×

Welcome to the Slashdot Beta site -- learn more here. Use the link in the footer or click here to return to the Classic version of Slashdot.

Thank you!

Before you choose to head back to the Classic look of the site, we'd appreciate it if you share your thoughts on the Beta; your feedback is what drives our ongoing development.

Beta is different and we value you taking the time to try it out. Please take a look at the changes we've made in Beta and  learn more about it. Thanks for reading, and for making the site better!

GPS Cell Phone in Soda Can Form

michael posted more than 9 years ago | from the new-coke dept.

Wireless Networking 301

Myko writes "PhoneScoop.com reports that Coca Cola has unleashed a new GPS enabled cell phone for a new promo. Apparently the user will push one button which will auto dial a Coke rep that will tell them they won an SUV. They'll then press and enable the GPS and the prize squad will drive to their location with the prize. So the big question is, will the phone give off any residual waves that will allow custom made detection equipment to find the right 12 pack, similar to the tilt and win iTunes trick? :)" We mentioned this last year, but it wasn't clear how the GPS-in-a-can trick was going to work.

cancel ×
This is a preview of your comment

No Comment Title Entered

Anonymous Coward 1 minute ago

No Comment Entered

301 comments

Could it be? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9073385)

Could it be that I am the first to post?....or do i FAIL IT?

Only time will tell.....

YOU WIN IT! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9073581)

Congratulations. I bow to your fp abilities.

This is nothing (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9073391)

I had a tin can phone when I was a kid using the latest in string technology. The range and clarity still beat my cell phone today.

Re:This is nothing (5, Funny)

Hiro Antagonist (310179) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073416)

I had a tin can phone when I was a kid using the latest in string technology. The range and clarity still beat my cell phone today.

Another satisfied Sprint customer, I see.

Re:This is nothing (5, Funny)

nacturation (646836) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073638)

Another satisfied Sprint customer, I see.

Connections so clear you'll notice a pin dropping. *

(* That is, if it's a really heavy pin and it impales your foot. Sprint not responsible for infections as a result. Do not try at home. Not for internal use.)

Spc. Lynndie England (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9073471)

Spc. Lynndie England could have me on a leash [yimg.com] - anytime, anywhere

What If? (3, Interesting)

Mr. Troll (202208) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073520)

The artical says GSM phone.....what if you live somewhere that has no GSM coverage? I mean, if you aren't near a coast or a heavily populated area, you kinda screwed no?

Then again, I'm sure they'd just have you call some number otherwise...

I really should think before I post. /all spelling errors intentional

Re:What If? (2, Interesting)

isn't my name (514234) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073629)

The artical says GSM phone.....what if you live somewhere that has no GSM coverage? I mean, if you aren't near a coast or a heavily populated area, you kinda screwed no?

Given that the article also says they are going to drive the SUV to you, I would expect that they will know which city the cell-phone is located in. I can't imagine them driving the SUV all the way across the country.

So, likely it will be released where GSM coverage is available.

Cola Contests (5, Informative)

bobej1977 (580278) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073395)

Presumably, they're smart enough to not turn the thing on until you pushed the button. Your coca-cola probably gets bottled in your town or a nearby small town. My town of 100k has it's own bottler. They'll know which districts are getting a can so that their prize patrols can be ready.

On a side note, I went to school with a kid who won a Jeep in the Pepsi contest where each cap had a word and you had to make phrases. The phrase was like 'DO IT' or something. The Jeep had a ton of pepsi stickers all over it and the contract he signed required that he could not sell it or remove any of the stickers for one year. Of course he had to pay the tax on the $20,000 vehicle before they would hand it over. Still better than a kick in the pants, but it's amazing the hoops they make you jump through.

Re:Cola Contests (1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9073421)


The Jeep had a ton of pepsi stickers all over it and the contract he signed required that he could not sell it or remove any of the stickers for one year. Of course he had to pay the tax on the $20,000 vehicle before they would hand it over.

He could have left it parked in his garage, let the home insurance cover it and sell it in a year with very low KM on it.

Re:Cola Contests (1)

trentblase (717954) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073435)

Presumably, they're smart enough to not turn the thing on until you pushed the button.

If it has an antenna, though you could detect it the same way that RFID works. No doubt they add extra shielding (although the can itself probably does just fine by itself... enclosing it in a conductor)

Re:Cola Contests (1)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073446)

They'll also get even more detailed locations than that... by tracking the shipping process, they'll know which store wound up with the winning 12-pack. It's a safe bet that the winner will be within a 20 mile or so radius of that store.

