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Ignalum Linux - A Bridge to Windows?

CowboyNeal posted more than 10 years ago | from the up-and-coming-flavors dept.

Windows 365

linux slacker writes "Ignalum Linux 'is an intuitive graphical environment that works right out of the box and offers unrivaled compatibility with Microsoft Windows' or so says their website. The company is owned by four university students in Ontario, and one of their goals is to allow companies to incorporate Linux into their Windows environment, so users could still run Word, Excel and other popular Microsoft fare."

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Yes but... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9081973)

will it run Mac OS X??

Re:Yes but... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9081994)

Well, it is a Linux distro. We all know Linux users are almost as gay as Mac users, so... probably.

Re:Yes but... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9082070)

I have considerably more money,style and 'no fucking about with drivers/settings/viruses' computing power than you

Re:Yes but... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9082076)

Quit getting yer panties in a bunch, 'tard. It was just a joke. Not unless you really are homo?

Re:Yes but... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9082164)

I'm going to make you squeal like a pig.

But (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9081976)

But does it run Linux?

Or... (5, Funny)

Canberra Bob (763479) | more than 10 years ago | (#9081977)

Companies could run this alongside their Unix workstations to help in their migration to Windows.

Just a thought!

Re:Or... (5, Insightful)

WIAKywbfatw (307557) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082029)

The day that companies start worrying about needing a stepping stone to help migrate users from Unix/Linux to Windows is a day most people here will look forward to. For one thing, it will mean that the usability and ease-of-use of Unix/Linux will have surpased that of Windows.

Win4Lin (5, Informative)

datan (659165) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082094)

Personally, I use Win4Lin [netraverse.com] . It's runs windows as either a separate window or in full screen mode (think X Windows but running Windws). I sometimes like to run win4lin in full screen mode and confuse people since it's almost impossible to tell you're running it under linux until you try to do low-level stuff like configuring device drivers & network stuff. It's a really great product; but only runs Windows 98 (heard they're working on Win2K version), and doesn't do directx games. Other than that, everything works -- Microsoft Office, IE, Kazaa, chessmaster etc. I'll be happy to provide more details on request. Oh yes, I have no links to said company other than being a very satisfied customer.

Excellent product (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9081978)

I've tried out Ignoble Linux and it did everything that the box promised. The uptime is astounding, and p2p works out of the box. Thanks to the folks in Ontorio for making it!

Re:Excellent product (2, Funny)

fewnorms (630720) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082020)

You work there by any chance? :)

Re:Excellent product (2, Funny)

tehcyder (746570) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082032)

Cynic!

How about /.ing? (1)

trezor (555230) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082111)

Does Ignoble Linux withstand /.ing in any admirable manner, though? *grin*

/mirrors please

Re:How about /.ing? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9082227)

Doesn't look like it.

Re:Excellent product (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9082152)

not to mention Solitare! secretaries everywhere will endorse this

Whee! (-1, Offtopic)

darlmcbride666 (777465) | more than 10 years ago | (#9081979)

First post!

Re:Whee! (-1, Offtopic)

tehcyder (746570) | more than 10 years ago | (#9081991)

well you're only 1 away

Re:Whee! (1)

Disevidence (576586) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082081)

You need to take 1st year maths again, I think.

After 3 comes 4, not 1.

Re:Whee! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9082095)

Reading at +1 threshold, the grandparent is right. That is, until this AC [slashdot.org] was modded up.

Re:Whee! (0)

tehcyder (746570) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082098)

it looked like the 2nd post to me and 1+1=2

Ignalum Linux 9 (4, Funny)

RogueProtoKol (577894) | more than 10 years ago | (#9081983)

...what happened to 1 through to 8? :)

Re:Ignalum Linux 9 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9081987)

they were the versions based on windows ;P

Re:Ignalum Linux 9 (4, Informative)

Darth Hubris (26923) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082214)

They were Red Hat v1 through 8; this looks to be based on Red Hat 9.

true (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9081990)

SECNDO PSOT

Another one (3, Insightful)

jimicus (737525) | more than 10 years ago | (#9081992)

Does the world really need another Linux distribution? I know I'll be modded to hell for this, but why?

"Better" windows compatability still isn't 100%. And J. R. Sixpack is gonna be as confused as hell when his system which he bought which is "compatible with Windows" won't run some random program he found on a shovelware CD.

