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A Camaro That Leaves A Wake

timothy posted more than 10 years ago | from the grand-theft-wtf dept.

Toys 391

Artana Niveus Corvum writes "I came across this entirely at random, but it seems like someone with too much time on his hands has taken an old idea and improved on it... and come up with something truly unique and cool: a car based on a 2002 Camaro body with a Subaru WRX Turbo engine (300 horsepower) capable of going over 125MPH that doubles as a boat capable of going over 40MPH."

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FIRST POST (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9037808)

ellen []

fast enough? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9037813)

fast enough to get first p?

First Post! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9037814)

Wait. This isn't! Fuck...

I dont care about the car (-1, Offtopic)

panxerox (575545) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037816)

as much as that freaking anfy popup crap.

Re:I dont care about the car (1)

Curtman (556920) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037913)

Popup crap? Firefox [] to the rescue.

Re:I dont care about the car (1)

macshune (628296) | more than 10 years ago | (#9038017)

This dude totally put the wrong body on his car. Although I can't find out why he chose a Camaro because his site is down, he missed out on even more high-fives and conversation snippets like these:


"I haven't seen a floating delorean since 2004."

"The way I see it, if you're gonna build flotation into a car, why not do it with some style?"

Re:I dont care about the car (1)

lvdrproject (626577) | more than 10 years ago | (#9038012)

I found the Java applet far more annoying.

I hate Java, what the Hell. :(

Mirror , just in case (3, Informative) (664381) | more than 10 years ago | (#9038022)

Just in case the server crashes and burns (like they usually do),I have put up a mirror.
The mirror of is at m/meetbuilder.html []
The mirror of is at m/ []
The mirror of is at m/photo.html []

fp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9037821)


Re:fp (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9037835)

Hmm... f must stand for "fifth" now... Or maybe you meant to say "ffp," for "fourth first post?"

Already dead link... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9037823)

The site must have been running on someone's personal home server because slashdot crashed their server.

Re:Already dead link... (1)

swordfishBob (536640) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037973)

Or is he linked from the 419 flash mob pages? (slashdot yro item today)

Too much time on his hands? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9037824)

This guy had an idea and started a business. He's done more than people here who bitch about companies outsourcing IT jobs to India.

slow as a turtle (-1, Troll)

ignatus (669972) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037825)

You got to be kidding.
I read this story years ago. I thought this was a _news_ portal

Re:slow as a turtle (1)

JET 666 (28153) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037852)

no they switched to "olds".

Slashdotted already (5, Funny)

PatrickThomson (712694) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037827)

2 below-threshold comments and it's down ... come on people, you're like the hand of a vengeful god of websites!

Re:Slashdotted already (4, Informative)

FrYGuY101 (770432) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037848)

Google Cache []

Google images (5, Funny)

GoClick (775762) | more than 10 years ago | (#9038023)

Do we not yet realize that all slashdotters do is look at pictures and google doesn't tend to cache those?


Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9037890)


Well (5, Funny)

ebob9 (726509) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037828)

This will sure resolve all those commuter issues in Venice.

40MPH? (3, Funny)

Hatta (162192) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037830)

40MPH? What's that in knots?

Re:40MPH? (4, Informative)

DaLiNKz (557579) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037845)

well this [] says 34.74 knots

Re:40MPH? (3, Interesting)

platipusrc (595850) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037862)

Google [] disagrees (only a little). Who do we trust?!

Re:40MPH? (5, Informative)

MrDelSarto (95771) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037860)

units knows all

ianw@mingus:~$ units
2084 units, 71 prefixes, 32 nonlinear units

You have: 40mph
You want: knot
* 34.75905
/ 0.028769486

So about 35 knots

Re:40MPH? (2, Interesting)

Afrosheen (42464) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037957)

Sweet tip. I just did 'urpmi units' and sure enough there was a mandrake rpm for it. I'll have to remember this little gem for the future.

Re:40MPH? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9037863) -8&q=40+mph+in+knots

Re:40MPH? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9038015)

if you're gonna do it, do it with style [] .

