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D&D Is 30

Hemos posted more than 10 years ago | from the celebrate-mountain-dew-and-church-basements dept.

Role Playing (Games) 763

mainframemouse writes "For those who have not seen the Beeb article, Dungeons and Dragons is 30 years old. After many years of role-playing is wonderful to see the mother of all RPG's given respect and mention in the national press. There's even a note about the false accusations of the 80's." And for the record - flanking & attacks of opportunity in 3/3.5 Edition still irritate me. Combine a familiar with Master Tactician and some rogue levels, and you're off to the races.

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I AM THE KING OF THE PESSIMISTIC PEOPLE (-1, Offtopic)

KING P (773923) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973377)

YOU CANNOT STOP ME

Re:I AM THE KING OF THE PESSIMISTIC PEOPLE (2, Funny)

Mmm coffee (679570) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973523)

If you really were king of the pessimistic people, wouldn't you be saying "YOU WILL STOP ME"?

The flagship... (5, Funny)

danielrm26 (567852) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973381)

Ah, D&D -- the flagship of geek hobbies. Many people do video games or comic books and want to include themselves in the group, but until you've re-written your character sheet 15 times, had discussions about what makes a good DM/GM, and carried around a fuzzy bag full of expensive dice, you aren't the real deal. :)

Re:The flagship... (2, Funny)

greenhide (597777) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973387)

What about playing Neverwinter Nights? That counts, right?

Re:The flagship... (3, Funny)

Qrlx (258924) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973454)

What about the "gold box" SSI games? Those were awesome!

"Bit 'o Moander" was one of the most fearsome beasts EVAR!!

Re:The flagship... (4, Insightful)

CFBMoo1 (157453) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973600)

As someone who built several modules and roleplays a cow on NWN I can officially state my opion as Moo.. errr no. It's not the same.

Especially since my first D&D adventure was pen and paper and my entire party got devistated by a group of drow and a twisted DM who liked to have the spell casters in the party get their tongues welded to the floors of their mouths and spikes placed in their arms. Definatly nothing like NWN.

One thing that seperates NWN from pen and paper D&D is you can not get Array out of Bounds errors on pen and paper D&D when creating an adventure like you can in the Aurora toolset when adding your own content or manipulating it.

Also you have the ability to use your imagination more and drink beer and hang out with cool friends unlike NWN unless your doing a LAN fest of it. Still it's not the same in any way, shape or form.

Re:The flagship... (2, Interesting)

kunudo (773239) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973424)

Talking of expensive dice, mine are metal (lead), so make that that heavy expensive dice... the full set weighs as much as my books and lays waste to any table I use them on :)

phirst: (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8973445)

First "D&D is 30, and still [hasn't gotten laid | moved out of their parents' basements]" joke!

Re:The flagship... (1)

Kenja (541830) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973474)

"but until you've re-written your character sheet 15 times"

You call yourself a geek? I have my character sheet on my Toshiba e805 PDA.

Re:The flagship... (4, Funny)

neilcSD (743335) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973507)

god...those were the days. eating hohos until 4 in the morning, listening to the same cursed ace of base cd over and over and over...arguing over who gets that uber sword of leetness +1...rerolling and rerolling until you get that leet starting stat list...doing stupid things that piss of your GM and wreck the storyline...woop! great times!!

Ugh (3, Funny)

TheRealMindChild (743925) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973386)

I spent way too much of my life on this game. As stupid as it sounds, I am thankful for my mother thinkng D&D was a satanic cult and grounding me for weeks for playing it. Else, I would be ... not the person I am... and I don't mean that in a good way.

a coincidence (4, Interesting)

zptdooda (28851) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973390)

Just last night I printed off a bunch of polyhedra polyhedra [wolfram.com] for my six year to cut out and assemble for fun.

I remember before the Dungeon Master's Guide, Player's Footbook and Monster Manual (which our DM forbade us to read), there was only a thick pamphlet-like book with a few monsters (giant rats, hobgoblin, gelatenous cube), and a sample 1/2 level. There sure were a lot of gelatenous cubes for level 1 ...

