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190 comments

Fucking Nazis (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094496)

Trying to revive the Reich by destroying Patriotic American Technology. All of Germany should be held responsible for the actions of these individuals.

FUCKING JEW RATS (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094581)

Hope to finish the job soon, you vile sons of bitches. 88 !

Re:FUCKING JEW RATS (-1, Flamebait)

anonymous cowfart (576665) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094712)

If someone uses the word virii (or any variation) in the comments, I swear I will hunt them down and bite off their balls. The plural of virus is viruses.

(This does not apply to the comedians replying to this message just to use the word virii.)

Re:FUCKING JEW RATS (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094742)

While we're being grammatical national-socialists, shouldn't we write: 'I swear I will hunt him or her down and bite off his or her balls.'?

And then we shall take a step back and admire our newly-castrate female co-worker.

Re:FUCKING JEW RATS (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094866)

Depends whether you use english plural or latin. Virii appears in alchemy medieval works (written in Medieval Latin) as plural for virus.

An example is "De virii et venenis". A venenum is a toxic substance proven to be fatal. A virus is a toxic substance not yet proven fatal.

Conversely, in classic latin virus was only used - at least in what has been recovered so far - in its singular form but no one can say "virii" is non existing. It would be like someone in the future saying "dude" never existed in English as a word because Fitzgerald, Hemingway, etc, never used it in their works.

The Jews should RULE THE WORLD (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094728)

Jehovah said so.

In the Bible.

Read it.

God always uses the Jews to KICK ASS. The Old Testament tells you how often God wanted the Jews to kill everyone who didn't worship HIM.

Look at what the Jews are doing in Israel! God wants them to kill everyone who is not a Jew.
God is on our side, because we always KILL better than anyone else. Don't stand in our way, you assholes.

Convert before it is too late, goyim.

Our God loves us, and us only. He tells us how to make war. He ain't no sissy god of love or compassion, or bleedingheartliberal forgiveness! FUCK THAT SHIT.

Become a Jew, or you will DIE, you filthy, dirty stupid pig eaters and camel fuckers!

b>JEWS RULE!

Re:The Jews should RULE THE WORLD (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094762)

I hope filthy Sharon does complete their protection wall. We'll just need some water afterwards, or finish 'em Warsaw Style.

Remember the camps ! White Pride ! 88 !

Appearances deceive! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094844)

It might appear that Sharon's policies have resulted in Israel's having to hide behind a wall in defeat. It might have resulted in Israel being an outcast among nations, morally and ethically bankrupt.

But we really don't care, porky-lovers.

In reality: the industrial, military and financial power of the USA is under complete control of Israel.

Here's the big secret: George Bush Sr., was and still is, under the control of the Mossad. His son is a mere puppet, with all the men surrounding him being from the same situation as Bush Sr.

Open you eyes, and see it.

CHECKMATE!

Jews already RULE

Re:Appearances deceive! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094898)

One of the last steps in the New American Century initiative is to get out of Israel to appease Arabs. Jews are on the wrong side now, you greedy bastards will just have to shut it for good.

Power to the White Working class worldwide ! Let's finish the Jews ! 88 !

Germany is Busy! (3, Insightful)

mfh (56) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094497)

Germany is really cracking down today! Either that, or perhaps the Sasser writer gave up the Phatbot author? I'm guessing that one arrest lead to the other, considering Phatbot [symantec.com] is a Sasser [symantec.com] derivative.

Re:Germany is Busy! (-1, Offtopic)

(TiC)ShAdGhOsT (740092) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094504)

hi i wanted to post and c how many negitave points i get

Re:Germany is Busy! (0, Offtopic)

Jane_Dozey (759010) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094530)

I'd give you 3 positive points for a good try and 3 negative points for being unoriginal.
Also, -1 for being offtopic, but we're both guilty of that one.

Re:Germany is Busy! (4, Informative)

Florian Weimer (88405) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094586)

No, Phatbot (or Agobot, which seems to be the more correct name) is NOT a Sasser derivative. Recent Agobot version were extended for attacking Microsoft Windows machines using the same LSASS defect, but this doesn't make Agobot make a derivative of Sasser.

