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MP3.com Hastily Re-launches -- But Will It Fly?

CmdrTaco posted more than 9 years ago | from the maybe-if-it-sucks-less dept.

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macdaddypunk writes "Today CNET Networks unveiled the service that has taken them five months to build: the new (but not-necessarily-improved) MP3.com. The site offers free downloads and a place to upload music, but it lacks the extra features of the original MP3.com, and it has a meager selection of barely 2,000 artists. The best part: their charts are literally random (songs are sorted by number of downloads, currently zero for all songs!). Smells like a hasty launch, perhaps rushed by last week's news that the original MP3.com archive (1.7 million songs) has been resurrected by another free MP3 download site, GarageBand.com."

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The short answer? (-1, Troll)

Gay Nigger (676904) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984113)

No. Because MP3.com is for gay niggers.

Re:The short answer? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8984293)

GNAA should be all over this [metafilter.com]!!

Jim Crow wasn't right for niggers,
it's still not right for gays.

Hell, it's not even a "gay" issue. It's a simple matter of treating everyone fairly.

in a word (-1, Offtopic)

squarefish (561836) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984157)

no. itms is still king and will probably remain so as long as the record companies are kept at bay regarding their desire to increase the cost of each song- then it will all just revert back to the whatever the best p2p software is at the time.

Re:in a word (3, Insightful)

Omni Magnus (645067) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984207)

Uh NO. Itunes doesn't have near as many downloads as Imesh, Edonkey, etc. You cannot beat having millions of songs in storage and no DRM.

Re:in a word (1)

lukewarmfusion (726141) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984213)

You clearly didn't RTFA... or even the story summary. Did you just read the title and respond to that? Would you write a book review based on the dust jacket?

Re:in a word (1)

chegosaurus (98703) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984368)

> Would you write a book review based on the dust jacket?

Or form an opinion on a piece of software without even using it? Oh, sorry, forgot where I was for a moment.

Re:in a word (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8984665)

Would you write a book review based on the dust jacket?

I frequently pick my porn^H^H^H^Hmovies based on the covers. :)

Re:in a word (1)

the_mad_poster (640772) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984849)

No, the typical Slashdotter would probably write the review based on the excerpts on the dust jackets of other books on the surrounding shelves.

Re:in a word (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8984282)

I can guarantee you DC++ have more transfers than itms. And if nothing happens Apple will in the end have 3% of the market just by alienating themselves from all other companies. Like not licensing fairplay. They always want it all, they never succeed.

All they have are loudmouth yuppie customers.

w00t (3, Funny)

mastergoon (648848) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984161)

At least theres even more advertisements than last time, something to look at while I download right?

Re:w00t (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8985884)

uh... what ads? I didn't see any on the site.

OP is BS - please mod down (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8986310)

uh... what ads? I didn't see any on the site.

Neither did I. 20 downloads, 2 separate occasions, no ads.

I've been watching their boards for a while and people have been asking where they will get their revenue.

I'm calling bullsh*t on the OP and request that he be modded down. I don't think he even UTFS (used the site). If he did, maybe he needs to get rid of the spyware/adware on his machine.

It might fly for awhile. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8984168)

But don't expect open source music to compete with RIAA-backed professional made music. If these guys were any good, they'd be getting sponsored too.

Re:It might fly for awhile. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8984426)

Yeah kinda' like if you had an opinion, you wouldn't post as an AC, huh?

Re:It might fly for awhile. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8984486)

You're right. What's an MP3?

Re:It might fly for awhile. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8984438)

WTF is open source music!?!

Re:It might fly for awhile. (1)

poptones (653660) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984682)

example1, example 2, and example 3 of why this is a supremely antiquated notion.

But then, what should one expect in a forum where someone touting the real world possibilities for self employment in today's job market is modded "troll?"

Harrumph.

Re:It might fly for awhile. (1)

poptones (653660) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984730)

Let's try it again:

example1 [magnatune.com], example 2 [magnatune.com], and example 3 [thecreatures.com] of why this is a supremely antiquated notion...

Yes, I replied to a troll... hype knows no boundaries.

Changed the name then... (4, Interesting)

REBloomfield (550182) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984182)

It was http://www.mp3isback.com, which redirects, but they obviosuly though better of using it...

