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ExtremeTech Reviews Google's Gmail Beta

timothy posted more than 10 years ago | from the a-place-for-your-stuff dept.

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JimLynch writes "Gmail, Gmail, Gmail--how do we love thee? Let us count the ways! We finally had a chance to try Google's new e-mail service and we're happy to say that, for the most part, we love it! In this article, we'll give you an overview of what you can expect from Gmail, as well as what we liked and didn't like about it. We'll also tell you what we think needs to be added to make it even better."

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ffff (-1, Offtopic)

BinLadenMyHero (688544) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103566)

1st

Re:ffff (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9103595)

I've got my beta account. I really like the setup, however my only beef is adding IMAP, wouldn't google still be able to include their ads into it?

Re:ffff (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9103603)

woo-ha!
my first first post, and i'm glad that i had the gut to post non-anonymously.
go ahead, mod me down. i don't care

--BLMH

Re:ffff (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9103797)

lame... please improve your first posting skills or i'll kill a puppy.

Pretty good timing (0, Interesting)

inode_buddha (576844) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103572)

What with their upcoming IPO and all.

Google rocks better than Dell (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9103601)

Google > Dell [geocities.com]

Sure.. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9103574)

They just like it because they can store all their pr0n on it.

Another review (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9103576)

From Dive Into Mark [diveintomark.org] .

Also, glad Slashdot FINALLY got a Google section/logo.

Re:Another review (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9103580)

This is actually the second Google story in the new category. The other was also today.

Disappointing benchmarks.. (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9103583)

GMail doesn't get the framerates I've come to expect from Yahoo!Mail.

Yeah, but... (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9103592)

Do you really need more 60 fps for mail? My computer does 72 fps on Gmail, and compared to my old computer that did 60, I really can't tell any difference.

Re:Disappointing benchmarks.. (5, Funny)

cabra771 (197990) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103699)

Only on Slashdot does a post like this get modded +1, Interesting.

Re:Disappointing benchmarks.. (-1, Redundant)

JayBlalock (635935) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103700)

*blink* Who modded this "interesting"?!?

They say people can't take a joke, but sheesh...

We just want it... (5, Insightful)

danielrm26 (567852) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103587)

While write-ups on the merits of Gmail are interesting and all that, the authors of such articles need to realize that few people who read /. actually care how good it is at this point. All we care about is getting the username we want; the notion of *not* getting an account -- regardless of faults -- isn't even fathomable...

Re:We just want it... (5, Interesting)

Planesdragon (210349) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103617)

All we care about is getting the username we want; the notion of *not* getting an account -- regardless of faults -- isn't even fathomable...

You seem to think that we're ALL mindless fanboys.

I for one won't be getting a GMAIL account. Unless the featureset somehow is worth the upset, which is probably won't be, I'm not going to bother.

Re:We just want it... (4, Insightful)

black mariah (654971) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103647)

The grandparent's statements are probably only applicable to those of us that only use web-based email and don't care to change to our own servers. The lack of fucking huge Flash and Javascript ads alone are enough to get me switching.

I will... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9103653)

Not so much for the space as the ability to send and receive large attachments.

Re:We just want it... (1)

penguinoid (724646) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103740)

I, on the other hand, will be getting an account the day it is publically available. Nothing like having a nice, short email address without numbers.

I'll decide if it is worth keeping later, but my gut instinct tells me that Google does Good Things (tm)

Re:We just want it... (1)

Too Much Noise (755847) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103793)

I agree it's a nice short email address ... as long as your gpg key is nice and long

Re:We just want it... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9103660)

i'll sell you danielrm26 for $50?

Re:We just want it... (5, Funny)

geekoid (135745) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103670)

I'm going to get Cowboyneal@gmail.com.

hmmm, On second thought, that seems a lot like owning 867-5309.

Re:We just want it... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9103672)

I don't intend to have anything to do with gmail. I already run my own mailserver - what would I need google for? And while I only use google as my search engine, even their search results are becoming less and less reliable.

Re:We just want it... (3, Informative)

cabra771 (197990) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103718)

Just as an aside to those who don't have a Gmail account, your email address has to be at least 6 characters long. That totally screwed me out of getting abe@gmail.com, which is all I wanted out of life. Just an easy frickin' email address to remember.