Phatbot is not a derivative of Sasser (4, Informative)

httptech (5553) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094606)

considering Phatbot is a Sasser derivative

Who told you that? I've analyzed both, and there is no relation between them at all in terms of code. The source code to Phatbot is public, and the compiled binary is around 250-300K as opposed to Sasser's 15K. Maybe you're thinking about Phatbot being a derivative of Agobot.

My writeups of both can be found here:
http://www.lurhq.com/phatbot.html [lurhq.com]
http://www.lurhq.com/sasser.html [lurhq.com]

YOU ARE WANTED BY GERMAN POLICE! (1)

urbieta (212354) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094751)

or the riaa? anyways next time I pucblish a paper Ill make sure NOBODY is able to trace it back to me :)

So what is illegal about it? (3, Insightful)

hanssprudel (323035) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094791)


From reading your description, it doesn't seem like Phatbot is a worm at all, but rather a trojan worse / remote administration tool. If all the guy did was write a trojan horse, and there is no evidence that he himself has been using it on other peoples machines, then he should not be under arrest. Source code is speech, right?

Bets are, that on The New Slashdot (tm) - you know, the one where stories about DMCA attacks are full of attacks against the coders rather than the company (Apple!) - this story will be full of people commending a the arrest of this guy for nothing other than writing software...

Re:Germany is Busy! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094664)

He violates computers with his phatbot, now he gets violated with a phatcock.

Re:Germany is Busy! (1)

henni16 (586412) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094769)

I don't know about the connection;reading the articles on heise:

(- AFAIK Phatbot uses Sasser backdoors as one of many spreading options and is not a real derivative)

- according to German police the phatbot author was one of four people they were investigating because of hints they got from "US authorities"

- the Sasser author was caught because of a phone call of (someone close to the author) to Microsoft:
the caller was claiming to know the Sasser-author and offered some code snippets as "proof";
then Microsoft contacted the authorities

- both have been arrested yesterday evening, so there was not much time between the arrests

- the arrests and investigations in both cases were made by different LKAs ("county police departments": Niedersachsen (Sasser) and Baden Wuerttemberg(Phatbot)

- it was said by LKA Baden Wuerttemberg that there were no direct links known between both suspects, but both LKAs announced a close cooperation in further investigations

Hah (5, Funny)

Bishop, Martin (695163) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094509)

In other news, German Authorities claim they have caught the moth that got caught in the Mark II. News at 11.

Re:Hah (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094557)

Amidst the Phatbot author's personal effects, they found the dismembered Beagle Mars rover...

When asked about the arrest (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094512)

Police Sgt. Schultz said "I know NOTHING! NOTHING!!"

Re:When asked about the arrest (1, Troll)

whiteranger99x (235024) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094572)

To which the reporter said "Oh yeah? Vee have vays of making you talk!"

Re:When asked about the arrest (1)

Eggz Factor (455382) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094806)

most of which you will not like....

"put that freakin sandwich down!"

Rolled over (0, Redundant)

doormat (63648) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094514)

I bet the sasser author rolled over on the phatbot author.

In other words (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094552)

Got 'em as a result of interrogation. Just like Saddam.

ummm (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094520)

eighth post?

Justice (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094521)

Alright, lets get him into the Iraqi prison system!

Quick!

In this guy's defense (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094704)

If Saddam Hussein or the 9/11 terrorists had written this worm, there would have been no accountability for it whatsoever.

Blah blah (5, Interesting)

Leffe (686621) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094531)

I must say that I find it very interesting that people are able to spread worms this fast nowadays. Back in the day it took weeks or months to see something, and most people had already patched the worms by then, but now it's crazy, a worm can propagate to the entire world in a day! Even faster than DNS :D Maybe something for the BIND [isc.org] developers to consider?

Re:Blah blah (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094622)

I must say that I find it very interesting that people are able to spread worms this fast nowadays.

By the year 2015, all lawyers will be abolished [imdb.com] . So the justice system will move quite swiftly as well.

