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Chernobyl Becomes Tourist Hot Spot

michael posted more than 10 years ago | from the we're-not-above-puns dept.

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prostoalex writes "18 years ago on April 26, the Chernobyl disaster occurred in Central Ukraine. Nowadays, as British Telegraph reports, the radioactive disaster area is becoming a tourist hot-spot with 3000 visitors paying $200 for a guided tour each year."

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In Soviet Russia (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8988929)

Post first yuo!!!!!

Re:In Soviet Russia (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8989054)

I just want to know if a Beowolf cluster of these can run Linux, you insensitive clod!

Look Maw!! (2, Funny)

solid (15355) | more than 10 years ago | (#8988930)

Look maw! 3 hands!

Re:Look Maw!! (5, Insightful)

JohnHegarty (453016) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989178)

nothing like disabled children for a laugh....

these are real people ....not a cheap joke in a b movie....

Re:Look Maw!! (5, Interesting)

justinmc (710870) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989365)

John, Are you from Ireland - bet you are. In Ireland there is a huge understanding of the awful event in 1986. Today a huge amount of Irish people are working to help the victims. From organising Aid convoys to having Children from the area come to Ireland for the summer to get clean air. A documentary on this won an Oscar this year!! J

Re:Look Maw!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8989529)

Mod this down.

The motorcycle chick... (4, Funny)

the MaD HuNGaRIaN (311517) | more than 10 years ago | (#8988934)

Is she guiding the tours?
Is motorcycle rental included?

Re:The motorcycle chick... (5, Informative)

the MaD HuNGaRIaN (311517) | more than 10 years ago | (#8988985)

ooopps....a link [kiddofspeed.com] would have helped...sorry.

Re:The motorcycle chick... (4, Informative)

Neon Spiral Injector (21234) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989171)

Seriously though, no she won't be giving tours. As she wrote on her site; she rides alone to avoid breathing in the dust kicked up by another vehicle. Also the reason she goes on bike, she can stick to the center of the road. The radiation increases quite a bit just moving toward the shoulder.

Re:The motorcycle chick... (1)

the MaD HuNGaRIaN (311517) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989213)

Maybe she installed a side-car?
Honestly....she's the only one I would trust to take me anywhere near there.

Re:The motorcycle chick... (1)

adamofgreyskull (640712) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989449)

Also, I believe she can only go certain places because she uses a pass card she got from her dad. Her dad being a some kind of nuclear engineer or something. And it should be noted that wherever she goes she takes a geigercounter*

Check out the site for clarification, I haven't got time at the moment.

*she used another word, but perhaps that was just a translation problem..

Re:The motorcycle chick... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8989538)

DOSIMETER!

But just look what it did to that Kawisaki..mutating already.

tourists? (0, Flamebait)

wishiwascool (60898) | more than 10 years ago | (#8988936)

with 3000 suckers paying $200 for a guided tour each year

Illness (5, Interesting)

andy666 (666062) | more than 10 years ago | (#8988941)

Yes but apparently you have an 50 % higher chance of getting ill on such a trip. A lot of travel agents won't give you insurance.

Re:Illness (2, Informative)

drouk (660766) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989070)

Travel in ex-USSR can't be covered with insurance - regardless of ecological issues.

Re:Illness (2)

adrianbaugh (696007) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989175)

Bull. You're buying insurance from the wrong people.

Re:Illness (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8989395)

Nonsense! The high levels of radiation kill most bacteria and viruses, making the place much safer to visit.

Hot Spot? (4, Interesting)

l810c (551591) | more than 10 years ago | (#8988947)

While it is literally a Hot Spot, I would not call 8.2 visitors per day a Tourist Hot Spot. Your average Porta-Potty gets more visitors per day than that. Would you call a Porta-Potty a Hot Spot?

Re:Hot Spot? (2, Funny)

MikeXpop (614167) | more than 10 years ago | (#8988972)

You've obviously never been to our porta-potties. Wooooooheee.

Re:Hot Spot? (1)

BgJonson79 (129962) | more than 10 years ago | (#8988988)

Depends on the quality of the food establishments nearby.

Re:Hot Spot? (0, Redundant)

Paulrothrock (685079) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989042)

Not hot as in popular, hot as in radioactive.

