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The Ultimate All-In-One Storage Solution

timothy posted more than 10 years ago | from the if-you-have-to-ask-you-can't-afford dept.

Data Storage 387

karnifex writes "Filled up your LaCie Bigger Disk already, and looking for a little more storage space? Good news! The Petabox is ready! 'The petabox by the Internet Archive is a machine designed to safely store and process one petabyte of information (a petabyte is a million gigabytes).' And luckily, as the Internet Archive notes, it's shipping-container friendly (20' x 8' x 8'). So save on delivery costs and order two!"

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first post i think (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9121795)

woot

BOOYAH (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9121797)

cock smokers

Netcraft Confirms... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9121799)

GNAA is Dying!!! Die Die Die

Can you get one... (2, Funny)

hemp (36945) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121814)

if you still enjoy wearing furs??

Finally (4, Funny)

foidulus (743482) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121801)

My million monkeys at a million terminals will have somewher to save all their potential Shakespeare works.
But the question is, do my monkeys use VI or Emacs? That shall remain a mystery.

Re:Finally (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9121905)

Well, seeing as how monkeys type random gibberish,
vi would seem like a perfect fit, yes?

Re:Finally (1)

Schaffner (183973) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121924)

In that case, TECO would be a better choice.

Re:Finally (1)

MaxiCat_42 (711203) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121977)

Yes, you really need an editor that has a function to retrieve the settings of the front panel switches.

Phil.

Re:Finally (5, Funny)

foidulus (743482) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121961)

A British researcher actually did trap some monkeys inside a room with a computer for a couple days. They flung large amounts of feces at the monitor and keyboard and beat the living crap out of the box, and typed the letter s a lot. Sounds like the response of a typical user upon their first vi experience.

Re:Finally (1)

Rodrin (729362) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121971)

Reminds me of my little cousins when they get to use the computer. Oh the memories. Now lets forget 'em.

Re:Finally (4, Funny)

MaxiCat_42 (711203) | more than 10 years ago | (#9122005)

Sounds like the beginnings of Titus Andronicus.

Re:Finally (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9121954)

Real monkeys use ed. Anything else and its no monkey: it's a damned ape!

Re:Finally (1)

DrLZRDMN (728996) | more than 10 years ago | (#9122000)

I use IMPS [pipex.com]

colossal... (2, Funny)

ambienceman (721763) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121803)

Imagine all the Spice Girls' songs you could save on that thing...wow...

Re:colossal... (4, Funny)

foidulus (743482) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121852)

Don't just stop at songs! Store the DNA sequences for the spice girls on it, such that years from now our decendants may know the joys of Scary Spice.

Re:colossal... (2, Interesting)

ambienceman (721763) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121910)

Yeah and maybe we could clone a few of them (a couple scary and sporty spices) for our own conveniences.....hehe.for singing of course

Re:colossal... (1)

RumpRoast (635348) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121916)

ok, now THATS funny.

The world's ultimate storage (0, Troll)

Cold Winter Days (772398) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121804)

is my ass.

I'd buy one.... (5, Funny)

david_reese (460043) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121812)

but I heard that all you can store on there are
...drumroll

Peta-files

Re:I'd buy one.... (5, Funny)

Smidge204 (605297) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121909)

I heard the FBI managed to squeeze 1000 of these into their annual budget...

Exa-Files.
=simdge=

pedo, not peta (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9122021)

you perverts try to hide your pr0n, but we know what you do with these things...

wrong (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9121815)

1 petabyte is 1,000 gigabytes, not 1,000,000...

Re:wrong (1)

cybermace5 (446439) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121862)

What's a terabyte, then?

Re:wrong (1)

j_hirny (305473) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121866)

Since when? 1Tera is 1,000 Giga and 1Peta is 1,000 Tera.

Re:wrong (1)

ditto999999999999999 (546129) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121867)

No, a terabyte is a thousand gigs, a petabyte is a million.

Re:wrong (3, Funny)

Vihai (668734) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121870)


Wrong :)

One PetaByte is 1,000 TeraBytes which are 1,000,000 GigaBytes wich are 1,000,000,000,000,000 Bytes wich are 3.35 LotsOfPr0n.

Re:wrong (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9121957)

After extensive market research, it has been determined that a "buttload" is roughly 3.5 gigabytes.

In case you were wondering.

It's my favorite unit of measure.

Coincidentally, I have a buttload of porn.

Re:wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9122036)

I have a question, I dont know many americans in real life, and have never had the chance to ask this, were the back to the future films misleading me when they taught me that Yanks pronounce the Giga prefix "Jigger", because if you really walk around saying that to each other in the office, that would rock.