WTF? (1)

scifience (674659) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984193)

The layout is ugly, it doesn't work right in browsers other than IE, and is tied in with that stupid Download.com. Any day now they'll be wanting you to install some stupid (IE only) browser plugin to download anything just like they did with GameSpot (anybody remember that pre-CNET?) and with half of the listings on Download.com.

Re:WTF? (5, Informative)

mastergoon (648848) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984278)

Yeah looks fine in Firefox. One thing I was actually impressed with was their use of CSS. In Firefox you can switch between the stylesheets, they offer multiple text sizes, and a layout stripped of most graphics. The button to switch them in firefox is in the bottom left corner.

The color scheme may not be great, but the use of CSS is above average (though that is no use at all often).

Re:WTF? (1)

scifience (674659) | more than 9 years ago | (#8985020)

Sorry, didn't test it in Firefox. I was basing it on Konquerer, and things that look right in Konquerer usually look right in Firefox and things that don't look right in Konquerer tend not to work too well in Mozilla either. Next time I'll be sure to check better. :-)

Re:WTF? (1)

ischorr (657205) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984499)

What is it that doesn't work right exactly?

If something doesn't, make sure you email them to let them know...

Re:WTF? (1)

`Sean (15328) | more than 9 years ago | (#8986871)

Already have. They're using non-standard comments in some of the CSS blocks that cause ICE and other embedded browsers to puke horribly.

Excellent live music site... (5, Informative)

cTbone (632308) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984197)

People interested in downloading music might also want to check out the Internet Archive's Live Audio Archive [archive.org] which offers both mp3 and lossless shn compressed audio for free.

Re:Excellent live music site... (2, Informative)

thisissilly (676875) | more than 9 years ago | (#8986362)

People may also want to check out FurthurNet.com [furthurnet.com] for legal P2P live music downloads, mostly jam-bands (Grateful Dead, Phish, CSNY), but some others you might not expect (AC/DC, Beastie Boys, Frank Black). I should mention it is concert-set oriented, not track oriented, so things are not set up to let you download just one song you are looking for. Instead, you download whole live shows.

Mp3.com's archive (3, Interesting)

Nick of NSTime (597712) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984206)

I am very pleased to hear that mp3.com's archive of songs has been resurrected by another site. I was blown away when I read that the mp3s were being deleted. It reminds me of those Dr. Who episodes that are forever lost because the BBC didn't think it important to archive them.

Re:Mp3.com's archive (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8984373)

It reminds me of those Dr. Who episodes that are forever lost because the BBC didn't think it important to archive them.

It wasn't.

Re:Mp3.com's archive (2, Informative)

Yaruar (125933) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984592)

Shame that they are charging artists an exorbitant fee to recover the songs and put them back up.

99 dollars to resurrect the account then 3 songs recovered for free then after that 7 odd dollars every song recovered.

One of my friends was a top selling mp3.com artist and he had hundreds of songs on mp3.com and it would literally cost him thousands of dollars to get them on there again.....

Are you sure? (4, Informative)

Dlugar (124619) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984914)

Maybe they've changed it ... according to this page [garageband.com], you can recover the account, plus three songs, for free, and get additional songs hosted for $6.99 each.

Or, alternatively, you can simply pay a one-time fee of $99 to get all your songs back, no ads on your band's page, and unlimited hosting for all your songs for life.

Well, so says the site, anyway. Can anyone verify if it's true?

Dlugar

Re:Are you sure? (3, Informative)

chimpo13 (471212) | more than 9 years ago | (#8986543)

Yes, great idea there. mp3 never paid my band the money they owed us and they wouldn't answer email's asking about the money. At first it was "We'll answer within 5-10 business days" and months later it became "You need to pay us to answer your email".

Will it be the same thing at garageband? Why should I pay them money so they can make money selling my songs? I was signing up with garageband and said, "ah screw this". Dang kids these days.

As Sykes said in Wild Bunch, "Caught you didn't they? Tied a tin can to your tail. Led you in and waltzed you out again. Oh my what a bunch. Big tough ones huh? Here you are with a hand full of holes, a thumb up your ass, and a big grin to pass the time of day with."

I've put the songs on my server with a donation box (not that I'm expecting donations). So if you're looking for free generic punk rock Star Trek songs....