Re:We just want it... (1)

cujo_1111 (627504) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103744)

Just imagine if you were Greek and had a name with every consonant in it...

Re:We just want it... (1)

benna (614220) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103750)

nooooooooooooooo! I wanted benna@gmail.com.

Gmail... (2, Funny)

demonbug (309515) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103590)

Does that sound to anyone else like something you would see on a pimp's business card? You know, pimpboy69@GMAIL.com or something (assuming they had business cards, or used email - I'm not exactly a gold mine of info on the pimping business - it just sounds sort of trashy).

Re:Gmail... (2, Funny)

freetolio (778425) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103685)

Nah son, that'd be OGmail!

Not to me. I think you're thinking of @hotmale.com (2, Funny)

michaeldot (751590) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103710)

Gmail sounds pretty neutral. But I'm just waiting for @chainmail.com to start, so I can email my D&D buddies...

G mail... (4, Funny)

i love pineapples (742841) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103591)

Am I the only one who thought e-mail for homies and not google mail upon first hearing the name "gmail"?

Re:G mail... (2, Funny)

XMyth (266414) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103600)

Yes, yes you are the only one.

Re:G mail... (1)

penguinoid (724646) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103659)

No, I actually knew it was from Google. Because the first time I saw it it was in googly-colors (red, green, yellow, blue) and the appropriate font.

I think it would be interesting to write some other thing in Google-font and see if anyone falls for it.

Re:G mail... (3, Funny)

mblase (200735) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103669)

Myself, I thought of Strong Bad [homestarrunner.com] ....

Reading through this (5, Insightful)

leviramsey (248057) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103593)

...it looks like there's not much doing in gmail, save for the gig of space and a few very minor evolutions on what Opera's had for a while in M2.

Am I missing anything?

P.S.: I don't really see a reason to switch from mutt.

Re:Reading through this (5, Funny)

XMyth (266414) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103611)

Unfortunately neither does the other .03% of email users out there. One day we hope to be able to reach this vast market with apps like Thunderbird or Outlook, but that day may never come.

Re:Reading through this (5, Informative)

drivelikejehu (601752) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103651)

Did you even read the review? The "conversations" part of gmail is worth it enough to switch. Plus, with it's weird stylesheets thing it is a HELL of a lot faster than any other webmail system I've used (viewing source just shows a bunch of weird javascript, no html.) They really did a great job designing the UI - I have a feeling you'd be singing a different tune if you actually used it.

Re:Reading through this (4, Insightful)

ciroknight (601098) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103678)

Google's trying to have complete immersion in data, and combine with it the useful metadata people are not accustom to, like the easy conversation tracking that I've read about. It just seems like they're trying to push a more database-like look at our data so that it's quicker, faster, and easier to use. And a great way of pushing to that people is having a great large boat of space (1 Gig, with most emails I send and recieve totalling to 50kb, that's a lifetime's worth of email in one location).

Just because you're not used to this presentation of metadata, doesn't mean it's not good. Look at Nautilius' new file view. I hate it, everyone else seems to love it. Just goes to show you that the interfaces really are different from person to person. Now if only GNOME would embody that spirit some more and let me move around my toolbars within applications *shakes fists*. Oh well, can't ask for everything.

p.s. This is my theory on why iTMS is doing so well. You're really not buying a copy of the song , you could pirate that anyways. You're buying a copy of the song with a complete set of metadata, which is really hard to come by over P2P. And it's worth 99c to me to buy a song with completed metadata instead of having to complete it all myself. But once again, iTunes even fails for me, because I need a better way of looking through my artists and songs. I mean the UI is great, but it's just not perfect for me, if you understand that. Just goes to show you how important the presentation of the metadata is (and how Google has always been genius at it; KISSing always (keep it simple shorty ;).

Re:Reading through this (3, Insightful)

zopu (558866) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103696)

That's what I was thinking when I first started using the beta gmail - not much that opera doesn't do...

...except for one small difference. I now have those cool features (searching, labels, etc.) wherever I am in the world, regardless of the client machine.

I wish I could take opera with me. I can't, so gmail is a 'Good Thing' for me.

goatse mail (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9103596)

bsd is dying

why gmail? (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9103597)

I'm still lost on something. Why exactly would I want gmail? Wow. A full gigabyte of mail storage. Who cares? I rack up about a gig worth of email each year and I just dump it to a CD for archiving. All the mail I've ever recieved in the last decade is sitting in my mail folder under Mozilla to this day.