In this case yes... (1)

mykepredko (40154) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989053)

To go, you follow the glow...

myke

Re:Hot Spot? (2, Insightful)

real_smiff (611054) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989055)

sure they're both dirty and unpleasant places, but:
you need to go to a Porta-Potty, you don't need to go to Chernobyl. (I think they think) THAT's what makes this figure amazing :p

Re:Hot Spot? (4, Funny)

Kenja (541830) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989127)

"While it is literally a Hot Spot, I would not call 8.2 visitors per day a Tourist Hot Spot"

I'm a bit worried about the .2 people, I prefer it when they stay down once I've cut them up.

Re:Hot Spot? (5, Funny)

adamofgreyskull (640712) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989536)

Coming this fall: Holiday to Chernobyl starring Ben Affleck, Jason Lee, Kevin Smith, Jason Mewes and Rusty Goffe [imdb.com]
Carpets by Bono

Tagline: 8 went in, 8.2 came back.

Re:Hot Spot? (3, Funny)

nizo (81281) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989391)

This reminds me of the people who visit the Trinity site down at White Sands and go home with their pockets full of radioactive sand. Evolution in action as they go sterile.

Re:Hot Spot? (1)

whovian (107062) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989446)

Only if there's an accessible 802.11b or better network.

Look ma (2, Funny)

the_2nd_coming (444906) | more than 10 years ago | (#8988953)

that man has a metal pot stuck to his head!!!

*click*

oh that will be a good one to scrap book!!

Re:Look ma (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8989500)

Be careful what you keep in that scrapbook... Secret Service questions student on drawings [cnn.com]

"Hot Spot" (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8988954)

It's a joke? Oh, I get jokes!

Re:"Hot Spot" (0, Offtopic)

Deraj DeZine (726641) | more than 10 years ago | (#8988993)

Oh, I get jokes!

On the other hand, I don't get jokes, so I just mod them as Off-topic/Troll/Flamebait.

Dumb (0)

xraylima (769632) | more than 10 years ago | (#8988965)

In the words of Comic Bookman "Dumbest vacation idea ever!"

I hope... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8988967)

...no master ninjas visit there with 4 baby turtles and one rat.

so here's what i don't get (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8989147)

So the turtles turned into ninja turtles, and human splinter + rat = rat splinter. What happened to the rat component? Did they merge? Did splinter develop an affinity for cheese? It doesn't make sense.

Mmmmm, radiation is bad, um ok (5, Interesting)

WwWonka (545303) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989256)

Hell, when I was a Navy Nuke working at the GE facility in Ballston Spa, NY we were decommissioning the S3G nuclear reactor and had to work in the reactor compartment daily. Of course we wore dosimeters and watched our daily exposure.

Routinely we were lazy and didn't want to work a full day so we would stand next to the main coolant pumps (one of the hottest spots for radiation in the compartment) and crank our dosage and be over our daily limit so we wouldn't have to work the rest of the day.

Now as I write this 10 years later I wonder why we just didn't take off the damn dosimeter and place it and not us next to the damn hot spot!

I'm kind of afraid now my first kid will have an extra testical and be able to read people's minds.

Re:Mmmmm, radiation is bad, um ok (1)

wowbagger (69688) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989368)

I'm kind of afraid now my first kid will have an extra testical and be able to read people's minds.


So long as he doesn't try to read a Trint's mind he should be OK, so what's the deal?

Re:Mmmmm, radiation is bad, um ok (2, Funny)

somethingwicked (260651) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989407)

Now as I write this 10 years later I wonder why we just didn't take off the damn dosimeter and place it and not us next to the damn hot spot!

Obviously, I mean it doesn't take a nuclear scientist to figu...oh

HUH??? (2, Funny)

adamofgreyskull (640712) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989562)

Are you freakin' kidding me? If I was a kid again I would LOVE to have extra testicles and be able to read people's minds.

Radiation (1)

AntiPasto (168263) | more than 10 years ago | (#8988970)

Why aren't these tourist glowing? Just curious... also... anyone have a radiation-level guide to old nukes, new nukes, "tactical" nukes?

Re:Radiation (1)

Phsyco (188558) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989091)

Well, IANAS, but it would seem to me that the level of radiation in the air there is no longer that high. So long as the tourists stick to the roads and don't have picnics in the grass, they shouldn't be exposed to any more radiation than you're average cross atlantic flight. I mean, the motorcycle girl seemed pretty ok afterward.

