


still looking for a wife...

Too bad I divorced mine, you could have had her.

Re:FUCK! $1,092 USD (1)

ForestGrump (644805) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943035)

"You know, there's a million fine looking women in the world, dude. But they don't all bring you lasagna at work."
-- Kevin Smith

She never brought you lasagna at work...your better off without her. Go after the 999,999 other ones out there and find one that will bring you lunch at work.

-Grump

Re:FUCK! $1,092 USD (1)

cozziewozzie (344246) | more than 10 years ago | (#8942995)

Yeah, but laptops today are often used as desktop replacements. If you move every few months, you don't want to take a desktop computer around.

Re:FUCK! $1,092 USD (1)

ForestGrump (644805) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943065)

I've moved 4 times in the past 2 years.
Your point?

I use my laptop as my primary machine, and I dump large files onto my desktop.

For instance, I don't need to run around everywhere with movies, and games, and everything else. That stays in the apt. When I do need to move, the desktop (mini tower) fits nicely behind the passenger seat of a car.

-Grump

Re:FUCK! $1,092 USD (1)

Short Circuit (52384) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943163)

I've moved once in the last ten.

But then, I'm 20 years old and still live with my parents...

Re:FUCK! $1,092 USD (1)

ForestGrump (644805) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943256)

Well, I'm 20.
Thinking about it, 4 times is a lose estimate.
When I was 18, I moved into the dorms to do summer session (damn math placemnet test and 2 questions)
Then I moved home after 5 weeks,
Moved in 2 weeks later for fall quarter
Moved home at the end of the year
Moved into apt I'm in now.
I'm moving home again in 6 weeks.

Joy!
Here, I'll give you a few tips.
Keep your life simple. Every item you bring to the dorm/apt, you have to move home eventually.
Go buy some 20 gal plastic bins. I live out of 5 of them. 2 for clean/dirty clothes. 3 for storage.
Buy a laptop and a desktop. Laptop is great for going to class (history guy talks so much, I would end up going through 3 notebooks by the end of the quarter) Desktop is to dump files on. (Do you need all that pr0n in lecture? nah. save that for when your alone in the apt.)

Don't get a sports coupe (like a miata, s2000, SLK, etc) Get a pratical car. It makes it much easier if you are going out with friends/when you move home at the end of the school year.

Also, with a high profile car (s2000, miata, SLK) it is more prone to get broken into/stolen (which just sucks)

-Grump

Re:FUCK! $1,092 USD (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8943107)

If you move every few months, you don't want to take a desktop computer around.

Are you on the run from the cops? You've got much bigger problems than schlepping a desktop :)

External hard drives - USB/Firewire (4, Insightful)

billstewart (78916) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943190)

Trusting your laptop's harddrive for data you care about is seriously clueless - you're going to get it fried, so you need off-machine backups. If you don't have a desktop, an external 3.5" disk with USB or Firewire interface will cost you about $100+disk, and you're much more likely to get your backups done than you are to constantly burn CD-ROMs. USB2 is obviously a lot nicer than USB1 for this, but even USB1 is a lot less hassle than burning CDs.

Or get yourself one of those little Shuttle barebones boxes - they're still pretty portable, and while they're more expensive than the external drive, you can do a lot more with them.

Re:External hard drives - USB/Firewire (1)

ForestGrump (644805) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943315)

Yea, thats another tihng I have a destkop for.

I've had my laptop hdd die on me before.
I copy all the important dir to the desktop...

Also, having a desktop is convenient. I can, research on one and hack out an essay on another. Someone comes over and wants to check slashdot? use the desktop!

Re:FUCK! $1,092 USD (2, Insightful)

khelms (772692) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943150)

I can guarantee that's NOT going to be the retail price for this thing when released to the general public. The 80GB laptop drives can be found for as low as $190. Nobody's going to pay 4 times the price for a 25% increase in capacity. (Now if we were talking Intel chip speeds, that'd be different)

Or do what I do... (1)

HaloZero (610207) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943340)

When my laptop is sitting on my desk, it's plugged into the 400 FireWire 120GB external enclosure. I built it, cheap, 150$, max.
It's not that hard.