Re:Another one (5, Insightful)

tehcyder (746570) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082005)

If you look at their website, they claim to be able to run Direct X apps without modifying a single line of code. If this was true and more or less all Windows Direct X games could be run under Linux, this would be a radical breakthrough in terms of Linux for the Desktop/Average User.

Re:Another one (3, Interesting)

jimicus (737525) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082143)

Very true. But most of the JR Sixpacks I know don't just play games - they use their computer for all sorts of odd stuff.

And in many cases the knee-jerk reaction to a new requirement is "find a program to do it" rather than "use the perfectly good existing software".

So they call you to fix their computer, there's hundreds of crappy little programs on there, which may or may not have ever worked very well, and JR Sixpack's forgotten why he installed most of them in the first place. But most of them installed and ran the first time around. I simply don't see that happening with any "Windows Compatible" linux distro - much of this software is so badly written it only just runs on Windows.

Agreed, this is crazy. (5, Insightful)

RealityThreek (534082) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082018)

... not that there's another Linux distribution, but there's yet another that tries to be Windows. Every day, I care less and less if Linux becomes a mainstream OS.

You want 100% Windows compatability? Run Windows. :)

Re:Agreed, this is crazy. (2, Funny)

tehcyder (746570) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082042)

Every day, I care less and less if Linux becomes a mainstream OS.
I'm sure Bill Gates will be glad to hear it.

Re:Agreed, this is crazy. (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9082066)

dude, even windows isn't 100% compatible with windows, if it was why do you think so much effort has been put into linux??

Oh I forgot, the joys of debian install are reward enough.

Re:Another one (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9082151)

Hey, nobody asked you to use this. Although many distributions offer no more than some others, it is always nice to see involvement with and enthusiasm about Linux. Although at this point a good computer means that is is Windows compatible, this will hopefully not be the future. The future should be in open standards, and maybe sometime, Linux will be as great as anything. But for now, this is the way it is, and if you want to see the difference between a good distribution and a bad one, look at some of the mailing lists for some of them and the hours of pain people put into working with some broken setup. Anyway, I think it is pretty cool when people come out with another flavor. It can only be a good thing.

Re:Another one (1, Funny)

goatan (673464) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082161)

That's what us geeks are for to fight it out for the varoius distributions until there is only one left.

There can be only one. (exept for sean connery whos allowed to come despite having his chopped of)

uhm (4, Insightful)

Quai (188898) | more than 10 years ago | (#9081995)

If I wanted windows, i would be running windows.

Slackware is more my thingy :)

Well, I guess this will provide them with more stable computers atleast.

Ps, stop making Linux-Windows dists. and start making apps that they could use insted of windows-apps.

And btw, my english sucks.

Re:uhm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9082056)

asides from potential trolling parent is right.

If there isn't an app on linux, make the app. Don't try and make lin compatible.

We need;

more games and a unified game engine (pick either the blender3d engine or crystal space engine.... stop doubling up)

a few specialist business apps (turbo tax)

a good video editing app running on top of gstreamer

innovation and smoothness between existing apps.

Now my complaining is done, I'm going to have a nap... those programs better be there when I wake up.

Hmm... screenshots look suspicious (0, Redundant)

thesaur (681425) | more than 10 years ago | (#9081997)

They look like it's just another variety of Linux. How their compatability is better than others, I have no idea...

a platform independent os! (0, Funny)

this takes too long (761596) | more than 10 years ago | (#9081999)

i want an os that runs everything! better get to work on that

Re:a platform independent os! (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9082147)

Emacs, my friend.

Re:a platform independent os! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9082194)

Isn't emacs just a file editor - like Notepad? :P

Right... (-1, Troll)

ObviousGuy (578567) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082000)

Sounds just like every other Linux distro out there.

Which brings up an interesting question. Is emulating Windows on Linux better than emulating Unix on Windows? WINE vs. Cygwin? Sex with Mare?

Re:Right... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9082022)

Finally, ObviousGuy returns to his old trolling self! That post will be used against you in a future troll.

Gamer's answer? (4, Interesting)

Raztus (745280) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082001)

Could this possibly be the answer to gaming on Linux? As an avid gamer, the main thing that has kept me from using Linux as my primary OS is the fact that its support for the games I grew up loving is very limited. While I love the newer open source games, I'm just too attached to my old games to fully migrate to Linux...