Re:Blah blah (1)

fhic (214533) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094657)

Yeah, I remember when we had to find a box, mail the deck of cards to the next guy, find an address of that guy at UICU to mail the last deck to....

Re:Blah blah (0, Funny)

pipingguy (566974) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094677)


Back in the day...

Which specific day was that again?

Re:Blah blah (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094754)

Hello? The Morris Unix worm took out the entire internet within a couple days.

Re:Blah blah (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094955)

Didn't the Morris worm spread quickly ?

Er, did this really need a new news item? (1)

MikeHunt69 (695265) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094536)

This info [slashdot.org] was mentioned in the referenced slashdot story. [slashdot.org]

Freaky... (5, Interesting)

robslimo (587196) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094539)

I just heard this news on NPR and thought I'd submit it to /. but I was scooped. NPR said that he was a "student" and lived with his parents. They said he admitted to being the Sasser worm author but failed to mention the Phatbot connection.

Here's [reuters.com] an English language report that mentions a Microsoft connection.

Re:Freaky... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094599)


[from the Reuters link]: Federau said the man, who he described as a highly intelligent "computer freak" living with his parents

hahaha! that's 95% of slashdot!

Re:Freaky... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094921)

No, it said intelligent.

Re:Freaky... (4, Informative)

Vlad_the_Inhaler (32958) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094625)

According to the article, there *is* no connection between the two. Phatbot was developed from Agobot.

US Authorities aparently provided the tip-offs in catching both authors.

Re:Freaky... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094718)

"...he was a "student" and lived with his parents."

I bet the profilers never expected THAT kind of character would release a virus.

On a different note: is anyone interested in joining the Angry Loner's Rifle Association? Our motto: "Be a quiet man, and keep to yourself".

he is also responsible for netsky (2, Informative)

pinky99 (741036) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094546)

say some sources (www.heise.de).
this is subject to a press conference to be held tomorrow.

well that`s somehow impressive, which should not mean admirable ...

Re:he is also responsible for netsky (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094589)

The Sasser author is allegedly also responsible for the Netsky worm. The Phatbot (and Agobot) author(s) are not.

Re:he is also responsible for netsky (3, Informative)

JPriest (547211) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094720)

Can't you people get anything right? The Sasser author allegedly did Netsky.

Okay Now (0)

jchawk (127686) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094550)

Now let's take them both out into the street and tar and feather them... :-)

Re:Okay Now (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094602)

Don't you mean tar and gzip them? :)

Re:Okay Now (1)

darkonc (47285) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094896)

I think that some people would rather use shred(1) [ed.ac.uk] .

Put the... (4, Funny)

Phidoux (705500) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094555)

... phatbot author in a phat jail cell behind some phatbars, and that's only because he doesn't know how to spell FAT!

Re:Put the... (3, Funny)

Mononoke (88668) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094645)

Says Phidoux:
... phatbot author in a phat jail cell behind some phatbars, and that's only because he doesn't know how to spell FAT!
Interesting, coming from someone who apparently can't spell Fido.

^_^

Re:Put the... (1)

TheFairElf (669537) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094648)

This from someone who can't spell Fodo j/k

Re:Put the... (1)

squeedelyspooch (673620) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094690)

Phat is a word. It was added to the dictionary sometime during the 90's.

Your vocabulary is out of date...

Re:Put the... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094719)

The "Phat" in "Phatbot" is short for "Pee Hat," so you see, it's possible that he does know how to spell "fat."

Re:Put the... (1)

daishin (753851) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094752)

Perhaps taking something phat up the...?

Re:Put the... (1)

Cruciform (42896) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094764)

Who's going to play Colonel Klink?

Got Evil? (3, Insightful)

grub (11606) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094567)


I'm still waiting for the day that one of these things wipes out the infected host after X hours/days. Ebola spreads fast and kills the host, why not a virus/worm?

I'll laugh when it happens.