When I need to carry files around, they get written to the disc. When not, I don't store them. 256,512,etc USB keychains work VERY well, too.

For those of you who will go 'Well, you can't very well carry that around all the time' - I don't. It's a drop box. It gets plugged into the deskbox when not in use, so I can sftp and grab what I need if needbe.

I've never really found a need for excessive laptop harddrive space.

Smaller and smaller (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8942947)

Makes you kinda wonder... what exactly is small?

Re:Smaller and smaller (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8943124)

Something that is not big?

Bandwidth (2, Funny)

LordHatrus (763508) | more than 10 years ago | (#8942955)

Maybe with these drives, we'll be able to increase the last 'bandwidth' pigeon test :)

RPMs (1)

stryck9 (670369) | more than 10 years ago | (#8942956)

It is amazing the speed difference between a 5400RPM drive and 7200RPM drive.

Re:RPMs (4, Funny)

Mateito (746185) | more than 10 years ago | (#8942990)

Yep.

1800 RPM.

Re:RPMs (1)

CptSparrow (759491) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943028)

rpm -uvh 5400.rpm

Re:RPMs (1)

slackerboy (73121) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943062)

Well, somebody else beat me to the punchline, but I figure I should still point out that the translation actually lists a speed of 4200 RPM.

Re:RPMs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8943123)

I didn't know Red Hat had that many RPMs [rpm.org] , much less that you could fit them all on one drive.

MP3 players based on this drive? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8942957)

Will there be MP3 players with this drive in them in the near future?

How about a 100 GB Apple iPod?

Inventions to help iPod (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8943008)

I know what would help iPod: a battery that you could actually buy in most stores, and replace just by opening a hatch. No more problem of tossing out the iPod to buy a new one when the battery dies. That would be an advance, no other competitor has a thing like that!

Re:MP3 players based on this drive? (4, Interesting)

Lane.exe (672783) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943070)

Screw that. If Apple fits a 100 gig drive into something like that, why not make a portable video player out of it too? Throw on mpeg, quicktime and divx support and you could put whole DVDs on there.

The problem here is that most people wouldn't need something like this: people can listen to music and do a million things. You can't do much but watch video while it's on.

Then again, the video for portable entertainment on long plane flights is appealing.

Re:MP3 players based on this drive? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8943166)

Better toss in a plutonium battery, too.

Heck, you could even power your house with it then! (or at least a couple aligator clips attatched to your genitals). Ohhh! The BSDM audio/visual house powering digital player. I'm sold.

Too Costly (4, Funny)

Jtoxification (678057) | more than 10 years ago | (#8942968)

The OEM sample price is about $1,092 USD...but don't ask me what that means for consumers... It means that five years from now, it'll cost $10.92 or less.

Consumers (1)

somethinghollow (530478) | more than 10 years ago | (#8942971)

The OEM sample price is about $1,092 USD...but don't ask me what that means for consumers

It means not many will care to have one for a while. At least not until they are comperable to today's 2.5 inch drives (+/- a 100 USD).

iPod killer... (5, Funny)

michaelnz (701047) | more than 10 years ago | (#8942976)

I'll get these out of the way early: Why would I buy an iPod for $250 when for 800 dollars more I could get 25 times the capacity with this... Does it support .ogg?

Re:iPod killer... (1, Offtopic)

cdrudge (68377) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943240)

And I'll get the answers out of the way as well:
1. - because for $250 you are getting something that can actually play the music...instead of a really thin brick that would just holds music.