Re:Radiation (4, Informative)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989184)

Radiation levels are currently lower than the background radiation in Norway [vanderbilt.edu] . The real problem is the insides of buildings which still contain trapped radioisotopes. Also, the nearby groundwater has a higher level of radioisotope contamination than normal. You get some radioisotopes in your food and drink all the time. The issue is that a higher dose of these isotopes you get, the higher your risk of cancer.

And comparing the stuff from a power plant to the stuff from a nuke is kind of stupid. Nukes are meant to make the biggest BOOM possible. They try to use the least materials to do it, and the force required tends to break the materials down into fairly non-dangerous stuff.

Re:Radiation (1)

Squarepusher (730147) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989236)

I posted a question along these lines the last time the "motorcycle girl" was posted. I didn't get a response, but I have always been under the impression that radiation was cumulative. Which is to say that if you can survive up to X amount of radiation, and get a small dose, "Y" then tomorrow you can only survive X-Y. Any edjumacated informers here? Sheesh this is /. I should be inundated with solid information even before I preview my post!

Re:Radiation (1)

eliza_effect (715148) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989320)

I don't believe that "science" has answered that question, yet. There are theories, but no definitive proof of anything.

Re:Radiation (1)

AJWM (19027) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989467)

That's more-or-less true for high radiation doses. For lower doses, you body can repair some of the damage caused so you can survive (X - (Y-R)) where R is the amount repaired.

Heck, there's evidence that low dose radiation (up to a point) is more beneficial than zero radiation, because it cranks up the body's repair mechanisms which also go to work on other problems (viruses, toxins, etc).

Not that any of this is very precise -- the effects of a given dose of radiation, like other things, will vary on the mass and general health of the individual, how well their body handles damage, level of antioxidants in their system, etc.

Re:Radiation (3, Interesting)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989526)

Based on what we *know*, radiation is semi-cumulative. When the radiation hits your body, it can cause various forms of damage. A healthy body will attempt to repair this damage as if it were caused by normal background radiation. However, your body only has so much ability to repair. Thus a lot of radiation in a short time can have a cumulative effect. But low doses over long periods of time should have no discernible effect.

You also need to define what type of radiation you're talking about. e.g.:

Alpha - Only dangerous if emitted internally or through skin breaks
Beta - Similar to Alpha, but with more penetrating power. Basically an unfocused electron beam. A certain amount of voltaic pressure is required to penetrate the skin externally.
Gamma & X-Ray - High penetration power, more dangerous externally.
Neutron - Better hope you have good life insurance, because parts are going to start disappearing.

Gamma and X-Ray are what's known as "cosmic rays" because they are prevalent in background radiation. Alpha and Beta don't usually occur naturally. Neutron radiation is really only something you'd find at the heart of a reactor.

And that is your 10 minute science lesson for today. :-)

What about cancer from all the radiation? (0, Troll)

James A. N. Joyce (771122) | more than 10 years ago | (#8988976)

See subject. I'm sure that with as massive and widespread a radioactive material release as Chernobyl (800 millions becquerels) then the sites will be unsafe for more than just 18 years?

Uh-oh... (4, Funny)

spaeschke (774948) | more than 10 years ago | (#8988979)

But can they protect tourists from the mutants, stalkers, and sassy physicists daughters on Japanese rice burners?

Interesting... (5, Funny)

thebra (707939) | more than 10 years ago | (#8988981)

"We're fine," she joked. "No health problems. The radiation has got used to us." Tatiana Khrushch, 66, agreed. "The air's clean, the water's lovely and the mushrooms are great," she said.
I bet they don't have health problems, or they THINK they don't have health problems. I bet they think they are Scooby-Doo too.

Truth stranger than fiction (or /.) (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8989026)

The radiation has got used to us.

Holy crap, it's true. In Soviet Russia (or the former Soviet Russia) radiation gets used to YOU!

Mod parent up... (4, Funny)

Dr. GeneMachine (720233) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989235)

The first appropriate Soviet Russia joke on /. Rejoice all ye nerds! An ancient artform has regained its quality!

