Apple Offers Update to Recent AirPort Update 54
Milanek writes "Apple has released new version of AirPort Update 3.4.1 which solves problems introduced by the last AirPort update, 3.4." A great many people complained about lower signal strength after the 3.4 update last week.
It works! (Score:5, Informative)
The drop in signal strength was worrisome (Score:5, Funny)
Good work to Apple, and don't let it happen again!
Re:The drop in signal strength was worrisome (Score:3, Informative)
Re:The drop in signal strength was worrisome (Score:1, Informative)
AirPort -> severe crashes
Get it?
Re:The drop in signal strength was worrisome (Score:2, Funny)
Of course, I've only used MS Flight Simulator, what do I know? (Other than crashing it is a lot cheaper....)
Re:The drop in signal strength was worrisome (Score:1, Funny)
Update Redundancy (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Will it help here? (Score:1)
Re:Will it help here? (Score:1)
Bad Apple Updates (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Bad Apple Updates (Score:3, Insightful)
One thing I am sure to do, especially with OS updates, is Repair Permissions on my system volume before installing the update. I have no hard proof, but I've written shell scripts before and I'd speculate that incorrect file/folder permissions
Re:Bad Apple Updates (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Bad Apple Updates (Score:1)
actually he might relax more if he took his pants off
Re:Bad Apple Updates (Score:1)
Yeh I know anti-apple will get me modded down, but you know I actually do have a very valid point. There's someone a few comments up who basically said I'll wait a while for other people to see if its ok, surely that's apples job!
Re:Bad Apple Updates (Score:2)
unload: sarcasm:
Yes: run the Cron scripts, empty the trash, make certain you have enough free hard disk space for the upgrade, be certain you are running an account with administrator status, have TechTool 4 check everything, be certain that the swap files are in good shape and that they have enough space, consider optimizing the main drive, disconnect all firewire and USB devices, shut down the BLUETOOTH keyboard and mouse, run DiskWarrior 3.02 from the new boot CD you created three d
Works fine here (Score:5, Informative)
linkity link [apple.com]
Apple also put out a doc on the tools (link to PDF article)
clickity click [apple.com]
All working fine here.. (Score:5, Informative)
A great way to check your strength is MacStumbler [macstumbler.com] which also has some tasty war driving applications if you're so inclined.
With 3.4, I was getting a signal of as low as 81 in my room in some places (as far as 30 feet from my router), and now with 3.4.1 I'm above 100 everywhere in the room. Rock!
Re:All working fine here.. (Score:2)
You know, sunspots.
Re:All working fine here.. (Score:1)
Re:All working fine here.. (Score:2)
Bus Error on the softwareupdate download (Score:3, Interesting)
I'm getting bus error crashes when trying to download the patch on two different Macs, one a G5, the other a G3 iBook. The session goes something like this:
This is very repeatable for me -- it happened three times on one machine & twice on the other. I don't remember the softwareupdate command having a problem like this before.
On the other hand, I was able to use Safari to download the .dmg directly from Apple [apple.com], and Safari hasn't crashed on me. And the fact that people are reporting success with this suggests that the GUI tool is working, &/or the problem is local to the download option for the command line tool.
Still, it's annoying -- I was hoping to skip downloading it over & over, and this was much more of a kludge than I had in mind...
Re:Bus Error on the softwareupdate download (Score:1, Funny)
or
"Bus error" is just Apple-speak fBUFFERING
NO CARRIER
Re:Bus Error on the softwareupdate download (Score:2)
I recommend booting into single-use
OH NO! (Score:4, Funny)
On a positive note, I can more easily connect to my neighbor's very weak network - it's increased in strength x2, and my signal seems to be somewhat stronger (10-15 pts. on kisMAC)
Re:OH NO! (Score:3, Funny)
So, what you're saying is that things are better now?
Re:Another day.... (Score:2)
I definitely understand having a LOT of R&D going to this technology, it's really changing the way kids are learning and people are working.
If it weren't for the iBook's wireless abilities I'd be adminning a lab of bland Dell OptiPoopers instead of mobile airport carts full of durable kid-friendly iBooks.
Re:Another day.... (Score:2)
You do know who manufacturers the wireless cards, right?
Re:Another day.... (Score:2)
Re:Another day.... (Score:1)
I'll admit that wireless stuff is not great on the PC, and Windows' support for wireless is frankly abysmal, but why knock netgear stuff?
I've set up several Netgear APs, Wireless routers and what have you. I found them to be dead simple to set up and secure and they perform nicely. What's so great about the AEBS? Why is it so expensive? Am I missing out?
Re:Another day.... (Score:2)
My ne
Re:Another day.... (Score:1)
Sounds like a pretty bad experience.
I've got the ME102 also, which I've had good luck with. If you still have it, try giving this [wi2600.org] utility a go. It lets you adjust way more stuff than netgear's utility - which i agree is poor. Another useful feature is that you can adjust the strength of the signal output, which netgear don't set to the highest setting.