Re:40MPH? (1, Informative)

yetiman (262330) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037864)

1 knot = 1.1km/h

Re:40MPH? (3, Informative)

kauschovar (601739) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037893)

1 knot = 1.1km/h

no, 1 knot = 1.15 mph = 1.852 km/h

Re:40MPH? (5, Informative)

stlthVector (468932) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037868)

You can use google and type in this:
40mph in knots

it will give you this:
40 mph = 34.7590497 knots

Re:40MPH? (2, Funny)

DaLiNKz (557579) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037874)

Just when I thought google had everything.. it has more :o

But what is the price? (4, Interesting)

thing2b (683741) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037832)

Engine 2.5 Subaru Turbo
Transmission Rancho 4-Speed Manual
Jet Berkeley 12 JE
Length 207"
Width 75"
Height 49"
Weight 2775 Lbs.
Wheelbase 100"
Road Speed 125 MPH
Water Speed 45 MPH
Fuel Capacity 22 Gallons


Re:But what is the price? (5, Funny)

Phsyco (188558) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037877)

Does anyone know of a mass produced land/water capable vehicle past or present? I wonder if there would be a market large enough to justify an assembly line for these things.

Unless of course the make amphibious SUVs, the exhaust contributes to global warming, which raises the water level, which makes them useful.

Where do I get one?

Re:But what is the price? (4, Informative)

saiha (665337) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037896)

Previously on slashdot, for only 150,000 pounds []

Re:But what is the price? (1)

Mad Marlin (96929) | more than 10 years ago | (#9038014)

DUCW (pronounced "duck") from WWII. They were mass-produced, and there are still a few laying around. I would like to get one and restore it sometime.

Re:But what is the price? (1)

Mad Marlin (96929) | more than 10 years ago | (#9038033)

I mean DUKW. It's as hard to spell as it is to pronounce. link []

Slow Down Cowboy!

Slashdot requires you to wait 2 minutes between each successful posting of a comment to allow everyone a fair chance at posting a comment.

Re:But what is the price? (2, Insightful)

saiha (665337) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037882)

Just to let you know, he actually is building more of them to sell, no price was listed that I could see. Although maybe its probably if you have to ask, its too much.

Re:But what is the price? (1)

Martin Blank (154261) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037891)

OK, maybe someone who has seen the actual site can tell me if the original car was a Camaro or a Z28, seeing as the 2002 Z28 puts out 305HP on its own, and gets well past 125mph at its top speed (I believe the computer limits it to 147mph without mods, and I know I've been to 122 in my 2002 SS with plenty of room to spare). Maybe the modifications that allow it to float interfere with higher speeds?

Re:But what is the price? (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9037961)

A properly tuned WRX 2.5 litre turbo can put out about 320 horsepower. Since that is coming out of 4 small cylinders, rather than 8 large ones, the weight of the engine is miniscule compared to that of a Z28. Yes there is turbo lag, but the weight difference and significantly flatter power curve of the 2.5 makes it a better choice for more advanced applications.

Re:But what is the price? (0, Flamebait)

filledwithloathing (635304) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037964)

He didn't actually start with a Camero, just a Camero funny car type shell for looks. Then he stuck the WRX engine in the custom frame he built. He didn't swap out the Camero engine for the WRX engine.

Re:But what is the price? (5, Interesting)

Afrosheen (42464) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037967)

I'm guessing they chose the Subaru engine for packaging. The Subaru STi engine they're using is a turbocharged 2.5 liter flat four (opposing cylinders) boxer engine. The layout and size of the engine is ideal for a watercar. The Camaro v8 is a monstrosity compared to this engine, and it is quite tall in comparison.

Liter for liter, the Subaru engine is better for this application.

Almost /.'ed... (1)

Money for Nothin' (754763) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037833)

Now if only their server had power to match that...

I hate /. sometimes (1, Redundant)

ResQuad (243184) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037836)

Intresting article I am sure. But before more than a few comments are posted, its already toasted. The editors need to have some sort of mirror... google, anything.

Re:I hate /. sometimes (1)

falcon5768 (629591) | more than 10 years ago | (#9038026)

just three words.


that will answer your question on why there is no mirrors...

And a website (1)

falcon5768 (629591) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037837)

at a dead stop cause it was slashdotted!