Re:Mp3.com's archive (1)

spoot (104183) | more than 9 years ago | (#8985984)

Geeze.. I'm glad they sent me an email that "the couldn't find my account." They want a hundred bucks to resurrect it. you gotta be freekin kidding.

Are you sure they have all the old songs? (1)

hpulley (587866) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984609)

Perhaps I was one of the few (out of millions of plays) who liked some Trance music bands like Lagoona but I don't see them there on www.garageband.com [garageband.com] or several others I tried. PPK [garageband.com] was the only one I found (sounds like Faithless and Scooter? I don't think so...). Is it there yet or ComingSoon(TM)?

Depends on whether they Opted Out (2, Funny)

tepples (727027) | more than 9 years ago | (#8985046)

Garageband.com doesn't have songs by those bands that opted out of Trusonic's commercial background music stream service.

Re:Mp3.com's archive (1)

clifyt (11768) | more than 9 years ago | (#8985800)

The difference is that the BBC wrote and produced those shows. They owned them and lost them.

Mp3.com never owned those files. They weren't theirs to give to anyone else. If anything was lost, it is lost solely because the original author did not think to use a $0.10 CD and put it in a vault (and periodically back up the data).

I was a little miffed when they took down the archives -- I had a few remix pieces I did for others and gave them all the media associated with, in which they put them on MP3.com and to this day don't know where the backups were. It was their stuff, so I can't complain too much (I look at remix work solely as hired hand -- yeah, it might require some creativity and otherwise, but the beginning and end products were someone elses).

In the end, its the author thats the sole person in charge of making certain their content is in tact.

MP3.com hasn't relaunched (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8984230)

MP3.com hasn't relaunched, you only have your splash page there along with a link to a separate free service provided by cnet as a part of download.com. Not the same thing.

Re:MP3.com hasn't relaunched (1)

Pranjal (624521) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984446)

Yup that's true

From music.download.com's FAQ

Q: What is the difference between MP3.com and Download.com Music?

A: Download.com Music will be a free artist upload and download site that is part of Download.com. We are currently accepting submissions for this forthcoming site, which is launching in mid-April. MP3.com will evolve into a comprehensive information and discovery site for music fans, helping them enjoy the exciting world of digital music to the fullest.


Is it me only or do both the sites sound like the same thing?

GarageBand.com? (3, Funny)

Paulrothrock (685079) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984249)

"Release the legal hounds." - Steve Jobs

Re:GarageBand.com? (2, Informative)

PZona (628953) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984451)

Nah, he's cool. GarageBand.com and Apple signed an agreement to share the name back in '03.

Re:GarageBand.com? (3, Informative)

ps_inkling (525251) | more than 9 years ago | (#8986179)

Call off the hounds [garageband.com].

Apple is paying for the use of the name "GarageBand" for their music compostion software included with iLife [apple.com]. The agreement was signed in April 2003, according to GarageBand.

So, Apple was working on GarageBand in early 2003?

Indies (3, Interesting)

platypibri (762478) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984255)

I am completely in support of any system that supports local and independant artits. That is where the real musical soul of America is. (apologies to international users) I'm tired of just accepting what ever the industry decides is worth of my attention. Not that there is not talent in the industry. I just feel the industry squashes artistic development. Welcome back MP3.com. There is ALWAYS room to grow.

Re:Indies (1)

ginwizard (759142) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984301)

It is possible that we as consumers are undermining the potential of local/indie artists. I find it interesting that records like Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band still charts after decades, even though you can P2P every beatles song ever for free. Perhaps we need to accept paying more for a record in order to give voice to things other than least-common-denominator radio-friendly meat.

Re:Indies (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8984315)

i prefer commercial artists like britney, being an Aussie, I would really like to see her down under!

Re:Indies (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8985197)

This is the internet, there is nothing "local" about this.

And there is a LOT more to music than American stuff, and all over the world the same problem exists: musicians trying to get their stuff out there. Big record labels and struggling indies
are a problem all over the world. And that was the great thing about mp3.com: it wasn't American-centric, it had TONS of music from all over the world. Everytime a story about mp3.com comes up people start posting links to other mp3 websites. The problem with most of these websites is that they're mainly American, or at best Anglophone. The cool thing about mp3.com was that it let me explore music from all over the world, not just the same rehashed Anglo styles.