Re:Gamer's answer? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9082059)

Check out WineX.

www.transgaming.com

It's Wine with special closed sourced tools (due to liscencing restrictions) that help to translate directX into OpenGl to run windows games in linux. It also has provisions to deal with the copyright protections in cdrom installers so that you can install your games directly into your linux home folder.

Works great for games that it works great for. It has a small database of games based on how well they work.

4 and 5 stars means that they work as well as they do in windows, pretty much.

3 stars is iffy, anything below that is worthless.

It's a paid monthly thing. With that you get to download a front end, which will download and install all the nessicary software (winex itself) to get games going. Plus you get 1 vote on what games the developers should concitrate on next and what bugs and features you want fixed or added in new releases.

5 bucks a month last time I checked.

Re:Gamer's answer? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9082114)

It's Wine with special closed sourced tools (due to liscencing restrictions) that help to translate directX into OpenGl to run windows games in linux.

So Wine is an emulator! DirectX -> OpenGL sounds that way to me.

screenshots (4, Interesting)

fewnorms (630720) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082002)

I am a bit wary of a Linux company that posts screenshots of their 'product' while being root [ignalum.com] every time. What kind of message does this send out ... "Yeah, it's ok to log in as root all the time" ?

Re:screenshots (1)

bcmm (768152) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082034)

"The thing with the other 'distros' is it takes a system administrator to set something up. We're trying to simplify things so a regular user can pretty much do everything"
That sounds like default root to me... Also, they're /.ed and the google cache won't load...

Re:screenshots (1)

fewnorms (630720) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082040)

Exactly my point. If that is the reason, it's most definatly NOT a Good Thing(tm).

Re:screenshots (2, Insightful)

RealityThreek (534082) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082038)

What kind of message does this send out ... "Yeah, it's ok to log in as root all the time" ?
Well, actually. Yes. Most people run Windows at home as a member of the Administrators group. That's precisely what they'll want to do here too. And even more than that, they'll want their password saved. (Or even, have no password) Convenience trumps security in the eyes of an average user.

after all, (3, Funny)

jtwJGuevara (749094) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082148)

they are targeting people using Windows already :)

Unfortunately (3, Interesting)

Sycraft-fu (314770) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082195)

If you want a Linux for the average user, it's going to have to be that way. Now we all know that su-ing to root is easy for when you need it, but it is something that will piss off and confound most users. You wouldn't think so, but it never ceases to amaze me the how the simplest things (froma geek perspective) can confound normal users.

This goes double for an underdog OS trying to win converts. It has to offer a user experience at least as good, and probably better. Carrying on about OSS, configurability and monopolies means jack to most users. They want it to be as easy as what they have now.

So to do that a Linux distro needs to either be root all the time, or break away from the traditonal UNIX security model and offer something like Windows NT's Administrator accounts that, while not all powerful, are capable of doing just about anything.

This is just the reality of the average individual. I mean, why do you think the government mandidated passive safety restraints in cars? Because LOTS of people don't wear seatbelts. It's not like it's hard to do, takes you 2 seconds to put on. However, I know lots of people that don't unless reminded and even them often don't.

Extra steps that are different from what they have now (like having to su) are the things that will turn them away. IT'll only take a few things before they whine and say "I hate this, give me Windows back".

Re:screenshots (1)

Domini (103836) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082209)

This is the new day and age where everyone can own a Unix machine and even people who don't have a clue can be a root user.

Live with it, dammit!

This is a distro for people who won''t even be opening a shell... ever!

It's like saying my phone/pda runs linux, but not as root, fortunately! (Really, who cares!) :)

Plus 2, Tro,ll) (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9082003)

Fu@ck The Baby Anyone that thinks Baby take my

good, but.... (5, Insightful)

KrisCowboy (776288) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082008)

Well, being able to run word and powerpoint sounds great..but 2.4.20 and KDE 3.1 with an old mozilla doesn't sound quite great. Looks like this distro's gonna need lot of upgrade

Slashdotted already (5, Informative)

jimicus (737525) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082014)

after less than a dozen comments. Google cache: http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:UpTSilLJE-MJ:ww w.ignalum.com/+ignalum+linux&hl=en Proudly karma whoring since 2003.