WRX or STi? (3, Informative)

Slack3r78 (596506) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037838)

Slight nitpick, but is it using the engine from a WRX or an STi? They're essentially the same car, but the WRX puts out around 230 horsepower whereas the STi puts out either 276 or 300, depending on where in the world you are.

This is a really interesting project either way, neat hack.

Re:WRX or STi? (1)

JET 666 (28153) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037866)

2.5 is the STI

Re:WRX or STi? (1)

wankledot (712148) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037912)

They're both 2.5l

Re:WRX or STi? (2, Interesting)

FrYGuY101 (770432) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037869)

It's the same engine, only modified.

The STi adds a larger turbo, a strengthened block, and different pistons which reduce the friction.

But it's the same engine design.

Re:WRX or STi? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9037892)

In the US the STi is a 2.5L motor. Most of the rest is correct though.

Re:WRX or STi? (1)

wankledot (712148) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037886)

Well, the internals of those engines are essentially the same (unless the STi has a larger turbo, I'm not up on the scooby scene that much.), and the HP difference is made up in tuning, so depending on how they set up the motor, it could make anywhere from 220 to 350HP+, ripping up a regular WRX would be a lot more cost effective, especially if they found a wrecked one.

Putting that engine in a Camaro is like dropping a 'vette engine in a Pinto: totally stupid. But maybe the camaro was easier to waterproof.

Re:WRX or STi? (1)

tommyboyprime (694285) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037940)

Reminds me of the time that a friend of mine (back in the late 60's) took a Chevy small block and put it into an old VW Beetle. It couldn't go around corners very well, but could out drag anything else I knew of. Only problem was: the aerodynamics of the VW caused it to take off at around 130 mph. At a curve the thing still wanted to go straight and tried to mate with a telephone pole. Believ it or not, my friend didn't even get a scratch.

Re:WRX or STi? (1)

DJOrient (573868) | more than 10 years ago | (#9038001)

in the US, the WRX is sold with a 2.0l while the STI is sold with a 2.5l. While essentially the same block, the huge increase in displacement gives the 75+ HP bump as compared to the 2.0l.

Oblig. Deadmilkmen quote... BITCHIN CAMARO!! (5, Funny)

drayzel (626716) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037840)

Wow, who would of thought THIS would ever be ON TOPIC?!?! Maybe he wasn't kidding?

"Uh, how you gonna get down to the shore?
Funny you should ask, I've got a car now.
Oh wow, how'd you get a car?
Oh, my parents drove it up here from the Bahamas.
You're kidding!
I must be, the Bahamas are islands, okay, the important thing now, is
that you ask me what kind of car I have.
Uh, what kinda car do ya got?
I've got a

(go find the MP3... legaly of course)


Re:Oblig. Deadmilkmen quote... BITCHIN CAMARO!! (1)

weeboo0104 (644849) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037872)

OMG!!! I havn't heard that song in almost 12 years! That was about the funniest thing I've read in a while.

Re:Oblig. Deadmilkmen quote... BITCHIN CAMARO!! (2, Interesting)

syphax (189065) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037975)

Oh man, I haven't even thought of that song in a long time.

The lyrics are here []

'Bitchin' Camaro, Bitchin' Camaro!
I ran over my neighbors
Bitchin' Camaro, Bitchin' Camaro!
Now I'm in all the papers

My folks bought me a bitchin' Camaro
With no insurance to match
So if I happen to run you down
Please don't leave a scratch'

Somehow that seemed more clever when I was 16...

Thats all fine and dandy but... (1)

nadolph (661727) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037847)

... does it run linux?

Google Cache (4, Informative)

datastalker (775227) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037854)

Google Cache Here []

Re:Google Cache (1)

momerath2003 (606823) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037921)

Obligatory Google cache of Google [] in case it gets slashdotted.

Bitchin Camaro (4, Funny)

zazas_mmmm (585262) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037857)

Just because it's a speed boat doesn't make it any less of a Camaro.

It's like a case mod made to look like a can of Hamm's [] .

