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In-Flight Wi-Fi Makes its Debut

simoniker posted more than 10 years ago | from the fly-by-wi-fi dept.

Wireless Networking 336

mindless4210 writes "German airline Lufthansa will become the first carrier to provide Boeing's Connexion service to its passengers. The service will be unveiled on May 17 on non-stop flights from Munich to Los Angeles, with plans to outfit their entire fleet over the next year. Passengers will be able to purchase access using their credit cards and Wi-Fi enabled laptops. The cost is set at $30 for the entire flight or $10 for 30 minutes."

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Great (0, Offtopic)

Sexual Asspussy (453406) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110009)

I look forward to crapflooding from international airspace.

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Re:Great (1)

Trurl's Machine (651488) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110290)

I look forward to crapflooding from international airspace.

To begin with, it won't be from international airspace. You will be bound by the law of the respective carrier and the in-flight Internet Service Provider, that will most likely be the CBB - Connexion By Boeing [boeing.com] . Obviously, every nerd worth this proud name, must at least consider the idea of hosting a "screw DMCA!" warez server on his laptop traveling across the Atlantic, but actually connecting to the Net via CBB is just like connecting from Seattle, even if your signal goes to this beautiful city through a fairly sophisticated satellite network. So when you are posting from a German plane through a Seattle-based provider, you can't claim freedom from DMCA/Euro-DMCA. But you can crapflood from the sky since quite a long time - Lufthansa already offers in-flight broadband. The only thing that is new this time is the Wi-Fi. Actually, I don't think it's a good idea - Wi-Fi consumes more power than cable ethernet connection, and if you don't fly business/first, you try to save every zilch of energy on your laptop.

Whole new world.. (5, Funny)

baudilus (665036) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110014)

mid-air LAN party!!

Re:Whole new world.. (5, Funny)

Otto (17870) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110051)

I really don't want people yelling out "Look out for the rocket!" during my flights, personally.

Why Not (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9110269)

Just so long as the guy is in front of his laptop and not looking out the window.

If he is looking out the window, THEN it is time to start worrying.

Re:Whole new world.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9110060)

..mile high LAN party ;)

Re:Whole new world.. (4, Interesting)

frenetic3 (166950) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110096)

Anyone know what the latency (ping times) would be on the Connexion service? Would it be like satellite (hundreds of ms?) (I know parent was referring to the plane's LAN in which latency is negligible, but what about communications to the rest of the world?)

-fren

Re:Whole new world.. (4, Informative)

baudilus (665036) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110187)

from the CBB FAQ (currently /.ed):
What is the Connexion by Boeing service infrastructure?
* Airborne system: airborne antennas, airborne servers, routers, and associated wiring.
* Ground system: network operations center, associated satellite uplink and downlink equipment, and business operation center.
* Space system: leased satellite transponders.
It looks like they do use satellites, but they also seem to have ground NOC's and antennae. They don't say which is used for what, but it's safe to assume that it won't be as fast as my optonline connection :D

Re:Whole new world.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9110203)

It is satellite so I am guessing that it will be just like satellite. I guess the latency would be ever so slightly less since you will be at least 30,000 ft closer to the satellite.

Re:Whole new world.. (5, Funny)

NanoGator (522640) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110153)

"mid-air LAN party!!"

Finally! Geeks can join the Mile High club! Too bad it won't have the same significance...

Wink wink (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9110015)

Does this mean that us nerds can now join the "mile high club"?

Re:Wink wink (2, Funny)

F13 (9091) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110073)

yeah, the "mile high solo club"

Re:Wink wink (4, Informative)

josh3736 (745265) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110079)

I don't believe your own right hand counts for admission to the mile high club.

Plane 2 Plane (5, Interesting)

SirChris (676927) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110017)

Any use for plane to plane communications? quickly sending your vital stats, etc. or just as a log of who you have passed.

Re:Plane 2 Plane (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9110131)

I really, really, really hope that at no point while flying will my plane be close enough to another plain to do any communication via WiFi.