Re:Slashdotted already (2, Funny)

A Boy and His Blob (772370) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082054)

"We have 98 guests and 0 members online"
Seeing that a minute or so after the article was posted I knew they were screwed.

Re:Slashdotted already (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9082069)

WEM (Windows emulation mode)

This is a first. (1)

amitofu (705703) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082086)

Even Google's Cache [66.102.7.104] is slashdotted. Can no web server survive the wrath of Slashdot?

Re:This is a first. (1)

falonaj (615782) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082159)

Even Google's Cache is slashdotted. Can no web server survive the wrath of Slashdot?

Try www.google.com/search?q=cache:www.ignalum.com [google.com] - this is working just fine.

Re:Slashdotted already (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9082106)

Ok, if you're going to karma whore, would you at least have the decency to use a real link. How hard hard is it [youreakarmawhore.com] really?

Re:Slashdotted already (1)

lawrencekhoo (108310) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082122)

I wouuldn't have believed it, but I think we've slashdotted google.
I'm getting no response on
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:UpTSilLJE -MJ: www.ignalum.com/

Re:Slashdotted already (3, Funny)

jtwJGuevara (749094) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082140)

"Problem in Database Connection"

I can already tell this distribution isn't heading in the right direction. Their webserver isn't capable of handling a good 'ol slashdotting. Their inability to meet this mandatory prerequisite of having a linux distribution is startling and does not bode well at all.

I have this terrible feeling of Deja Vu... (5, Insightful)

bcmm (768152) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082015)

Wasn't Lindows going to provide near 100% compatiblity with windows?

Haven't there been endless attempts at windows-compatible linux distros?

Does it also run Sasser? (4, Funny)

Advocadus Diaboli (323784) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082016)

If its really compatible it should be able to run also all those nice programs that are installed over the net automagically. :-)

OS/2 (5, Interesting)

Ent (88363) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082017)


So wasn't this same thing tried with OS/2? Better multitasking and the ability to run Win32 apps just as if you were on Windows? Only the apps never worked as well as they did on Windows and while some things were better - it was basically just a waste of time. I think there are enough Office Like apps that copy Office enough for usability, the focus should be on interop with file formats - I see that as what is really holding adoption back.

Re:OS/2 (1)

byolinux (535260) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082168)

Wasn't it Win16 apps? I know there were people working on a Win32 emulation, but I'm not sure how well that ever worked.

Also, didn't IBM license Windows from Microsoft for this? I seem to recall "OS/2 for Windows" or some such product.

Bottom line. (4, Interesting)

Willeh (768540) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082019)

Will these guys be able to offer a valid alternative to the Linspire/ Lindows trainwreck? And will they not get crushed by the 800 pound gorilla that is the MS legal department? (I'm sure they're going after these guys, and 4 college students don't exactly sound like they have a lot of assets). Let's hope they survive, choice is good for us all.

Wine/Codeweavers Crossover? (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9082023)

Everything they claim is perfectly able to be done with existing sudo-emulators.

For instance with Suse when you buy a retail version you get a liscence for Codeweaver's crossover stuff.

You can then run Office 2000, IE 6.0, Quicktime, Quicken and other applications.

So if you do want to run Linux but will not because it doesn't have support from your favorite windows apps, then there are options.

Almost any distro can be made to work. But I suppose it would be convenient to have one that was designed specificly to work with Windows apps right out of the box.

Re:Wine/Codeweavers Crossover? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9082142)

Ooops, that is crossover is aviable for Suse DESKTOP versions.

The Business version, not included by default with the home version (Suse 9.1), I am pretty sure.

See here:
http://www.suse.com/us/business/products/sl d/index .html

YOU MAY BE A LINUX NERD IF... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9082206)

...you think "pseudo" is spelled "sudo".

Re:YOU MAY BE A LINUX NERD IF... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9082234)

OR I could just be a realy bad speller.

Wine and WineX? (1)

levell (538346) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082026)

Presumably this is done using Wine? Their home page is slash-dotted so I can't check. This page [sourceforge.net] mentions DirectX so maybe they have some deal with TransGaming and are using WineX?

Deja vu (2, Insightful)

Lurker McLurker (730170) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082028)

Didn't Lindows (as they were known then) try to do this then fail miserably? It's not as if this is the first distro to try running Microsoft applications. And what happens when the next version of Office, designed specifically not to work on wine, comes out?

