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Andromeda And Mutant X Cancelled

timothy posted more than 9 years ago | from the not-quite-your-rights-online dept.

Television 442

dmehus writes "Science fiction fans may be dismayed to learn that "Mutant X" and "Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda" have been cancelled, despite the fact "Andromeda" had been cleared for a final season beginning in the fall. That prospect seems highly unlikely as the show's producer, Fireworks Entertainment, is shutting its doors for good and owner CanWest Global Communications (which also owns canada.com, the National Post, Global Television, and a bunch of other media assets) announced it will take a $159 million writedown on Fireworks. The news means "Mutant X" has a series total of three seasons and 66 episodes, while "Andromeda" will have a series total of 88 episodes in four seasons. Slashdot has previously covered 'Andromeda'."

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88 and rough end is tough fate in TV biz... (5, Interesting)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994103)

In TV-land, 100 is a magic number for a weekly series. When you hit 100 episodes, you have enough episodes to go 5-a-week and last 20 weeks without a repeat. That's good enough to survive on cable or syndication with a nearly infinite life. Lesser series have done it, but you've gotta be really deep to not risk burn-out.

So, Andromida stopping at 88 is kinda an ugly number to get caught at. Sci-Fi might have an interest in funding a series-ending run of about 13 episodes to run as an exclusive event, and therefore give the show some life in daily reruns. 88 with an abrupt-stop ending just isn't that valuable for reruns in comparision.

Of course, that depends on Sci-Fi being able to see the value in rerun rights. If the library of Fireworks assets including the 88 existing episodes get sold to a party that's not interested in letting Sci-Fi have the show on a 5-a-week daytime basis at a reasonable price... then there's no point in doing the deal.

The Sci-Fi saves the show thread is a longshot, but it could happen so it can't be ignored. The show's not dead yet, but it's taken a usually-fatal blow.

Re:88 and rough end is tough fate in TV biz... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8994113)

what the #$#)is "Andromida"? Did you sleep through English class?

Re:88 and rough end is tough fate in TV biz... (5, Interesting)

Chalybeous (728116) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994239)

Shows have survived in syndication with less. There were, if I remember right, 79 episodes of Star Trek (plus the original pilot, which remained unaired til the mid-1990s, although it was released on video around 1984-85) when it went into syndication.
That said - the original Star Trek was a good series. I've seen some Andromeda, and while it looked okay and had the occasional interesting moment (not to mention some impressive visuals and sets - I remember seeing a giant observation deck with a diplomatic function going on), it never hooked me. Probably part of it was that I can't stand Kevin Sorbo - although DeepWater Black's Gordon Michael Wolvett was a welcome addition to the cast, and Lexa Doig is reasonably easy on the eye.

No offence to those who like Andromeda, but I think it's about time people stopped cashing in on Gene Roddenberry's name just to get ratings. (modern Trek's high point was DS9 - since then, it's just been flogging a dead franchise!)

DISCLAIMER: The above views of TV shows are just my opinion. Yours may vary. Remember, opinions are like assholes - kindly stop shoving yours in my face ;-)

Re:88 and rough end is tough fate in TV biz... (2, Informative)

TastyWords (640141) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994280)

According to Episodes Guide [epguides.com] (an address worth memorizing - you won't need need a bookmark for it), there were seventy-nine articles not including the pilot. The pilot is labelled "UNAIRED".

Re:88 and rough end is tough fate in TV biz... (1, Offtopic)

TastyWords (640141) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994254)

88 happens to be the number of keys on a piano (there was a criminal in Dick Tracy known as 88 Keyes) and the number of constellations.

Back to the subject

Here's the url for a DejaGoogle discussion about what's really going on [google.com] (you might have to scroll to the top of the messages to see the entire thread.

One could say ... (5, Funny)

Walt Dismal (534799) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994106)

-- They're dead, Jim.

Re:One could say ... (4, Funny)

mphase (644838) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994145)

And so the Bad Shows were executed in the mannor most befitting virgins.