Re:Interesting... (1)

microwave_EE (768395) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989052)

"...the water's lovely and the mushrooms are great..." Just what did those mushrooms look like, ma'am?

Re:Interesting... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8989410)

But how are the badgers?

NO health problems? (2, Interesting)

OpenSourceOfAllEvil (716426) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989424)

Perhaps it's simply a matter of wanting or needing the cash generated by tourists, but the area is hardly safe for those that live there. For example in nearby Minsk in Belarus most adults have had nearly 20 years to resign themselves to the consequences and their greatest concern right now is their children. There are programs that try to arrange for children to spend at least 3 months of the year outside the country to minimize the chances of cancer, infertility and birth defects of the next generation. The programs do not allow parents to travel with the children out of a concern that it is unlikely they would return. The "official" line is that everything is just fine of course.

First pooooOOAAAAHH GOD I'M MELTING (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8988983)

It's funny cuz it's true.

Registration Free Link (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8988995)

No registration reguired. [smh.com.au]

--
Just say no to karma whoring!

Heh heh (1)

bplipschitz (265300) | more than 10 years ago | (#8988999)

they said 'hot spot,' heh.

Souvenirs (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8989002)

"I went to Chernobyl and all I got was this radioactive T Shirt"

Re:Souvenirs (5, Funny)

Neil Blender (555885) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989092)

Yeah, those sell a hell of lot better than the "I went to Chernobyl and all I got was thyroid cancer" t-shirts.

Must be looking for the nuclear biker chick. (5, Funny)

GarbanzoBean (695162) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989009)

Ahh, I guess slashdotters do go out for a vacation.

And now... the mutation room (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8989012)

So we get to tour, and mutate into radioactive humans! what a great idea!

Come on... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8989023)

20 posts and not a single soviet russia joke.

Re:Come on... (1)

the MaD HuNGaRIaN (311517) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989161)

Ok, you asked for it...

In Soviet Russia, the atom splits YOU!

YOOOHOO YANKERICANS!!! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8989030)

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Re:YOOOHOO YANKERICANS!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8989162)

I wish I had points to mod you up as funny.

truly awesome (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8989377)

thanks man.

Perhaps to catch a glimpse of the future.... (4, Interesting)

GillBates0 (664202) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989035)

Strange as it may sound, people visit here from all over the world - the United States, Australia, Japan, the UK...

...to see what our planet will look like a few years/decades from now if something isn't done about the political situation real soon real fast.

These tours have been receiving nothing but... (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8989039)

glowing reports. It had to be said.

Three-mile island (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8989040)

So where is my Three-Mile island tour?

Sounds a lot like a plot by the tree-hugging left-wing whingers who'd just love to villify nuclear power in public at any cost. So there was a bad accident in the Soviet Russia. Get over it.

It won't work here in the US because the public can see through the smokescreen, but abroad - maybe. We already know that many European countries are giving up the environmentally friendly nuclear power in favour of coal- and oil-power just "because nukes are evil".

Re:Three-mile island (2, Interesting)

Paulrothrock (685079) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989085)

So where is my Three-Mile island tour?

Dude, I live there. It's not that interesting. Nothing blew up, and there are only a few fish with three eyes. But it's near Hershey, so you could pick up some chocolate while you're there.

Avoid... (4, Funny)

solid (15355) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989048)

"Please do not touch the four-eyed mice"
"Please refrain from touching your complementary HazTag"
"Please do not stare directly into chernobyl zone"
"Please refrain from breathing chernobyl air"
"Please be respectful of our neighbors for we don't have many left"

Open Source Application Under Attack by Maker of K (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8989057)

Can someone please submit this article to Slashdot's editors? Its been pending for a day and a half for myself. I've released this text into the public domain so feel free to reword anything in it.

I think its self explanatory but feel free to reply here for clarifications.

---

Open Source Application Under Attack by Maker of KaZaA over Reverse Engineering

A story [zeropaid.com] from Zeropaid [zeropaid.com] indicates that maker of KaZaA [kazaa.com] , Sharman Networks, has sent a Cease and Desist Letter to the maker of GPLed software KCEasy because it interoperates with their FastTrack network. The creator of KCeasy says on the KCEasy website [kceasy.com] "I feel that inclusion of FastTrack access with KCeasy is not worth a legal battle between Sharman and myself". A similar issue was covered by the Slashdot story Fight On Blizzard Vs. Bnetd Case [slashdot.org] on the right to reverse engineer to create an interoperable network. Reverse engineering to be another on the list of rights that have fallen by the way side?