This might be a good thing. (5, Interesting)

Bill, Shooter of Bul (629286) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984262)

Ye olde mp3.com was cluttered up with all of these stupid free songs from big commercial artists. While that was sort of good, it skewed all of the rankings and pushed all of the undiscovered talent down. Thats what used to be good about mp3.com back in the day. I think it would be a much better idea to seprerate the big well known groups from the indipendents. Hopefully, because MP3.com is nolonger owned by a record label it will just be a venue for discovering new independant artists. And that would make me happy.

easy hit (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8984263)

yay, another site that lets me play my music to people across the world in a crappy compressed format.

man, i thought we would have a real digital audio revolution. where's all the 5.1 releases of commercial music instead of the degraded and sometimes not even stereo imitations we are being forced to pay almost as much as CD's for?

- sweet jesus

Can't fly, all artst material is at garageband (4, Interesting)

192939495969798999 (58312) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984269)

Even though you have to pay to get it back, Garageband has the old material. Mp3.com got 99% of their old hits from artists like me doing stuff with their pages from their houses. Without that bedroom industry support, they will be lost in the sea of half-RIAA-sponsored shelac. Might as well use live365.com to listen to mp3 radio of whatever you want -- at least then you don't have to pay too much to get commercial-free radio in your favorite genre. I will continue to make music, but I will only link to it from sites like this (back to my own site)... i'm not paying money so that my hard work gets lost in a sea of RIAA red tape.

Re:Can't fly, all artst material is at garageband (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8984345)

and it sucks.

IUMA.org is better, has better artists, and overall refuses to host any songs from anyone that is signed with anyone.

There are better alternatives (5, Interesting)

GatorMan (70959) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984283)

Try other sites like www.myglobalsound.com instead. Everything MP3.com should have been the first time around. It was created by a couple geeks and runs on Linux, too! Think MP3.com value plus ITMS ease-of-use plus Google variety. I'm filling up my third custom music disc as I type. Always find something good (and new!) there.

Re:There are better alternatives (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8984567)

they don't have shit, period! I have NO idea what you're making discs out of...but every serach I've done only returns THREE FUCKING BANDS per GENRE.

Move along, folks; nothing to see....

Re:There are better alternatives (1)

GatorMan (70959) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984858)

Nice post AC. There are over one thousand artists and the service only launched in March. Besides, it's not just for downloading cheap/indie music. It's also there to help artists develop themselves. The more it's used, the bigger it will get. Granted they don't have CNET money and you probably wont see their ads in PC World magazine. But you will see them in Underlined Magazine [underlinedmagazine.com] and Vision Music USA [visionmusicusa.com].

Re:There are better alternatives (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8985317)

Besides, it's not just for downloading cheap/indie music.

In other words; it's a circle jerk which doesn't have anything to offer your average music listener.

As I said before: move along, folks....

Re:There are better alternatives (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8985029)

Global?! The search form has a separate drop-down menu for American states. Most of the music is American. There's nothing global about this. It's just more American-centered crap. Worst, it's American crap that tries to pose as "global." Fuck this.

And if you think mp3.com should have been a collection of mainly American music, fuck you too!

Re:There are better alternatives (1)

GatorMan (70959) | more than 9 years ago | (#8986883)

Argentina, Austria, Canada, Denmark, Germany, Israel, Italy, United Kingdom and lastly United States. It's there in plain text. Looks 'Global' to me, especially for a new service. Want to see more folk music from Qatar? Tell a musician in Qatar about the site!

I'm not going to fight a bunch of AC posters on something I don't make money from. But if you're going to attack me, at least have proof. I'm happy with what I've found, and so is the only other non-AC to post here.

Re:There are better alternatives (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8986203)

mp3.com ran on linux you dope

Re:There are better alternatives (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8986941)

did anyone say it didnt? read much?

2000+ artists (5, Informative)

serenarae (154753) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984285)

My boyfriend is an artist on mp3.com, and the somewhat small artist count is due to the fact that they only let artists start signing up about 2 weeks ago. To top that off, if you were trying to sign up, you were going to run in to some sort of net traffic due to the other hundreds of artists trying to sign up. Give them some time, they're still rebuilding.