Re:One could say ... (2, Funny)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994167)

And so the Bad Shows were executed in the mannor most befitting virgins.

Hey, at least the 88 episodes aren't being sent to a far away planet where a young energy beam can become the only surviving fan other than somebody frozen for 1000 years.

Re:One could say ... (2, Funny)

mphase (644838) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994175)

Slashdot, the only place you can make a Futurama reference and then have it expounded upon.

Re:One could say ... (4, Informative)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994190)

Slashdot, the only place you can make a Futurama reference and then have it expounded upon.

Futurama lasted only 72 episodes, yet is still doing perfectly well in 5-a-week infinite reruns on Cartoon Network's Adult Swim. It is possible to survive with less than 100 episodes... but the show has to be detail-filed and good in general.

Re:One could say ... (1)

Chalybeous (728116) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994260)

Personally, I'm waiting for the obligatory fat sarcastic comic store guy/Simpsons reference.

"Worst. Episode. Ever!" in 5... 4... 3...

on the other hand... (4, Insightful)

Vellmont (569020) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994108)


Science fiction fans may be dismayed to learn that "Mutant X" and "Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda" have been cancelled


Though fans of quality television will rejoice. Mutant X? It has to be one of the worst TV shows I've seen more than 5 minutes of in the last 10 years.

Re:on the other hand... (1)

ericdano (113424) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994138)

Mutant X yes, Andromeda had some very good episodes.

Re:on the other hand... (-1, Flamebait)

cujo_1111 (627504) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994155)

Yet 'Enterprise' is still going...

Is there no justice in the Sci-Fi world?.

SAGAN COME BACK!!!

Re:on the other hand... (2, Interesting)

ericdano (113424) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994185)

Hence why a lot of good ANIME scifi is out there. Sol Bianca, Lost Universe, Captain Tyler, Macross, etc, etc.

It's sad, but Enterprise just blows. Andromeda was way better I thought.

Re:on the other hand... (1)

eyeye (653962) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994342)

It had some good ones until the writers (I think) left - then it turned into total shit and I stopped watching.

Mutant X was shit from start to end though, it was pathetic. Even the concept was lame - they just tried to rip off the X Men.

*thinks of firefly and sobs while rocking backwards and forwards*

Bring back firefly you bastards!

Re:on the other hand... (2, Insightful)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994152)

Action/Sci-Fi is a very expensive form of TV show due to the need for special effects. To do it cheap always results in looking bad...

Maybe CanWest is doing a good thing by putting FireWorks out of its misery rather than delivering sub-standard final seasons.

Re:on the other hand... (4, Insightful)

clickety6 (141178) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994265)

Action/Sci-Fi doesn't always need special effects. Sci-Fi isn't just laser guns and spaceships and giant sand worms and 3D holographic simulations. The trouble is, everybody wants to be Star Trek these days.

Re:on the other hand... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8994284)

Au contraire, Sci-Fi *is* just laser guns, spaceships etc. SF, OTOH is a broader genre.

Bah! (1)

Chuck Chunder (21021) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994272)

Some great sci-fi can be done on the cheap. People can even find it endearing.

I think the problem is more likely to be that they concentrate so much on being flashy that they forget other aspects that go to make a good program.

That said I've never seen Andromeda and couldn't bare to sit through either of the episodes of Mutant-X I tried started watching.

Re:on the other hand... (3, Interesting)

sTalking_Goat (670565) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994245)

"Mutant X" has a series total of three seasons and 66 episodes

That's 67 episodes (I'm fining them an extra one...) too many as far as I'm concerned. Andromeda was just barely watchable and only because I of Keith Hamilton Cobb's (Tyr Anasazi) overacting while he was still there. I tuned in to see just how much he would ham it up this week.

Mutant X on the other hand was unexcusably horrible on all levels.

Sci-Fi Channel must be kicking themselves in the ass. The passed on Firefly to get a show whose studio goes belly-up before they even air an original episode.