2. Yes. As well as every other data format that can be stored on a hard drive.

Interesting measurements, Cmdr (4, Funny)

AtariAmarok (451306) | more than 10 years ago | (#8942977)

"It's a 2.5 inch drive, is only 9.5mm tall"

I thought I was the only one who used English measurements for measurements longer than 1 inch, and Metric (millimeters, centimeters) for smaller than 1 inch of length. It sure does look odd in print: "The car wash? Oh. Go 2 km down the road. Turn right, and go 100 feet. You can't miss it!"

Re:Interesting measurements, Cmdr (2, Funny)

Mateito (746185) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943051)

That's only because "7 1/2 inches" sounds a lot more impressive than "11.4 cm"

Oh... wait.

Re:Interesting measurements, Cmdr (1)

Short Circuit (52384) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943194)

Except it's more acceptable to embellish with "11.5 cm"

Re:Interesting measurements, Cmdr (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8943074)

2 km is less than an inch?

Re:Interesting measurements, Cmdr (2, Insightful)

ERJ (600451) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943095)

Being a Japanese company, it makes sense that they would measure the height in millimeters. The 2.5 inches thing is a hard drive standard for laptops which would be why they measured that in imperial measurements.

Re:Interesting measurements, Cmdr (1)

vrt3 (62368) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943134)

I thought I was the only one who used English measurements for measurements longer than 1 inch, and Metric (millimeters, centimeters) for smaller than 1 inch of length. It sure does look odd in print: "The car wash? Oh. Go 2 km down the road. Turn right, and go 100 feet. You can't miss it!"

Hm... so are you saying that 2 km is smaller than 1 inch?

D'oh! (1)

AtariAmarok (451306) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943197)

The km example was just another way to show use of mixed measurements.

Re:Interesting measurements, Cmdr (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8943173)

They use 2.5 inch because that is the standard measurement for hard disk form factor. But, like most sensible companies, they use metric everywhere else.

Go buy yourself a set of tires, like P190/60R15. The 15 refers to wheel diameter (in inches) but the 190 is in millimeters.

Some standards are set in stone, even if they are old & archaic.

Despite living in a metric country, when I drive on business, my company reimburses me for "mileage" not "kilometerage".

Re:Interesting measurements, Cmdr (1)

theLOUDroom (556455) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943349)

I thought I was the only one who used English measurements for measurements longer than 1 inch, and Metric (millimeters, centimeters) for smaller than 1 inch of length.

Nope, you're in good company even NASA [nasa.gov] does it.

oh... wait....

I say (-1, Flamebait)

MrRuslan (767128) | more than 10 years ago | (#8942993)

they should just put standard 3.5 hdd's in those big ass desktop replacement laptops and get it over with...small laptops and hdd's are for women and those who are concerned about there figure...

and people who take their laptop everywhere... (1)

Phoenixhunter (588958) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943052)

I just picked up an IBM Thinkpad X30, 3.5lbs and loving it. Once you've switched from hauling around an 8 pounder to something half its weight you have a hard time going back...

Re:and people who take their laptop everywhere... (1)

MrRuslan (767128) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943186)

I just ordered a new laptop thats 7.5 lbs and im not gonna have a problem with it cuz i got a laptop backpack with it...since battery life is not an issue cuz the big ones and the small ones bouth die out before any real works get done anyway...the bottom line is in my opinion price/performance is more important to me than weight...

I want a hundred! (0)

thebra (707939) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943006)

Only $1,092 dollars for a 100 gig hard drive, sign me up.

to prevent slashdotting of the english text & (4, Informative)

chrisopherpace (756918) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943018)