Re:a coincidence (1)

byolinux (535260) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973430)

"gelatinous cube eats village", brilliant.

12-sided hit die (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8973391)

is on teh spoke. Yep, yep.

Has to be said... (1, Insightful)

boomgopher (627124) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973393)

It was cooler to play it back in the day when hardly anyone had heard of it. Popularity/fame made it a 'dork thing'.


Love, boomgopher

Re:Has to be said... (2, Funny)

night_flyer (453866) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973415)

quit fooling yourself, it was a "dork thing" back then as well...

Re:Has to be said... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8973588)

coming from someone posting on /.

Real Role-playing (1)

gevmage (213603) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973438)

Well, if you're missing that authentic "gritty" feel, you can always write your own rules. You won't have to deal with the expense of big glossy manuals, and you can always change things to suit.

Re:Real Role-playing (2, Interesting)

Martin Blank (154261) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973579)

It's a rarity that I don't rewrite rules for the games I play. I think the only one I've never really modified much was Cyberpunk 2020, but even that got some tweaks on automatic weapons fire.

Re:Real Role-playing (1)

Analogy Man (601298) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973599)

There is actually an art to generating the rules to make for a more interesting balanced game.

If you are making up your own rules your wizards and sword fights escallate into...I teleport your party to the Andromeda Galaxy and issue a summon black hole spell swallowing the entire galaxy into a space time singularity...that I will put into my bag of holding until I feel like REALLY kicking your butt.

Funny how things come full circle, but my son is now at the age where he may soon take an interest in games like D&D. Of his friends, the biggest pain in the ass is one that makes up rules as he goes along for one of those Pokemon knock-offs.

Re:Has to be said... (1)

jacquesm (154384) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973469)

hehe, bet you knew Jesus before he was a superstar too :)

Congrats! (3, Funny)

FortKnox (169099) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973394)

Now it can finally use the +8 TwoHanded Sword of Thirtysomething!

D&D is 30 and.... (5, Funny)

ThePlague (30616) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973398)

It still hasn't kissed a girl!

If you know what THAC0 is... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8973399)

you are a nerd.

roll playing? (1)

cornholio_hehehe (739161) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973406)

I am Cornholio. Take me to your bunghole.

3 Decades! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8973407)

And still proudly living in the parent's basement!

E. Gary Gygax (1)

Qrlx (258924) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973408)

Bonus points for whoever knows what the E. in E. Gary Gygax stands for!

Re:E. Gary Gygax (1)

rizzo5 (574275) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973439)

i could be wrong but i thought it was ernie?

Re:E. Gary Gygax (3, Informative)

MoxCamel (20484) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973461)

Ernest.

Re:E. Gary Gygax (1)

kunudo (773239) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973465)

ernest.

Re:E. Gary Gygax (3, Informative)

Stitch_626 (744380) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973503)

Birth Name is "Ernest Gary Gygax" http://www.amiannoying.com/(k5qimjztujzkgibrsu53to va)/view.aspx?id=9673&collection=821

Yep (5, Funny)

EpsCylonB (307640) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973411)

And for the record - flanking & attacks of opportunity in 3/3.5 Edition still irritate me. Combine a familiar with Master Tactician and some rogue levels, and you're off to the races.

Yep you are a nerd.

30th birthday? (2, Redundant)

addie (470476) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973412)

Maybe it'll finally move out of it's parent's basement...

Re:30th birthday? (1)

BoomerSooner (308737) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973593)

My wife keeps telling me to throw out my 3 boxes of D&D, AD&D stuff and I tell her "Over my cold, dead, body" or "From my cold, dead, hands". She likes the Charlton Heston reference and lets me keep my old junk (80's & 90's Rockin' sheet music as well!).

Ask the girl out on a date! (4, Funny)

teamhasnoi (554944) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973416)

'I'm sorry, the girl makes a saving throw against your 1st level charm spell. You really need to work on your CHR.'