Serously though (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8994110)

Neither of these are very GNU/Linuxy are they?

You're such a BITCH! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8994238)

And I bet you're not even a real blonde.

Ummm... (0)

microwave_EE (768395) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994112)

I don't have a TV, are either of these programs any good? I mean...I saw like, 2 episodes of Andromeda, but lost interest pretty quickly.
Sidenote: the reason I don't have a TV is because of the massive negative effects on my grades that having a TV would have...as if Slashdot didn't already do that....

Re:Ummm... (0, Troll)

ronwolf (141966) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994174)

People who start conversations regarding TV (and they seem to have them as often as they can) by telling you they don't have a tv because:

a) They have WAY TOO MUCH GOING ON in their life to have time for TV
b) They are WAY TOO SMART for the crap that's on TV
c) They last saw a good show on TV in 1974
d) They think that divorcing themselves from pop culture is avant garde and oh so punk rock

Should please stop it. No one cares, or no one believes you. Either way, stop bugging us.

Ummm...Darth Veal. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8994200)

"Sidenote: the reason I don't have a TV is because of the massive negative effects on my grades that having a TV would have...as if Slashdot didn't already do that...."

[Heavy laboured, breathing]
Soon, young Slashdotter. You'll be MINE!

"Dismayed" is a bit strong. (2, Insightful)

Kris_J (10111) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994116)

Science fiction fans may have be dismayed when they learnt that Firefly was being cancelled, but I buy the DVDs of Andromeda here in Australia and I'm far from dismayed. Not saying I know when it jumped the shark [jumptheshark.com], but I almost stopped buying it at DVD 4.6.

Re:"Dismayed" is a bit strong. (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8994149)

Hmm my sentiments exactly. I got into Andromeda first, liked the first season dvd's immensely, then got introduced to firefly and now Andromeda just seems... tired, or tiresome.

In anycase I've bought all the Andromeda dvd's.
The most recent one that came out was 3.4 though, so how do you get access to season 4 dvds??

Re:"Dismayed" is a bit strong. (2, Interesting)

Kris_J (10111) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994236)

Hmm my sentiments exactly. I got into Andromeda first, liked the first season dvd's immensely, then got introduced to firefly and now Andromeda just seems... tired, or tiresome.
Snap. I'm almost ashamed to have the Firefly box set in the same media tower as Andromeda.
In anycase I've bought all the Andromeda dvd's. The most recent one that came out was 3.4 though, so how do you get access to season 4 dvds??
Apparently Australia has been getting DVDs the fastest. Might have something to do with the fact that no free-to-air station will touch it. I think cable hasn't even started showing season four here.

Re:"Dismayed" is a bit strong. (1)

Paul Cameron (3633) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994218)

You bought the Andromeda DVDs? Up to and including season 4?!

"A fool and his money are soon parted."

Wallet strikes Iceburg: Career sinks. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8994290)

"A fool and his money are soon parted."

Could have been worse. He could have made a movie about a love story between two young lovers, on a doomed ship.

Re:"Dismayed" is a bit strong. (2, Interesting)

sTalking_Goat (670565) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994257)

Not saying I know when it jumped the shark

One good (bad) thing I can say about Andromeda is that it excelled at shark jumping. Too many characters for one thing. While some shows can make that work (Firefly) Andromeda didn't seem to have the budget (or the writing talent) to have all the characvters in each episode. Also whats the point of having a ship staffed by thousands if 6 and an AI can do the job just as well. I could go on and on, but I'd rather go to bed...

And yet... (5, Insightful)

Jhon (241832) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994117)

Enterprise gets picked up for another season.

Isn't it obvious? GOOD SF doesn't sell. Cheap commercialized tripe does.

Re:And yet... (0, Redundant)

CheshireCat (73975) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994160)

Mutant X? Andromeda? Good?