E-8 (5, Funny)

TechnologyX (743745) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037870)

Looks like we sunk his battleship.. err, server


Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9037878)

Someone please send me a gmail invite,thx


Article Text (5, Informative)

Splezunk (250168) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037879)

Dave March - Builder of the WaterCar
WaterCar, Inc. is the brainchild of Dave March and his two sons. For over thirty years March has been an avid high performance car and boat enthusiast. His passion and desire has been for building and piloting fast planes, boats and cars. To facilitate his obsession for cars and boats he also developed a knack for repairing wrecked cars and boats. For the past twenty years March started and developed his collision repair business into one of the largest, most state of the art facilities in the world. He then took many of the systems and repair techniques that he developed and co-founded the Caliber Collision Center Franchise which currently has annual revenue of over 155 million.

In 1998 March accepted an offer to sell his business and semi-retired. After putting the finishing touches on his large custom home he built on the golf course in Newport Coast above his 6,000 square foot basement garage/design center equipped with every conceivable tool and piece of equipment imaginable found himself with a lot of spare time and pent up creative juices. This is dangerous combination for Dave March. He was looking for a challenge when his youngest son began looking at amphibious cars. Together they found a 1964 Amphicar and restored it. After all the work, they were disappointed by its performance. It was fun to drive into the water, but once in the water, it was slow and not as much fun as expected.

March threw himself into researching every amphibious vehicle in the world and discovered that amphibious vehicles are much more popular in Europe. And, to his astonishment, he realized that of all the vehicles ever built, no one had successfully built a true high performance amphibious vehicle.

That's when it hit him- why not combine his love of high performance cars and boats into a single, high performance amphibious car? "Everything he needed was right here in Southern California". The best hydraulics are available from the low-rider crowd and the rear-engine drive technology from the high performance sand-rail market. Every drive train combination you could imagine is available for inspection at Glamis. The brakes, suspension and speed accessories come from the hot rod aftermarket industry which is booming in Southern California. The most important part, hull and jet configuration, from the performance- boat industry along with unlimited input from great boat people that are very willing to help. He started thinking he could build a high performance amphibious car from off the shelf parts.

March wanted to build a four-seater, yet still keep the car sporty looking. The 2002 Camaro was the ideal starting point. He purchased a Camaro fiberglass funny-car shell body, added hundreds of labor hours and he had a great looking Camaro car/boat plug. He built the molds from the plug and proceeded to build the first parts.

March built a lightweight stainless frame to mount the suspension and motor to and fit it to the body. The challenge was to make the wheels retractable. He attended a couple of low-rider shows to figure how to make the wheels retractable and settled on using parts from Homies Hydraulics. The motor and jet combo was another significant challenge, particularly getting it all to fit in the trunk area. March wanted the WaterCar to look as much like a stock Camaro as possible.

The first time on the water, the vehicle performed beautifully, with only one significant problem: "It wouldn't plane out!" He made multiple trial trips back and forth to the lake, adding more boost for additional power and tinkering on the jet setup. After some additional work on the bottom, he was finally getting on plane easily and reaching 45 mph. Success at last!

The newest version of March's handiwork drives just like a car on the road and actually handles very well with the Corvette suspension. "It has plenty of power from the Subaru 2.5 Turbo WRX motor. When you go in the water, you simply drive in, put the transmission in neutral, engage the jet, flip the switch to raise the wheels, and you're boating.

March claims he had no idea of the sheer amount of attention the WaterCar would get everywhere it goes. Heads turn, and often when driving down the freeway people are waving. When I'm in the water, the big question is, 'Does it really drive on land?' and when on land, "Does it really go in the water?".

The vehicle's performance hitting speeds of 45 MPH on water and 125 MPH on land have exceeded even March's expectations, whether he is cruising down the freeway or out on the lake. "It has been the subject of literally thousands of thumbs-up and high fives. It is amazing how many people whip out their cameras to get a shot of it."

With all the success March has decided to start producing the WaterCar in limited quantities. He is offering the WaterCars as a finished turn-key version or and a complete rolling chassis version less engine.

Camaro with a WRX Engine (0, Troll)

NitsujTPU (19263) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037887)

Considering that the LS1 engine that came stock on the Z-28 and SS modes pumps 305-320 (and thats underrated, the same engine powers Corvettes, and Chevy understated the output so it wouldn't cut into Corvette sales). Popping a turboed WRX engine in there is hardly an "upgrade."

