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Russian Music Site Offering Legal Songs By The MB

timothy posted more than 10 years ago | from the for-small-versions-of-legal dept.

Music 614

An anonymous reader writes "The Sydney Morning Herald is reporting on a Russian Music site that is offering legal digital music by the MB. The site apparently has a license from the Russian Music authorities to legally distribute songs for a fraction of the price of what is being offered by iTunes and others. The report from SMH is here. Amazingly, the site offers files in any format and encoding you choose and rips it on the fly. Notifications by email follow when the songs are ready for download. Sounds a little to good to be true :)"

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But they still can't beat my (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8994761)

Honda hybrid.!

Re:But they still can't beat my (-1, Offtopic)

ncurses (764489) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994827)

Toyota Prius!

Dunno why no link (5, Informative)

lordkuri (514498) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994763)

click me [allofmp3.com]

One of these days, Alice (1)

ObviousGuy (578567) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994766)

You knew that one of these days record companies would "get it" and find a way to sell their wares over the internet. Now I await them finding a way to do it without charging money.

Re:One of these days, Alice (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8994845)

>You knew that one of these days record companies
>would "get it" and find a way to sell their wares
>over the internet. Now I await them finding a way
>to do it without charging money.

Umm, how do they sell stuff on the internet without charging money?

Re:One of these days, Alice (5, Funny)

tbone1 (309237) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994882)

Umm, how do they sell stuff on the internet without charging money?

They'll make it up in volume.

Re:One of these days, Alice (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8994892)

I hope I'm missing the joke here.

Until you (and everyone else) start working for free, don't expect record companies to do the same. You basically have two choice: pay with money or pay with advertising. Pick one.

Allofmp3.com (5, Informative)

p0ppe (246551) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994768)

http://www.allofmp3.com/

Been using their services for half a year now without any problems. They're licenced with the Russian equivalent of the RIAA, so I don't see where the problem is.

This is a great example of the free market combined with the internet. I'm able to buy goods and services from wherever it suits me.

Re:Allofmp3.com (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8994782)

I'm able to buy goods and services from wherever it suits me.

Plus you aren't breaking the law cause it's legal in the place you ordered from! I'm still waiting for my marijuana from Amsterdam though...

Re:Allofmp3.com (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8994833)

If you import legally purchased marijuana you will be in violation of drug possession laws. But can you name a law you would violate when importing a legally purchased piece of music? Private individuals import lots of music all the time with no legal problems.

Re:Allofmp3.com (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8994783)

haven't all those "strange" items on your credit card bothered you?

ok, call me dubious but i'm not too happy about giving banking details to Russia.

(in soviet union the mp3's encode you etc etc)

Re:Allofmp3.com (3, Informative)

s0meguy (265470) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994948)

Not a problem - they take Paypal.

Re:Allofmp3.com (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8994812)

"They're licenced with the Russian equivalent of the RIAA, so I don't see where the problem is."

giving money to an equivalent of the RIAA?

Re:Allofmp3.com (4, Insightful)

Urkki (668283) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994839)

*RIA* aren't bad in principle, quite the contrary. If they get too much power and abuse it (and let's face it, too much power always leads to abuse), then that can be bad. But ideally they're representing artists rights, put to that position by artists, just as good or bad as for example EFF can be. It's just that money tends to corrupt everything.

Re:Allofmp3.com (5, Insightful)

Rico_za (702279) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994861)

This is a great example of the free market combined with the internet. I'm able to buy goods and services from wherever it suits me.

That's exactly the same argument that can be used for outsourcing IT jobs. You can't have it both ways people! You can't have your cheap consumer economy in the US, and still want your jobs protected. Why not complain about the poor music industry jobs that are being "outsourced" to Russia?

Re:Allofmp3.com (3, Insightful)

rmezzari (245108) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994888)

You hit the nail in the head, I was going to post the same idea. Why can a consumer buy goods and services where he sees fit, but a company cannot do the same? That's hipocrisy for you kids.

Re:Allofmp3.com (1)

Zweistein_42 (753978) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994911)

But jobs ARE being offshored - by millions:). It's the cheap goods that are sometimes hard to obtain (DVD region coding etc).
There's a ridiculous amount of stuff that's dirt cheap in East Europe or Asia, that is not available here.

Re:Allofmp3.com (1)

bluntos (549494) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994875)

"Democracy is 2 wolves and 3 sheep voting on what to have for dinner. But two of the sheep are retarded/unwilling to vote"

Subj (-1, Offtopic)

dimethyltryptamine (674883) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994769)

It's definitely good and definitely true. Just like Mother Russia!