Re:And yet... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8994201)

Oh my you are sooooooo funny. See what you did is type the titles of 2 shows with question marks and then typed 'good' with another question mark afterwards. Thats sooooooo funny. I must say that I have never seen that done before. You are a comedy genius! You are just soooooo funny.

Re:And yet... (5, Interesting)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994182)

Enterprise keeps getting renewed because UPN needs something, anything, with the Star Trek brand in order to hold the network together. UPN is a constant sixth who sometimes risks falling to seventh behind Spanish-language Univision. It's main problem is any time Paramount has a good show, sister network CBS grabs it. Having to eat CBS's leftovers, and then having its backbone major-city affiliates also being treated as CBS's little sister just is no way to run a network.

Lets be honest.. (1)

Viewsonic (584922) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994227)

Enterprise, while lacking, still blew away Andromeda with its entourage of effeminate aliens. And MutantX? Seriously, who even watched an entire episode?

Re:And yet... (2, Insightful)

Zenithal (115213) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994348)

Alright, I'd be the first to say that Enterprise, compaired to TNG is crap. But Enterprise compaired to much of the much WORSE crap out there is pretty darn stellar. We should be at least somewhat happy it's still around.

There's a lot of TV hours out there per-week. One of Enterprise isn't a plague on humanity, and it beats the living crap out of yet another our of reality TV.

Yet another quality Slashdot communitycancellation (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8994119)

First goatse.cx gets shutdown, now Andromeda.

Is nothing sacred anymore?

What's next - Lucasfilm is cancelling Episode III!!?!?

Re:Yet another quality Slashdot communitycancellat (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8994209)

What's next - Lucasfilm is cancelling Episode III!!?!?

We can only hope...

Cherry flavoured hope. (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8994262)

"We can only hope..."

Will that be the "Classic Hope", or "New Hope"?

Re:Yet another quality Slashdot communitycancellat (1)

Powercntrl (458442) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994324)

First goatse.cx gets shutdown, now Andromeda.

Let me say with total sincerity that I mourn the loss of goatse more than anything network television has ever created.

What's next - Lucasfilm is cancelling Episode III!!?!?

That would be better news than SCO suing the RIAA and MPAA out of existance then choking to death on all the money.

88? (4, Funny)

kahei (466208) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994120)


*88* episodes? The fact that someone kept Andromeda going for 88 episodes is deeply disturbing. I always assumed there were only about 4, and they got repeated a lot.

Re:88? (2, Interesting)

Kris_J (10111) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994177)

You're thinking of the space battles. There were only about 4 space battles that were rendered and the rest a remixes with the same 3D graphics. There were some "girl of the week" episodes that hardly had any space battles. But it is a worry that a show only as tenth as good as DS9 could go on for half as long.

Re:88? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8994235)

Your post made me laugh out loud...

Then I looked up and saw it was modded "informative" and I almost pissed my pants!

Not really (4, Insightful)

laiquendi (688177) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994125)

Science fiction fans may be dismayed to learn that "Mutant X" and "Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda" have been cancelled

Heh, more likely they won't. Save your pity for Firefly. [amazon.com]

Mutant X (5, Insightful)

thisfred (643716) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994126)

I haven't seen much Andromeda, but I can't say I'm surprised to see Mutant X cancelled. All it was, really, was a very cheap ripoff of the X-Men (Scientist provides place for young and confused mutants and together they fight crime.), and it didn't even seem to want to hide that fact. Good riddance.

Re:Mutant X (1)

Bricklets (703061) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994304)

All [Mutant X] was, really, was a very cheap ripoff of the X-Men...

Actually, I believe "X-Men" and "Mutant X" are both properties of Marvel. Who would have thought that would be so.

Re:Mutant X (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8994337)

You're about 15 years too late.

Back before either were on TV or in movie theatres, there were X-Men comic books published by Marvel. Then an upstart comics company tried to break the Marvel and DC duopoly (which you apparently love) and came out with Mutant X. There were a few differences with the X-Men, but yes, it was derivative.