Re:Camaro with a WRX Engine (1)

wankledot (712148) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037947)

Except that the WRX is a flat-4 which makes it much more shallow, that could help in getting it out of the way of the water, or more room to fold up the wheels. Not to mention being lighter than the LS motors.

Re:Camaro with a WRX Engine (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9037971)

Hello, the 2000's are calling. V8's are lame. The 2.5 litre WRX engine puts out over 320 hosepower. And it weighs about half that of a similarily powered V8. Drop 400 pounds from your fatass Z28 and that is the kind of performance "upgrade" we would be talking about here.

Re:Camaro with a WRX Engine (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9037998)

there is no replacement for displacement, douche!

Re:Camaro with a WRX Engine (1)

woobieman29 (593880) | more than 10 years ago | (#9038000)

True, though the best "upgrade" of all would have been to leave the engine in the Scooby body, and build the drivetrain around Subaru's AWD system. The Scooby's suspension and drivetrain are worlds better than anything ever made by GM, including the Corvette. Just thinking about that beautiful engine in an ugly, antiquated piece of GM crap brings a tear to my eye.... Gonna have to go drive my 99 Scooby now just to make myself feel better.

Re:Camaro with a WRX Engine (1)

DJOrient (573868) | more than 10 years ago | (#9038025)

i would have to guess that the craft was built on the camaro chassi srather than the WRX for a number of reasons - 1st being that the Camaro chasis being larger and having a less sophisticated suspension system, would make for a better boat candidate. Secondly, Camaros are by far cheaper than WRX chassis are. 3rd - since this is a compromise build being BOAT first, and CAR second, it would be an impratical build to have a boat with AWD.

Hmmm........ (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9037895)

"seems like someone with too much time on his hands"

I agree.... wait, was that about the boat/car builder or the submitter?

Indeed a slow day.

Terra Wind (2, Interesting)

scubacuda (411898) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037897)

Yeah, but is it as cool as the Terra Wind [] ?

Eh, whatever... (1)

TWX (665546) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037904)

125 really isn't all that fast, and I hope they didn't change out the engine just to achieve more power. If they made it an all wheel drive vehicle with proper balance between the wheels (and less excessive weight on the front from the removal of the GM 350ci V8), then that's good. The boat thing is just becoming passé. While it requires some engineering, a low center of gravity with proper sealing and flotation will allow anything to become a boat.

My '78 Chrysler Cordoba could do 125...

Re:Eh, whatever... (1)

wankledot (712148) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037959)

They are using a 4sp Manual tranny, I wouldn't be surprised if that was the bottleneck. 300HP is more than enough to push a car past 125, even a big fat pig of a camaro.

Adding AWD to that car would be pointless and expensive.

Re:Eh, whatever... (1)

TWX (665546) | more than 10 years ago | (#9038020)

"Adding AWD to that car would be pointless and expensive."

Expensive, yes, but I wouldn't call it pointless. A friend of mine had a Mitsubishi 3000GT (might have been a Dodge Stealth actually, but the AWD versions are identical except for the headlights and spoiler placement) and it was all wheel drive. He would take turns at speeds that were just nuts, accelerating through them. Some of the freeway ramps marked with a serious 30MPH recommended speed he'd fly around at 80, and have grip to spare. It was an incredible ride.

The trouble is, it was mechanically a nightmare, and was in the shop enough that apparently mechanical failure is how Mitsubishi decided to let owners know that it was time for an oil change.

Having finally been able to read the site on the water car, it appears to be a custom body that is modelled after the Camaro, not a real one. It's rear engine, like any good boat, and fibreglass. 125 is okay, but nothing to write home about, considering the probable lack of weight.

Re:Eh, whatever... (1)

davidmcn (606752) | more than 10 years ago | (#9038016)

No kidding. If your pumping near 300HP out of an engine, the car has got to way 4 tons for you to only be able to get to 125MPH. I mean hell, a 170HP Ford Focus SVT will get you to 130(electronically limited). So even at double the weight, which I doubt this car is, it should still be able to easily reach 130+ with a 300hp engine.