Re:Got Evil? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094792)

Actually, the ebola virus wasn't quite that bad:

http://www.google.com.au/search?q=cache:GHkjYt3y hB kJ:securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/aut o/index/indexE.html++%22ebola%22+site:symantec.com &hl=en&ie=UTF-8

But you have an interesting point: real viruses actually kill some (or sometimes, most) victims, those left alive having some immunity or just a naturally stronger constitution; the species improves. The same can't be said for computer viruses (ugly term, sorry), since the same machines are simply disinfected or re-installed, and just go on as before; I suppose the Chernobyl virus was an exception.

Unfortunately, there is no mechanism that prevents people going out and buying operating systems that have little or no inherent immunity, nor is there a mechanism allowing diversity within a family of closed source operating system. Hmm, maybe I just advocated OSS...

Re:Got Evil? (1)

SpectreGadget (465507) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094796)

Unless it's your *nix box that's been wiped out. Just because Windows is the most wide-spread os, doesn't mean it couldn't happen to yours. Will you be laughing then?

Re:Got Evil? (2, Insightful)

grub (11606) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094865)


I never said it couldn't happen to me (in fact I'm writing this on my Win2K game box). Any system has holes but once wide spread carnage hits the Windows world only then will Ma & Pa Kettle give a serious look at other more robust systems with less holes. I don't support Windows for family & friends and rarely have to touch it at work so I really don't care. I think it's tantamount to having to smack a dog on the nose with a rolled up newspaper to train it not to keep shitting on the carpet.

Re:Got Evil? (2, Interesting)

ckuijjer (112385) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094803)

I always thought Ebola didn't spread really good because of it killing the host too quick. Maybe an analogy holds for computer viruses.

Re:Got Evil? (1)

(H)elix1 (231155) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094804)

Happened to me a last month.... The critter that leveraged a weakness in a couple software firewalls would destroy random bits of disk. By the time I realized what had happened, my /WINNT/SYSTEM directory was pretty much hosed. Lets just say a reboot did not fix things.

Agreed, however... Just a matter of time before someone sticks a destructive payload on a more common exploit.

Re:Got Evil? (2, Interesting)

ites (600337) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094945)

There is an analysis of this by HeironymousCoward [slashdot.org] . Basically a 'hot' virus like Ebola destroys its hosts too quickly for it to spread. So viruses tend to become 'cooler' over time. The loophole for computer viruses is that a wide-spread cool virus can become a vector for a new hot virus. So while one single virus is unlikely to do significant damage, a series of viruses could do very great damage. And you probably will not laugh when it happens.

what's up with these guys? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094583)

are they hacking from home or something? why aren't they using unsecured wifi or similar injection points?
btw, it's trivial to get a system where you can change your ethernet MAC address and anything else that might be recorded
not bragging about your exploits and working alone would help too, but that's a different matter altogether

Phatbot capabilities (4, Interesting)

FooBarWidget (556006) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094584)

Phatbot is insanely well-written. A while ago I read a web page about what Phatbot can do:
- Exploits all kinds of vulnerabilities.
- Sniffs network traffic for usernames and password.
- Steal IRC operator passwords.
- Can kill many other viruses and anti-virus software.
- Can steal CD keys for popular games.
- Can steal AOL passwords.
- Can harvest emails for spam purposes.
- And more.
Whomever made Phatbot sure spent *a lot* of work into it.

More details at: http://www.lurhq.com/phatbot.html [lurhq.com]
Also contains instructions to manually remove it from an infected system.

Re:Phatbot capabilities (4, Insightful)

glpierce (731733) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094605)

Isn't it also possible that they just strung together code from a bunch of worms which did each of those things independently?

Re:Phatbot capabilities (1)

WilyCoder (736280) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094614)

Its pretty simple to Cut and Paste....

Re:Phatbot capabilities (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094676)

Yet another fine example of creature feap.

Re:Phatbot capabilities (2, Insightful)

mcrbids (148650) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094698)

Phatbot is insanely well-written. A while ago I read a web page about what Phatbot can do:

Well written != capable. It's perfectly possible that this is just a bunch of exploits strung together, but that doesn't necessarily make it cohesive or "well written"..