Then, X-Men got a cartoon TV show and a movie deal. That went very well.

I guess Marvel at some point acquired Mutant X.

Then, they did something original with Mutant X. They did a live action TV show.

The X-Men have never had a live action TV show.

The Mutant X TV show was not a rip-off. It was original. Smoke that.

No Offense Intended (2, Insightful)

mphase (644838) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994127)

I'm sorry to say that I haven't been able to watch either show because they are just so bad. I've never been able to stomach Mutant X but I liked Andromeda at first, but now to watch episodes I originally liked I stand stand it. I believe the reason for this is fantastic shows like Farscape and Firefly which just make these shows look like steaming piles. Okay I've got to admit I little offense is actually intended. How do people whatch that dren?

Noooo (1)

ericdano (113424) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994129)

No, not Andromedia. I will miss Tyr, even though he has been seriously lacking in season 4. I loved him in the previous seasons. Great wit.

And Rommie? My favorite sci-fi babe? Oh man......that is a though blow.

Science Fiction - hah! (0, Troll)

Magickcat (768797) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994131)

I wouldn't go so far as to call "Mutant X" science fiction. Science Froth would probably be a better genre to classify it in.

What you talking about WIllis? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8994134)

Holy Crap!

Okay, they kill The Invisiblle Man, they kill MutantX, and in both cases, we have Tremors.

Holy Crap! is an understanding.

Good riddance to bad crap (5, Insightful)

JoeShmoe (90109) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994147)

I mean...seriously...these shows are unwatchable. Completely. Why in God's name would anyone mourn these shows being cancelled?

There's no science. Please, someone find me the gene that lets a guy turn into some kind of Lava monster. That's a more amazing evolutionary feat than the bombadier beetle. It's like the worst parts of the worst episodes of X-Files all jammed into an solid 40 minutes, with an entire rip on the whole X-Men concept to boot.

And Andromeda...starts out with this gimmick of a holographic hot chick representing the ship (sort of a video version of Star Trek's talking female ship voice). Then they drop all pretense and somehow she becomes a walking talking hologram. And then later, I'm not sure, but did she end up turning into a real girl somehow? And those stupid names. God, who the hell green lights crap like "Rev Blem" or "Trance Gemini"...oooo! So alien! So spacey future sounding!

Forget it. Other shows, like Farscape or whatever, hey...I'm not a fan, but I can be appropriately sad to hear another Sci-Fi show bites the dust. But Mutant X? No. Andromeda? Quit beating the dead Roddenbery. These shows should die...every dollar not wasted on them is perhaps another dollar that can maybe somehow through a miracle end up going towards new Firefly episodes.

- JoeShmoe
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Re:Good riddance to bad crap (5, Interesting)

Kris_J (10111) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994198)

And Andromeda...starts out with this gimmick of a holographic hot chick representing the ship (sort of a video version of Star Trek's talking female ship voice). Then they drop all pretense and somehow she becomes a walking talking hologram. And then later, I'm not sure, but did she end up turning into a real girl somehow?
There are three distinct versions. A screen-only, all-business personality. A cynical hologram. And a modified "we robots don't have emotions and sometimes that makes me really sad" robot. It is to Lexa Doig's credit that she unflinchingly maintained these three distinct versions of the same character through all the bad scripts and questionable editing.

Re:Good riddance to bad crap (4, Interesting)

JoeShmoe (90109) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994234)

Thank you for clearing that up...not that it really matters but...I really question the direction and general quality of a show when major plot points are subject to such huge revisions. Case in point...

Enterprise was sold on the principle of a "simpler, earlier Trek". Remember the exolinguist Hoshi? Remember the struggle to communicate? Wasn't that supposed to be a major theme of the series? It took precisely five episodes for the show to go from "omg omg omg the computer will take six hours to translate this so we know if this alien is hostile" to "I'm Captain Archer onboard an alien prison ship but apparently everyone speaks English or the Universal Translator is now small enough to fit invisibly in my ear". Enterprise has pretty much thrown out everything it was based on, giving us episodes involving time plots and DeathStars more complicated that anything from the other so-called advanced series.