Re:Open Source Application Under Attack by Maker o (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8989459)

Damn companies abusing legal system in order to protect their interest.

Oh, look, someone released a Linux driver with GPLed code without publishing the sources! Quick, call the legal counsel! Alert the FSS! Telegram Stallman! We live in civilized country with full respect for copyright laws.

souvenirs . . . (3, Interesting)

StateOfTheUnion (762194) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989095)

Will unscrupulous tourists pick up irradiated rocks and plants just like they steal from Petrified Forest National Park [time.com] ?

You've got a friend in Pennsylvania (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8989107)

Looks like we really blew an opportunity when they put the lid back on 3-mile Island. Could have been cool to get that healthy, green glow locally.

Trinity site is nearer (1)

WormholeFiend (674934) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989131)

and you can probably find some trinitite to keep as a souvenir!

(or can you?)

Re:Trinity site is nearer (1)

e9th (652576) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989352)

It's been nearly thirty years since my visit to Trinity Site, but at the time there were signs all over the place warning of Bad Things that would happen to you if you so much as picked up a pebble.

Not hexadecimally enabled offspring, but real fines and/or imprisonment.

3000 = "hot"? (2, Interesting)

autopr0n (534291) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989154)

Well, if by 'hot' you mean radioactive. I'd hardly call 3k visitors a year (and at $200/pop that amounts to about $600k, hardly what you'd find in a place like galviston, TX)

it's actually huge money there (2, Informative)

Diaspar (319457) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989521)

think about it: average salary is $100 per month, or $1200 per/year. Now, assume that about 6 people probably take care of this, that's $100,000 per year, or 84 times the average salary!!

Now let's transfer it in american terms:
Average salary (I assume): $30,000
84x that: over $2.5 million per year!! ... any further questions?

In Soviet Russia... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8989157)

CHERYNOBEL VISITS YOU!!!

T-Shirt Ideas (4, Funny)

sssmashy (612587) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989168)

My family visited Chernobyl and all I got was this stupid thyroid cancer!

In Soviet Russia.. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8989174)

People run away from Chernobyl!

Well worth it (1)

daves (23318) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989177)

With this [fcdnet.org] as a tour guide, I'd be happy to pay.

Ah, yes, capitalism (5, Insightful)

dhasenan (758719) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989181)

Death and dismemberment turned into tourism and profit. I sense a distinct lack of respect for the dead. On the other hand, do they care?

Travel magazine reviews (5, Funny)

skinny.net (20754) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989186)

have all been glowing.

Motorcycle Tour Through Chernobyl (4, Interesting)

ayden (126539) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989192)

I submitted a related story to this last month. Kidd of Speed" [kiddofspeed.com] rides her Kawasaki Ninja into the dead zone through the abandoned towns, cities and villages surrounding Chernobyl.

The pictures are strikingly beautiful.

OB Soviet Russia joke (-1, Offtopic)

PS-SCUD (601089) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989230)

In Chernobyl the hot spot becomes you!

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. (1)

*Pres* (114530) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989250)

Soon, we'll be able to pay a virtual visit to the dead zone surrounding Chernobyl, by playing the FPS game S.T.A.L.K.E.R. [stalker-game.com]

Looks pretty impressive! [stalker-game.com]

Stalker (2, Interesting)

Serious Simon (701084) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989278)

This somehow reminds me of the movie Stalker [filmref.com] by Tarkovsky, in which three men enter a mysterious area, called the Zone enclosed by barbed wire and armed patrol.

The scenes filmed inside the lush nature of the Zone are in colour, this strangely adds to the eery impression, due to the contrast with the first part of the movie (the normal world) which is filmed in black and white.

Photo diary of a biker through the Chernobyl... (1, Redundant)

fifirebel (137361) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989283)

...area can be found here: http://www.kiddofspeed.com/ [kiddofspeed.com] .

And do not forget to visit Bob the Angry Flower [angryflower.com] , that's where I got the link... and this week's cartoon (Bombs of love) is hilarious too.