Toshiba gets over the 80GB mark for laptops with their new hard drive. It's a mere 2.5 inches high, and only 9.5mm thick. Don't ask me why they use both metric and imperial measurements for these though. Seriously, I just had "inch" and "mm" in the same sentence! Toshiba Corporation will begin OEM shipments in May of their 9.5mm thick 2.5 inch HD with a capacity of 100GB, called the "MK1031GAS." With a 35% miniturization of the Femto Slider in the head unit, and an improvement of the thin film technology of the media, a recording density of 124MBit/mm2 has been achieved - making for a larger overall capacity. This is the highest recording density in the world for a 2.5" HD. The disk rotation speed is 4,200rpm, and there are two platter, four heads, and the average seek time is 12msec. The supported interface is Ultra ATA/100. The main body size is 70 x 100 x 9.5mm, and the weight is 99g. Apart from the capacity, however, there have been other improvements to the drive. First of all, the spindle motor rotation control system has been changed, a lower power consumption has been accomplished with the use of a DC/DC converter on the power component, allowing for a decrease of 20% versus previous models. Also, the shock protection is about 1.5x that of previous models, with 325G(2msec) while operating, and 850G(1msec) while not operating. The operational sounds while the drive is idle has also been pushed down to 21dB.


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Re:to prevent slashdotting of the english text &am (1)

pknoll (215959) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943100)

Don't ask me why they use both metric and imperial measurements for these though.

Because for hard drives, 2.5" refers to a standard form factor. Height is expressed more clearly in millimeters, though, since the difference between 9mm and 10mm (for example) is .04".

Re:to prevent slashdotting of the english text &am (1)

chrisopherpace (756918) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943127)

just like to clarify, none of my opinions, or input is on the grandparent post. that was a simple copy & paste of what TFA said.

Re:to prevent slashdotting of the english text &am (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8943218)

I don't think TA is F.

Re:to prevent slashdotting of the english text &am (1)

trebob (769006) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943288)

"size is 70 x 100 x 9.5mm, and the weight is 99g."

shouldnt that be 'and the weight is 3 ounces, 10.5g'?

Cool...but no thanks (2, Interesting)

hdd (772289) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943025)

definitly not for average laptop user, i rather bring a 300GB external drive with me if i need all that extra space on the move. imagine putting one of these babies in the ipod or a mpeg4 camcorder.(patent pending idea!)

Re:Cool...but no thanks (2, Insightful)

Misch (158807) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943170)

Yeah, that's nice and all, but what if your laptop has only a USB 1.0/1.1 interface and no firewire adapter? Have you ever tried moving 300 GB of files over a USB 1.x connection?

Then again, I'll admit that I ran out and bought a WD 120 GB external Firewire/USB 2.0 drive a couple of days before a business trip and my project had its butt saved when one of my cow orkers showed up with a Firewire->Mini Firewire adapter... Firewire moved the files so much faster than the USB 1.1 did.

About damned time (3, Informative)

dulinor (42115) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943029)

80 GB has been max for far too long. When you throw 50 GB of that at your music, it fills up fast. I haven't seen anything on the speed of the drive, but generally higher-density data at same rpm should be faster throughput which is all that matters.

9.5mm means this will fit in the Powerbooks (and presumably most standard laptops as well) Sign me up for one as soon as they're available to consumers.

Re:About damned time (1)

EaterOfDog (759681) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943239)

50 GB of music on your laptop? You might want to stop using AIFF files.

Re:About damned time (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8943367)


When you throw 50 GB of that at your music, it fills up fast.
Then don't steal music, and you won't have space problems.

Fucking idiot.

Silly naming conventions (4, Insightful)

LordFoo (518001) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943032)

From the article:
The key to achieving this was replacing the Pico Sliders attached to the drive's heads, and which maintain the appropriate distance from the disk during read and write operations, with Femto Sliders that are 35% smaller and much lighter.
To echo the sentiments seen in some posts on other topics -- aren't these naming conventions getting a little ridiculous? I know it's been a while since "milli" was cool for referring to small things (and was replaced by "micro"), but it hasn't been that long since "nano" became ubiquitous.

Looks like atto/zepto/yocto aren't far behind. Maybe we should go back to the naming convention where the metric prefix actually referred to the scale of the item in question; i.e. nanobots on the nanometer scale.

You know... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8943033)

I said this back when they came out with 20GB laptop drives and I'll say it again. Do you really want to carry around that much information on a laptop or PDA? Do you really need to?