Is the big deal just that google is offering webmail accounts? If so, there are a million of those and I'm sure they'll be just as spammy as hotmail and anyone else eventually anyway. Free webmail through google is about as interesting as free government cheese.

Re:why gmail? (2, Interesting)

The_Mystic_For_Real (766020) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103657)

I have three minor and slightly redundant things to say.

1. People want to be the guy to get "john@gmail.com" so they can cease making friends and family remember a 7 digit number when they want to send an e-mail.

2. Others may want to make back-up accounts for files that they need to keep but aren't highly confidential or frequently used. They could also use it to distribute files amongst a group by uploading it and telling people the password. Now they can waste google.com bandwidth instead up their own.

3. If the government began giving free cheese to everyone it would be much more interesting than GMail.

Re:why gmail? (1)

LordoftheFrings (570171) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103675)

While I see the point you are making, and it is valid, this is something big not only because of the fact that it's 1 gig, and not only because of the fact that it's google, but apparently the UI is a great twist on the overdone e-mail thing, sporting a new "conversation" style in-box.

Re:why gmail? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9103679)

Mmmm... Cheese..

Re:why gmail? (4, Interesting)

penguinoid (724646) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103686)

there are a million of [email accounts] and I'm sure they'll be just as spammy as hotmail and anyone else

Hell no! I expect Google to be able to clean up spam very, very well, and quickly.

Or do you think that they are bad at finding things?

Re:why gmail? (2, Insightful)

G-funk (22712) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103767)

Yeah, because nobody's ever spammed google, and when you're searching you never get bullshit results that just go to other "search engines"...

Re:why gmail? (1)

jerw134 (409531) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103701)

I rack up about a gig worth of email each year and I just dump it to a CD for archiving.

Where can I purchase these CDs that are able to hold a gig of data? The largest ones I've ever seen only hold 700 megs.

Re:why gmail? (1)

ergo98 (9391) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103735)

Email tends to be highly compressible.

This typed to waste the time to the requisite 20 seconds.

Re:why gmail? (1)

alienw (585907) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103753)

Ever hear of .zip?

Re:why gmail? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9103778)

The last time I stocked up on CDRs, they were 700MB.
At a 6:1 ratio (an extremely conservative ratio), 'tar -cf' will easily allow you to archive 4.2gb of actual email.

I back my mail up to CD when it hits about a gigabyte of new data since the last archival. Every few years, I cram it all onto one full CD. In a couple more years, I'll need a bigger CD to fit it all on one disk and that's when I'll move to DVDRs which are currently 4.7gb and I will be able to store about 28gb of mail (when compressed) which at my current rate of email accumulation, should last me until 2028, when I'll be around 50 years old.

Re:why gmail? (1)

MoOsEb0y (2177) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103702)

wouldn't that be two CDs? unless you're using some special filesystem I don't know about.

Re:why gmail? (1)

dilby (725275) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103712)

Sure you say that now, but when I've got 3l337h4x0r@gmail.com as my account and you don't, you 'll care.

Mothers Day (5, Insightful)

augustz (18082) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103716)

Seeing at it's mothers day a perfect story.

My folks aren't interest in backing up to a CD (in what format / compatabile with what), installing a piece of software on every machine they want to use email from. Frankly, I'm not either.

They want a company they can trust, who will provide a nice clean email service with good space, and without tons of ads and menu bars and junk. That is google.

Volunteer at an old folks home and try to get them to login even to their yahoo email account. The logins and home page are so damn busy that for an older person it is a very real challenge to get to the page they need.

Ccheck out hotmail, you have to agree to four TOS, sign up for a passport account, check it every 30 days, pay $ for a tiny amount of space etc, they force you to accept members newsletter with product announcements etc etc... and a 140 million folks have accounts with them.

And you say no one would want Gmail. You are out to lunch. Google is offering a TON more space, a clean interface, from a company folks like.

They will clean up.