Re:Eh, whatever... (1)

DJOrient (573868) | more than 10 years ago | (#9038046)

you're not looking at the big pisture - its not just power - weight ratio that determines top speed of a car - its also gearing. The same gearing that allows for a top speed of 40 MPH on water is most likely limiting street driving to 125 MPH. Call me crazy - but I wouldn't want to be in any boat/car that do either of those speeds anyways.

Bond Boat. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9037907)

"a car based on a 2002 Camaro body with a Subaru WRX Turbo engine (300 horsepower) capable of going over 125MPH that doubles as a boat capable of going over 40MPH."

My name's Bond. James Bond.

Half the price (5, Informative)

BrookHarty (9119) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037911)

Pictures of Watercar and Aquada. []

Nice to see that the watercar is 150K while the other Aquada [] is 235K.

Now lets see something a slashdot reader can afford. :)

I emit a certain smell from my anus (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9037914)

I emit a certain smell from my anus

All they need... (4, Funny)

NeuroManson (214835) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037918)

Is a scanning red light on the front, and they'd have Knight Boat!

As long as there's always a canal, that is.

Re:All they need... (2, Funny)

AnotherFreakboy (730662) | more than 10 years ago | (#9038043)

There's always a canal... or an inlet... or a stream, river, bay...

unique? no. (3, Informative)

LuxFX (220822) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037920)

and come up with something truly unique and cool: a car ... that doubles as a boat

Maybe cool, but not unique! There was a story [] about a sportcar/speedboat that came up a while back. True, it can only go 100mph on land and 30mph in the water, but I'd say it's close enough to say it's not unique.

Oh yeah, and this site called Slash- something or other posted about the the same vehicle [] .

(note: not that I'm upset with the content of this news item, I think it's even cooler to have modded a car to do this than to create one from scratch -- I just have a problem with hype like saying something is new and unique when it's not)

Fastest aquatic vehicle... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9037925)

maybe, but those pictures sure were slow to load.

Engine swap, or augmentation? (0)

Feren (97175) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037926)

Without reading the article (as the site is down) I'm having a hard time understanding if he swapped the Camaro's stock motor out with the one from the Subaru, or if he's using it as some sort of augmentation.

If the car was an SS or a Z28 I definately do not understand why he would do an engine swap -- it's difficult to believe that the Subaru's engine brings much to the table that the LS1 couldn't. The LS1 engine puts out around 325hp stock in the 01-02 model years, is a V8 and has an all-aluminum construction. It's also a torque monster in the upper RPM bands. What's not to love about that?

Now if the car were just a plain-jane Camaro or an RS running the 5800 V6 engine it makes perfect sense to swap the engine out, although I can't imagine what a PITA it must have been to make a Subaru engine run in a Camaro. The rewiring couldn't have been pretty.

Re:Engine swap, or augmentation? (1)

wankledot (712148) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037970)

A flat-4 scooby engine could probably sit higher in the engine compartment, making the water issue less of a problem. It's also very light, and would leave more room for the wheels being pulled up while it's in the water.

Re:Engine swap, or augmentation? (1)

FrYGuY101 (770432) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037977)

One word:


I'd imagine they needed space for Waterproofing, or foam, or maybe just needed to cut the weight down.

Re:Engine swap, or augmentation? (1)

Afrosheen (42464) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037999)

You should read a few posts up, there's a karma whore reposting the article.

At any rate the Subaru engine was chosen for power and size. It was the best solution for a midengined car boat. You have a 2.5 liter turbocharged flat 4 which gives you a smaller engine, a lower center of gravity, and some good ol' Japanese reliability. Also consider the weight savings over a V8.

BTW if you're comparing per liter output, the v8 sucks in this case.

A /. first! (2, Funny)

st0rmshadow (643869) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037927)

A post about a car that isn't turned into a robot, Star Wars ship, or anime something or other!

I like the idea, but... (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9037928)

...geez, did it really *have* to be a Camaro?

I mean come on, that's like spending tens of thousands on a high end stereo and on room acoustics, then playing the Beastie Boys.

Do you need to wear a mullet? (1)

xs650 (741277) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037938)

It has a Camaro body, but has several other major non-Camaro systems.

Are you still required to wear the typical Camaro drivers mullet, or can you avoid it because it isn't pure Camaro?