Let's get this out of the way (-1, Funny)

eclectro (227083) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994770)


In Soviet Russia, the music downloads you!!!

I consider this a karma sacrifice for the better good of slashdot.

Hmmmm... (4, Funny)

elmegil (12001) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994773)

I dunno, having "Russia" and "legal" in the same sentence leaves me a bit ... skeptical.

Besides, in post-Soviet Russia, the songs MegaByte You!

Er....

Re:Hmmmm... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8994884)

These "In soviet russia" jokes have GOT to stop... they're as old as dirt. They weren't funny in the 80's when Yakov Smirnov said them, and they're not funny now.

Obviously not rip... (5, Insightful)

hanssprudel (323035) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994775)

It doesn't rip it on the fly, it encodes it on the fly. Big difference (thousands of CD-ROMs???)

More importantly, has anybody tried this? I found it many months ago, but I am loath to send my credit card data to a semi-shady Russian site, and I am worried that credit card records could be used to go after people who used the site when it (inevitably) gets shut down eventually. What do people think?

Re:Obviously not rip... (4, Interesting)

Hakubi_Washu (594267) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994800)

Why not put PayPal inbetween? That way you can't be charged... (I use PayPal exclusively, because I don't have a creditcard, they're not that common over here in germany :-)

Re:Obviously not rip... (1)

dimethyltryptamine (674883) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994811)

The site has been online for at least a year, which is how long I've used it for. Knowing people pretty high up the company (and given that its Russia) I can say that it will be difficult to stop even if there are legal issues with it.

Re:Credit Card? (5, Informative)

Gryffin (86893) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994862)

More importantly, has anybody tried this?

A lot of people, apparently. Including me. I've been very happy with it.

I am loath to send my credit card data to a semi-shady Russian site

I don't think they even accept credit cards directly; at least, I don't recall seeing that option when I signed up.

I signed up using PayPal. That's one reason I took the plunge: a (more or less) reputable American intermediary for the financial end. I have a balance, that's deducted from for each download. When it's near empty, I go to PayPal and fill 'er up again. It's pretty painless.

Re:Obviously not rip... (0, Troll)

GraZZ (9716) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994865)

The files they encode from are IIRC 384kbps wav files. Pretty good sources :)

Re:Obviously not rip... (1)

troon (724114) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994908)

384kbps wav files. Pretty good sources

Pretty poor sources, actually. Red book CD rips to 1378kbps WAVs (44100 samples per second × 16 bits per channel × 2 channels).

Maybe 384kbps mp3s...?

Re:Obviously not rip... (1)

GraZZ (9716) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994924)

My bad, it was 384kbps of what they claimed was a "lossless compression", but I think was just mp3.

Yes, rip-on-the-fly as well - hard disk is a cache (2, Interesting)

Morgaine (4316) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994887)

There's got to be rip-on-the-fly functionality in there too, as well as encode-on-the-fly, because in no way could any sane operation pre-rip every known CD.

Their hard disk storage is probably configured as an intermediate cache (well that's how I'd do it anyway), with cache-load requests coming up on the monitors of a bunch of unskilled temp employees who have the task of loading newly requested CDs into the racks of CDROM drives, ejecting the LRU CD as instructed.

And even this group of people probably forms a cache which feeds its misses as requests to the poor sods who have to run out into the Russian weather to chase down obscure CDs in the shops. :-)

HA! I 'm in the top 20 comments (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8994780)

Comment comment

Bandwidth testing (4, Funny)

tomknight (190939) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994781)

And here's where we do them the service of testing their bandwidth ;-)

Tom.

cheaper? (1)

the_unknown_soldier (675161) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994786)

according to the article in the smh, as long as they say it is legal im not liable... im going to download like crazy.... o wait, suprnova is still cheaper.

The price is right (5, Insightful)

NSash (711724) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994787)

$5 for 500 megabytes. Now this is more like it.

Re:The price is right (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8994919)

Easynews is $9.95 for 6 gigabytes. And just as legal.

Re:The price is right (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8994939)

yes but I encode at 2048kbps.

We knew it was going to come down to this... (3, Interesting)

ILL Robinson (228744) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994788)

...music has now become shovelware!

Seems legit on the surface. (2)

dhasenan (758719) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994789)

Anyone have more information? Especially someone who reads Russian? I could translate, but I wouldn't trust the result--I haven't studied Russian at all.