My $0.02 - well written or not, it's a nasty bugger.

-Ben

Re:Phatbot capabilities (2, Informative)

Florian Weimer (88405) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094812)

More details at: http://www.lurhq.com/phatbot.html

Note that Phatbot, as described on the page above, is mostly a failed experiment. That version uses WASTE to create the botnet, which is far less scalable than IRC. WASTE simply wasn't designed for the large number of clients typically in a single botnet.

Apart from that, Agobot/Phatbot/Gaobot (or what's it called today) is fairly nasty. Some early reports from March quote numbers which suggest that between one and two million hosts have been compromised, and the bot still very active.

Real Justice (5, Funny)

gizmonic (302697) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094601)

If convicted, they should force him to work end user tech support during his jailtime. Of course, I'm sure some treaty out there would deem that cruel and unusual punishment and recommend execution as a more humane alternative. :)

Re:Real Justice (2, Insightful)

Mudcathi (584851) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094683)

"If convicted, they should force him to work end user tech support during his jailtime."

Yeah right! Convict tech support: I think we can help you with that problem, Mr. Customer, but first we'll need your user ID, password, and a valid credit card..."

Re:Real Justice (1)

linzeal (197905) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094722)

I'll work end user support, pick me! I need a job in this damn small town doing somethign tech or I'll be some retail floor sales droid this summer.

Aren't they... (3, Funny)

Kjella (173770) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094850)

...one and the same? Though I suppose it takes a little longer for the brain cells to die during tech support...

Kjella

Send those twits to the US.... (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094620)

so that they can find out what "exploiting a backdoor" is all about.

English link (2)

azav (469988) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094627)

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/arch ive/2004/05/08/international1226EDT0513.DTL

Re:English link (1)

Bishop, Martin (695163) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094691)

The link doesn't work

Re:English link (1)

azav (469988) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094781)

Yoikes. Sorry about that.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/ar ch ive/2004/05/08/international1226EDT0513.DTL

Just tested this one.

Re:English link (1)

azav (469988) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094798)

CRAP! When I post the link to slashdot, a space is inserted in the URL. Remove the space and the link is fine.

Assuming he is the right one (II) (1)

drgonzo59 (747139) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094651)

Sorry, no sympathy for this guy either...

Previous Post [slashdot.org]

tipped by Microsoft Reward programm ? (2, Informative)

S3D (745318) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094658)

In google news: HANOVER, Germany (Reuters) - A tip from reward-seekers and information from Microsoft led to the arrest of an 18-year-old suspected of creating the "Sasser" computer worm, German police and the software giant said on Saturday. Spokesman Frank Federau for Lower Saxony police said police were certain they had the man behind one of the Internet's most costly outbreaks of sabotage. "We are absolutely certain that this really is the creator of the Internet worm because Microsoft experts were involved in the inquiry and confirmed our suspicions and because the suspect admitted to it," he said in an interview with Reuters Television. It was the lure of cash that proved the man's undoing. A group of individuals from Lower Saxony approached Microsoft (MSFT.O: Quote, Profile, Research) on Wednesday inquiring about reward money should they turn in the man. The U.S. software giant in the past has put bounties of up to $250,000 on the heads of other notorious virus writers. Microsoft general consul Brad Smith told reporters the company agreed to pay the informants if there is a conviction. "They did not stumble upon him through technical analysis. They were aware of who he was," Smith said, declining to elaborate on their relationship to the suspect and saying only the number of informants was less than five. The economic toll of Sasser may never be known, but it claimed some big scalps, including Germany's Deutsche Post (DPWGn.DE: Quote, Profile, Research) , Britain's coastguard stations and investment bank Goldman Sachs (GS.N: Quote, Profile, Research) . "COMPUTER FREAK" Federau said the man, who he described as a highly intelligent "computer freak" living with his parents, was arrested on Friday near the central German town of Rotenburg but was no longer in custody. Authorities and Microsoft said they suspect the man created all the versions of Sasser, adding he worked alone He is also believed to be a main person, if not the mastermind, behind the Netsky viruses that have been plaguing Internet users since February, Smith said. All the man's computers were confiscated by police, Federau said. Since appearing one week ago, Sasser has wreaked havoc on personal computers running on the ubiquitous Microsoft Windows 2000, NT and XP operating systems, but is expected to slow down as computer users download anti-virus patches. The computing underground responsible for hatching worms and viruses has proved a difficult ring to crack for law enforcement and security experts were surprised at the rapid arrest. (Additional reporting by Bernhard Warner in London and James Mackenzie in Hanover) © Reuters 2004. All Rights Reserved.