Re:Plane 2 Plane (4, Funny)

NanoGator (522640) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110183)

"Any use for plane to plane communications? quickly sending your vital stats, etc. or just as a log of who you have passed. "

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great (0, Redundant)

thejackhmr (643947) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110018)

Sounds like a good deal to me.

Interesting... (5, Funny)

Sv-Manowar (772313) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110027)

Can't wait till someone acidentally starts controlling the plane with MS Flight simulator
"Pull up!, Pull up!"

feels strange (5, Insightful)

Chuck Bucket (142633) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110034)

I used to look forward to flights because it gave me time to get lost in a book while sipping some whiskey. now I'll be answering (and dealing with) crap from work? I'm not sure if I'll do this; some times you just can't reach me (this is why all of my phones are off when I'm asleep).

CVS

Re:feels strange (1)

mirror_dude (775745) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110106)

Here here...
I got really annoyed when they started putting sat phones on the planes (fortunitly they sor dam expensive that no one used them).
The article doesnt mention what they use for the down link so you might not have to worry about your working getting in touch with you (IE everyone could be sharring a 128k link which cuts out every so often).

Re:feels strange (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9110262)

yes, I agree with your comment if we're discussing shorter flights. On 10-14 hour international flights, however, it really would be nice to have internet access for a portion of the flight.

Re:feels strange (4, Insightful)

TopShelf (92521) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110284)

Sad days, indeed. Instead of the old, "coffee, tea, or me?" it's become "coffee, tea, or 802.11b?"

It would seem our priorities are getting seriously out of whack.

How long will it be.... (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9110035)

...before we start hearing horror stories about sitting next to sketchy guys who are checking out pr0n on the plane?

Not long.. (1)

baudilus (665036) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110129)

They do it now with magazines. At least now you'll be able to hear the sounds too...

Re:How long will it be.... (4, Funny)

Gr33nNight (679837) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110146)

You dont need the internet to check put porn on a website. Why do you think people have 6 120-gig hard drives on their PC? Not that I am saying I have 6 120-gig hard drives on my computer full of Jenna Jameson DIVX, organized by year or anything.

Re:How long will it be.... (1)

Gr33nNight (679837) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110172)

Alright, thats what I get when I dont PREVIEW , but what I meant to say was :

You dont need the internet to check out porn on a laptop, etc etc etc

Re:How long will it be.... (5, Funny)

Neil Blender (555885) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110159)

...before we start hearing horror stories about sitting next to sketchy guys who are checking out pr0n on the plane?

May 17th.

Or... (1)

digitalamish (449285) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110230)

Someone brings a wireless router of their own, and makes themselves a hub. Brings new meaning to Warflying...

How long (1)

Progman3K (515744) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110043)

before someone finds a way to hack this Wifi security and EVERYONE flying uses it without cost?

Re:How long (5, Interesting)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110139)

put two wifi cards in your laptop and run an open "ap", and everyone with you (or optionally, everyone) can use the service for the price of just you.

Connection speed??? (1, Informative)

molarmass192 (608071) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110050)

Doesn't seem to be mentioned anywhere and the Boeing site appears to be dead. I'm assuming it's better than dial-up.

Re:Connection speed??? (1)

darth_MALL (657218) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110074)

The website mentioned 'broadband', but there are very few technical details, besides talking about the phased array antennae. Cool nonetheless.

Re:Connection speed??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9110091)

Boeing site loads very quickly for me. It is high-speed satellite internet access. It doesn't give specific speed but I am sure it is good enough for surfing purposes.

Re:Connection speed??? (1)

deutschemonte (764566) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110158)

The only reference to speed I can find is some sort of "ueber schnell" protocol.

Re:Connection speed??? (2, Informative)

Pranjal (624521) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110275)


The site mentions that it will be over a broadband connection. But the website also mentions that they will using 802.11b so that's a maximum bandwith of 11Mbps shared among atleast 15-20 users at the very minimum. Factoring the satellite connection lag I'm pretty sure it will go down to a crawl. Just check your emails and get along with it.