Re:2000+ artists (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8984413)

Newsflash: Your boyfriend needs to get a job, and you need to get a new boyfriend.

The Free Alternative (5, Informative)

poptones (653660) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984336)

iTunes Mac OSX Files Now available on Magnatune [magnatune.com]

New format available: all albums are now available for download as highest-quality Apple Macintosh AAC files, compressed into a Mac-native Stuffit archive. All the meta-information (song name, artist, year, album) is stored in the AAC file so that you can just drop the files into iTunes and they're perfectly recognized. And unlike AAC files bought from the iTunes shop, these AAC files are as unemcumbered by DRM (digital rights management).

If anyone here hasn't yet checked out magnatune, you should. There are some great acts and you can get exactly what most of us have been screaming for: un-DRM files of the highest possible quality and YOU set the price.

The Crackdown on P2P vs. Digital Distribution (5, Interesting)

List of FAILURES (769395) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984406)

I wish MP3.com well as they may yet provide another outlet for independent artists that are having trouble getting through the "old boys" network of the RIAA. Just because someone doesn't have a contract doesn't mean that they suck. And that's what the RIAA is afraid of.

Being a musician in my own right, I've been considering the idea of using a P2P client for distribution of my music. Since *I* would be the copyright holder, it would be completely legitimate and get my music heard. In the effort to destroy the RIAA's stranglehold over the music business, I would encourage any of you with a creative bent to distribute your works via P2P. After all, fame is worth a lot more than money because fame can get you places that money can't. I have been experimenting with P2P clients like MUTE [sourceforge.net] and the interesting new file sharing pardigm Konspire [sourceforge.net]. Konspire has the interesting side effect of turning P2P around into something like what Usenet used to be, only it's a LOT cooler.

My suggestions:
-Try out MUTE
-Try out Konspire
-If you are creative, focus on getting your name known via P2P
-Once you have an established reputation, you can keep your fans happy with some free tracks/videos/writing and some exclusive stuff that they would happily pay for. It's the best of both worlds.

2000 = barely???? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8984414)

umm thats a ton dude

Alternatives (1)

mirio (225059) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984457)

Sounds like a time to try some alternatives like GigaTracks [gigatracks.com]. (I have no affiliation with them, I just like the service).

new mp3.com not yet launched (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8984479)

From mp3.com:

The all-new MP3.com will launch by late spring 2004. We're excited to unveil our new look for MP3.com users both old and new.

There is a banner on that page for music.download.com, which has been there for a long time. music.download.com is another one of CNET's services, but it is not the new mp3.com! mp3.com will be relaunched soon by CNET.

The story is incorrect!

GASSSPP!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8984538)

A reader submit incorrect information? A Slashdot editor not research and verify the content before posting? You gotta be kidding me! Stop the presses!!!

meh.. (3, Informative)

mrelectricocean (771591) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984500)

my band used to have 2 mp3s up on mp3.com.. are all the old archives back up? here in the UK all the local bands started using www.acidplanet.com or www.purevolume.com as a substitue for mp3.com, purevolume is pretty good from what ive seen. example : www.purevolume.com/appease

Re:meh.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8984795)

What a cheap plug.

Soundclick (4, Informative)

Jack Wagner (444727) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984577)

Soundclick [soundclick.com] is where all the cool kids hang out. It's FREE (like NPR) and has tons of Indie crap for you to listen to.

Warmest Regards,
--Jack

Re:Soundclick (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8985006)

...all the cool kids hang out.


As a geeky old nerd I find this terribly intimidating.

Re:Soundclick, er CDGoRound (1)

faust13 (535994) | more than 9 years ago | (#8986127)

Don't forget my favourite CDGoRound (http://www.cdgoround.com). While not as many artists as SoundClick, but CDGoRound has one terrific feature: an online CD Trading forum!

perhaps (1)

VanillaCoke420 (662576) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984594)

Maybe if they bring back the entire thing that was there before, then yes. But why in the name of all that is good and pure did they remove everything? What was the bloody point of that?

We only accept 192Kbps MP3 files in stereo with 44 (2, Informative)

Forget4it (530598) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984853)

We only accept 192Kbps MP3 files in stereo with 44KHz sampling. and you get 50MB free space so that sounds like about half and album.