I've not really checked out the AEBS, but maybe I will if I ever need 11g.
Re:Another day.... (Score:2)
Apple puts a lot of R&D into their hardware, even though it's all built from components engineered elsewhere, you can't make a computer by tossing a CPU, video card, and hard drive into a plastic bin and shaking it, can you?
I'm waiting . . . (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm fat, dumb and happy and staying with 3.3.1 for the next few weeks. I'll let others play around with this update till the bugs are worked out.
Thanks to ^Fish Sun^ for the reversion page. That saved my entire day.
Re:I'm waiting . . . (Score:5, Funny)
I know what you mean, man. When my signal strength is down, posting to Slashdot is a real bitch.
no problems here... (Score:4, Interesting)
Of course, the AP is located in a strategic location in the house using sound RF engineering principals to determine the location and not stuffed in a dresser underneath the clean socks, and a pie tin, as it would appear the whiners have done to themselves...
Locating it as close as possible to the client machines and strategically centered in the middle of the desired zone of coverage while moving it appropriately closer to clients that are behind walls and other objects that soak up energy at 2.4 GHz -- works very well.
Knowing the limitations of the signal and being willing to install a second AP if necessary to get the desired coverage is probably also something that helps.
If your signal strength is marginal, fix the root cause -- get better antennas (while remaining with the legal Effective Radiated Power limits) and put them in the correct locations.
The physics of RF at 2.4 GHz haven't changed any recently, last I checked.
If you're running with a single bar for signal strength you haven't designed your RF patterns/system layout correctly. Fix that. Then a silly software bug that lowers signal strength by one bar will be as *yawn* unexciting as it was here...
Re:no problems here... (Score:5, Insightful)
Conversely I had the AP located 40cm away from the PowerBook, passing through 3cm of wood, and got repeated loss of signal (I'd still be joined to the network, but would be unable to pass IP traffic anywhere: even to ping the base station).
This was a 1.25Ghz AlBook connecting to an original Graphite base station. A G3 iBook connecting to the exact same base station from 2 rooms away was absolutely fine with the update installed, but the AlBook was lucky to last 5 minutes before losing the connection.
The physics of RF at 2.4 GHz haven't changed any recently, last I checked.
Although a lot of people complained about the signal strength dropping, there were definitely other problems with the previous release. I was still getting 5 bars, yet was unable to make a stable connection - absolutely nothing else changed on the Mac or the AP apart from this update, and since rolling it back I haven't lost the connection once.
Re:no problems here... (Score:2)
Re:hey dum-dum (Score:1)
Re:no problems here... (Score:1)
Hey wait a minute; I used noisy RF engineering principles too, and I thought the pie tin was an excellent way to make my Airport more directional (keeps the signals out of the neighbor's apartment, not to mention lets my powerbook "rebound"
Re:no problems here... (Score:2)
Firmware update or driver? (Score:1)
I use a powerbook but have linux installed on it. I have no idea what version the firmware is so I am reluctant to consider an update as it may effect the linux drivers. Can some one confirm that the drivers for linux will still work if this is a firmware "upgrade."
Re:Firmware update or driver? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Firmware update or driver? (Score:1)
On new (old-style) airport cards a very old firmware version is installed. If you use them under OS X, the first time you do, a new firmware version is automatically installed.
You notice this, because WEP doesn't work under Linux before the update, but after using the card under OS X it does.
Re:Firmware update or driver? (Score:2)
As I don't own an APBS, I think this whole FW problem was more related to the APBS than AirPort cards. This is because though I do not have any access point at home, I've been able to roam around at school quite normally without any signal problems with my APE-equipped PBook. And no, the access points there are definitely not Apple ones...
Big improvement (Score:3, Funny)
ABS losing WAN connectivity? (Score:2, Informative)
Anyone else experience problems with the ABS losing WAN connectivity with 3.4?
I have incoming SSH open, and I noticed that once a day (or every other day maybe) with 3.4 I would lose access from outside, and then when I got home, I noticed that I could ping the ABS but not any outside IP. The ABS still had a valid WAN address from DHCP, but somehow had lost the ability to get out through the cable modem.
Anyone else have this happen? and has it abated for you with 3.4.1?
Don't install Apple Updates Immediately (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Don't install Apple Updates Immediately (Score:2, Interesting)
Well, weak signals weren't my primary concern.... (Score:2, Informative)
The signal weaknesses weren't my primary concern about the 3.4 version. My problems were with actually connecting to my networks, and being blatantly dropped. Sometimes this resulted in me having to reboot my system.
With this update I could not wake from sleep and automagically get onto my home network. Other times I would be dropped, have to turn off Airport, and then turn it back on to even see the network. This didn't fix my problems a majority of the time. There is no real excuse about signal st