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BOYAKASHA (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8983366)


First Post! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8983370)

As title lamerz

Da 1st post? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8983372)


its stengths are easy! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8983376)

1. pr0n
2. uninformed babbling by consipracy freaks
3. iditiotic blogs noobody cares about

Re:its stengths are easy! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8983417)

4. lack of correct spelling in my haste to get a frist psot.

Re:its stengths are easy! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8983881)

Who would waste their precious mod points on an AC???

NETI@Home results (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8983378)

Beam me up Scotty. There's no intelligent life here!

Nero Institute Study (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8983383)

The NERO Insitute [nero-online.org] did a study that is similar.. except they used genetic algorithims and eucludian mapping techniques. Check it out (its on the front page).

Mac OS X Support (3, Interesting)

usermilk (149572) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983388)

Has anyone tried to compile this on Mac OS X? What were your results?

Re:Mac OS X Support (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8983455)

Why was this modded down? It seems like a valid question.

Re:Mac OS X Support (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8983465)

I was wondering the same thing, myself. Sigh.

Re:Mac OS X Support (3, Informative)

Nasarius (593729) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983731)

How exactly is this a troll? Maroons. Theoretically, it should compile as long as you have libpcap and Ethereal installed.

Re:Mac OS X Support (1)

sweet cunny muffin (771671) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983858)

Maroons? Ha ha ha ha ha... ha ha ha ha... *sigh*

Re:Mac OS X Support (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8984117)

Yeah, the Maroon part took me back, too.

Re:Mac OS X Support (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8984153)

If it was intentional, it was a reference to Bugs Bunny.

Too late, I'm booked! (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8983403)

All the spammers want me to install their software to help them get around bottlenecks.

Re:Too late, I'm booked! (2, Funny)

ComaVN (325750) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983938)

Why is that a troll? Sheesh.

Anyway, I've got to find a way to spoof results so that the lines closest to me appear to be the bottleneck. That way, there will be more money spent on improving my connection, right?

I'm in! (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8983409)

If it comes with a cool screensaver and can help find extraterrestrial intelligence, I'm in.

Re:I'm in! (4, Funny)

Aumaden (598628) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983646)

Well, since it's looking at the 'Net, it's clearly yet another futile search for evidence of terrestrial intelligence.

But I'm Cynical... (1)

lukewarmfusion (726141) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983412)

Just from the story summary, this sounds like a distributed attack.

Re:But I'm Cynical... (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8983886)

Just from the story summary, this sounds like a distributed attack.

Which is exactly why the phrase RTFA was created.

This project monitors your network performance, not constantly connecting to a single server. This raises privacy issues, but they're gladly doing something about that. There are options as to what you let it send, and the files it sends are stored locally so you can view them.

Reduce Load (4, Interesting)

rf0 (159958) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983418)

Well taking spam is put at between 30-50% of email usage how about getting rid of that for a start? Of course easier said than done


Re:Reduce Load (5, Interesting)

cexshun (770970) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983435)

And when you also take random port scanning into account, one could easily estimate at least half of all internet traffic is either spam or port/vulnerability scanning. Get rid of both of these and connection speeds will jump!

Re:Reduce Load (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8983914)

yeah, because connect() is such a bandwidth hog...

And the other 50-70% ? (1)

Bob9000 (186560) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983919)

Ha ha! You guys have to see this!

On Tuesday April 27, @09:00AM, rf0 said:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Well taking spam is put at between 30-50% of email usage
> > > > > > > > > how about getting rid of that for a start? Of course easier
> > > > > > > > > said than done

Re:Reduce Load (1)

tommasz (36259) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984007)

If nothing else, it might help to identify the real sources of spam in a way that reading through mail headers doesn't do. I'm assuming, of course, that there will eventually be mapping tools for the data GaTech collects.

Re:Reduce Load (1)

SacredNaCl (545593) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984136)

I remember reading somewhere that 80%-90% of web traffic is generated at about 20 sites on the net. If that is actually true (and given how much traffic is sent to places like Yahoo/Google/MSN I believe it's possible) it's plain to see that there will be bottlenecks. Perhaps the data would assist in finding them more quickly and updating those routes.

Re:Reduce Load (1)

appleprophet (233330) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984351)

Spam may be 50% of email usage, but how much of the net's traffic is email? Keep in mind that a spam message is around a few kilobytes. Even if you get 500 spams per day, that is a stunning figure of about one meg of traffic.

Re : NETI@Home to Examine Net's Strengths (1)

manavendra (688020) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983429)

Wouldn't spam be the first place to look at and lockdown? Or am i missing something?