Re:Cola Contests (1)

WormholeFiend (674934) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073460)

i find it strange that the recipient of the prize had to pay the tax on that vehicle...

it's not like Pepsi is a car dealership. wouldnt Pepsi be required to pay the tax on that vehicle when they bought it for their contest?

if so, it'd be double-dipping.

Re:Cola Contests (1)

goates (412876) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073521)

IS this in the US? If so they get taxed something like 50% of whatever you win, so winning a $40,000 dollar car will cost you $20,000. I bet someone could correct me or clear this up.

goates

Re:Cola Contests (2, Informative)

JPM NICK (660664) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073558)

I believe the way it works is that the monetary amount of your prize gets added to your yearly income. then, you get taxed on that. So if you make 60,000 per year, and win a $40,000 car, you will then have made 100,000$ for the year. then you will lose whatever percent from your income tax bracket.

Re:Cola Contests (1)

gcaseye6677 (694805) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073577)

You're thinking of capital gains taxes, which are actually about 28%. Not quite as bad as half, but it still sucks to have to pay taxes on something that is 'free'.

Re:Cola Contests (1)

DevilM (191311) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073666)

You must have missed the part where Bush lowered the capital gains tax to 15%.

Re:Cola Contests (1)

falcon5768 (629591) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073580)

not quite, its more like the states sales tax, aka if its 6% sales tax, you get taxe 6% of 40,000.

no where do you get taxed 50%, people making over 150,000 get taxed 43% in federal income but that doesnt apply here.

Re:Cola Contests (1)

donnyspi (701349) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073525)

If I'm the 4th owner or a car and i sell it, the recipient still has to pay tax on it when they get it registered. The tax doesn't go to me, but to the state government. Laws on this vary by state.

Re:Cola Contests (2, Interesting)

DaHat (247651) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073546)

Yes, Pepsi would have already have paid tax on the vehicle it's self. That's sales tax.

The tax that the winner would pay I believe is capital gains tax. It's the same tax that kicks in if you win the lottery or win any money or anything of value for that matter.

Yes, it's double dipping but does this surprise you?

Just remember, there's tax on nearly everything in the US and the gov (either federal, state or local) get's their cut of nearly every transaction.

Re:Cola Contests (1)

WormholeFiend (674934) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073599)

In Canada we dont pay tax on the actual lottery prize, but any profit you make from it is taxable.

But I read an article recently on how Parliament is discussing the possibility of taxing lottery winnings. :-(

Re:Cola Contests (1)

DaHat (247651) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073647)

The whole tax system has always driven me nuts, I've got no problem with usage fees, but taxing nearly every unrelated aspect of life is... crazy, I often think of the old line of:

"My uncle played the lottery all his life, and finally, after 40 years he won 100 million dollars. Next thing he knows, the government comes to his door and asks for their cut to which he replied 'Why don't you buy your own lottery tickets?'"

Course taxing lottery winnings makes even less sense to me as counting a waiter/waitress's tips as part of their salary/wage. Last I checked, a gratuity is not required and is a gift for good work. Oh wait I forgot... the IRS says they can tax gifts, damn.

Re:Cola Contests (1)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073707)

The IRS cannot let any way of getting income be untaxed, because that way would quickly become known as a loophole by which an employer can pass money to their employees without it being taxed.

There are so many people out to beat the IRS's system, they've got to make sure they have all the bases covered.

Re:Cola Contests (4, Insightful)

rjstanford (69735) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073584)

There's a ton of FUD about this going around. But its necessary. Basically, the car counts as "income" so you pay income taxes on it.

If they didn't do this, then instead of companies paying you in dollars, they could just pay you in "cars" (or something smaller, like bycicles) that you could convert to dollars tax-free. So this really plugs a loophole. But you pay tax on your income, no matter what form it comes in - money, cars, vacations, etc.

The worst example I ever saw was someone who won a one-year lease on a new BMW Z3. Have you seen the price on a one year lease? They ended up paying ~$600 a month in equiv. taxes, a reasonable car payment, and they didn't even get to pick the car.

Re:Cola Contests (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9073609)


The USA has a "windfall tax". If you win more than a certain amount at the horse races they take off the government's cut right there. Canada and other civilized countries have no such tax.

Re:Cola Contests (5, Informative)

SoCalChris (573049) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073637)

I won a Honda Civic on the radio a few years ago, here in Los Angeles.

Before I could even take possesion of the car, I had to pay sales tax, title & registration - About $2,000.

In addition to that, the value of the car was added to my yaerly earnings. Honda had to report the value of the car to the IRS. They reported it as being a $21,000 Civic. Of course, fully loaded Civics can be bought for much less than that, so the IRS allows you to do a fair market adjustment, and only be taxed on what you would have paid for the car had you bought it. I was able to knock it's value down to around $15,000.