How many MP3s do you have? You aren't using your laptop for porn, are you?

You know... (0)

Bill, Shooter of Bul (629286) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943164)

Seriously, 20GB is too big? What about those games that routinely take 2-3 gigs? What about those of us that use labtops as our primary computer? Silly Rabbit, Labtops are for adults!

They also seem to have a 100GB 1.8"(!) drive (3, Interesting)

phr1 (211689) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943060)

I saw some mention somewhere of a trade show demo of an ultra-thin subnotebook that had a 100GB 1.8" drive, like the drive in an iPod (those are currently available up to 40 GB and the 40GB drive is about $200 retail from dealers). I figure the 100GB version will be available by the end of the year.

ata/100 (3, Interesting)

Coneasfast (690509) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943079)

whether it supports ata/100 is irrelevant, considering the RPM is only 4,200, which is the more important fact. the transfer rate won't even get anywhere close to ata/100 speeds at 4200rpm.

Value proposition? (2, Insightful)

merlin_jim (302773) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943088)

Let's see... 2.5 inch... less than 1cm tall... I've got a drive in my laptop that's 30 GB that size. 100GB is impressive, but is it really worth $1000? I mean if I've got portable storage requirements (video, maybe?) that big, I'd probably be better off with a USB 2.0 external... higher transfer rates and a third the cost...

Re:Value proposition? (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943220)

is the OEM SAMPLE PRICE.

enough said.

Nothing spectacular. (0, Troll)

corngrower (738661) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943098)

This just looks to be an incremental improvment over their existing 80 GB drive. Nothing revolutionary here. Ho hum.

What this means for consumers (3, Interesting)

Seekerofknowledge (134616) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943129)

..but don't ask me what that means for consumers

What this means for consumers is that, after prices come down, we are talking about some serious storage capabilities in portable devices. Something like the ipod mini, except more on the order of 150gigs, 200gigs, who knows by the time the price comes down.

It would be a mini personal server, where you could carry around with you almost all convenient data you would want, really. Your entire music collection...your entire divx collection...both? How about something like your resume, all of your email, some source code you are working on. Whatever. This idea has been thrown around here on slashdot before, it's nothing new. But at least now it would be more applicable.

Re:What this means for consumers (4, Informative)

phr1 (211689) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943302)

Ehh, no not really, the iPod Mini uses a drive that's more like 1". This 100GB drive is 2.5" 9.5mm thick, which is the standard form factor these days for laptop hard drives. Drives in that form factor have already been available with 80GB for several months, and with 60GB for a while before that, so 100 GB is just another incremental improvement over the previous 80 GB. Anyway, these drives are for laptops including subnotes, and largish audio players like the old Creative jukeboxes. The regular (40GB etc). iPod uses a 1.8" diameter drive which is about half the size of this 2.5" unit, and the mini-iPod's drive is the size of a CF card.

Finally! (2, Funny)

c4Ff3In3 4ddiC+ (661808) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943130)

An upgrade for my iBook!

In other news... (-1, Troll)

Geek_3.3 (768699) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943254)

...

[insert broad smartarsed comment about how technology is getting faster, smaller, cheaper...]

Given that... (1, Insightful)

gillbates (106458) | more than 10 years ago | (#8943301)

My Toshiba CD-RW can only burn ~500MB of a 700MB CD-R without errors, the writable capacity of this drive is probably closer to 71 GB.

And considering that said CD-RW drive can't read a burned file larger than 133MB, the read capacity of this hard drive is probably closer to 19 GB.

I, for one, could care less about the size increases of the newer drives. I would rather have something that works as advertised for longer than the warranty period.

Why would I ever buy a 100 GB hard drive if it was going to fail before I could fully use that capacity?

Why, when hard drive speed is the single largest factor affecting perceived system performance, do manufacturers insist on improving storage capacity at the expense of speed and reliability?

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