Pricey (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9110052)

$30 bucks for a 9ish hour flight. Not horrible, but a tad bit pricey. Then again, non stop tickets run about $3400, so what's another $30 going to hurt?

Re:Pricey (4, Insightful)

krisp (59093) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110128)

You still don't have an electrical outlet. Lets hope you have 9 hours of battery life to get your money worth!

Re:Pricey (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9110168)

I'm assuming that planes that carry this services are also the type of planes that have power outlets. Of course, how sketchy this power may be I don't know.

Re:Pricey (1)

rekoil (168689) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110235)

Actually, most airlines now have low-voltage power ports (much like car cigarette lighter jacks) in the armrests, at least in the First and Business classes. Some have it in coach as well. But you'll need the correct adapter to use them on your laptop...

Re:Pricey (1)

jo_ham (604554) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110296)

I have an iBook - I can get 6 hours, easy (although I'm not sure with the Airport card powered up - I usually turn it off in flight, I mean, what am I going to connect to up there until now?)

An extra battery and I have enough for 10 or so hours easy, even adding for frivolous power waste, like increasing the screen brightness or listening to a CD rather than mp3.

Re:Pricey (1)

SteelX (32194) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110256)

I'll happily pay $30 rather than be bored for 9 hours.

free p0rn (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9110054)

free, instant access to single version of 1 mile club...

The guys doing flyovers for wifi hotspots. (5, Funny)

linzeal (197905) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110055)

Will have a moving target now, this ought to be fun. Maybe we will see cessnas darting in and out of 747 flight paths to get free internet access, right?

Re:The guys doing flyovers for wifi hotspots. (3, Funny)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110081)

Maybe you could just follow behind them and just below their slipstream off to the sides like geese. You'd get an improvement in efficiency and free WiFi.

Re:The guys doing flyovers for wifi hotspots. (1)

BillLeeLee (629420) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110093)

I was about to say who of you were extreme enough to go warplaning.

Re:The guys doing flyovers for wifi hotspots. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9110188)

Maybe we will see cessnas darting in and out of 747 flight paths to get free internet access, right?

Yeah, except it isn't free, moron.

is hacking time (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9110058)

From coast to coast, once in germany I'll visit the sasser worm author plead guilty and receive a slap on the wrists as much punishment, god bless intercontinental hacking.....

I would pay for this (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9110061)

Just for chance of doing an in-flight first post on Slashdot.

On the positive side.... (1)

icekillis (777986) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110062)

On the positive side... it beats playing solitaire.

Interference (4, Interesting)

RobPiano (471698) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110063)

I would love to have wifi on a long flight and $30 isn't completely unreasonable for a flight from Germany to California. This is all fine, but can someone explain to me if we can have wifi on a flight, why can't I have my CD player turned on when the plane first takes off? I've never understood how a CD player could mess with their equipment very much, but I can imagine wifi being a bit of a problem...

Re:Interference (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9110110)

I've never understood how a CD player could mess with their equipment very much

Neither does anyone else, friend. Frankly, if someone could crack on a CD player and screw with the instrumentation, I don't want to be on that plane.

Re:Interference (1)

darth_MALL (657218) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110141)

I asked a 'steward' that question, and he said that it was a passenger saftey issue. You have to be able to hear instructions, presumably because the majority of air accidents are in the take-off and landing stages of the flight.

Why you can't listen on takeoff & landing (5, Informative)

k2dbk (724898) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110144)

I've never understood how a CD player could mess with their equipment very much...
I once asked why, and was told that they don't want you to not be able to hear any announcement that might be made during those "critical" times.

Re:Interference (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9110173)

Its much easier to explain to the general populus that NO electronics can be used during take off, as opposed to explaining a whole list of items that can't be used.

Re:Interference (5, Funny)

UrgleHoth (50415) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110201)

I get around this restriction by bringing aboard my trusty old victrola.

stealing the connection (5, Interesting)

jridley (9305) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110065)

I can see people who don't want to pay for the connection sniffing someone's traffic, then cloning their MAC address and surfing for free after the guy switches off.