And people in germany are allways complaining (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094659)

about this country falling behind when it comes to technology. Rejoice, it doesnt seem to be that bad after all.

Umlauts not required (2, Funny)

pipingguy (566974) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094662)


When asked for a comment, one German prosecution authority said:

Ich bein ein kickinassenviruswriter.

Re:Umlauts not required (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094748)

Nah, he said "Ich bin ein phat Berliner"

Manual Translation of Yahoo Article (5, Informative)

LucidityZero (602202) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094673)

Please note, I am merely an American German Student. Any native German speakers are welcome to correct me:


Stuttgart (AP) - The presumed programming of the computer worm "Phatbot" was apprehended this weekend: as the state criminal police agency in Stuttgart and the responsible public prosecutor's office communicated on Saturday, an unemployed 21 year old was arrested near Lörrach. He admitted to having programmed, with other hackers, the Trojan "Agobot", which was later renamed to "Phatbot". There is currently no known direct connection between him and the "Sasser" programmer arrested in Niedersachsen.

The authorities searched for evidence on Friday, through the apartment of the suspect, as well as five possible accomplices in Baden-Wuerttemberg, Niedersachen, Hamburg and Bavaria. Numerous documents as well as computers and storage media were confiscated, and would have to be examined further. References from US Authorities helped provide evidence for the arrest of the suspect.

The 21 year-old had already aimed attacks at US and Brittish companies in 2003. The companies concerned were offline for several days and suffered damages in the millions. Also in Germany it was indicated that the suspect penetrated company computers. Aside from just the criminal consequences, substantial compesnation demands may be made.

The trojan mentioned is transferred to unsuspecting computers in order to take control of them. The initial evidence of the authorities of Baden-Württemberg points to the 21 year-old using the "Sasser" in order to develop the much more dangerous worm "Agobot/Phatbot".

Re:Manual Translation of Yahoo Article (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094822)

"The presumed PROGRAMMING of the computer worm "Phatbot" was apprehended this weekend..."

Obiously, English is also a second language. I smell fish (of the Babel variety).

Re:Manual Translation of Yahoo Article (2, Interesting)

flyingdisc (598575) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094899)

I had a similar interpretation of the article.

What I don't understand however is how
"There is currently no known direct connection between him and the "Sasser" programmer arrested in Niedersachsen."

is consistent with
"initial evidence of the authorities of Baden-Württemberg points to the 21 year-old using the "Sasser" in order to develop the much more dangerous worm "Agobot/Phatbot".

any ideas? or am I missing something.

Example (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094675)

Germany should make an example of these lusers. Cut off their crusty little hands and no more coding worms!

roght transl of yahoo news (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094686)

Yahoo

Stuttgart (AP) The assumedly programmer of the computer virus has been arrested this weekend. As federal police authorities and the public attorney's office told, a 21 year old umemployed has been arrested. He has confessed to programmed agobot together with other programmed, which was later renamed to phatbot.

Until now there is no evidence for a connection between him and the sasser programmer, which has been arrested in "Niedersachsen" (a federal state of Germany)

Authorities said, they searched the house of the suspect and those of 5 other hackers (from Baden-Würtemberg, Niedersachsen, Hamburg Bavaria) on friday, Several documents, computers and storage media has been secured. They told the suspects have been traced because of evidence from US-authorities.

Evidence also indicate that 21 year old has been selective attacking companies from the US and Great Britain since 2003. Those companies have been offline for several days and the attacks caused damage worth millions(?) of dollars. PCs of german companies have been infiltrated, too. Besides the penal they will also be sued for high compensation.