Iraq anyone? (3, Flamebait)

vandan (151516) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989317)

If people want to go to a radioactive disaster, maybe they should pick a more current one and have a look at what depleted [newscientist.com] uranium [sundayherald.com] weapons [tehrantimes.com] are doing to the locals. Levels of background radiation are 300 times what they were before the 'shock and awe' terrorist campaign.

Wonderful (1)

Lord_Dweomer (648696) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989319)

Just fucking wonderful....now we're going to have to worry about people trying to smuggle radioactive toads with 4 asses, and three-eyed fish.

Heh, and the FDA thought it was bad that we had genetically engineered neon zebra fish. Heh, those suckers ain't seen nothing yet.

Chernobyl deadzone on a streetbike website (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8989330)

Don't know if anyone else has seen or posted this website.
Very interesting reading and great pictures of the Chernobyl area, Dead-Zone and Ghosttown.
Updated in the last few weeks.
This Russian chick has a hot motorcycle, grande huevos, and a nice radiation counter.

http://www.kiddofspeed.com/chapter1.html
http://www.kiddofspeed.com/chapter1.html [kiddofspeed.com]

I hope this doesn't /. her website. If so, bookmark it and return later.

-AC

The Anti-spa vacation (3, Funny)

pickapeppa (731249) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989337)

Ah, nothing like a vacation in the former Soviet Republics. Radioactive bus tours, rampaging gangsters, bathtub gin, and smallpox. Sounds like going to Gary, IN but with a longer plane ride.

See this coming (5, Funny)

noelmarkham (714160) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989380)

What's got three legs, walks backwards, and goes 'cluck cluck'?

A chicken kiev of course!

ATTN (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8989386)

ATTN:PLS,

My name is Mr.Samuel Tommy, the manager, credit and foreign bills of Eco Bank Plc. I am writing in respect of a foreign customer of my bank with account number 14-255-2004/utb/t who perished in a plane crash [Korean Air Flight 801] with the whole passengers aboard on August 6, 1997. Since the demise of this our customer, I personally has watched with keen interest to see the next of kin but all has proved abortive as no one has come to claim his funds of usd.20.5 m, [twenty million five hundred thousand united states dollars] which has been with my branch for a very long time. On this note, I decided to seek for whom his name shall be used as the next of kin as no one has come up to be the next of kin. And the banking ethics here does not allow such money to stay more than seven years, because money will be recalled to the bank treasury as unclaimed after this period. In view of this I got your contact through a trade journal after realizing that your name and country is similar to the deceased. I will give you 30% of the total. Upon the receipt of your response, I will send you by fax or e-mail the application, bank's fax number and the next step to take. I will not fail to bring to your notice that this business is hitch free and that you should not entertain any fear as all modalities for fund transfer can be finalized within five banking days, after you apply to the bank as a relation to the deceased. When you receive this letter. Kindly send me an e-mail signifying your decision including your private Tel/Fax numbers for quick communication.

Respectfully submitted,

Mr.Samuel Tommy.

I41 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8989413)

I, 4 1 w3lc0me 0uR Radioactive Tourist 0v3Rl0RDZ

The Chernobyl motorcycle HOAX (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8989475)

According to the Swedish Aftonbladet [aftonbladet.se] Elena Filatov hasn't ridden a motorcycle in the zone [aftonbladet.se] (in Swedish). She hasn't got a father who's a nuclear physicist. The pictures were taken by Elena and her husband Igor under the supervision of the zone's administration.

The correct transliteration is "Chornobyl" (1)

gkuz (706134) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989481)

That's Chornobyl, not Chernobyl. Yes, it matters, because it's a Ukrainian town, not Russian.

I went to Chernobyl... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8989498)

and all I got was this stupid luminescent glow!

What kind of security is there? (2, Informative)

Zerbey (15536) | more than 10 years ago | (#8989564)

On the one hand, we have people such as the Kidd of Speed lady who travel there merely to take pictures, tell the story of what happened but above all leave everything alone.

On the other hand, I'm sure there's unscrupulous types who are going there simply to pick up souveniers and sell them to the highest bidder. This to me is no better than the people who where trying to sell steel from the WTC.

I hope the Russian government is controlling these tourist trips to make sure no one is profiting from the ongoing suffering of thousands of people.

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