When I had to do the taxes for that year, the $15,000 added to my income because of the car put me into the next highest tax bracket, and I ended up owing just over $6,000 in income taxes since I hadn't taken out any withholding for the additional income.

I ended up selling the car to pay the taxes, but I had a pretty good, reliable car for almost a year that I put almost 40,000 miles on.

If any one is interested, here's a picture of the car I won. Blink 182 Civic [worldtel.net.pk]

Re:Cola Contests (2, Insightful)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073665)

There's two taxes going on here...

A: Pepsi pays the tax on buying the vehile.

B: The contest winner owes income tax on their winnings... even if it comes in a non-cash form they owe tax on the value of what they got.

Think of what happens when you buy a car the normal way. You pay a sales tax on the car itself, but you also have already paid income tax on the money you're going to use to pay for the car.

Yep, it's double-dipping, but that's the way the system's worked for a long time.

Re:Cola Contests (2, Interesting)

SatanicPuppy (611928) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073511)

I agree that they probably won't leave it turned on.

However it is possible that you might be able to use some sort of metal detector to find the more unsusual components...The composition has to be completely different. There might be a weight difference as well.

Hmmmm. Those wall stud detetcors have a setting for detecting electrical current. That might pick up the battery...

Heh. I'd much rather spend my time trying to find a way to find it without drinking coke, than I would actually buying coke.

Re:Cola Contests (1)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073604)

However it is possible that you might be able to use some sort of metal detector to find the more unsusual components...The composition has to be completely different. There might be a weight difference as well.

It's probably nothing more than a micro-circuit board wrapped in plastic. I sincerely doubt you'd get much of a reading on it. Similarly, it would be so light as to only add an ounce or two to the can.

Hmmmm. Those wall stud detetcors have a setting for detecting electrical current. That might pick up the battery...

I'm thinking that it doesn't get activated until you press the button. That would make it difficulty to detect the EM from the battery. Besides, the battery is probably nothing more than a hearing aid battery for one time use. I doubt it would have much EM field at all. Not to mention that the can is a natural conductor...

The real question is how it's mounted on the can. If you can figure that out, you might be able to use a sonoprobe. i.e. Tap on the right spot and see how hollow it sound. :-D

Re:Cola Contests (1)

uberdave (526529) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073621)

Easier way: Measure a full case of cans. Record the results. Any case that differs from that result will be your baby.

Re:Cola Contests (1)

AragornSonOfArathorn (454526) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073763)

Easier way: Measure a full case of cans. Record the results. Any case that differs from that result will be your baby.

They probably add weights to the phone-can to make it weigh the same as a regular 12oz can.

The solution -- it's just too simple (1)

JonTurner (178845) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073759)

Whether it's turned on or not, it should be simple to detect -- just shake the can. If there's no "sloshing" sound, it's a good candidate.

Proceed to "round 2" testing, which is as simple as using a magnet. Presumably, the contents will not consist entirely of non-ferrous metals. Using a "bondo pen" (basically, a magnet mounted to a spring-loaded gage in the form of a pen -- it's used in the auto-repair trade to detect and measure the thickness of "bondo" repairs) and place it against the can. Any deflection will indicate a "winning" can.

Re:Cola Contests (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9073792)

Presumably, they're smart enough to not turn the thing on until you pushed the button.

And presumably, they are counting on the winner not being bloody-minded enough to wait until he goes on holiday to switch it on.

Off the air... (4, Insightful)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073396)

I doubt there's going to be anything given off by this phone when it's not in use. Afterall, does a cell phone that's turned off give of any energy that can be detected?

Re:Off the air... (5, Interesting)

jamonterrell (517500) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073716)

I'm concerned less with it giving off any emissions rather than it acting differently when having emissions bounced off of it. Different electronic gadgets will alter waves that are bounced off of them in different ways, very much in the way RFIDs work. It's very likely that it can be detected, as a can full of soda would certainly respond differently than a can full of GPS/Cellphone. You could also do the same thing with a sonar-type device configured to measure the density of the material inside the can. The point is, however, it's all pointless because with the amount of coke moved out in the time period that this competition will run is inconceivable. Unless the device were screaming "I'M OVER HERE, OH YEAH, AND I'M THE WINNING COKE CAN" you aren't likely to find it even if you're in the same store as it, at the same time as it happens to be passing through.
Oh yeah, and to address the other post regarding them knowing the approximate location so they can rush out to it when they press the button. I say good luck to them with that. I'd find it very funny if the person who gets it happens to pick up a 12pack just before returning on a flight from Miama, FL, to Portland, OR. That'd mess up their plans to seem all cool by rushing out to the site of the can within 10-20 minutes with a TV crew, now woudln't it? :)

Hmmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9073400)

* Waits for obligitory comments about how Big Brother is watching you *

Re:Hmmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9073683)

pwnt, nobody is giving you modpoints.