Back to Andromeda...I gave it a try or two for the first half season or so then promptly forgot about it. A couple years later when I revisited it during a bout of insomnia, I remember thinking that absolutely nothing was the same. The angry fend for himself bounty hunter was somehoe like the chief ship security officer, the pacifist preacher was doing some kind of ninja kung fu, and the hologram of the ship was somehow walking around and trying to get laid. Or something like that. Anyway, I got the sense that the series had probably been through two or three shark jumps and flipped back to Cheers reruns for the 10000th time.

- JoeShmoe
.

Re:Good riddance to bad crap (1, Funny)

JChris (29377) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994203)

And those stupid names. God, who the hell green lights crap like "Rev Blem" or "Trance Gemini"...oooo! So alien! So spacey future sounding!

I think we should do a series where all the aliens are named Bob.

That would be cool.

Re:Good riddance to bad crap (2, Insightful)

JoeShmoe (90109) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994264)

"Meet the twins, Vreeeeeeeeeet and Bob" - K from Men in Black.

Seriously, names all mean something. So, if you were an alien, wouldn't your name be translated too? You'd have aliens with Indian sounding names like "Son of the stars".

It always bugged me on Star Trek (really any Scifi) show when they just sprinkle alien words (or even worse...subtitles) throughout the otherwise English dialog. How exactly does the translator know when to let a word slip through untranslated? The fact that the aliens would then explain the meaning of the alien word was another irritation. How does the alien even know the word isn't being translated? Aren't they supposed to be speaking their own language?

I don't mean to be unreasonable, I'm willing to put up with a little suspension of belief but it would be nice for script writers to pay attention once and a while and think about it. I mean, we all rag on any SciFi show that doesn't display perfect 100% physics rules ("you can't see lasers!" "there are no booms in space") so why don't we get equally uppity about things like obvious language paradoxes?

- JoeShmoe
.

Re:Good riddance to bad crap (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8994219)

JoeSchmoe you totally missed the opportunity to jump on the "Save Firefly" band waggon too! Ever had an original thought or opinion of your own or do you just go along with what ever the vocal minority here on /. say?

Re:Good riddance to bad crap (1)

JoeShmoe (90109) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994277)

1) Firefly doesn't need saving, the DVD sales did that

2) Feel free to check my postings from two years ago where I defended Firefly on numerious occasions from the accusations of it being "space cowboys" or "Buffy in space"

3) I like how going along with a minority means I'm some kind of conformist me-too sheep. Gee, if only I could be as free thinking and independant as the majority opinion!

- JoeShmoe
.

Mutant X Plots (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8994296)

I liked Andromeda, it was a bit like Hercules in space.

As for Mutant-X *shudder*. Here is a typical Mutant-X episode.

1. Group find a new mutant they need to save.
2. Someone or the mutant gets captured and brought back to Genomax.
3. Group get to break into Genomax and rescue said mutant.
4. The cat lady does the splits in mid air a few times and eletro boy waves his hands a few times.

I swear.. this is every episode! They should just install revolving doors in genomax.

BOO HOO (-1, Flamebait)

co_fisha (196881) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994161)

Maybe this will force some of you nerds out of the house this summer. You can all learn that you won't actually melt outside under real light.

Good! Andromeda sucked! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8994165)

Good! Andromeda sucked since Robert Hewitt Wolfe was fired! Kevin Sorbo should have been fired. The rest of the cast was OK!

Gordon Michael Woolvett was funny. Lexa Doig was hot!