Bitchn Camaro (1)

Hungus (585181) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037949)

Now we know how Rod got his ride [] , his parents really did drive to the Bahamas

Too much time on their hands? (4, Interesting)

anon* (637224) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037953)

As opposed to those people who build Lego models of the Deathstar, or memorize Pi to 15,000 digits.

Say what you want about the guy, I bet he has no problem picking up chicks.

carboats are stupid (3, Insightful)

GoClick (775762) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037966)

Car Boat crosses are neither original or good. They fail as cars and as boats.

They generally have VERY poor on water performance especially considering for the price of building one of these monstrosities you could have a sports car and a sport boat. Considering the engine on that thing, the boat performance aspect of it is awful it's not even close to being fast for a water craft and it's not even the worlds fastest car boat cross either, not even close, try 80mph but I digress he gave it a good shot.

Car boat crosses then to be very unsafe on land at higher speeds because the hull shape forces air down and builds a bow wave of air making the front end unstable causing at least poor searing response and at worst roll overs and swerving.

This is just a waste of a good car and some boat parts and a whole lot of time. Considering no one's time is free even the cheapest moron with a car could buy a crappy boat working at McDonald's in less time and then he'll have a boat and a car and people won't laugh at him on and off water.

Just FYI my Sea-Doo does over 40mph on water and seats 3 instead of two.

125 .... we need to set a theshhold. (0, Redundant)

Rev. DeFiLEZ (203323) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037976)

DONT get me wrong this is impressive, but it the things other then speed. The land speed could have been safely left out.

125MPH is not impressive, I have done that on my 500cc "beginner" bike (that blackout last summer where the police were direct traffic at lights instead of handing out speeding tickets). And I did 110MPH in my stock ford focus (before I chickened out)

I am aware that it is a dual purpose vehicle but an underpan should improve the land speed of a car.

Seen these for years (1)

Stevyn (691306) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037986)

I've seen these every once in a while on the discovery or learning channel. Cars that are also boats. Okay, so this one might be a little faster and cooler looking, but the bottom line is they don't sell because there's no market.

But cool nonetheless.

This was in... (5, Informative)

Valkyre (101907) | more than 10 years ago | (#9037996)

Popular mechanics a few months back [] . Old news.

Subaru engine used in kit planes (4, Interesting)

ayeco (301053) | more than 10 years ago | (#9038024)

W/o seeing the article, I can understand why they are using the subaru engine. They have been used in kit planes [] for years.

Boat speeds are measured in knots, not mph (4, Informative)

IronBlade (60118) | more than 10 years ago | (#9038034)

As such Google [] tells me that 45 mph = 39.1039309 knots.
Pretty decent speed, that....

Morons didn't even check out the website (5, Informative)

eagl (86459) | more than 10 years ago | (#9038044)

Buncha morons posting trashtalk here... Lets see how many idiotic comments don't make any sense.

1. Camaro has 4 seats, not 2, and this boatcar also has 4 seats.
2. The subaru engine has plenty of power to push a car like this to over 125 mph. The basic camaro RS has less power than that subaru engine and can take a camaro RS to around 135 mph.
3. It uses a jetdrive, not a prop
4. It isn't a converted camaro, rather it's a custom design that looks like a camaro and actually uses many suspension parts from a corvette.
5. If you read the material, you see that the smooth underbody for water use is achieved through moving panels. In land mode, the panels are retracted. This likely disrupts airflow under the body and reduces lift.
6. Unless you're an aerodynamic engineer, STFU about what the boat hull shape will do to the aerodynamics of the vehicle. The original pre-1998 camaro was shaped like a wing and would flip over at speeds over around 180. This thing is sculpted in a rather different fashion and speculation on it's aerodynamic behavior without knowing the cross sectional shape or doing wind tunnel testing is just that - uninformed speculation.

Pitiful negative morons bagging on the article without even looking at the website... How about a big cupful of STFU.

I own a 2002 Camaro SS... (2)

imidazole2 (776413) | more than 10 years ago | (#9038047)

And 125mph is nothing. I take it up to 155mph (Where the speedo cuts off) at least once a week. I'd hate to have my 5.7l V8 gutted for a 4-banger. Thats blasphemy..
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