'Is there any Mountain Dew? Can I have one?'

Re:Ask the girl out on a date! (1)

Dun Malg (230075) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973509)

'I'm sorry, the girl makes a saving throw against your 1st level charm spell. You really need to work on your CHR.'
'Is there any Mountain Dew? Can I have one?'

Is that the from the "sequel"? I have seen Summoner Geeks [ifilm.com] , but I understand there's a second clip. Anyone have a link?

"Are there any girls there?"

Re:Ask the girl out on a date! (1)

FortKnox (169099) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973585)

Its my understanding that its based of an SNL skit. The words you here are from the skit, they (the Summoner animators) were simply showing off the graphics.

I had a discussion... (5, Funny)

dijjnn (227302) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973421)

The other day with a friend about which type of dice hurt the worst to step on. we decided that, while a d4 was bad (the worst if you step straight down hard), that a d8 was really the worst because it rolled with your foot.

My girlfriend immediately said, "oh my god, i'm dating a nerd."

Thank you D&D.

Don't you mean... (5, Funny)

glpierce (731733) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973457)

...Ex-girlfriend?

Re:I had a discussion... (-1, Offtopic)

Cereal Box (4286) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973485)

My girlfriend immediately said, "oh my god, i'm dating a nerd."

Gotta love those Slashdot comments where someone throws in a line about having a girlfriend despite the fact that it adds nothing to the comment and doesn't relate to it at all.

Re:I had a discussion... (1)

dijjnn (227302) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973502)

no, i really had to; otherwise it wouldn't have been funny.

really, i do have a girlfriend. stop looking at me like that.

Re:I had a discussion... (0)

Cereal Box (4286) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973520)

Nah, it was already funny, because from the conversation we could all tell that you're a nerd.

Re:I had a discussion... (1)

dijjnn (227302) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973542)

haha. you say that like i'm the only one.

maybe i'm just paranoid.

again, stop looking at me.

Re:I had a discussion... (5, Funny)

D-Cypell (446534) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973575)

Yeah, I have noticed this lots recently, its like guys read threads about how slashdot is full of sexually frustrated geeks and want to prove that they can play happily in both worlds (and make all the true 'significant-other-deficient' geeks jealous)...

My and my girlfriend both hate posts like that..

Re:I had a discussion... (0)

Gr33nNight (679837) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973538)

I made the mistake of reading slashdot while she was cooking dinner (id help, but my cooking would kill a dog). She saw the 'news for nerds' and I didnt hear the end of it for 3 days.

Re:I had a discussion... (2, Funny)

dijjnn (227302) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973584)

Try choosing Slashdot over cuddling Trading Spaces on TLC. Brother, that's a world of hurt.

Re:I had a discussion... (1)

dijjnn (227302) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973610)

cuddling Trading Spaces == cuddling and Trading Spaces

Re:I had a discussion... (5, Funny)

maxpublic (450413) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973553)

My girlfriend immediately said, "oh my god, i'm dating a nerd."

I didn't know they made talking RealDolls.

Max

House rules? (5, Insightful)

Phs2501 (559902) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973429)

And for the record - flanking & attacks of opportunity in 3/3.5 Edition still irritate me. Combine a familiar with Master Tactician and some rogue levels, and you're off to the races.

If they irritate you, change the rules. One of the things a good GM needs to do is to keep the game from becoming too cheezy. If they players are abusing the rules, nerf them! The 3rd Edition Harm spell is a perfect example of something that desperately needs it.

In my opinion, rules like flanking and attacks of opportunity add a whole lot more tactical depth to the combat without slowing it down much. It's certainly more fun than combat in old D&D.

Re:House rules? (2, Informative)

mooman (9434) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973512)

Yeah, we have a liberal set of houserules designed to overcome anything we don't like. For flanking, we decided on these [drunkenelf.com] .

I've also concocted very entertaining critical and fumbles rules for melee, missile, and spell scenarios. Far more fun than "Oh, you get double damage" or "the spell just fizzles" over and over.