In the can? (4, Insightful)

dleifelohcs (777508) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073403)

Aside from weight, which will obviously be different on the case that has the phone in it compared to the case that does not, WHERE is the phone being placed? Inside an empty can with a different style lid? Or is the phone can-shaped, to prevent the case from making "noises" or rattling that a normal case wouldn't make... in any case (no pun intended) the case will be different. Though I do not support cheating the game.

Re:In the can? (2, Funny)

MrIrwin (761231) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073455)

"Though I do not support cheating the game."

I do. Could you send me any more details/tips please?

Re:In the can? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9073618)

I can pretty well assure you that the weight of the special can will be the same as the others.

Re:In the can? (1)

uberdave (526529) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073676)

I can pretty much assure you that few merchants are going to let you haul in a scale and weigh their inventory.

DAMMIT (5, Funny)

Xhad (746307) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073423)

You're embedding electronic devices in soda cans now?!? You just ruined my best source of tin for my hats, Coca-Cola.

Re:DAMMIT (5, Insightful)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073518)

You just ruined my best source of tin for my hats, Coca-Cola.

Should I even tell the poor sap that cans are made of aluminum?

Re:DAMMIT (1)

Nick of NSTime (597712) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073541)

So is "tinfoil," aka aluminum foil, aka Reynolds Wrap.

Re:DAMMIT (1)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073729)

So is "tinfoil," aka aluminum foil, aka Reynolds Wrap.

Better not tell him that, either!

side note: AFAIK, foil was originally made of Tin. At some point aluminum and steel became cheaper and usage of tin declined. These days some people still call it "tin foil", but its correct name is actually "aluminum foil".

Re:DAMMIT (1)

uberdave (526529) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073757)

Aluminum<>tin? Dang! So that explains why they're still able to find me. Curse you Alcan! You're in on it, aren't you?

No Purchase Necessary? (4, Interesting)

taped2thedesk (614051) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073424)

How will the "no purchase necessary" part of this promo work? I can't see them mailing out cans to people who send in a postcard... or are companies not required to do "no purchase necessary" anymore?

Re:No Purchase Necessary? (1)

VertigoAce (257771) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073540)

I assume they would just send you a slip of paper saying whether or not you won. If you win, you then claim the prize like any other promotion.

Re:No Purchase Necessary? (4, Interesting)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073545)

The only part of "no purchase necessary" that they need to take care of is making sure that the odds of a postcard winning are the same as the odds of a 12-pack winning.

Most likely, the cans won't be the actual "game piece". Instead, they'll print up serial-numbered cards, most of which say "You Lose" and one for each car they have will say "You Win!" They'll shuffle up the cards, and then drop one into each specially marked 12-pack and keep a pile aside for the mail-in entries.

12-packs that get the winning game pieces will also get the cell phone gadget. People who end up with a winning gamepiece in their SASE will get a phone number to call to claim their prize. The key thing will be that the odds of getting a a winning piece instead of a loser has to be the same by both methods... at that point, "no purchase necessary" is taken care of.

Re:No Purchase Necessary? (1)

falcon5768 (629591) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073640)

no your right, this WILL be interesting to see, Even the iTunes music store contest involved a no purchase necessary clause, so odds are they will have to too.

In soviet russia... (-1, Offtopic)

zBoD (86938) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073425)

...soda finds YOU!

Re:In soviet russia... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9073736)

... you may be funny

Hardware Hack Time! (3, Funny)

imidazole2 (776413) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073427)

Time to hack this thing to bits! I want free phone calls, I want war-dialing, I want lots of l33t g00t13s!

next (5, Funny)

Errtu76 (776778) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073431)

Now all you'll need is that the car will include a red button that, when pressed, will send your location to Coca Cola and a person comes to deliver you a ice cold can of coke!

Did Clarence Thomas design this? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9073440)

A cell phone in a coke can? Did Clarence Thomas design this for phone sex?

And Pepsi is selling what they sell best... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9073449)

Pepsi.

I mean - what is the _idea_ behind this promotion?

Re:And Pepsi is selling what they sell best... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9073513)

you're an idiot

zzz (1, Interesting)

SparafucileMan (544171) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073453)

One of three buttons connects the winner with a company representative, who will explain that the person has won a Chevrolet Equinox SUV. Pressing a different button activates the GPS beacon, which sends the winner's location to the company...