Re:why gmail? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9103732)

I think this is important and interesting. The features such as improved threading and multiple indexing (as opposed to folders) recognize a simple, but as-yet-ignored truth about email, which is that it is not like normal mail. You can file normal mail, you can organize it, it is tangible; but email is a mobile and organic thing that can be better organized to represent the actual modalities of human interaction.

Re:why gmail? (3, Insightful)

ciroknight (601098) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103779)

Seems like this is the hot bullet, I'll give it my shot.

RFTA to find out a lot of things like conversation tracking, ease of use, good spam defense, 10 meg attachments, and most of all to me, the brilliant layout of the metadata.

As I stated here [slashdot.org] , users today are really into knowing everything about that email even before they open it. So when they do open it, they're not surprised by anything. This is why traditional webmail sucks: the spam these days slips right under most filters used by Yahoo! and Hotmail and the big others. It's also a lot harder to know what someone is replying to without having a lot of those ugly "<"'s everywhere. GMail gets rid of the need for that.

Also, if you're a busy person like me, and you don't even have enough time to carry around a laptop, and instead use a computer whereever you go, Gmail is great. This is the advantage of webmail over outlook (Outlook is really starting to close this gap with Outlook Titanium. It's almost the whole feel of Outlook through the browser.) and Eudora.

Google also throws in their great search engine into the mix. "Computer, *churp sound*, give me all emails from this date from this specific person dealing with the Cardassian entrenchment of Yardin-5."

All and all, GMail is what webmail should be. Hey, they're even throwing in a Gig of storage!

Re:why gmail? (1)

MrRTFM (740877) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103785)

I rack up about a gig worth of email each year and I just dump it to a CD for archiving.

So, what do you think of all the news reports covering CD rot [slashdot.org] ?

The review is a bit lacking... (2, Interesting)

SeaDour (704727) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103604)

I'm glad they covered all the important features and what needs to be added or improved, but I wish they'd spent some time going over the privacy issues and what they think about Google reading our e-mails.

Ah well -- still a decent review overall. Kudos to Mr. Lynch.

Re:The review is a bit lacking... (4, Insightful)

kinzillah (662884) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103635)

You mean like any application that touches your mail? Like that nice spam filter?

It isn't as though a person is looking through it. Its just a machine looking through for keywords and puttings ads on the side. It isn't even collecting stats.

Who cares? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9103639)

Why does their opinion about your privacy matter? It's something each person needs to decide for him or herself.

Re:The review is a bit lacking... (5, Insightful)

augustz (18082) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103640)

Your emails are evaluated by a computer ALREADY as part of almost every single virus and spam filtering process on the market. Most of these processes include word by word scanning to develop effective spam filters.

Folks have raised a number of interesting privacy issues. However, I think the EFF has done a MUCH better job then many of the other groups who are literally out to lunch on this.

If you don't trust google with your email, you can always trust it to hotmail, who will do their level best to lock you into their service, cancel your account, including advertising tags in your messages etc etc.

Re:The review is a bit lacking... (1)

SeaDour (704727) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103652)

I didn't mean to imply that I had some concerns over the advertising system -- I just think that if the article had brought up the points you just mentioned, it would be even better.

I personally will be signing up with GMail as soon as it is released to the general public.

Re:The review is a bit lacking... (1)

augustz (18082) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103733)

Fair enough, it would have been nice if it had addressed them. The history though in addressing the privacy issue has been sensationalism so far.

I've actually got a gmail account and the ads are like the ads on their search, so separate you can forget they are there if you want, and thank GOD they don't jump around in your face.

Coolest is that they've got a set of keyboard shortcuts you can use. The old timers who love the CLI are going to love it.

Re:The review is a bit lacking... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9103738)

It's not as if thousands of Google employees sit there reading your mail. It's just scanned automatically for keywords that match up with their ad database. It's exactly the same thing they do to your search results. Put away your tinfoil hat and calm down.

Re:The review is a bit lacking... (1)

cujo_1111 (627504) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103777)

Who cares if Google is reading your email, it is their server that they are letting you use.

It is a free service (with a heap of storage space), you pay for the privilege by letting them read you mail and serve you ads you might actually be interested in.

Incomplete Email Service (1)

Space_Soldier (628825) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103607)

When I have heard about it, I have said to mysef that I will be the first to sign up. No matter how much storage they'll give me, I will not sign up until they also give POP3/IMAP/SMTP. I love Opera's 7.5 M2 client. I don't care if they show ads from the data in my email as long as they don't use names.