Re:House rules? (2, Informative)

Kenja (541830) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973548)

Warning, nerd comments to follow

"In my opinion, rules like flanking and attacks of opportunity add a whole lot more tactical depth to the combat without slowing it down much. It's certainly more fun than combat in old D&D."

Depends on the class you play, some such sa the Bard have ben reduced to non combatents by the new rules. You say "I sing" on the first round and then go watch TV or something while the fighters start to dance around with their swords. I liked the older rules, which where more geared to role playing then the new combat/tactics system where the only needed atribute is STR.

Re:House rules? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8973567)

If they irritate you, change the rules.

Or just play rules-lite systems like BESM [guardiansorder.com] or any number of other rpgs that aren't tactical simulations.

wow (1)

quelrods (521005) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973431)

I find it amazing that it's lived this long...*sigh* I suppose in another 10 years it'll still be here.

Re:wow (2, Insightful)

Kobold Curry Chef (692137) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973511)

I think so too. However, I don't expect that D&D, or tabletop RPGs in general, will survive the deaths of the generation that first started playing it. So give it another 30 years, and I think D&D will probably be like tabletop paper-counter wargaming is today--a tiny niche hobby.

Logic, Logic -- Who's Got the Logic? (3, Funny)

handy_vandal (606174) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973434)

For those who have not seen the Beeb article, Dungeons and Dragons is 30 years old.

Even for those who have *not* seen the Beeb article, Dungeons and Dragons is 30 years old. My state of having seen the article or not has nothing to do with the content of the article.

Sorry to nitpick, but dammit -- illogical writing leads to fuzzy thinking, which results in irrational behavior. And God knows we could use more rational behavior.

-kgj

Re:Logic, Logic -- Who's Got the Logic? (1)

carcosa30 (235579) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973497)

Another trait of geeks is obsessive hairsplitting. I mean my god, man.

Re:Logic, Logic -- Who's Got the Logic? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8973501)

For those who have not seen the Beeb article, Dungeons and Dragons is 30 years old.

True. It should be "For those who have not seen the Beeb article -- Dungeons and Dragons is 30 years old."

On the other hand, if your going to whine that people arent using punctuation correctly, you may want to start with the egregious misuse of apostrophes before bitching about arcana like this.

Re:Logic, Logic -- Who's Got the Logic? (1)

p3d0 (42270) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973528)

Dang, man, if you're going to nitpick, do it right.

Re:Logic, Logic -- Who's Got the Logic? (2, Informative)

buysse (5473) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973529)

Dude? You just repeated the post. The post is "For those who have not seen the Beeb article..." and you said "Even for those who have not seen the Beeb article..." as if it was something different.

Sorry to nitpick, but dammit...

Re:Logic, Logic -- Who's Got the Logic? (1)

Daverd (641119) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973602)

I think the poster's logic was as follows: If you have not seen the Beeb article, then this following bit of information is for you. D&D is 30 years old.
After all, for anyone who did see the article, that would just be redundant information.

Re:Logic, Logic -- Who's Got the Logic? (1)

lawpoop (604919) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973608)

This is using a socio-linguistic logic, which, surprisingly, many geeks are unfamiliar with. One of the 'rules' of conversation is that statements offer new information. The author is showing the audience that he knows that some already may know the information that he is presenting, and it's not intended for that audience.

So, yes, it is logical.

Re:Logic, Logic -- Who's Got the Logic? (3, Informative)

Shimmer (3036) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973609)

This is perfectly legitimate linguistic construct. It's not at all illogical once you have an understanding of pragmatics [wikipedia.org] .

Of course, being a native speaker of English, I presume that you already have a very good intuitive sense of pragmatics, and are just conflating the rigid semantics of computers (which have no pragmatics) with the much more expressive power of human languages.

Another common example: "There's some food in the fridge if you're hungry." Of course, there's also food in the fridge if you're not hungry, but that's not the point.

I think we all owe a debt to D&D.... (4, Interesting)

bizpile (758055) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973437)

it paved the way for my favorite game, Knights of the Old Republic and really, the whole genre. Makes me want to dust off the ol' board and get the gang back together for another all night game.