So, for $200,000 or so, Coke gets to find out the location of every coke drinker who presses the GPS beacon button...sounds like a steal to me!

lets get to the important Slashdot question... (4, Interesting)

Ubergrendle (531719) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073463)

Do i get to keep the GPS enabled phone!?!?!?

Re:lets get to the important Slashdot question... (1)

dr_labrat (15478) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073533)

Well I think I would probably strip the can and reprogram the sim... free calls for 6 months, and then claim the car.

Re:lets get to the important Slashdot question... (1)

Enry (630) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073536)

Really. My Cell phone has "GPS" written all over it, but it has no GPS capabilities. I've really been pondering calling up Verizon Wireless and ask why they're selling products that don't have advertised features.

Re:lets get to the important Slashdot question... (1)

mekkab (133181) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073627)

While you're at it, call up the FTC. I'm sure they'd love to fine Verizon.

Re:lets get to the important Slashdot question... (1)

andyf (15400) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073671)

Dial 911, yell "Help! The GPS on my cellphone doesn't work!" and then just wait in that exact spot. If the cops come right to that spot (and subsequently arrest you) then the GPS probably works. (Though, admittedly, it could be triangulation, so make sure to pick a tough spot to find).

Andy

Re:lets get to the important Slashdot question... (1)

proj_2501 (78149) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073697)

are you sure it's not buried in a setting somewhere, or perhaps it only transmits its location when you call 911?

Flying (5, Funny)

Himring (646324) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073467)

So the big question is, will the phone give off any residual waves that will allow custom made detection equipment to find the right 12 pack

I can imagine flight attendates augmenting the usual shpill:

We ask at this time that you turn off any cell phones, laptops, PDAs and GPS-enabled soda cans....

Scanning the 12-packs (3, Interesting)

WebGangsta (717475) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073468)

I'd guess that the phones would have their batteries isolated to prevent the phones from responding to any pre-purchase scanning. Once you uncork the can, you pull a clear plastic tab out of the battery compartment to activate the phone (similar to the way all those noisy electronic toys displayed on store shelves work).

Or maybe the battery is only activated when the user holds in the Big Red Button on the front of the phone.

I can't imagine that Coca-Cola didn't think of all the ways to cheat the system after the McDonald's contest fiasco [bootysmack.com] from a few years ago.

Like Lemmings off the cliff (4, Funny)

Willeh (768540) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073475)

Take can to sandy Beach. Click, call win the SUV. Throw can into sea. Watch coke reps do a yellow submarine job out into the pacific. Call papers ahead of time watch the event.

SUV? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9073481)

a SUV? who wants a SUV? a piece of inferior engineering that is really shiny.

ATTENTION: SLASHDOT IS DEAD. (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9073493)

* If you expect companies to follow the copyright of the GPL, you should support the RIAA going after infringers of its copyright. If not, you're a hypocrite.

* There is absolutely nothing wrong with a company being upset that its product is being pirated freely over online networks. A recent Slashdot poll showed that the majority of Slashotters are unemployed or are students ("academics"), which explains a lot. Try getting a real job sometime and see what it feels like when your work is everywhere, and you start worrying that your days are numbered. Does John Carmack want you to "sample" his new game via the "free advertising" happening on eMule?

* VA Linux-owned Slashdot thinks its niche opinion represents the majority of the world. This is a result of people visiting every day and buying into the groupthink. Nobody outside of Slashdot knows or cares about "Linux," "RIAA", "M$," or anything else Slashdotters think is such a huge issue in today's society. Go to a mall or coffee shop sometime and see what people actually talk
about.

* Speaking of VA Linux--it's a Linux company...that owns a "tech news" site...that posts news stories negative toward competitors like Microsoft. If a Windows company or even Microsoft itself owned a "tech news" site and posted anti-Linux articles all the time, everyone would be up in arms. But with VA Linux, it's a-okay.

* Slashbots think people don't like the music coming out these days, which is the cause of the piracy. Never mind that if people didn't like the music they wouldn't be pirating it, most Slashbots--again, this goes back to the niche opinion thing--don't realize that most people these days love the music coming out and want to hear all of it. Probing around, you discover that Slashdot is made up of nerds and fogies who listen to things like The Who and Blind Guardian and techno--not what mainstream society enjoys.

* Any company ending in "AA" is evil. Especially if it doesn't want you distributing its works without paying for it. Somehow, this mindset is supposed to make sense.