Re:Incomplete Email Service (1)

KD5YPT (714783) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103666)

Give them some credit man, it's just Betas right now, frankly, I also don't mind if they decided to append ads to my e-mail.

Really (2, Funny)

labratuk (204918) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103615)

How "extreme" can webmail be?

That all depends... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9103641)

on the "teens" posing for the pictures I suppose.

Send HTML mail (1)

Mourgos (621534) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103621)

Since when can't you send HTML mail in Hotmail??? Isn't that the default?

SEND ME A GMAIL INVITE PLEASE (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9103623)

to cmdrivanx@yahoo.com (no, i'm not posting my ISP account on the web). I must get an account to be l33t thanks!

On it's way (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9103649)

Make sure you don't have spam blocking on.

Re:On it's way (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9103748)

Liar. Didn't get anything.

Re:On it's way (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9103756)

I sent it. I'm not sure how long a lag there is.

what would make it better (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9103628)

A public beta.... prediction: -1 redundant

Gmail: Will it last? (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9103631)

As I was writing in my web blog [about.com] , I think that piracy is going to kill Gmail. The only way to stop it? Bandwidth constraints, but with those, the 1GB offered is useless.

Expansion is a slippery slope (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9103637)

Searches and webmail are a great start, but my sources tell me that Google is currently in the development stages of a system that will do my taxes , make breakfast, and find me a girlfriend (and God knows, I hope it works).

SeaDour is a jungle nigger (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9103648)

Go back to Nigeria SeaDour you Nigerian nigger.

slogan (0, Flamebait)

aNonMooseCowherd (169745) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103650)

Is the gmail motto "All your email are belong to us"? Or does Microsoft have a trademark on that?

Snore... (1)

vallejo1021 (655726) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103658)

So is this review from the same guys who write those breathless "gee whiz" press releases for Apple? Sure sounds like it...

Cannot do partial word searches (5, Informative)

Therlin (126989) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103662)

I love Gmail and I use it daily, unfortunately it cannot do partial word searches.

I don't know about you, but I'm not the world's best speller and I can't always remember the correct spelling of a location or someone's last name, but I do know the first few words so in my e-mail client I can do a search for those first few letters and find the message I am trying to locate.

Unfortunately it is not the case with Google Mail. I contacted support and they confirmed the fact for me. "Thank you for your message. Gmail does not currently offer partial word search." They did say that they'd forward it to the appropriate team, but as of this writing, it has not been implemented.

mailing lists (5, Insightful)

JoshuaDFranklin (147726) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103668)

A friend referred me for an account and I love it. He didn't even mention how useful it is with mailing lists. Tired of your email box being filled with 25 messages with the same subject? Gmail puts them all together like

Linda, Bob, Fred (25) GPL the best?

Where the first name of the latest reply is in bold. Very cool and very useful for management. I know mutt can already do this with threading, but AFAIK can't open all the messages in the thread together like gmail's conversations. This is a feature that needs to be added to every email client.

Re:mailing lists (4, Funny)

DiSKiLLeR (17651) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103792)

Can you refer anyone to get a gmail account? How many people? Can you refer me? Please? Pretty pretty pretty please with a cherry on top?

D.

do people really like the use of threads in email? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9103681)

I personally HATE it!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re:do people really like the use of threads in ema (1)

crem_d_genes (726860) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103742)

I'm on about 15 listservs with hundreds of subscribers - mostly for science and math education - Your strong personal preferences noted, but without having a threading feature - or equivalent - sorting through these would be very tedious.

I've lost track (5, Funny)

crem_d_genes (726860) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103684)

...of all the e-mail accounts I have.
Maybe google can finally find them.

Hey where's MY GMail?? (1)

skeezix-the-cat (726758) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103689)

Hey what am I, chopped liver? Where's MY beta-GMail? cheers, skeezix....

Bad reporting (3, Informative)

KalvinB (205500) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103691)

Hotmail syncs with Outlook Express. I've been using it for years.

I don't know about Yahoo. They may have just mixed up the columns on that one.

It's also interesting that GMail doesn't do HTML e-mails. Indie-Mail doesn't either through the web (client limitation) but I allow POP3 and IMAP so you can use any client. There are no built in restrictions to the actual mail server.