Re:Seems legit on the surface. (5, Informative)

NSash (711724) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994810)

Re:Seems legit on the surface. (1)

iapetus (24050) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994819)

The site's in English - did you have any Russian pages on it that you wanted translating in particular?

Re:Seems legit on the surface. (1)

dhasenan (758719) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994825)

I just noticed a fair amount of Cyrillic. Some of it might be interesting.

Re:Seems legit on the surface. (3, Funny)

lovemayo (674154) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994822)

Well, I could try... I know the "russian" up in the left corner means "russian" and the "english" next to it means "english"...

Re:Seems legit on the surface. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8994834)

They've got an english language version of the site, check the links at the top-left

Re:Seems legit on the surface. (1)

The Evil Couch (621105) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994906)

there's a button in the upperright corner to switch to an english mode. I'd tell you what it looks like, but their server is crying in a corner.

Re:Seems legit on the surface. (1)

The Evil Couch (621105) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994916)

err, upper left. my mistake.

Re:Seems legit on the surface. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8994913)

In Soviet Russia, information has you!

seems legal (5, Informative)

VC (89143) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994796)

Considering that the RIAA sued weblisten [theregister.co.uk] for RE-distributing allofmp3.com's content, but didnt sue them, this is probably legal..

Re:seems legal (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8994808)

oops, that should have said "sued puretunes", apologies, next time ill RTFA again and not rely on my infalliable memory.

Shady spelling (5, Informative)

Zagar (610861) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994801)

Dear users!
We proud to announce a new encoding function called Online Encoding Exclusive, which is a part of the "Online Encoding" service and became available at AllOFMP3.com in the test mode. Online Encoding Exclusive enables you to:

1. Encode music with LossLess encoding algorithms (Monkey's Audio, FLAC and OptimFrog) using the data of original audio CD as a source.
2. Encode music with our usual encoders (MP3, Ogg, etc.) using the data of original audio CD as a source.

Albums, that available for ordering through Online Encoding Exclusive service are marked with a special label . The amount of such albums will grow from day to day. We hope that you'll enjoy our new service.

More details about Online Encoding Exclusive service.

AllOFMP3.com team.

Re:Shady spelling (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8994840)

If Rocky and Bullwinkle has taught me anything, the text is a little too good. Too many uses of the words 'a' and 'the' -- just doesn't sound intimidating with thick accent.

Too good to be true (0)

JosKarith (757063) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994803)

So...I send my credit card details to Russia and some nice company will protect me from RIAA.
Riiiight. And as an added bonus I suppose I'll get 10% off my next Russian Bride too?

Re:Too good to be true (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8994818)

10% off a Russian bride? I just signed up!

Re:Too good to be true (-1, Offtopic)

narkotix (576944) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994829)

if they look anything like their pics ill take a russian bride [russianbrides.com] over any westernised skank these days.

Correction (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8994804)

"Sounds a little to good to be true :)"

too good to be true

Not legal (5, Insightful)

Simon Lyngshede (623138) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994807)

allofmp3.com isn't legal, it migth be in Russia, but that doesn't mean that people outside russia can buy from them legally. If they wish to tell to say Denmark, they must have an agreement with KODA (Danish RIAA), THEY DON'T. Same deal as with Spanish weblisten, legal in Spain, not outside.

It might be a nice service, but I won't recommend using it. If they do not have a deal with the RIAA equivalent in what ever country you're in, it is a waste of money.

Don't trust sites that sell music that doesn't have an agreement with a record label or the artists.

Re:Not legal (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8994814)

But still, you get a pretty good service compared to the crap which is flying around on all different filesharing networks.

Re:Not legal (2, Insightful)

Simon Lyngshede (623138) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994838)

That you do, but Im not paying to download music which is going to be considered illegal where I live. That would be stupid.

Re:Not legal (1)

tolan-b (230077) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994858)

Actually, as the downloader you're probably not breaking the copyright at least in the states, as you're not doing the copy. As long as you only use one copy.

There was an article from a supposedly well respected lawyer about this a while ago, on groklaw possibly? I think so.

Re:Not legal (1)

GraZZ (9716) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994900)

However, when your g-men break down your door and ask you where you got all the mp3s, you're far more likely to get off on having bought them a site that looks legal than from having downloaded them for free off p2p.

Also the high quality tracks on allofmp3 are well worth the pennies you pay for them.