Re:wrong (1)

KevinKnSC (744603) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121871)

Sorry, a terabyte is 1000 gigabytes, and a petabyte is 1000000 gigabytes. The article was correct.

Re:wrong (1)

Smidge204 (605297) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121878)

No... 1,000 Gigabytes is 1 Terabyte. 1,000 Terabytes is one Petabyte. Therefore, 1,000,000 Gigabytes = 1 Petabyte.

Specifically, 1,048,576 GB
=Smidge=

Re:wrong (2, Informative)

Loconut1389 (455297) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121962)

Depends on whether you're talking Pb or PBi.. If i recall with the big HD size debate several months ago, the Gb/Mb are multiples of 1000 whereas GBi/MBi are multiples of 1024.. maybe i have the abbreviations wrong.. but there are separate units for 1024 multiples due to some whacky issue with SI units or something.. does anybody remember the link to that thread?

wrong (1)

ResidntGeek (772730) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121891)

1 petabyte is 1,000 terabytes, not gigabytes...

Re:wrong (1)

ResidntGeek (772730) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121952)

Wow, that was a bit late... stupid dial-up.

Applications (1)

kevmo (243736) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121823)

I can think of a few good applications for this much storage ...

Business idea (2, Interesting)

j_hirny (305473) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121827)

Maybe someone should try to sell these boxes to GMail? They will surely need a lot of storage space.

Price? (1)

llin (54970) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121830)

I didn't notice a price specified. Am I just not seeing it? Anyone in a position to give details?

Re:Price? (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9121863)

If you have to ask, you can't afford it. Just remember that. It might come in handy again someday. :)

Re:Price? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9121899)

This [archive.org] mentions $130k/rack.

Re:Price? (4, Informative)

RollingThunder (88952) | more than 10 years ago | (#9122009)

In the "discussion" blocks down below there's a price link.

Rack materials cost is currently estimated to be $121K for 96TB. Node materials are a just under $1450. This price does not include markup, assembly or burn-in from the system integrator and thus will increase by another 5-7% to approximately $130K/rack.

The weight of a fully-loaded rack is estimated to be 1500 lbs. That figure may rise depending on what hardware is required for rack cooling.

Power is estimated to be 5500 watts. This too will depend on rack level cooling equipment.

These figures assume no external 1G Ethernet NICs.

For a breakdown of all the above, see the attached spreadsheet.

One question... (2, Funny)

Cyno01 (573917) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121834)

How many LOCs/VW Bug?

dongle....? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9121837)

I'm skeptical of any promotional website that uses the word "dongle".

haha... dongle

Petabox is ready! (5, Informative)

KevinKnSC (744603) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121838)

Good news! The Petabox is ready!

From the article:
PILOT STATUS 5/2004
* The first 100TB Rack is up and running!
* The second 100TB Rack will be up by the end of May

Apparently this is some new use of the word "ready" with which I am not familiar. Neat technology, no doubt, but it doesn't really look like it's ready for prime time just yet.

Re:Petabox is ready! (1)

RollingThunder (88952) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121976)

It's not all that usual, true - most "ready" devices these days don't provide even a partial working unit, just finalized specs. ;)

Re:Petabox is ready! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9122051)

Remember: a vote for Bush is a vote for Ashcroft.

And a vote for Kerry is a vote for cheese-eating surrender monkeys!

In 10 years ... (5, Insightful)

Bob Loblaw (545027) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121840)

Will we find one of these things in eBay in 10 years selling for $10 and feel all nostalgic about those days when that amount of storage media was the size of a room?

Hmmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9121841)

How many petadollars does it cost?

Video of american beheading (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9121842)

  1. http://www.ogrish.com/ogrish-dot-com-american_be heading_in_iraq_small.wmv

As I said in the other story (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9122025)

MICROSOFT IS SUPPORTING TERRORISM!

All terrorist videos are encoded in Windows Media format. They are all choppy as shit and you can't see any details at all. This terrorizes me, alright....OF WINDOWS MEDIA FORMAT! Good god, I hope I never meet Windows Media in a dark alley.

Don't get too excited (3, Informative)

42forty-two42 (532340) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121843)

They only have one rack, which is 100 TB.

Re:Don't get too excited (4, Funny)

danormsby (529805) | more than 10 years ago | (#9122011)

Almost a Petabit though.