And virus scanning should have been a given. There are open source virus scanners if they're using *nix boxes. Indie-Mail uses McAfee which works really well. They may be concerned about the system resources needed to do virus scanning. Although there shouldn't be anything stopping them from running dedicated virus scanning systems that are mapped to the drives on other systems.

You don't have to run the virus scanner on the same computer that you're scanning.

They could also just be worried about killing off legitimate e-mails and don't want to send off notices about infected e-mails.

Ben

Re:Bad reporting (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9103715)

HTML in email = GAY.

JoshuaDFranklin sucks floppy nigger cocks. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9103693)

JoshuaDFranklin is homosexual.

Can you say: Common storage? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9103706)

Why is everyone missing the biggest point here? Gmail is not about mail, it is about One GigaByte of shared storage! That's how many 6MP pictures? Or how many mp3's? How many accounts will simply be created to just share a gigabyte of stuff?

Yup, I know there are privacy issues, but have you ever heard of encryption?

And finally, am I finisheg asking questions?

Gmail Looks Leet. (1)

natas802 (773145) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103709)

I think gmail looks pretty leet so far. i REALLY dont see what the big deal with the whole ads thing is either. Doesnt sound that bad at all to me and im glad the author of the review felt the same way. Does anyone have any idea when gmail is gonna launch?????!

GMail woop deeee do (1, Interesting)

GoClick (775762) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103728)

Yeah yeah it's kinda cool, mostly cause it's free but whatever. Most people probably don't need the search features. To be that detailed, plain text search in any mail client would do. IMAP and a Gig of storage from someone like www.upnix.com shouldn't cost you very much and you can get your own domain. I'm just not that impressed GMail doesn't tickle me pink.

Cool. (4, Informative)

MrEd (60684) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103730)

If you want an email account that's simple, bandwidth-light, fast, ad-free, does https, has 50+ domains to choose from plus more fantastique features, check out FastMail [fastmail.fm] . I swear I am not astroturfing, just a satisfied evangelizing customer.


GMail will have targeted ads. I haven't seen a banner ad (spam aside) since I signed up for FastMail years ago.

Re:Cool. (3, Informative)

MrEd (60684) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103754)

Oh, just remembered, they do IMAP at the free account level, and even POP if you sign up.

Who needs 1GB of storage when you can fetch your mail locally with one mousedrag in your favorite mail client?

How much space is actually needed? (2, Interesting)

FaasNat (522755) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103731)

Having 1 gig of space is a lot to fill up for us regalar joes. As hard as that would be for me to fill up, I have heard that Google employees have 1 terrabyte of space. Imagine all the email that would add up to!

Kmail? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9103741)

when is the KDE team gonna catch up?

I still think its a big liability... (3, Interesting)

doormat (63648) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103752)

It could easily be a pirates den. If a CD in MP3s is roughly 100MB, users go into some IRC channel, request with an gmail addy and then it magically shows up in their inbox to download and delete. All at google's disk space and bandwidth.

Gmail (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9103765)

The thing I'm trying to figure out is why the KDE people haven't started on Kmail yet. You'd think they wouldn't let gnome get this far ahead,

Delete? (2, Informative)

RoadkillBunny (662203) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103772)

I have a beta account at gmail. Right now I am tring to delete a email, but have trouble. There is no trashcan icon or 'delete' in the "More Actions" menu. I know it's possible, since there is a folder called trash.

Browsers (4, Informative)

FlipmodePlaya (719010) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103775)

In the ET review they are surprised to find keyboard shortcuts work with Moz, Epiphany, FF, etc; not just IE. I was impressed with that, too, I would expect Google to let the minority toil away without such advanced features,

However, it looks like they don't support all browsers after all: as seen here at their site [google.com] . I'm browsing on Opera, so I get this message: 'Gmail does not currently support your browser.'. I wouldn't at all be surprised if they ended up supporting it after the beta, however. As the review noted, a lot of expected features (such as sigs and virus scanning) were left out in this early version.

With a name like gmail.... (0, Redundant)

Dingeaux (768490) | more than 10 years ago | (#9103781)

...I'd be expecting gold chains and flashy symbols to come with my new email address...

"Stupid anti-pimping laws" - Bender
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