Re:Not legal (5, Interesting)

Cred (754775) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994867)

I'm no expert on the matter but if I buy a CD from Russia that's $15 cheaper than in my country, do I have to pay again to the local RIAA just because I got it cheaper? Does it make the record illegal if I got it cheaper from Russia? No. If I buy legal online music from Russia instead say.. iTunes, does it make the songs illegal? I doubt. Why would it be? The only reason what I really can come up is RIAA way of thinking "it's never too expensive".

Re:Not legal (2, Informative)

G-funk (22712) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994883)

I can buy music from anywhere I like, and parallel importation has been legal in australia for about 10 years now, ACCC ruled it unfair for ARIA to be the only ones allowed to import music.

Re:Not legal (1)

RAMMS+EIN (578166) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994901)

However, I aksed the folks at weblisten and they replied it was ok for people in the USA to buy from them.

For me, it's not a problem, as I am outside RIAA jurisdiction - I can download anything I want - for the time being.

Re:Not legal (4, Insightful)

SubtleNuance (184325) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994903)

IANAL:

But the Berne Convention (and others) covers copyright between nations (ie: protect ours this, that, and the other-way and we'll protect yours the same). If I buy from Russia -- and its legal in russia -- than I can import it into my own country. Nothing is the matter.

Here is the real problem: Copyright is an outdated and broken concept, with all manner of issues involved now that physical scarcity of music has ended. Outside of oppressive cabals rigging the market (Koda/RIAA etc), how do you expect this all to work? It costs nothing to move $intellectual-property, so geography is irrelevant. It costs nothing to manufacture (cp mysong.wav yoursong.wav;wget http://allmusicisfree.com/yoursong.wav).

This hodge-podge of nonsense is collapsing under its own stupidity... and I say good. Its high time The People got to enjoy the benefits of our technological advances.

Re:Not legal (1)

dncsky1530 (711564) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994930)

good point...
just like kazza wasn't started in America, nor run anywhere close, the RIAA is still suing thousands of americans for using the service.

you bastards (5, Funny)

jaxon6 (104115) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994817)

Oh you rat bastards. I thought I had a good thing going. I was getting all the music I wanted for cheap, and the site was under the radar enough not to upset the sue-happy music bizfolk. Now my speeds are going to be shot, the company is going to be closed, and I'll have to go back to buying my four cds a year. So, once again slashdot screws me. To that I say fuck you very much.

Oh ya, I almost forgot. I found out about them from a slasdot post of somebodys. So, uhh, forget what I just said.

Re:you bastards (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8994926)

They killed Kenny!

Sounds a little to good to be true :) ..Why? (5, Insightful)

evil_roy (241455) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994820)

If you think that then you must live in some authoritarian state like ....

Who'd have thought it... Russia..the home of the brave and the free.

Debsux (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8994823)

I sure hope it all isn't running on DEBIAN.... I've got no desire to overpay for the only encoding Debian can do: wavs

A 300 meg wav, doesn't sound like a good deal to me.

Re:Debsux (0)

Tore S B (711705) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994864)

apt-get install mplayer mencoder, retard.

Nothing new here... (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8994828)

I've been using another service from Russia, MP3 Search Club [mp3search.ru] with great success for some time now. Frankly, I'm surprised this qualifies as news. This service, too, is liscenced by the "Russian RIAA". As a Canadian, I find this site an invaluable compliment to my right to make personal copies of music to share with others. ;-P Given, though, that this other site lets you encode in your favorite format, I'll probably soon switch over to them.

Who are "The MB" (5, Funny)

nutcracker666 (641676) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994831)

I am afraid I am too old to have heard of "The MB" so why would I want their music ? Are they one of those new-fangled rap / hip-hop groups ? All I can think of is The Moody Blues.

Reason this is legal... (4, Informative)

GraZZ (9716) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994837)

They Legal Info page on allofmp3.com has changed since I first started using the site (great service, they're definately NOT stealing credit card info), but the gist of their old legal page is that they were paying license fees as if they were broadcasting their music over radio; hence the license fee per song for them is probably less than a penny.

The best part about the site? After getting your account upgraded, you are able to rip and upload music to them and recieve DOUBLE your size credit in downloads :)

Re:Reason this is legal... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8994854)

you are able to rip and upload music to them and recieve DOUBLE your size credit

How can you claim this service is legal and then in the same breath make this statement? This service is *not* legal. The artists you should be supporting are NOT GETTING A DIME from the money you are spending. It is all going into the pockets of the russian mafia, lining the pockets of the government on the way.

Re:Reason this is legal... (1)

GraZZ (9716) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994885)

By uploading you're just providing them with source they don't yet have (is the argument they make). They then concievably would start paying license fees on this new material.