Ah, D&D (4, Funny)

Hanna's Goblin Toys (635700) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973440)

It really works [chick.com] , you know.

Question from an "outsider" (1)

zapp (201236) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973441)

I have never really cared for D&D at all... it never sounded interesting to me. I'm almost done reading the LOTR books, and was just wondering if the D&D world was based off Tolkien's world? I know there's some overlap, atleast as far as such things as elves, dworves, etc, right?

Can someone explain the connection, if there is one?

Re:Question from an "outsider" (1)

The_Mystic_For_Real (766020) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973482)

My understanding is that the creators were very fond of the book and that they wanted to play in the world of Tolkien. The game they created certainly has a scope far greater than the books and you can easily play a game that bears no resemblance to the books or to anything else for that matter.

No, it's not. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8973491)

There were no "weirding modules" in Tolkien's world.

Re:Question from an "outsider" (1)

Jason R (38141) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973505)

I always preferred Shadownrun. It was different than the normal 'fantasy' games. My only complaint was that sometimes the game system was TOO open.

re: question from an "outsider" (2, Informative)

ed.han (444783) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973514)

D&D was certainly heavily inspired by tolkien's LOTR work: enough so that the tolkien estate sued the publishers, TSR (tactical studies review). but the key thing to remember is that there are a number of worlds in which the D&D game can be played, published by current publishers, wizards of the coast (of magic: the addiction fame), as well as by a host of other publishers in the RPG industry.

RPGs are the activity, but the world(s) in which they are played are the setting.

hope that answers your question satisfactorily.

ed

Re:Question from an "outsider" (1)

Analogy Man (601298) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973524)

To knowledge there is not a direct relationship between LOTR and D&D. There are elements that may be lifted (e.g. Hobbits, Orcs etc)...but then Tolkien lifted many of his ideas from various mythologies.

Re:Question from an "outsider" (2, Interesting)

JLyle (267134) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973534)

I have never really cared for D&D at all... it never sounded interesting to me. I'm almost done reading the LOTR books, and was just wondering if the D&D world was based off Tolkien's world? I know there's some overlap, atleast as far as such things as elves, dworves, etc, right?

Can someone explain the connection, if there is one?
Dungeons and Dragons drew inspiration from a number of different sources, including Tolkien's work. But I remember (for example) references to a number of different mythologies (e.g. in Deities and Demigods), H.P. Lovecraft's characters, Arthurian legends, etc. The great thing about D&D was that it provided the framework for the game but left a lot of details of the "campaign" -- such as the setting, the challenges, etc. -- up to the players.

Borrowed very, very heavily (1)

Skyshadow (508) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973536)

D&D takes a *lot* from Tolkien. This shouldn't be all that shocking -- Tolkien's stated goal with LOTR and middle earth was to create a sort of modern mythology, and he did so sucessfully.

In practice, however, D&D doesn't swipe so many theamatic elements from Tolkien as, say, White Wolf's Vampires game does from Ann Rice.

Celebration... (-1, Flamebait)

consolidatedbord (689996) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973447)

of 30 years of dateless, virgin nerds who still live at home!

my frinds were dorks (3, Interesting)

the_2nd_coming (444906) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973452)

they did not want to start playing it :-(

in boy scouts on a camping trip when I was 12 I got hooked on D&D, and I have never been able to play on a sustained period of time... now I am too old, and the people my age that play are so socially backwards that I think I would just laugh at them. oh well.

Re:my frinds were dorks (2, Insightful)

Phoenixhunter (588958) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973550)

The group I play with ranges from 24 to 46...and the two people over 40 are perfectly normal individuals who are married and have kids (if that's how you define normal for people of that age). I think you'll be pleasently surprised if you go and find a group.