Sounds okay to me (2, Interesting)

Satan's Hand Puppet (776210) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082031)

Seems like a good idea to me. In making Linux apps run on Windows, it takes the battle to Microsoft's camp and gains exposure.

A bridge to windows??? (1)

bcmm (768152) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082039)

Surely a bridge from windows?

Sorry, all bridges have been burned.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9082048)

..hmm, though I do wonder where the trolls will hang out ?!

Re:Sorry, all bridges have been burned.. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9082067)

At the Gay Nigger Association of America compound, of course!

Current google cache link doesn't seem to work (3, Informative)

pcmanjon (735165) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082043)

Current google cash posted above doesn't seem to work -- try this one instead people

http://66.102.9.104/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe =U TF-8&q=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.ignalum.com%2F&btn G=Search

Questions to pose: (4, Interesting)

CdBee (742846) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082050)

1) Is Ignalum a source distribution, built from LFs, or an enhanced version of an existing distribution?

2)Are exe files associated with WINE so Windows installers just work

3)Kernel version?

4)Obviously KDE 3.x from the s/shot linked above, but is it a full or stripped-down version?

5)Are they using a Windows driver wrapper to allow win32 device drivers to function as well?

Re:Questions to pose: (3, Insightful)

CdBee (742846) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082065)

I've been a prat.. that isn't KDE. I'm going outside to shoot myself now.

Re:Questions to pose: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9082110)

That's OK, you can shoot yourself inside if you want.

Re:Questions to pose: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9082130)

Don't take it so seriously; this is only a web forum. No need to shoot yourself. Autoerotic asphyxiation, on the other hand...

Re:Questions to pose: (1)

Lurker McLurker (730170) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082178)

It's Fedora based, according to their website. The latest version mentioned in the Google cache is called Ignalum Linux 9, (presumably based on Red Hat 9?), with a Fedora-based version mentioned as being available in late May.

Winning the battle (5, Insightful)

pubjames (468013) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082051)


In many companies, a much easier battle is to get the company to move, say, for Microsoft Outlook to Thunderbird, or IE to Mozilla. Also of course MS Office to OpenOffice. I think this is a much better battle to try to fight than trying to get the whole desktop moved to Linux. Once the company has moved the desktop applications over to open source ones, then it is time to move to Linux.

Trying to get companies to move to Linux by moving MS Office to Linux is nuts.

Re:Winning the battle (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9082080)

Not realy.

Many employees have developed technics to deal with MS Office and other apps that they use very successfully and would be resentfull to any new programs. By doing this employers can still allow employees the option of using some of their favorite windows applications, but get the benefits of using a stable and secure OS.

Also plenty of applications don't have counterparts in the Linux land. Speciality programs that are custom developed to deal with company-specific issues can be especially troublesome and expensive to deal with.

Obviously its best to use OSS programs in Linux, they work much better then Windows programs in Linux, or even Windows programs in Windows.

But if you can get the major part of the transition over to linux with the minimum of fuss that can be a very good thing.

And the next time MS wants to make another sweeping liscencing sceme to milk it's customers for more money to keep the stock holders happy, then companies using these cross over tools can finally ween themselves completely from MS-based software forever with out pulling their hair out.

Value (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9082126)

It seems like hype, sales speak that promotes the product as any other linux to the windows market. nothing revolutionary.

so whats it to those that oppose the msft monopoly? well as stated its nothing revolutionary so its not a killer, but it is of value as its another local effort to promote linux siding many others.

Trying to get companies to move to Linux by Moving MS Office to Linux isn't nuts, but in itself its a lost crusade as if people care about their application they wouldn't go for the 2nd best platform for that application.

But again its another local/niche effort that can win a few since some that just need ms office for a few tasks may not need windows.

Free Spirit

Re:Winning the battle (3, Insightful)

Albanach (527650) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082169)

In many companies, a much easier battle is to get the company to move, say, for Microsoft Outlook to Thunderbird

FOr small companies that use Outlook only as an email client perhaps. Thunderbird is no substitute for Outlook when you start talking about company wide contacts sharing, resource scheduling, shared calendars, meeting invites, voting buttons and all the other things organisations are used to using on a day to day basis.

You might argue that an email client isn't the place for such features but no-one's going to drop their client that offers them in favour of Thunderbird when no other app is available to offer the missing feature set.