I suppose my subject title should have been "Reason they say this is legal"...

Re:Reason this is legal... (3, Insightful)

nattt (568106) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994937)

And how is that different from buying a CD in a store where all the money goes to the store and the RIAA, and the artist doesn't see any of it?

The fact is that if it costs a radio station a small fraction of a cent per listener per song, why does the licence component of a CD that I'm going to listen to $1?? It's one price for the radio (cheap) and another for the consumer(gets screwed)

10 minutes, and already suffering (1)

eofpi (743493) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994843)

It seems another site falls to the slashdot effect.

If you try to browse anything not on their top 10 list, you get interminable "server busy"-type messages. I don't think they'd planned to be slashdotted yet.

har har har (2, Funny)

maxdamage (615250) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994846)

Wow, You say I get 19 cds for just a penny!?!? How can I go wrong!

The Russian Mobsic Industry (3, Interesting)

53cur!ty (588713) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994850)

It's good to see the Russian Mob...I mean Music Industry meeting the needs of the consumers!

Two observations:

1st - Do any of you see the hypocrisy in buying from the Russian site? Are you the same people complaining about the outsourcing of American jobs/economy?

2nd - Has it occurred to anyone that the music industry is now mob run? Look at the tactics they employ compared to past mob practices. And no the mob doesn't kill everyone since then they don't pay, only when they need to make an example or you steal directly from them. However, the recent pay or we'll sue definitely follow their intimidation tactics. The mob goes where the money is; right now, that's media (music and movies).

Just my two-cents, think about it!

Let us streamline your world [roncadesign.com]

Re:The Russian Mobsic Industry (1)

meringuoid (568297) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994869)

Has it occurred to anyone that the music industry is now mob run?

I'd just like to say that this is a damned lie. The music industry has never had anything whatever to do with organised crime.
- Frank S., NY, NY

Re:The Russian Mobsic Industry (1)

tbone1 (309237) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994897)

Has it occurred to anyone that the music industry is now mob run?

Oh, piffle. The music industry has always been run by the mob.

Re:The Russian Mobsic Industry (1)

kfg (145172) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994920)

1st - Do any of you see the hypocrisy in buying from the Russian site? Are you the same people complaining about the outsourcing of American jobs/economy?

They're just trying to hasten the revolution. It's dialectics. I'll explain it to you later.

KFG

small "versions" of legal? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8994852)

WTF?
I thought this was Slashdot. Shouldn't that be VALUES of legal? As in a description of a variable. Or is this one of those .NET things?

Russians (1)

deutschemonte (764566) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994857)

Those wiley Russians, always the first ones out the gate trying to stick it to the man.

Incredibly good and useful (1)

cshuttle (613776) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994860)

Excellent site; I've obtain gigs and gigs from this site, and everything's available in my AR 320k VBR format that all my MP3's are in.

Re:Incredibly good and useful (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8994945)

Have been using this for only a week, but bought many albums. Excellent download speeds! My recommendation - download the MP3explorer software, it handles all the file downloads automatically. You can queue up several albums and let it do it's work :) You will also find all the ID3 tags are correct (apart from the occasional ` instead of ' and spaces before commas. Much better than Usenet (and bittorrent to a lesser extent). If you're worried about credit card security, they accept paypay and the money is credited within a minute (before slashdotting anyway!) I tend to stick to the 192Kbs, Lame Encoded files (constant bit rate), which makes an album around $0.60 to $0.80 (or about 0.40 for those in the UK) On our 1MB ADSL we get 40-100K/sec typically.

Top Notch (1)

twbell (257423) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994870)

This is a great site in my experience. Primarily b/c:
- they work with OGG files (and FLAC if you dig that)

- you can get them at high quality.
- no copy protection

Here's two links from Museekster for more info:

Review

Interview

Re:Top Notch (1)

twbell (257423) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994881)

And of course with the links...
Review [museekster.com]
Interview [museekster.com]

Slashdotted (1)

gkelman (665809) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994874)

Their site is struggling under the load. Someone setup a mirror with content, ta. :)

Wish Apple would hurry up and let me buy music in the UK. Although they probably don't have the Scorn albums I want, as _nowhere_ does.

Fris7 5top (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8994878)

that has lost 6ood 8anners

Dosvidanya to another source of inexpensive music (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8994891)

First emusic changed their rules, now allofmp3 has been /.ed. Sure the RIAA knows about them, just look at the emusic msg bds - how could they not? But now, with the bright lights and fame of /. they will be forced to take action. Great.