Maybe Lexa Doig and Victoria Pratt can get their own show! Drooooool .... Doig and Pratt!! Sounds dirty!

that giant sucking sound you hear (1)

deft (253558) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994173)

is the combination of the void left by these shows being cancelled and their actual sound as shows just "suck".

what if all the crap shows got cancelled so they could produce a good one? hmmm.

btw, whatever happened to battlestar galatica? i thought that had potential.

Re:that giant sucking sound you hear (1)

deft (253558) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994199)

decided to check what really did happen.... if anyones interested 9 days ago they began production on a mini series for BG.

sweet.

Re:that giant sucking sound you hear (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8994224)

Really? I thought it was you pulling your head out your ass to make this post.

Re: that giant sucking sound you hear (1)

Paul Cameron (3633) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994226)

what if all the crap shows got cancelled so they could produce a good one? hmmm.
At least they got off to a good start.
btw, whatever happened to battlestar galatica? i thought that had potential.
I am hereby revoking your posting rights.

Re: that giant sucking sound you hear (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8994370)

It was the same as when we saw it twenty-five years ago - and used the same name: "Battlesoap Gallactica"

Andromeda And Mutant X Cancelled (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8994183)

Thank god.

for those aussies interested (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8994187)

Canwest owns Channel Ten in Australia.

for those nzers interested (1)

rms_nz (196697) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994206)

CanWest also owns TV3 & C4 in NZ... I must admit these two channels aren't renowned for their Sci-Fi - I can't quite remember the last sci-fi show actually (C4 being a music channel kinda does have an exemption I guess :) )

Well FINALLY!! (1)

Mastadex (576985) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994195)

Andromeda wasnt all that great, compared to Startrek Next Gen or DS9. Never really pulled me into it. So finally they decided to can the right shows this time instead of canning super smash hits like Family Guy or Futurama!!!

Re:Well FINALLY!! (1)

rms_nz (196697) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994231)

They cancelled Futurama? Man am I behind the times :/

The thing that I didn't like about Andromeda was Kevin Sorbo - kept thinking of Hercules in Space!

Re:Well FINALLY!! (1)

raodin (708903) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994351)

I happened across the pilot a month or so ago on Sci-Fi.. I'd never watched the show, but I figured I'd watch it out of boredom. One of the characters described Kevin Sorbo's character as something like, "really huge.. like some sort of greek god or something." That was about when I turned it off.

Re:Well FINALLY!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8994242)

Well I have recently re-watched some TNG and they are so unbelivably bad I have stopped watching them to preserve the good memories I have of the show.

Re:Well FINALLY!! (1)

Polkyb (732262) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994367)

Just shows you, eh. I loved TNG and Voyager, but DS9, IMO, sucked a big one... The only thing it had going for it was O'Brien and Worf, and even then, Worf didn't show up until halfway through

I think they should consider another series like TNG but maybe set further into the future... New toys and (hopefully) fresh ideas

He's dead, Jim. (4, Insightful)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994217)

When the name above the title was dead years before the show started... you're running a show based on an idea that wasn't good enough to go forward when he was alive. That's the first sign you're in trouble.

Too bad (3, Insightful)

noewun (591275) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994248)

Andromeda's best point, imo, was that it didn't take itself seriously. It never pretended to be anything other than a cheesy science fiction show, and had a lot of fun with some of the sillier conventions of sci fi. To me, it was the perfect antidote to shows like DS9, which seemed to be so concerned with being "serious" sci fi they forgot about things like character, dialog or plot.

I always (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8994258)

refered to Andromeda as "Kevin Sorbo: Space Man" now I can just call it "Kevin Sorbo: The New Priceline.com Guy"

Fireworks did put out some decent genre TV (1)

sTalking_Goat (670565) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994267)

La Femme Nikita comes to mind. Anything else halfway decent done by Fireworks?

Re:Fireworks did put out some decent genre TV (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8994288)

that's interesting. I didn't remember fireworks did la Femme Nikita.

That's one series I wish that they did not return and do a last season, as the last season sucked pretty bad.

I heard the cons were pretty fun though.