To give you an idea of how much that truly is: (5, Interesting)

Three Headed Man (765841) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121844)

If you gave me a 100 mbit line, it would take me over 92 days to fill it up with porn. More if I slept.

Re:To give you an idea of how much that truly is: (1)

Bob Loblaw (545027) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121938)

You are obviously a pr0n novice ... true professionals would do it in a fraction of that time.

Re:To give you an idea of how much that truly is: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9122027)

You're both obviously novices. I already have a petabyte of pr0n!

holy cow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9121851)

something that can finally hold all of my porn

Potential customers (4, Funny)

thedillybar (677116) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121853)

"After extensive market analysis, we have found 1 (one) organization that is interested in purchasing this device."

Can we say, Goooooooooooooooogle?

Re:Potential customers (1)

Short Circuit (52384) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121978)

I didn't see throughput stats on the box. I don't know if it'd be all that useful for Google, if the box can't keep up with the load.

Wayback machine (1)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121855)

I find it ironic that the Wayback machine poster is right next to the unit. Do I detect a hidden message? Hmmmm ;)

LaCie disk (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9121858)

ok, what do you do if you want to use that Lacie disk and share it between a system running WInXP and another running OS X or linux?

any ideas?

Re:LaCie disk (1)

isorox (205688) | more than 10 years ago | (#9122044)

fat32, one partition :D

Dupe (0, Offtopic)

Patik (584959) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121859)

Already posted here [slashdot.org] .

Re:Dupe (1)

isorox (205688) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121960)

This story is about 1PB of storage, the Lacie is old news, not a dupe

I am NEVER going to get caught up... (2)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121864)

I swear, I can't keep up. I just got myself up to 1/2 terrabyte and could easily get to a full terrabyte, then this petabyte sh!t comes along.

Ah well, all I'd do is fill it up with Simpsons episodes....

Ummmm (2, Funny)

akira69 (621573) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121865)

20 feet by 8 feet by 8 feet eh.... I thought they had that in the 1970s

Re:Ummmm (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9121963)

"20 feet by 8 feet by 8 feet eh"

In 2010 it better be 1 by 4 by 9.

Finally... (1)

homeobocks (744469) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121869)

...storage large enough that in 4 years, everyone will have the terabyte of secondary memory needed for Longhorn!

And the invoice... (1)

graveyardduckx (735761) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121876)

is faxed to the RIAA/MPAA as soon as your order is confirmed so they know where to start looking.

Sooooo.... (2, Interesting)

Boogaroo (604901) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121877)

Think someone like the government is going to keep track of who buys these things?

Re:Sooooo.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9122019)

That'll be easy, just use a gravitational anomoly detector.

Ahhh... (2, Funny)

10101001011 (744876) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121893)

I just updated my old stone disk (it was erroding) with the latest gerbil in a wheel (I couldn't afford the guinea pig) with awesome seek times (he can seek food in less than 30 nanoseconds) and at least double-digit RPMs.

New Microsoft .NET Solution (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9121901)

oprah.sln [thesmokinggun.com]

Mark this moment (1)

yebb (142883) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121904)

a few years from now when we have pentabyte hard drives selling for less than the cost of visit to the local grocery store. Look back at this article and say, "I remember when..."

Backups (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9121906)

What do I backup my petabox with?

Ohh Good, now I can buy Longhorn (4, Funny)

l0ungeb0y (442022) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121907)

Though it says Linux is the standard OS, I'm hoping they plan on optimizing for Longhorn... so far this is the only system out that can meet Longhorns recommended disk capacity and RAM requirements. ...now if they could only find a way to fit all that into a mini-ATX tower.

LaCie (1)

Short Circuit (52384) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121915)

If you click on the link for the LaCie disk, you'll see, at the bottom of the page, that it won a 4.5 rating at Macworld in June, 2004.

Did I miss a month in there somewhere?

Re:LaCie (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9121994)

That issue is done, but perhaps it isn't for sale yet?

Uber-huge! (1)

Enonu (129798) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121921)

20' x 8' x 8' = 1280 cubic feet!

Jesus, that's more volume than the average room in a house! What year is it, 1984?

two words (4, Interesting)

Loconut1389 (455297) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121926)

Good God.

or alternatively

What for?

At least as far as the next year or two is concerned. RIAA has all but outlawed music on the computer and even so, a petabyte of $1.25 songs would cost you more than bill gates makes in a year. If you have a petabyte of home movies, you must be making porno films.. If you have a petabyte of DVD's ripped, you have several life sentences coming, even if you own all the dvd's somehow (more bill gates salary multiples). And if you have text files, then holy grapes batman, youll never read all that in 10 lifetimes.