Some classic Christian D&D FUD (5, Interesting)

gid13 (620803) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973462)

http://www.chick.com/bc/2002/dnd.asp

Quote from the link: "The goal of the game [D&D] would be to see who could obtain the most erotic pleasure"

As my friend who sent me the link originally so accurately stated, "I don't know about you, but my D&D sessions were never like that."

Btw... D&D is 30... But what about its other attributes? What's its alignment? Strength, dexterity, intelligence, etc? Okay I'm a nerd.

Re:Some classic Christian D&D FUD (5, Interesting)

FortKnox (169099) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973549)

I've seen theologists write PhD thesis' about how D&D is not sacreligious. Basically, it hits on the points that good is always better than evil, it can help satisfy evil needs by 'pretending' them, and if you can't tell the difference between reality and fantasy you have worse problems than playing D&D.

Re:Some classic Christian D&D FUD (3, Funny)

GoofyBoy (44399) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973562)

"The goal of the game [D&D] would be to see who could obtain the most erotic pleasure"

No, thats the Internet.

30 years huh? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8973466)

That seems a loooong time to be a virgin

Bah (2, Funny)

SCSi (17797) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973479)

I bailed out of D&D when they made all of my 2nd edition books obsolete with v3.0.. Then turned right around and screwed me again by making v3.5..
Though you know you're a geek when you watch 'kill bill' and say "that sword must be at a vorpal sword +2" and people laugh.
*sigh*

Military Potential of D&D (5, Funny)

handy_vandal (606174) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973480)

It was even a cult at a Wisconsin naval base. "At one time every nuclear submarine had a D&D group," says Arneson.
- from the article [bbc.co.uk]

Nuclear submarines? D&D groups?

My God ... do you think the Commander-in-Chief knows about this?

-kgj

Re:Military Potential of D&D (5, Funny)

The_Mystic_For_Real (766020) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973518)

Wisconsin naval base

I can't imagine they had much else to do while at a naval base in Wisconsin.

_____________
It was just a joke, please don't hurt me.

Re:Military Potential of D&D (1)

MAXOMENOS (9802) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973572)

I'm sure Bob Barr would have found the prospect most alarming.

Takes me back a bit (5, Interesting)

Skyshadow (508) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973487)

I'd forgotten what a pain it was to play D&D in the 80's. You young'uns might not realize it, but for a while D&D was seriously considered as being directly linked to satanism by an awful lot of people. Those morons looked at an activity which was developing imagination, math skills and the ability to think on your feet and somehow twisted it into us getting ready to boil babies or something.

I remember that "expose'" where they made D&D out to be some big satanic training session because (gasp!) there were demons and devils listed in the Field Folio. And then some shooter someplace had a DMG in his backpack or something like that...

Parents just ate that shit up. I think a lot of them couldn't understand why we just weren't spending our time watching TV like normal kids. We basically had to operate under the radar or risk losing a several of our players to easily paniced parents.

Re:Takes me back a bit (3, Funny)

spellraiser (764337) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973586)

Hehehe - I am reminded now of this [darkholmekeep.net] little comic strip. It's outrageous, in more ways than one.

All-Time of All-Time favorites (2, Funny)

the0ther (720331) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973495)

Ah Stipe, I remember thee well! Thorin and Flagg! Ye died honorably enough! Cedric, thieving and laughing! If I could quit my job and DM all day long, I'd do it!

picking on D&D (5, Interesting)

zptdooda (28851) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973496)

"The game was wrongly implicated in a missing persons case, a teen suicide and a number of murders. Some schools banned the game, and many parents refused to let their children play."

It bugged me at the time that for the amount of people playing the game, the incidence of suicide seemed lower than in the rest of the general public, but the press never seemed to report that.

re:picking on D&D (1)

ed.han (444783) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973570)

on the plus side, it's nice to see that this article appears free of that bias.

ed

Hats off to you (1, Funny)

SavedLinuXgeeK (769306) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973499)

I just realized that I know nothing of this nerdery, must I return my membership to the Geek Squad.

Re:Hats off to you (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8973568)

I just realized that I know nothing of this nerdery, must I return my membership to the Geek Squad.