Re:stealing the connection (4, Interesting)

Progman3K (515744) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110125)

What about proxying?

If you're flying with office mates, one buys service time, and proxies the other(s).

pr0n! (3, Funny)

joda (124489) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110075)

wohee, now i don't need to wait for the hotspots in arrivals ...

Reasonable... (1)

baudilus (665036) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110076)

It sounds like a reasonable price, especially if it aids productivity, but what I'd really like to know is (1) how much the service costs the airline versus how much they stand to make from consumers and (2) how fast will it be (802.11b? g?)

I didn't expect to be able to find the pricing, but I did expect to find some sort of speed rating, which I haven't been able to locate.

VoIP (5, Funny)

Chairboy (88841) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110078)

What are the odds that VoIP ports are either blocked or the latency makes it unusable? The airline industry has put quite a bit of effort into explaining why Airphone is The Only Right Way to talk from a plane.

"Ladies and gentlemen, we must ask that you not use your laptop as a phone over the internet as it... may cause cancer."

Re:VoIP (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9110127)

What are the odds that VoIP ports are either blocked or the latency makes it unusable?

19% with a margin of error of +/- 3%.

Re:VoIP (1)

razmaspaz (568034) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110166)

Yeah, but at first, try explaining this to a flight attendant.
Me: No I am not talking on my cell...I am using my laptop to talk to my kids.
Flight Attendant: Uh huh. Sir please take off the handsfree and turn off your cell phone.
Me: No really its my computer!?

Re:VoIP (2, Informative)

lukewarmfusion (726141) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110234)

VoIP over port 80. Unless they're monitoring traffic for specific packets (not just blocking ports)... then again, I have a feeling that these planes won't also be equipped with a sysadmin and Packeteer. Then again... that would explain the costs.

Re:VoIP (1)

dr_dank (472072) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110242)

What about bandwidth concerns? I'm sure whatever satellite pipe they're using wouldn't support every user on the plane on Vonage, Kazaa or someother such bandwidth-hogging service.

Re:VoIP (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9110305)

It's satellite internet connection with a latency of at least (2*36000km)/(300000km/s)=240ms -- just for the signal to travel the distance. Add to that the delay caused by the satellite uplink equipment, the time packets travel through the internet (including the latency of the other "last mile") and codec latency. Under these circumstances VoIP doesn't look awfully attractive.

Porn? Warez? (3, Funny)

Golgafrinchan (777313) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110088)

Is this going to be a totally free service, or will certain sites be "blocked off"? I expect to see a marked increase in the number of passengers arrested for indecent exposure. Or even better, over the loudspeaker: "Passenger in seat 17E: Keep it in your pants. Thank you."

Re:Porn? Warez? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9110246)

"Please return your laptop and tray to the original non-upright position" ?

New Chat Opening Line (1)

ZephyrTheBreeze (532880) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110090)

Hey honey... guess where I'm connecting from...

How long... (0, Redundant)

Kegster (685608) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110099)

before someone hacks the fucker so they don't have to pay

And I really hope Boeing have had the good sense to isolate the system from everything remotely critical, else it could out a whole new spin on War-flying

Hiring Security techs (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9110102)

Just interviewed there about 2 months ago for an IDS system. It was currently put on hold (after the interview process btw), but from what I hear they have an IDS guy leaving or switching roles. If you live in seattle and don't mind working down by boeing field, would be a cool company to work for. Usually they're looking for CISSP / GIAC's. From what they told me, this should be rolled out to a huge consortum of airlines by the end of 2004. Will be interesting to see how this roles out, as another company in Seattle is there largest competitor, who rolled out the service previously.

Flash vs. no Flash (4, Informative)

Big Nothing (229456) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110105)

A Flash-free website with information on Boeing Connexion can be found here [connexionbyboeing.com] .

How much does it cost to fly Lufthansa though? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9110108)

I'd rather take the charter flights with no internet access thanks.