Number of SF series completing their run? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8994276)

How many serial SF series have actually completed their run and told their whole tale? Note, that means continuing plot, not just continuing characters. I can only recall a very few: Babylon 5, First Wave, and... and...

make that 3.5 (4, Interesting)

The Rizz (1319) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994336)

Stargate is pretty much guaranteed to run its whole plot out without getting cancelled (since there's only 1 season left, and production is already a good deal underway). Unfortunately, the later seasons' plotlines aren't as good as the earler ones... but at least it's another to add to the list.

Also, there is ReBoot ... well, sorta. They finished off the story started in season 2 when they were picked up (nearly 5 years later) for season 3. Then a few years later they got the greenlight to do new episodes and started a new major plot ... just in time to get cancelled mid-plotline yet again!
However, it is animated so it may not count in this list, anyway.

Mutant X == The X-Men ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8994281)

This is the first time I have heard of this show. After reading the episode guide it seems like a complete and total rip off of the X-Men comic book. The plot of the episodes (ALMOST ALL OF THEM) seem lifted directly from X-Men comics that I've read before. Even the name is a rip off. Is this show produced by Marvel Entertainment?

Holy cow! (4, Insightful)

natet (158905) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994293)

I must be the only person on the face of the planet who actually liked both of these shows. I watched them, not to learn some profound truth, or for their rigid adherance to sound scientific principles, but because they entertained me. Don't get me wrong, neither were my favorite shows, I wouldn't go out of my way to watch them, but if they were on, and I wasn't watching something else, I would watch them.

Even if I hated both of these shows, I would still be sad to see them go. The main reason is... With the trend of sci-fi shows being cancelled, eventually all we will be left with are the vapid teeny-bopper soap operas (Smallville anyone?) that seem to be so prevalent lately.

Actually, we're fairly lucky (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8994308)

Anything seen to be on the fringe or where the freak and geeks reside tend to present the same statistics, regardless of a number of factors. In their eyes, why kill yourself to produce a higher-level quality which won't produce a product which will return the expected revenue.

When the shows are signed & the first few episodes are in the can, the executives have a pretty good sense (or so they say - and what's not to say they're predisposed to certain shows and establishing their own ratings?) regarding which shows will suck and be replaced by the first sweeps (November) and which will do okay, particularly if they've got a show runner. They do, however give the shows a chance.

One noticeable show to climb out of the predetermined pit of doom? CSI. The suits were totally baffled by this.

rank the babes (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8994309)

It's a damn shame whenever sci-fi is canceled, and I happened to like Andromeda [imdb.com] a lot and Mutant X [imdb.com] a little.

Let's do something constructive, and rank da babes.

My rankings:

  1. Laura Bertram, Trance Gemini
  2. Lexa Doig, Andromeda (the ship)
  3. Lauren Lee Smith, Emma, (the sometimes brunette) psychic chick on Mutant X
  4. Victoria Pratt, Shalimar Fox, the blonde energy bolt chick on Mutant X
  5. Lisa Ryder, Beka Valentine
  6. Karen Cliche, Lexa Pierce (Mutant X newbie character) (hot but I never saw much of her)
They are all hot, and the rankings are all very close.

Re:rank the babes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8994358)

You better learn your subjects before you open your trap: Victoria Pratt, Shalimar Fox, the blonde energy bolt chick on Mutant X Shalimar wasn't an "the blonde energy bolt chick". She was a "feral". The closest to the "the blonde energy bolt chick" would have been Ms. Cliche|Lexa, who controls light

Not again... (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#8994322)

First Hercules, now Hercules in space gets cancelled.

Also (1)

obeythefist (719316) | more than 9 years ago | (#8994333)

Farscape and B5 and Crusades and Mutant X and Andromeda and Enterprise is going down the chute pretty soon I hear (next season is the last bla bla)...

Are they making Sci Fi TV anymore or is this like the moon landing, where they pretend to but they actually did it in a hurry then shut everything down years ago?
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