I don't think so... (3, Interesting)

drfishy (634081) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983431)

Folding@Home is my distributed computing effort of choice.

How is this more worthwhile than that?

Re:I don't think so... (2, Insightful)

parksie (540658) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983628)

I doubt NETI@home will use a significant amount of your CPU time.

Re:I don't think so... (2, Informative)

bungley (768242) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983630)

Well, from what I read this doesn't whore your cpu, so there's nothing stopping you running both simultaneously.

Re:I don't think so... (5, Insightful)

lambent (234167) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983635)

Different people value things differently.

For example, a concerted effort to improve the quality of the net infrastructure could lead to more efficient distributed computing platforms, which means that eventually someone would write an improved folding program.

It's akin to an old computer science problem ... you can start a heavily computational algorithm now, and waste your time, or wait a few years for computers to be many times faster, and then do the parts of the calculation that you put off in a fraction of the time. Or wait a little longer ...

So, some people do the work now, and others work to improve the systems we use to do work. Seems worthwhile to me.

Personally, I run chessbrain [chessbrain.net] .

and the resources (4, Insightful)

MarsDude (74832) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983434)

and the financial resources to unblock those bottlenecks are raised with the money they make from selling those 'traffic patterns' to anyone who bids...

Re:and the resources (3, Informative)

espo812 (261758) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983808)

According to the article:
The data collected by NETI, sans anything that might personally identify volunteers, will also be made available to other network researchers and the general public on the NETI website. As the project picks up speed -- currently there are only a few dozen volunteers -- they expect to make the data available in real time.

Do something much more worthwhile. FOLD!!! (3, Insightful)

Nick Driver (238034) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983438)

If you're going to run any of these kinds of distributed clients, then you should run Folding@Home [stanford.edu] instead. The fruits of this work might just help save yours or a loved one's life someday.

Re:Do something much more worthwhile. FOLD!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8983730)

RTFA... its pretty obvious that this does not use CPU time, but just monitors how the network is being used...

Re:Do something much more worthwhile. FOLD!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8983901)

Hello?! "...does not use CPU time..."?! If it's running on a computer, it's using CPU time. Maybe not a lot of it, but it's still using it. It's not exactly installed in the firmware of the NIC/Modem.

Re:Do something much more worthwhile. FOLD!!! (2, Funny)

Stregone (618612) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984217)

You web browser is using CPU time. Hurry up and close it before it wastes any more!

Re:Do something much more worthwhile. FOLD!!! (3, Interesting)

jafuser (112236) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983742)

Somehow I doubt the NETI client will be using all your CPU cycles to analyse things. It sounds to me like it's more of just a distributed network monitoring tool, so the two probably could cooperate together just fine.

The mean... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8983446)

NETI? What does it means? Let me see... Non Exists That Intelligence?

Cool! Fewer spare cycles on my computer! (2, Funny)

eltoyoboyo (750015) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983448)

Maybe it can battle SETI@HOME, Kazaa, and Norton Antivirus for all of my CPU cycles, disk bandwidth and network bandwidth. It will not even leave me enough power to compose all my correspondence in notepad.

Don't just give those cycles away! Sell them! [popularpower.com]

Popular Power? (1)

spoonyfork (23307) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984246)

Has anyone signed up with Popular Power [popularpower.com] and if so, has anyone gotten paid by it? How do they pay you? That's not in the FAQ.

Re:Popular Power? (1)

Fred_A (10934) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984331)

You're paid in computer time on your machine.

Provide a bazillion cycles, you can run tetris for 5 minutes.

SETI or NETI? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8983449)

Arggh Its every geeks worst scheduling nightmare! Do I want the aliens or the faster pr0n. Dang what a scheduling conflict.

get ready... (0, Flamebait)

spangineer (764167) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983453)

Simpson also envisions using NETI data to produce a chart of the best and worse Internet service providers, in terms of performance and security. Look out AOL.

This just in from the future... (5, Funny)

Scorchio (177053) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983462)

Researchers at Georgia Tech are concluding their two-year distributed analysis of network usage, concluding that most bottlenecks were, in fact, caused by NETI@Home traffic.

NETI@Home results (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8983466)

Internet traffic composition:

49.7% 0
49.7% 1
00.6% Other

Re:NETI@Home results (2, Interesting)

photon317 (208409) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983755)

Actually, I would bet that the 0's and 1's are not evenly distributed, considering how much of packet contents are unencrypted text, and that the protocol headers are bound to have bias, as are the assigned IP addresses that are most heavily used, etc...