Doesn't this interfere with (1)

Power Everywhere (778645) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110112)

their electornics? One is typically told to turn off all music players, laptops, and mobile phones before the flight begins, and only laptops and music players are safe to use in-flight.

Can someone explain to me how Wi-Fi is going to be a safe bet to use throughout the flight?

Re:Doesn't this interfere with (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9110244)

Maybe because they built it into the plane and tested it. There is also some doubt has to how mucht these things really do intefere with the navigation of the plane.

Re:Doesn't this interfere with (1)

clichekiller (665320) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110276)

No more then then the electromagnetic radiation already pouring through the aircraft. The concern with electronic devices is not that they will cause interference, just that they could. That is why they limit the use of electronic devices specifically during take-off and landing, because those are the most critical moments of any flight. Other devices are limited during the entire flight because of their increased likelihood of causing problems, ie. they use more power.

Also, your cell phone uses considerable more power in sending out and receiving signals then does your average wi-fi card. When was that last time you could get more then five hundred feet from your access point. In reality I'm chained to within a few dozen of feet away. We're talking extremely low power. Additionally they control the service so it will presumeably be disabled during take-off and landings, something you shouldn't be able to verify as your laptop should be stowed at the time. Maybe if you had one of those Belkin Wi-Fi detectors you could see.

Additionally, and this may be presuming much, the FAA and airlines have conducted a significant amount of reasearch into this and are aware, given that Boeing build both the aircraft and sponsors the Wi-Fi, know how the two will interact.

pr0n everywhere! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9110113)

The places on this planet that you can't access pr0n are rapidly diminishing. This is among the final steps to the ultimate victory of civilization.

Hmm... (0)

James A. O. Joyce (777976) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110114)

$10 for half an hour...that's about six pounds. Wow! A fifth of a penny per minute! That's about three or four times cheaper than we get normal landline service with BT over here in Britain!

Why are the airlines able to give us ultra-highspeed Internet access thirty thousand feet from any phone lines for next to nothing. and yet the biggest phone company in Europe is unable to get me freakin' 56K for more than two pence a minute?

Re:Hmm... (1)

Vario (120611) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110307)

$10 for 30 minutes -> 33 cents per minute

So you have to pay about 20 pence per minute. I usually get two ads per week from NTL for cable. They offer here in Coventry a 1000 kbit/s line for about 30 pounds per month.

Ripoff (1)

Space_Soldier (628825) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110115)

Common, this is pure ripoff. Most ISPs charge $30 for a month of Internet access service.

Re:Ripoff (1)

tpconcannon (619066) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110280)

And how much does the Telco charge you to make the call to your ISP? Add the amount you are charged for dialing up to your figure there, and the cost goes up considerably.

fragging the crap out of other passenger (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9110130)

And screaming from first class: "I own you!!! lousy coach tourist."

politically incorrect (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9110162)

Would I still keep watching my nazi and neo-nazi web blogs while on a Lufthansa flight? else I'll wait for virgin to kick their nuts with a better offer as always.

And for the _realy_ hardcore geek (1)

DrLZRDMN (728996) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110167)

WAR flying

Airport panic (2, Insightful)

InternationalCow (681980) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110176)

I myself am used to editing my talks while on the plane and in flight access to the databases that I use will be of great help. Can't wait to get this. Something else though - I'm wondering about in flight information. You can usually get really up-to-date weather info and so on during the flight. I can imagine a scenario where flyers with wi-fi access will know of bad weather and, possibly, impending disaster before it's being announced by the captain (who usually won't announce impending disaster anyway). We could get a new kind of panic - Airport panic (capitalization is intentional :)).

Good news everyone! (1)

Paulrothrock (685079) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110186)

It's Mac Compatible. [connexionbyboeing.com] PDF, sorry. (Unfortunately, there is a step 3.)

I know it's bad form (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9110204)

so I'm posting as AC, but this is not news. There was a test phase last year, a European roll-out early this year, etc. etc. I have submitted links to at least three stories about it over the past year, all rejected. I'm sure others have done the same. So are the various "story approvers" that radically different that they can't even agree on what is news? And is it just luck of the draw as to who gets to approve a given submission?