* The inevitable result of all this is a world in which nothing can be profitable because people simply pirate free copies. Is that really what Slashbots want? OSS and free-ness in general reminds me of the hippie era of the 60s--idealistic socialism that only exists because of the surrounding capitalism around it that provides the environment for it to exist. We all know what happened to that idea.

* Linux rules the desktop, when in reality [google.com] : Windows = 91%; Mac = 4%; Linux = 1%

* At the 2004 WinHEC, Allchin demonstrated an alpha version of Longhorn that played six hi-resolution videos at the same time while playing Quake III in the background. An equivalent XP machine couldn't play more than four videos. Meanwhile, I can't even get xmms to play without skipping, and windows to drag without visual tearing! That's because KDE and GNOME are hacks to emulate a desktop on top of the crufty XFree86 architecture that people won't let die (Linux users absolutely fear change).

* Slashdot editors are abusive. We all remember The Post. It's amusing the editors never mention the issue. The worst editor is michael, who will mod you down, insult you for your post count, and post unprofessional color commentary along with the article. This is the same bizarre person who cybersquatted Censorware for years--even as Slashdot posted articles negative toward cybersquatting! Michael played it off like he was some sort of stalking victim, which made it all the more bizarre.

* The moderation system is broken. If you mod someone as "Overrated," you can't be metamodded. People abuse this all the time to gang up and knock you down into oblivion.

* If "Linux" just refers to the kernel and not the operating system, how can "FreeBSD" refer to the operating system (userland tools, standard libraries, etc.) and not just the kernel? Face it, "GNU/Linux" looks and sounds ridiculous.

* Slashdot is all about spinning truth for its agenda and posting outright falsehoods. In this article [slashdot.org] , for instance, Roblimo claims that Baystar spokesman Bob McGraith "admitted" that their "only viable asset is the potential proceeds of lawsuits against Linux users and vendors." And yet, in the very next sentence, his real words are given: "We're looking for the best return we can, and we think the focus should be on IP licensing (and enforcement)." Ignoring the outright lie RobLimo posted about what was said, Bob McGraith describes what every standard IP company does--run their business on the licensing of their valuable IP. If that isn't enough, Slashdot's own VA Linux stated in their recent 10Q filing [yahoo.com] the exact same thing: "We rely on a combination of copyright, trademark and trade-secret laws, employee and third-party nondisclosure agreements, and other arrangements to protect our proprietary rights." But hypocrisy and double-standards don't matter to an agenda-driven group like Slashdot. It's all about "whatever it takes" to discredit those on your geek blacklist.

* SCO and other companies are evil scum, manipulating stock prices and going to the extreme to be greedy. Right? Meanwhile, the SEC investigated VA Linux's IPO [com.com] for "questionable IPO practices." VA Linux owns Slashdot.

* Slashdot breathlessly reported that AMD beat Intel in CPU sales [slashdot.org] by 2% for one week (gee, whiz, what a victory). Meanwhile, it was omitted from the article that AMD only beat Intel in RETAIL desktop sales. Dell hasn't been selling AMDs [forbes.com] , and Dell, among others, does not count as retail. According to the article Intel still outsold AMD in the PC market with a 61% share. Of course this is helped by their 81% share in notebook sales a market that AMD has been unable to succeed. This is crucial because according to the article this market is the fastest growing segment of the PC market. The anti-Intel spin is amazing. But not unpredictable, because Windows and Intel go hand in hand, and therefore "Wintel" is evil. Right? Even though laptop sales account for over 50% of PC sales, and AMD has ignored that market...

* Somehow, user-ran executables are always a "New Microsoft Hole" (actual article headline). Meanwhile, LinuxSecurity [linuxsecurity.com] posts weekly security advisories for all the Linux distributions. You never, ever, EVER see any of these mentioned on Slashdot--bizarre things like arbitrary code execution via MPlayer.

* This opinion poll [opinion.com.au] shows that 56% of respondents hadn't even heard of Linux.

* Microsoft is supposed to be some sort of non-innovative rip-off artist. Meanwhile, the same people posting those comments do it through KDE with taskbars, sidepanels, start menus, similar print dialogs, and an integrated web/filesystem browser. Slashdotters--ripping people off then criticizing those who came up with the ideas in the first place.

* Linux is "ready for the desktop." This is the yearly uttering since 1998. Never mind that there is STILL no binary installation/uninstallation API for desktops, you can't come home with a printer and a CD and stick it in to get an Autoplay menu that lets you set up the driver. Somehow, Linux is just magically supposed to be ready--that is, if someone else sets it up for you and you never change or add your hardware or software and doing nothing else but check e-mail and browse the web. Conveniently, this includes grandmas, so people can post their grandma-using-Linux stories as "proof." As a recent article on Slashdot pointed out, Linux can't even run a generic soundcard that 10-year-old Windows 95 has no problem with.