Re:NETI@Home results (3, Informative)

Sepper (524857) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983849)

For those who wanted to know what the 'Other' might be [acc-eda.com]

IEEE 1164 std_logic
'U' Uninitialized
'X' Unknown
'0' Logic 0 (driven)
'1' Logic 1 (driven)
'Z' High impedance
'W' Weak 1
'L' Logic 0 (read)
'H' Logic 1 (read)
'-' Don't-care

I Have an exam involving this stuff (VHDL) Tomorrow... so I thought some of you might want to know... (But i'm sure most of you just '-' )

Re:NETI@Home results (1)

palndrumm (416336) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984038)

00.6% Other

Only if there's robots out there having nightmares...
"1's and 0's everywhere... and I thought I saw a 2!" -- Bender, "The Honking" (Futurama season 3).

Jenna Jameson creates WETI (1, Funny)

ispcay (618838) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983499)

In a joint venture with the pr0n industry Jenna creates a network dedicated to increasing the pr0n industry 10 fold.

Impressive... (1)

sv25 (773540) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983509)

Before reading the article I had visions of someone profiting from the data collected... Anyways, I'm glad to see I was horribly wrong. I think the idea has a bright future for making the Internet stronger.

Immediately I don't see the data being creditable enough for upstream providers to use. However, in time, I see the project being an excellent model for Internet improvment!

I'd take part in this activity myself... I mean... There are always a *few* CPU cycles a day that aren't being used to stream pr0n ;)

spyware. (1)

sumdumass (711423) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983524)

sounds like something as inocent as an installer for spyware. Just hope pop-ups don't start happening after I load it.

Tin Foil Hat Time (3, Interesting)

CygnusXII (324675) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983540)

Ok Call me crazy, but somehow I see this information, crossing the boundry and making it off the reservation. One clever Hack, is probably all it would take. Better yet I see, the University as a Governmentally Funded Entity, somehow coerced by the Dept. of Homeland Security, into passing over the Data, or The program being Co-opted into some sort of Covert monitoring Utility, with a Cleverly conceled Opt-In, hidden in an Streamlined Update.

Want a good way to spot all those Heavy Bandwidth, Warzer's and P2P Traders? Also how long before the Data gets Mined for some purpose, as well. No matter how, well intentioned, and no matter what they say, about their privacy, settings, it can be Co-opted, if someone wants the information.

Re:Tin Foil Hat Time (1)

UCRowerG (523510) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983604)

Exactly what I was thinking... an exploit is found and/or marketing researchers get ahold of the data to create more annoying banners and popups. The article did say that the results would be available to anyone.

Re:Tin Foil Hat Time (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8984324)

Oh I'm sure they know all about your prOn collection by now, anyway...

Re:Tin Foil Hat Time (1)

jimsum (587942) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984437)

I'm not sure you really need to worry about this, I don't see how it gives any extra capabilities. If you are trading stuff, obviously you are somehow advertising its presence, otherwise no one would know to copy it from you. You don't need special spyware to determine what is available for trade, the programs that facilitate the trading can find the sharers.

Faster? (5, Funny)

akeyes (720106) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983560)

They want to figure out how to make the Internet faster and more reliable, but to do that they need to gather data from tens of thousands of personal computers around the world.

So, they want to make it faster by having people send out and receive more data.

dial-up (1)

tearmeapart (674637) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983562)

Having dial-up is a bottleneck.

Especially since I am writting little programs to automatically mirror pages slightly before they are slashdotted...

For those who want the link: @NETI [gatech.edu]

Unfortunately, it seems @NETI does not quite do real-time, but others, like netcraft [netcraft.com] do do realtime (although netcraft only measures one server.
Why doesn't someone just write a script to interpret netcraft results, using one of the many [google.ca] ip address locators?

Sounds like a perfect worm candidate (2, Insightful)

jerky42 (264624) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983567)

and you could tell who hasnt patched their machines.

low, medium, high settings (4, Insightful)

zogger (617870) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983599)

just looked at their THIS AIN'T SPYWARE, RILLY! page. Well, what else is it but that? Of course it is, just for their claim to be a benevolent purpose, it's "whitehat" spying to be totally fair about it. But, we don't know if any "blackhats" will get the information over to the university, or--well, if any foreign states might have an interest in it and some of the juicer info gets transferred to some other places that might have a different idea on what to do with the information. Could be, anyone who's seen the demographics at most unis would have to agree, and tech has a lot of students that might have loyalties other than what is publically presented here. Just a note, but it's valid.