But what about the quality of the music? (3, Informative)

alienprotocol (163384) | more than 9 years ago | (#8984867)

I realize that a concept like "quality of music" is pretty abstract, since beauty is usually always in the eye of the beholder... but being flooded with poor quality music was really the thing that caused mp3.com to eventually become a site i visited less and less.

so now mp3.com relaunches. yawn. is this 1996 all over again? how long before they assemble a mountain of crap that makes the true gems even harder to find?

i'm using http://www.mp3jackpot.com and http://www.mp34u.com these days to save time finding the "quality" free mp3's from those artists smart enough to give away a track or two in order to compete.

and hey, i'm also helping to find songs for mp34u.com - and it has been pretty fun so far.

SGAE (Spanish version of RIAA) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8985012)

About SGAE (spanish) canon on CDs:

Ladrones [www.sgae.es]

Por qué ladrones? No se supone que velan por los derechos de los artistas?

Creo que este texto extraído de FaqSincanon [hispalinux.es] se explica por sí sólo:

Según el artículo 155.2 de la LPI una parte debe gastarse en asistencia y formación de los socios de la SGAE, que según dice el artículo 39.2 del Real Decreto 1434/92, de 27 de noviembre es en la actualidad un 20% de lo obtenido. El 80% restante se reparte entre un 50% autores, un 25% intérpretes y otro 25% productores.

Al final, de los 0,17 de un CD vírgen, los autores sólo ven 0,07 (11 ptas). Y esta parte a repartir entre todos los autores socios de la SGAE, que según su web son unos 66.000. Bien, supongamos que hubieran cobrado el canon por todos los 2.330.966 CDs piratas que según ellos han incautado en 2002 y que todos sus socios cobraran igual.

2.330.866 CDs x 0,17 = 396.247,22

396.247,22 x 0,20 = 79.249,44 para la SGAE

396.247,22 x 0,80 x ( 0,50 + 0,25 ) / 66000 = 3,6 para cada intérprete o autor.

Very alpha! (1)

locarecords.com (601843) | more than 9 years ago | (#8985162)

It's not the most stable piece of software I've ever used. Pages randomly vanish (ie trying to get Pop selected, or infact most sub-sub genres causes problems) searching is screwed and the site is very limited. I would say that the software is way way alpha and really you can only upload individual songs to individual artists.

Have experimentally uploaded a track by MEME vs XAN [download.com] to see how it works but at the moment it seems the link is screwed. Maybe it'll work later.

Not sure where they are going with this as it is extremely basic but I would have loved to be able to specify a Creative Commons [creativecommons.org] license as I was adding the song...

ps. If you are impatient to hear my track anyway you can get Meme Vs Xan - 24 - immediately from Loca Downloads [locarecords.com]

Re:Very alpha! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8985498)

I don't think they are interested in the creative commons, musicians or anything else. Most probably this is a simple grab for ways to get people to visit download.com or other cnet sponsored stuff.

purevolume.com (1)

clattymine (624804) | more than 9 years ago | (#8985183)

i go through purevolume ... there is a lot of indie crap, but it seems like they are picking up nicely ... and i like indie crap, so it all works for me!

One humble musician's take: (2, Interesting)

Zenmonkeycat (749580) | more than 9 years ago | (#8985318)

Screw CNet. Sure, they've resurrected the concept, but I'm guessing they'll also resurrect the idea of paying 20 dollars to be permitted to show more than 3 songs. And maybe they'll even invent their own format, maybe CNP3, that will require you to download the appropriate codecs and maybe a player program from them. Remember, it's all "Free to Try, $99.99 to Buy!"

.. But Will It Fly? (3, Funny)

MP3.com (774959) | more than 9 years ago | (#8985339)

MP3.com Hastily Re-launches -- But Will It Fly?
I'm not a pig, you insensitive clod!

GarageBand is not an MP3 download site (1)

haggar (72771) | more than 9 years ago | (#8985672)

..unfortunately. We, who had an MP3 artist account, had all our songs converted to RealAudio. Because of the firewall setup in my company, now it's impossible to get RA streams through, even though it is possile with MP3.

comments about mp3.com (3, Interesting)

tedtimmons (97599) | more than 9 years ago | (#8985752)

Worked at MP3.com from the IPO until the beginning of 2003- nearly four years. Others were there longer and knew more, but some of my observations:

* Too much crap. Free uploading means that anyone who thought they were an artist could upload music. No business model can support this. MP3 really needed to charge artists a few dollars a month. That wouldn't limit a real artist, but it might limit the guys that churned out crap.