* Hypocrisy is accusing Windows XP of being "riddled with spyware" without actually citing a single example, and if you run Windows Media Player, the very first thing it gives you is the privacy page allowing you to disable automatic grabbing of song titles. Meanwhile, almost every single standard Linux media player automatically grabs titles from places like freedb.com without asking you first. One OS grabs song titles and it's spyware, the other grabs song titles and nobody mentions a single thing. Hypocrisy.

* Slashdot professes to be some sort of golden defender of consumer copyright law. Few people remember that in an IRC chat, Hemos said that what DailySlash is doing was "illegal" and that they should stop.

* Corporate-owned, subscription fees, banner ads, reposts, and complete falsehoods. Remember when Slashdot was a great tech news site for nerds? Before the point of the site was to have an anti-RIAA, anti-"M$" agenda? When it was just about posting cool technology stories regardless, before VA Linux took it over?

Slashdot is dead.

Coca Cola did something similar way back when (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9073498)

Only instead of a cell phone and GPS, there was a horse and a telegraph. And instead of a SUV, there was a big sack of cocaine that they used to use in the production of the soda.

Just my luck. . . (4, Funny)

eutychus_awakes (607787) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073527)

I'd get the winning can while boarding an airplane.

(Me, opening can:) Hey - I think I won!

(Flight Attendant:) "At this time, please turn off all personal electronic devices.
Your flight crew will inform you when it is safe to use approved electronic devices in flight."


(Me:) --AARRRGGGH!

Re:Just my luck. . . (4, Funny)

Bvardi (620485) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073639)

Good thing too... I could imagine the reactions of the poor SUV drivers trying to follow the GPS signal of a can in midflight...

"Speedup damnit, that guy has to be doing a few hundred miles per hour!"

Re:Just my luck. . . (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9073679)

Press the button on the flight anyway, and smile as you imagine the poor bugger who has to try to drive your prize to keep up with your plane.... ;-)

As an alternative, why not press the button while on an adventure holiday in the Amazon rainforest...

I won a Coke prize once (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9073539)

Back in Junior High. I put my 50 cents in the machine, and out popped a slightly larger can with some red markings on it. (not a regular looking coke can.) I pulled the top off, and inside was a Coke T-Shirt and 50 cents to get another coke. Pretty cool back when I was in junior high, but I kind of wish it was an SUV.

Imagine... (1)

cheesekeeper (649923) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073548)

...a beowulf fridge pack of these!

Re:Imagine... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9073624)

Imagine... a beowulf fridge pack of these!

It may be cola, but can it run in Linus?

Stock up before that trip (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9073607)

Grab a few cases before you make that trip up Everest. Just the chance of winning and making them follow you up would make the attempt worth it.

Inductance detector, i.e. a metal detector (3, Informative)

Jtheletter (686279) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073611)

I doubt very much these phone cans will be always on, more likely when you press the button to make the call it also turns on the device so simply waiving an EMF detecting device around a coke display probably won't work.

Still, the phone inside will be conductive, and in fact have an antenna of some sort to transmit the signal. A basic metal detector should be able to distinguish between an empty aluminum can and one containing a gps phone because of the differrence in inductance. Waiving around a beach-sized metal detector might not be such a good idea but it's not too hard to build your own [google.com] hand-held unit.

Unfortunately this approach would require you to pretty much scan an entire display up close. Anyone with more knowledge of gps and cell phones have an idea of how to detect the components even when they're powered down?

Re:Inductance detector, i.e. a metal detector (2, Insightful)

loyalsonofrutgers (736778) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073714)

It doesn't matter. Being able to detect it would be like buying an extra powerball ticket: it doesn't substantially improve your chances of winning. So what if you go from having a 1 in a bazillion chance of picking the right box to a 20 or 30 in a bazillion chance? With the pepsi bottle itunes thing it was different, because you had a reasonable chance to begin with. I don't know how many SUVs they are giving away but I doubt the odds are so good that you can actually improve your lot this way.

overheard in marketing meetings worldwide.... (1)

slappyjack (196918) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073633)

"Don't you see? Its a PHONE, but... get this... wait for it...
its shaped like a CAN! "
"Brilliant!"
"We can leverage the market paradigm of trans-shifting beverage consumption and need-to-speak!"
"The Beer Can Holder Hat Demographic will eat this up!"

Marketing ASSHOLES.

I cant wait for the prize SUV to be delivered to a drunken teen party where kids are drinking off half the can and then refilling it with whatever booze that managed to steal from their parents.