You're not missing much. D+D is the favorite game of mentally fragile teenagers who are too feeble to face reality, so instead they invent themselves heroic lives in this game and slowly turn into psychos...

Mother of all RPGs? (3, Funny)

Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973506)

is wonderful to see the mother of all RPG's given respect and mention in the national press.

Well quite, but I must say I prefer throwing high explosive devices than slinging D&D books at monsters in Quake, it's more efficient...

Are there any girls there? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8973516)

"...Because if there are, I want to do them!" [cybermoonstudios.com] In all seriousness though: I ditched D&D for Shadowrun [shadowrunrpg.com] years ago. No alignment, no classes, more detailed setting and the ability to easily present much more diverse situations were all reasons.

Expensive books... (2, Interesting)

ArbiterOne (715233) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973526)

This is a tough hobby to get into (well, sort of) because all the rulebooks cost between 40 and 50 US dollars. If you buy all three (PH, MM, DMG) then you're looking at a net outlay of between $120 and $150. For that much, you can get a GameCube and a game or two. That's why most of the people who play D&D now are people who've played it for a long time. I'm one of those people.
At least my mother didn't think it was 'satanic' because I showed her the articles on www.trhickman.com debunking that myth.
Oh well, off to roll up another Grey Elf Wizard/Archmage...

Multiplayer Online (5, Interesting)

JSkills (69686) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973535)

Having been a old school D&D player (4 hours after school almost every day in high school), I have always looked forward to the development of D&D PC games. The well thought out rules and balance in D&D kind of spoiled me as I would only play games that used the actual D&D rules (same races, classes, spell names, etc). Even Diablo (although fun at the time) was a stretch because it really didn't use the same conventions. And the multiplayer was all about hacks and player killing.

Of course I ripped through all of the SSI games and the Baldur's Gate Series. Then came Neverwinter Nights. A beautiful game, but instead of controlling a party of people, it's just one character and a side-kick. This was a big mistake. However, the fact that one could assume the role of Dungeon Master made this game somewhat revolutionary.

But after playing multiplayer online a bit, I must say, that although I have found some new places to explore (people have spent some time on putting together some very cool levels), it still seems to come down to everyone being 40th level and killing each other. Maybe I'm just not playing in the right places?

Maybe I'm just missing the old days of getting together with pen paper and the dodecahedrons? I don't think so - who's got time for trying to orchestrate that?

And yes, I've tried Everquest and just couldn't seem to get into the flow of it. I couldn't see what the "big deal" was ...

I never played until I was almost 20 years old. (2, Informative)

Lord Kano (13027) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973539)

My mother was a Jesus Freak and when the anti D&D hysteria hit in the early 80s I was forbidden to play. I lost interest until the mid 90s when I also discovered Vampire The Masquerade. Vampire and D&D helped me to pass many a night.

LK

what i find interesting... (4, Insightful)

ed.han (444783) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973547)

on the 30th anniversary of the game, an article about it completely fails to mention the new edition (released 1999) or the revision that came several years later. and you'd think that a journalist would supply sales numbers to support an assertion as to whether or not something is "popular".

ed

Obligatory Link (2, Interesting)

88NoSoup4U88 (721233) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973580)

This one [cybermoonstudios.com] still cracks me up :)

If D&D is 30... (3, Funny)

Reverend Beaker (590517) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973594)

That puts it in an age catigory of 4, upping the challenge code to 13.... Sweet! If I get one more RPG and I'll make level 4!

True Geeks.. (4, Interesting)

Dutchmaan (442553) | more than 10 years ago | (#8973606)

..will argue rules in the DM's Guide better than the highest paid lawyers. You don't know arguing until you watch two more geeks citing obscure sentences in backwater paragraphs as evidence in supporting claims that you would swear held the fate of the world in the balance.

AD&D lawyers have always been the best and worst to play with!

3rd Edition? Bah!! Real men... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8973612)

...use the original rules, in the beigish cardstock booklets. Character sheet, what's that? You carve you character's stats into your arm, son.
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