The high security setting is the one I predicteth gets used the most by people who run it, for obvious reasons.

hmm, probable bottlenecks. Whenever the latest mega worm hits you'll see which routers choke easiest. Massive constant traffic from owned and zombiefied end users home machines, that should be fairly random and even. Pockets/areas where file sharing is still big. And places with a derth of fat pipes obviously.

Interesting project, but I will have to think on it some if I want to run it. Also, maybe I am not seeing it, but it doesn't seem to have any info on how much of your machine it uses, I see the operating system requirements,installation, etc, but not the resources required. Anyone see that? My apologies if I missed it.

"Strengthen the Net"? (4, Insightful)

heironymouscoward (683461) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983601)

One of the defining characteristics of the Net seems to have been its ability to defy planning and design.

Even simply "increasing capacity" without addressing specific bottlenecks is often a waste of time. Look at the heavy investment in fibre-optics, most of which lies unused as new technology squeezes more and more out of existing cables.

Call me a cynic, but such projects sound more like fun for research grants than useful for real life.

My humble opinion of the Net is that it is a largely a self-steering phenomena that feeds on change and technology cycles. Since you can't predict change, and you can't prevent the technology cycles that cause it, it's meaningless to hope to plan this.

Re:"Strengthen the Net"? (2, Insightful)

jimsum (587942) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984520)

I disagree, I think the extra information might be valuable. As an analogy, suppose you could put instrumentation in cars to determine how people drive. With this information you might be able to simulate a road system, and perhaps determine which light timings maximize traffic flow. Maybe traffic is too complicated for something like this to work, and certainly building a new mall will change traffic patterns, but you have to collect the information and try it before you know for sure.

What? No Details? (1)

north.coaster (136450) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983617)

I read the Wired article, looking for more details on how NETI@Home actually worked, or at least how much overhead it would add to the average computer and/or nrtwork connection. Of course there was no technical information at all. It's starting to look like a lot of fluff.


Re:What? No Details? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8983657)

you're not very familiar with Wired, are you?

Just what we need... (1)

catdevnull (531283) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983665)

An army of packet sniffers from around the world. Hmmmm. Hope these super powers stay in the hands of do-gooders...

NEWSFLASH! (3, Informative)

hyperstation (185147) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983690)

if you're that concerned about spyware, READ THE *SOURCE* and see what it does!

it's not like you're being asked to install a random binary and run it 24/7....

Re:NEWSFLASH! (2, Insightful)

Ghengis (73865) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983786)

I agree with you. Being able to read the source sets my mind at ease. The only problem is that the general public will not read the source. They will just remain paranoid, because many cannot understand the source. Another potential problem is someone altering the source to skew the results. This is one reason why they need *alot* of people to do it... so that someone doing this source hack has less of an impact on the total results.


hyperstation (185147) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983882)

both of your points are valid:

The only problem is that the general public will not read the source. They will just remain paranoid, because many cannot understand the source.

i believe that ignorance and the lack of motivation to learn is a very poor excuse...however some of us can understand the source right now, and the say-so of the learned will be what those who don't read the source have to go on. i myself don't plan on doing this - i have far too many other pressing things.

Another potential problem is someone altering the source to skew the results.

md5 for source packages, and only get it from a reputable source or mirror... :)


BCW2 (168187) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984083)

That is a good solution with one flaw. Most people can't read the source because most are not programmers. The ones that need to run this are the ones that cause the problems, click on everything, by from SPAM, get in fected with virii, and infested with adware/malware. This would highlight the biggest problems. Otherwise it won't help much of anything.

Re:NEWSFLASH! #2 (1)

Cragen (697038) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984466)

My universty email address gets as much spam as any of my other addresses. In my school's case, I am willing to bet that a someone either sold or hacked the email db. That someone could be a student, Uni. employee, or whatever. Giving a University any data about me voluntarily does not seem like a good idea. Good source or not.


Neti vs Nest (1)

sausagewrangler (774888) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983744)

Neti sounds all well and good but has anyone tried nest [c6.org] a SETI inspired look at corruption online cool visualiser stats and a world map to place yourself in the chinese whispers ring. will hardly solve problems but may entertain when all else is going wrong.

YOU FAIL IT (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8983769)

Every day...Like HUBBARD AND MIKE also dead, its The project faces,

Data gathering (1)

tedric (8215) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983790)

From Wikipedia:

Strictly defined, spyware is computer software that gathers information about a computer user without the user's knowledge or informed consent, and then transmits this information to an organisation that expects to be able to profit from it in some way.