So called "trojans" have been used to infiltrate other computers in order to get control of them. According to the evidence of the authorities of Baden Würtemberg the 21 year old used the worm sasser to spread his self-developed and much more dangerous worm agobot/phatbot.

a rought translation, sorry for the mistakes - english is not my native-language :-)

Is there a connection between Phatbot and Sasser? (3, Funny)

Orion Blastar (457579) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094697)

Could the authors of both worms be part of some German Cyber Terrorist group?

It seems most worms originate from other countries besides the USA. Could the worms be part of some Cyber Terrorist attack? If so, who is funding the development of these worms?

Re:Is there a connection between Phatbot and Sasse (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094724)

who is funding the development of these worms?

Mountain Dew, Mcdonalds, Krispy Kreme, Haggen daas

Re:Is there a connection between Phatbot and Sasse (4, Insightful)

AllUsernamesAreGone (688381) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094763)

Amazing as it may seem, not everyone who is out to do damage is part of a terrorist group. No, seriously! Probably only 0.5% of your average doing-bad-things person is a member of a terrorist organisation. I was as shocked as you are, it's incredible! All these people running around causing trouble without having the decency to live in a country you can bomb. I've found that you can actually travel around huge areas of Europe without even running into a terrorist, even in France!&lt/sarcasm>

Why exactly do they need to be funded? Ever thought that they might be doing it because they get some deranged kick out of it, or so thay can brag about it or simply because they're sodding mental?

Too many worms to be a coincidence (2, Funny)

Orion Blastar (457579) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094809)

North Korea, for example, spends $3 Billion USD a year to have viruses developed. I wonder how many other countries have such a program?

Hmmm, commit an act of Cyber Terrorism like release a worm into the wild, and just because you do not live in the middle-east, you are automatically not a terrorist?

In the USA we have our own terrorists, perhaps you forgot about Oklahoma City?

Terrorism knows no countries or races or religions, it is an equal opportunity employer.

Yeah just a bunch of kids having fun.

"Hey Gunthar, look at this worm I wrote, it takes 250K bytes of space."

"That is nothing Wolfgang, my worm only takes 15K of code."

"Ok Gunthar, let us release both of them onto the Internet and see which one wins!"

"Ok, but afterwords let's brag about them on IRC."

"Deal!"

Re:Is there a connection between Phatbot and Sasse (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094780)

They're members of the "Phatbin laden" terrorist group.

Re:Is there a connection between Phatbot and Sasse (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094814)

Considering that only a small part of the computers of the world reside in the USA there is nothing surpricing about the majoirity of software being written outside of said contry, regardless of style, application or authors intent.

Re:Is there a connection between Phatbot and Sasse (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094875)

you were modded as funny, what exactly is funny about your post, you assfuck fat geek ?

Re:Is there a connection between Phatbot and Sasse (0, Flamebait)

0racle (667029) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094968)

Well thank you for falling into the rhetoric supplied by your government. You make a fine American, never questioning, always assuming that the evils your told that are ever looming are responsible for everything bad that happens. 15 or so years ago, you would have been wondering if it was a communist plot to take down America.

Stop disinformation. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094703)

First of all, the sasser author was a 18 year old german. Phatbot author is reported to be 21 years old. Do not mix these two.
Phatbot author has not done anything that is truly illegal, atleast not publicly reported. All he has done is write source code. Source code is free speech, and the code even has a license.
Sasser author on the other hand create a _worm_ and set it loose on the internet. Phatbot/Agobot is _NOT_ a worm, even though some AV's claim it is.

ROBOT HOUSE! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094741)

hehehe...phatbot

Liebe Deutschland (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094856)

Liebe Deutschland,

Der Autor hat gesassen!

MfG,
Letter

Liebe Deutschland (1)

Letter (634816) | more than 10 years ago | (#9094867)

Liebe Deutschland,

Der Autor hat gesassen!

MfG,
Letter

'awesome' google translation? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9094912)

it still looks like german to me!
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