Re:overheard in marketing meetings worldwide.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9073718)

I cant wait for the prize SUV to be delivered to a drunken teen party where kids are drinking off half the can and then refilling it with whatever booze that managed to steal from their parents.

Boy, you sure have a chip on your shoulder. You weren't very popular in high school, eh?

I guess this was inevitable (2, Interesting)

JohnnyComeLately (725958) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073642)

With new phones coming in a disposable form, then it was soon to follow with advertising phones. Kinda like the USB memory sticks you could get free at CES shows.

For the technical questions. I'm sure it's going to be similar to existing avenues of phone distribution. The phone is shipped with the battery seperated for safety and electrical reasons. You plug the battery in and the phone will register. The FCC and manufacturers have deemed that cell phones come on with GPS enabled. This ONLY sends the info within the cell phone's system, and if your municipality is equipped then it goes out to E911 when you place a 911 call. Even though the GPS feature is now FCC mandated, most cities can't afford the equipment. The enabling of sending GPS is a new development in the last few months. Carriers have been tossing the idea around of geographically located advertising. For example, Pizza Hut is closing and has two pizzas that someone ordered but never showed. The next two drivers who drive by get a short SMS message saying, "Pizza hut at 15th and Lincoln will sell you a Large pepperoni pizza if you stop in the next 10 minutes"

John

If you could discreetly... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9073651)

...fire a handgun into the cans, you could look through the bullet holes to find the winner.

TFM (1)

Marnoot1 (768700) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073661)

I may be mistaken, but when I follow the "Full Story" link in the article, it takes me to an FCC page with a license being granted to Momentum Worldwide in Wooloomooloo, Australia?!?

It's not real GPS but GSM location-services (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9073685)

It's a complete misnomer that the phone companies have been spewing the past year or so. It's not GPS but rather triangulation of the phone from the cell towers. It's GPS-like in that it can tell you about where you are but it's NOT GPS. GPS requires line of sight to several of the 14 GPS satellites which you wouldn't get inside a building or even in a metropolitan area with high-rise buildings all around.

I don't know about this (1)

srcosmo (73503) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073688)

... the user will push one button which will auto dial a Coke rep that will tell them they won an SUV.
I'm not sure how profitable this will be if everyone wins an SUV..
Neat idea nonetheless.

Re:I don't know about this (1)

lxt (724570) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073719)

The /. article kind of implies everyone gets a cell phone...which isn't the case :)

I think the cost of producing a cell phone for every 12 pack would bankrupt Coca Cola anyway, even without the SUVs...

Most Likely It's Shielded and Off (1)

stuffduff (681819) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073689)

So detection by remote electronic device is highly unlkikely. Now in a simpler vein, it should be detectable by weight, or x-ray. Considering that most of the actual land mass does not have coverage, they have obviously decided to 'urbanize' the experience. Hope they don't get a drug dealer in the process (although it would be funny).

GPS indoors (2, Interesting)

theMerovingian (722983) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073699)


Actually, GPS indoors is rather cutting-edge. It isn't commercially available on a large scale.

Clicky [trimble.com]

Disclaimer: Our company sells trimble gps

Cool Can (1)

pcp_ip (612017) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073703)

With my luck (and the amount I drink) this can will sit undiscovered - in a case - in my fridge for months. The electronics better be able to handle some low temperatures for long periods of time.

Nokia? (5, Informative)

earthloop (449575) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073744)

Looking at the FCC docs, and this one [fcc.gov] in particular. The is a photo of the bottom of the can. On the bottom is a label, on this is text that says "Made in Finland". What the betting that the device has been made by Nokia?

How to have fun (and see yourself on the news) (5, Funny)

IceSabre (602857) | more than 9 years ago | (#9073770)

Step 1) Give the phone to your freaky, paranoid, paramilitary and big brother suspicious neighbor. Step 2) Get some lawn chairs and a cooler. Step 3) Watch the prize delivery crew show up unannounced. Step 4) Get interviewed on the 10:00 news.
Load More Comments
Slashdot Account

Need an Account?

Forgot your password?

Don't worry, we never post anything without your permission.

Submission Text Formatting Tips

We support a small subset of HTML, namely these tags:

  • b
  • i
  • p
  • br
  • a
  • ol
  • ul
  • li
  • dl
  • dt
  • dd
  • em
  • strong
  • tt
  • blockquote
  • div
  • quote
  • ecode

"ecode" can be used for code snippets, for example:

<ecode>    while(1) { do_something(); } </ecode>
Sign up for Slashdot Newsletters
Create a Slashdot Account

Loading...