Ok, this is not spyware - strictly defined and mentioned on the NETI@home webpage in every second sentence.

There are a lot more usefull distributed computing projects out there (folding@home for example), and why is everyone starting such a project? What will the data be used for? "To make the Internet a better place"? Yeah, right, I'm so convinced.

Before I participate in such a project, I would like to have much more information about what results are expected and what the consequences will be. This sounds more like they don't want to do the research by themselves. ISPs refuse to give away their data - they already analyze their networks and would have all the data needed. They surely don't give the data away for free as in beer - it would be better if they wouldn't do so at all.

This sounds like a really shirt-sleeved way to try to improve "The Internet". From a university I would expect a more sophisticated way, say, in improving protocols, arguing about and convincing the industry to switch to IPv6 and so on...

Of Course its About Data gathering (3, Interesting)

TubeSteak (669689) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984090)

You seem to question the reasoning behind their idea... Its called QoS or Quality of Service. and I'm bet you're right, ISPs do it & won't give away their #s. So thats the point, independant QoS tests. Once you start thinking of the Internet as infrastructure & not a service, it makes a lot more sense.

Imagine if instead they were offering a little box that you plug into your wall and then into the internet. It will measure just about everything, from voltage fluctuation to how many watt hours you draw... and it'll report this back to someone who's trying to build an independant quality map of your nation's infrastructure. Is this any better/worse of an idea? Like they said, you can never have to much information.

Not likely (1)

afidel (530433) | more than 9 years ago | (#8983999)

Reducing net bottlenecks would require eliminating the profit motives of the Tier-2 and Tier-3 ISP's. It is impossible to run a profitable ISP that does not over-subscribe lines AND charges what most people seem willing to pay for broadband ( Europe connections and the single large North America Australia connection. These aren't things some academics studying net usage reports are going to be able to solve, they are purely based on economics.

Post-Monitoring / Backbone Upgrade Story (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8984166)

Viruses, Spam Spreading At Unprecedented Speed! It's almost as if the've got their own right-of-ways now.

er... tinhat guys... (1)

GoNINzo (32266) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984325)

Should I really care all that much if they're sniffing me? I mean, I assume everyone is sniffing me, which is why I encrypt most everything...

Who came up with that name?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8984344)

"With NETI, we're searching for network intelligence -- intelligence about the way the Internet works so we can make it work better,"

Sounds like the marketing students came up with that one, nice to see them catch the 'lets mislead the consumer' bug so early on in their career. Seems like a pretty good pr seminar too how they defend using a similar name for something totally different by making their subject sound similar to the famous one by use similar phrases.

It's pretty sick. I found foobar@home a nice name for helping researchers who can't afford computing power. But this is you being a research subject for statistical research and has nothing to do with giving a researcher a helping hand. Next I'll get called on my phone if I want to help with the project insuranceinfo@home ...

Then again it may be the marketing students who have asked them selves: how can we research those guys who block all our tools? I know how; we call the tool NETI@home science research, they will fall for that.

Why not do without the cloak and just call it the speed_optimize_the_internet_for_me research program.
I wouldn't have any trouble with it then. Oh, wait they are being trained to become ministers of misinformation and can't think straight.

Not In My BackYard (2, Insightful)

sciop101 (583286) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984369)

When does research data become intelligence data? If research data shows a possible criminal pattern, is NETI(Georgia Tech) responsible to report to the authorities/law enforcement? Can Georgia Tech afford not to report? In this day it is refreshing to find researcher naivete. "to make the Internet faster and more reliable" "where it will be analyzed and made available to anyone else who wants to use it for their own Internet improvement projects"

Rating ISPs (I'll believe when I see it) (1)

Shadowhawk (30195) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984516)

Simpson says, "I would imagine it would be quite embarrassing for a major ISP if they were found to have the worst connections."
Says I, "I imagine it would be quite interesting to see how fast major ISPs block NETI."

I see a problem with this.... (3, Informative)

mu_wtfo (224511) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984524)

NETI@home apparently uses CAIDA's "NetGeo" database to map network addresses to geographic locations. However, the NetGeo home page [caida.org] proclaims (in big red type):
NOTE: NetGeo has not been actively maintained for
several years, and this will probably not change in the foreseeable future. As a result, there are several known major issues affecting accuracy and service availability. Please be warned that NetGeo may give wildly incorrect results, especially for recently allocated or re-assigned IP addresses.

That might make it just a bit useless, no?

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<ecode>    while(1) { do_something(); } </ecode>
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