This just in, 541 lawsuits filed in Seattle, WA against: Comrade Doe1, Comrade Doe2, Comrade Doe3

News for Nerds (2, Informative)

Quo_R (734198) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994895)

You do realize that they have been in business for years? Welcome to last year.

Why? (2, Insightful)

MoThugz (560556) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994896)

Amazingly, the site offers files in any format and encoding you choose and rips it on the fly. Notifications by email follow when the songs are ready for download. Sounds a little to good to be true :)


Why does it sound too good to be true? There's no such technology? They can't possibly have all the CD titles that you're interested in?

This could have been done at least three years ago. The USian companies missed out not because of technological factors, but their stupid laws and of course, the paranoid state of mind of the RIAA.

This could have been "the" way to listen to music in this age and time... but noooo, somehow you MUST stick DRM in the files and whatnot. When will the relevant bodies realize that the more you restrict the consumers, the more they will look for an easier (and not necessarily legal) alternative.

About time (2, Informative)

RAMMS+EIN (578166) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994918)

About time this made the front page. Allofmp3.com, weblisten, mp3search.ru, and others were there long before ITMS, they are way cheaper, and they offer their service to all the world.

How is it that ITMS got so much more publicity, even on a site like Slashdot that typically doesn't blindly play along with the major corporations?

Blast! (1)

neoThoth (125081) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994922)

I was just getting into a nice groove and finding songs to download when a swarm of ravenous crack monkeys swarmed on the server!
I don't suppose someone mirrored the entire trip hop section of previews?

RIAA != ASCAP (4, Informative)

Peter Desnoyers (11115) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994923)

AllofMP3 has a license from the artists' association in Russia, not the record labels - i.e. the ASCAP equivalent, not the RIAA equivalent. Under Russian law this is sufficient, according to the website. (I'd give a link, but the server is slashdotted at the moment...)

Vorbis (0, Redundant)

RAMMS+EIN (578166) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994933)

Amazingly, /. forgot to mention you choose includes Ogg Vorbis, besides the MP3/WMA choice other sites offer.

Otlichna! (1)

suso (153703) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994942)

Saychas ya magy slysheet Gyst uz Bydeshevo.

Like I can't listen to it already. mp3.ru already offers free music by the megabyte. Several Russian sites do.

Well, it is too good to be true (5, Interesting)

cpt kangarooski (3773) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994944)

It's probably great for Russians. But for Americans at least, the site is illegal.

Our laws prohibit most unauthorized distribution and reproduction of copyrighted works in the US per 17 USC 106. The party that can authorize it is the US copyright holder -- this is prone to be a different entity than rights holders abroad.

While some degree of importation is allowed per 602 and 109, this doesn't qualify. A copy isn't merely being brought into the country, but rather due to the way computers work (see the infamous MAI v. Peak case, which while wrong is commonly relied upon), a new copy is being made on the downloader's end that did not originate in Russia, and thus wasn't imported as 602 requires. (Though what it was copied _from_ did -- it's the difference betweeen a CD that can be brought from place to place, and making a tape of what you hear on the phone)

Even the ability to legally import unauthorizedly is somewhat limited; the idea is that if we have copyright laws domestically, to allow people to do an end run around it by operating in a country with less or no copyright, then importing works here en masse would result in things being, well, fucked up, basically. This site basically demonstrates how such a thing might happen.

The Russians are probably fine -- if they're careful, RIAA won't be able to shut them down. OTOH, Americans using the service could get into significant trouble if they're caught.

All that having been said, I'd like to see the law changed to better suit the desires of the public, but for now there are problems for this.

I've got karma to burn ....... (0, Insightful)

un1xl0ser (575642) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994947)

Is this a true statement?

Something Not Funny || Something Off Topic + Mentioning(Karma Burn || Having Karma to Burn) == Karma Points

If so.. .... fuck that

- un1xl0ser

Album is Wanted?? (3, Interesting)

HarryCallahan (673707) | more than 10 years ago | (#8994949)

Some of the albums have a category of "Wanted" i.e. they don't currently have it but would like someone to give it so them I presume. Like this page here has one http://catalog.allofmp3.com/mcatalog.shtml?group=4 564&albref=14

Someone else above also said that if you upload an album you get 2 free as credit, or something like that. So this would mean they are receiving uploads from people and then onselling the music. This is definately not legal in the west.

Seems to just be a case of Russia saying screw the west we'll do business our way in our country. And good on them.
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