Like it or loath it, until there's a real Outlook replacement linux lacks the groupware companies are used to and desktop adoption will be restricted.

Re:Winning the battle (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9082199)

Evolution is the Outlook killer. If only...

I'd try them out... (1)

rhythmx (744978) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082061)

...but their site seems to have been /.'ed with record speed.
I would greatly prefer to run 100% linux, but I have VMWare installed just to run photoshop and access the occasional website that has gets trashed without the worlds most standand non-standards-complient browser.

grr. (5, Insightful)

SinaSa (709393) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082068)

It's projects like this that really piss me off.

Sure, the goal of the project is very admirable. More compatibility, no matter where (as long as it isn't breaking things) is a good thing.

But why didn't these uni students spend their time helping the projects that are already there. Now, we have an extra project, using existing tools (presumably hacked to be better), and now the existing tools have to find out what hacks were used to make their improvement.

These guys have put themselves an unwanted middleman in the compatibility/innovation process, and it annoys the hell out of me.

Re:grr. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9082112)

Linux/open source is all about choice. Until you make a choice that isn't the 'officially' geek excepted one, anyway. If they wanna do what they are doing thats up to them. If you don't like it don't use their distro and shut the hell up.

Re:grr. (4, Insightful)

TheClarkey (546286) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082133)

If you'd read the website you would have seen that the goal of the project is to allow the University to showcase the talents of its students and staff.

What many people forget is that there are a whole lot of people coming out with degrees in comp sci and se, you have to make yourself stand out from the pack. This is a great way for them to do it.

I doubt this initiative is about trying to make any money from linux, its about making students more employable after they graduate.

Re:grr. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9082139)

If the Ignalum Linux project is superior, then obviously it's the "projects that are already there" that are the "extra projects" and it's their developers who should "spend their time helping the" Ignalum Linux project.

Nuked as usual (3, Funny)

po8 (187055) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082100)

"...or so says their website."

Uh, no. Their website doesn't say anything anymore. Indeed, it's apparently powered by something called "PostNuke".

/. --- because the net needed a gratuitous Heisenberg effect.

Re:Nuked as usual (1)

BenjyD (316700) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082121)

From the article:Right now, Ignalum Linux is being subjected to a last round of testing.


I'd say it failed the web server load test, for one.


Screenshots (3, Interesting)

ensignyu (417022) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082104)

The screenshots look incredibly ordinary. No emulated Windows programs, or even anything that looks remarkably different from Fedora Core. It doesn't look that much easier to use either.

We'll see how useful it really is when the reviews come out.

Support? (4, Insightful)

ObviousGuy (578567) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082137)

The company is 4 guys who cobbled together a distro out of existing parts.

They can't even keep their webserver up. What would make anyone think that this support for this new splinter distro will be sustained for any period of time?

On another note (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9082180)

I like the microsoft ads at the top of the slashdot page.

What is the world coming to?

Next thing you know Virus Scanners will allow certain virii made buy paying customers... oh wait that already happens.

go /. (0)

evil9000 (72113) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082188)

muahaha, we slashdotted their main home page, now noone will be able to use their linux distribution :)

http 404/403 error (5, Insightful)

themusicgod1 (241799) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082202)

In the meanwhile, I wonder how "Free" this distro is. Is it merely a hack-together-proof-of-concept or hack-together-lets-do-some-cool-stuff or is it more of a serious-linux-distro-that-we-can-distribute-under- the-terms-of-the-GPL-or-LGPL?

I've been wanting to use windows for awhile, but despite shitty software the main reasons are all legal -- I don't want to give microsoft any money, or agree to anything that I havn't read and agree with(namelessly any shrinkwrap EULA). the GPL I have read many times and agree not only with it as a 'oh...kay...fine whatever.' but as honestly agreeing with it in spirit.
If it's not Free that's fine with me, I still like to see progress in the direction of windows...but...I'll be particularily interested if it is, in fact I'll likely devote a computer or two to it in the future ;)

What? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9082207)

So, there is more besides Linux? What is this thing, called Windows?

An appropriate stepping stone? (2, Insightful)

MegaT (672432) | more than 10 years ago | (#9082223)

I'm not sure this makes an appropriate stepping stone. What comes under the umbrella of 'Popular Microsoft Fare' which isn't already provided by OO.org in an almost identical fashion to the Microsoft applications?
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