A bit too expensive? (1)

FunWithKnives (775464) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110210)

"The cost is set at $30 for the entire flight or $10 for 30 minutes."

Is it just me, or does 30 bucks for around four or five hours of internet access seem a bit excessive? That's just about what I pay for a month's worth right now...

Don't use that bathroom (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9110213)

With the load of flight by p0rn I wouldnt use those airplane bathrooms at all unless you would like to get pregnant.

Being a flight attendant wouldn't get worse :(

Good way for the airlines to make more money (2, Interesting)

strictnein (318940) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110215)

I see this as a good way for airlines to make more money. Having recently flown Frontier and enjoyed the 22 (or so) channel satellite TV service (that I paid a nominal $5 charge for - and was free until after take off) I welcome many options like this for the airlines. I do admit that $30 is pretty steep for something like this. I'm not a penny pincher by any means, but I would find it tough to cough up the cash for this. I would, however, easily plunk down $15 for this service.

I'm also happy the airlines have been increasingly moving towards charging for inflight meals as it's something I've thought they should have done long again. Instead of everyone, no matter if you're hungry or not, getting plain awful food, those who wish to pay a reasonable price actually get good food.

Re:Good way for the airlines to make more money (1)

strictnein (318940) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110286)

service will be unveiled on May 17 on non-stop flights from Munich to Los Angeles,

Missed the length of the flight. $30 for that flight is a good deal. $10 for 30 minutes on the other hand... that's pretty steep.

$30? (2, Redundant)

sulli (195030) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110219)

Who will be the first to set up his laptop as an access point as well as a client, to share it?

Re:$30? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9110278)

My guess is it will be some pasty white pear shaped loser like you that doesn't have any friends to share it with anyway.

Trip.com (1)

Roger W Moore (538166) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110239)

One nice feature of it will be being able to go to trip.com and find out where you actually are. Of course this is only uselful on planes which don't have the in seat displays where you can select the inflight map anytime you want to.

$10 for 30 mins? (-1, Troll)

xintegerx (557455) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110241)

Rant 1.
That's like you could give a female passenger next to you that much money to get the real thing. Why bother your own left-hand for $10? Just make sure she lets go when flying over states against gay marriage, just to be safe from state law in case the 'she' next to you is actually a he.

Also, imagine 80% of these business people ringing the bell because their laptops aren't connecting to the service. Imagine that instead a gentle stewardness, a guy named 'Bob' (a hairy computer nerd with a beer gut and beer goggles) comes out to help you!

Rant #2.
As business clientele tries to become more tech savvy, regular stewardesses will be slowly supplanted with geeks. I am sure that a business person who just paid $30 to use the Internet would rather have a techie help him figure out how to connect than a stewardess, right?

So, these regular employees are now being threatened by US, technology people, because OUR jobs have been taken. How funny is that? That's right, you think you can move our jobs? Well, the geeks won't die off, they will just take YOUR JOBS. Then of course, as all stewardesses have become techies, at that point, people will realize that we can replace these american techies with FOREIGN techies picked up in foreign airports in the morning and dropped off in that foreign airport in the evening (for intercontinental flights.) Just like american stewardesses live in america and fly back and forth then go home in America, the foreigners will do the same, but on our planes. We'll just pick them up in their home cities when our planes fly there, and they will end their shift when we land back in their country and they get off. :/

How much fun is that? :)

duty free wi-fi cards (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9110258)

not a bad idea unless they only sell netgear.

They also implemented a lesser known feature (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9110267)

it's pretty dangerous [getacard.com]

Finally an application for Ad-Hoc networks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9110270)

With $30 the entire flight can surf!!!

new quake taunts (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9110285)

I'm on my way to europe to give you a real beating!!!!!

Other airlines? (1)

ASquare (79388) | more than 10 years ago | (#9110308)

Anyone know of any definite plans for other airlines to introduce this service? I'd love it on my next flight over the Pacific!
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