* No way to find good music. There were "top 100" charts, but that's about it. How about Amazon-style relevance? Michael Robertson hated anything that forced a listener to listen to something- why wouldn't people want to choose each and every track? Well, some people don't care, or don't want to take the time. Give me a stream and leave me alone.

* No business model. Can't make money giving free uploads and free downloads. Subscriptions were ineffective, artist subscriptions pissed off the artists, and giving away hundreds of thousands per month was just silly.

* CEOs that didn't care. Michael Robertson had some vision and enthusiasm, but couldn't save it.

On the other hand, there were some great people and ideas at MP3.com. Trusonic is one of those- I'm sure they will continue to be successful.

Has nobody heard of.... (1)

glean (609540) | more than 9 years ago | (#8985854)

Besonic.com ? (global) iuma ? (global) electronicscene.com ? (obviously genre specific) These amongst the plethora of countless multitudes of indie music sites out there have continued to serve the artists forsaken by the majors. Canadians (and everyone else of course) out there might appreciate http://www.newmusiccanada.com And as a cheap plug, you could listen to yours truly.

Patience! (1)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 9 years ago | (#8986217)

-snip- it lacks the extra features of the original MP3.com, and it has a meager selection of barely 2,000 artists. The best part: their charts are literally random (songs are sorted by number of downloads, currently zero for all songs!). Smells like a hasty launch, perhaps rushed by last week's news that the original MP3.com archive (1.7 million songs) has been resurrected by another free MP3 download site, GarageBand.com."

*sigh*

Well, doh, the few days after opening, a site *will* have lots of "zero download" songs and -- surprise coming up -- maybe few artists too.

site design (1)

pmsyyz (23514) | more than 9 years ago | (#8986300)

They've gone with a nice Web standards (XHTML and CSS) based design, but they still have a few validation errors [w3.org].

It is always nice to see a site change when I hit my 0){var cs=!document.styleSheets[0].disabled;for(i=0;iTogg le CSS bookmarklet. Too bad Slashdot uses shitty fat HTML. I guess Slashdot doesn allow links that start with the javascript: pseudo protocol

var i=0;if(document.styleSheets.length>0){var cs=!document.styleSheets[0].disabled;for(i=0;i

In The Defense of MyGlobalSound.com (4, Funny)

bensin (727667) | more than 9 years ago | (#8986465)

I'm the president of http://www.MyGlobalSound.com [myglobalsound.com] and some people had some negative things to say about my company. I would like start off by saying you try doing the same thing with a $5,000 budget and a team of two. We recently launched in March and i know that in do time we will become a force to be reckoned with. I think the people that post on this forum should revisit their childhood before the start posting things If you don't have anythign respectable to say thing keep your mouth shout. If you pride yourself on making people feel little that only shows how big of a person you are.

Re:In The Defense of MyGlobalSound.com (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8987032)

No way for anybody to know if you really are the president, but anyway... The negative comments aren't about myglobalsound itself (although trying to pass American-centric music as "global" is typically arrogant crap), but mostly about the comment that your website is a better replacement to mp3.com.

As you say, you have a small site with a small budget. Nothing wrong with that. But to go around saying "our site is better than mp3.com" and then when people give you shit you come back and say "hey we're a small site, give us a break"... That's stuff to make the weasel king proud!

garageband.com (1)

orenzero (453980) | more than 9 years ago | (#8986689)

I followed their link, "resurrected" only three of my many tunes (that was the limit), and then got a followup e-mail asking me to test-listen their conversion to RealMedia! No thanks. Leave 'em off there if they're not in mp3 format. Real is a tool of Satan and all Beelzebublicans.

www.OGG.net ?? (1)

MBMarduk (607040) | more than 9 years ago | (#8987091)

All of a sudden something struck me; why isn't there a www.ogg.net (or .info or .biz) to push the better format? Sounds catchy too: "awg dot net"
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