I can see uses in the comercial realm, buying multiple units in order to backup. But if this is in anyway marketed toward the consumer, only the biggest 'mine has to be bigger than yours' geek would buy something like that right now. I'll probably have one of those on my desk/floor about 5 to 7 years from now when its affordable/realisitic for me.

Re:two words (1)

periol (767926) | more than 10 years ago | (#9122046)

please. it's called netflix and uncompressed dvd rips.

Not really a Petabyte...yet (4, Insightful)

Berylium (588468) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121927)

From the site:

PILOT STATUS 5/2004
* The first 100TB Rack is up and running!
* The second 100TB Rack will be up by the end of May
* Thermal Targets have been met
* Systems Booted from USB Dongle
* Reiser FS running
* PC-based Router running


Maybe I'm missing something but this looks to me like they don't really have a Petabyte of storage working but plans to incorporate a Petabyte of storage with only 100 TB up and running now. Not that 100 TB is anything to brush off.

one petabyte? (4, Funny)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121934)

one petabyte ought to be good enough for anybody

Hmmmm... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9121936)

I guess I'll buy a couple for my porno collection. Hope it's enough room...

"a million gigabytes"... (0)

TrozPoit (778816) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121937)

"one petabyte of information (a petabyte is a million gigabytes)"

Isn't a petabyte 1,048,576GB? I'm not being pedantic here... that's an extra 48,576GB, afterall.

Re:"a million gigabytes"... (2, Informative)

I confirm I'm not a (720413) | more than 10 years ago | (#9122004)

As always, wikipedia [wikipedia.org] has the answer(s):

Because of irregularities in definition and usage of the kilobyte, the exact number could be any one of the following:
1. 1,125,899,906,842,624 bytes - 10245, or 250. This is 1024 times a terabyte. This is the definition used in computer science and computer programming
2. 1,000,000,000,000,000 bytes - or 10 15.

Damn! Ambiguity!

Re:"a million gigabytes"... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9122034)

No. A petabyte is 1e15 bytes. If you want to be pedantic about it, then true pedantry must acknowledge that in SI, powers-of-two have their own prefixes. You're thinking of a pebibyte. (1 PiByte, which is 1024 TiByte, or 1048576 GiByte, not GByte.)

Here [nist.gov] is a list of the binary prefixes.

Memory is the only component with sizes still commonly quoted with abused powers-of-ten prefixes. (That is, using 1 "kilo" byte meaning 1024 bytes, instead of saying one kibibyte or meaning 1000 bytes.) Hard drives have had sizes quoted in powers of ten for at least a decade.

And to think.. (1)

Rytr23 (704409) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121941)

I was just thinking to myself the other day.. where am I gonna get storage solution that'll give me not only a petabyte of storage but more importantly, is also shipping container friendly? ..will wonders never cease!? How huge is the market for this type of device? I mean seriously.. How many entities were clamoring for this..and how many could they possibly utilize?

To bad it won't last... (5, Insightful)

gremlins (588904) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121945)

I know the pull is to get these things as big as you can get but i would love to see hard drives that will work for ever. Now I know everything breaks but I mean in 400 years how is anyone going to know what we were like if all the data on us slowly goes away because the hard drives or the cds don't really last very long

Re:To bad it won't last... (0, Offtopic)

ezzzD55J (697465) | more than 10 years ago | (#9122032)

Please someone mod this man up, because he's right. :)

That's cool, but..... (1)

j3ll0 (777603) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121955)

will they also supply a petabyte capable backup solution?

I ain't changing the tapes on that thing !!!

Yeah but... (1)

ErichTheWebGuy (745925) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121970)

Does it run Linux? :)

Obligatory refrences: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9121975)

Imagine:

A beowulf cluster, and all the pr0n!

There, done.

Information overload / archival quality? (1)

jeephistorian (746362) | more than 10 years ago | (#9121987)

We're so informtaion heavy, will we need things this huge for acrchiving? How will the important stuff be seperated from the chaff (redundant stuff like /. dupes)?

Fritz

______________

Backups: That's a big stack of DVD-R disks (1)

G4from128k (686170) | more than 10 years ago | (#9122001)

My quick calc suggests that a petabyte would require about 213,000 DVD-R disks at 4.7 GB/disk. At about 1.2 mm/disk, that's a stack about 255 m (837 ft )high.

I don't even want to think about backing this up on a million some-odd CD-Rs. I suspect that the first CD-R would have rotted long before the last CD-R was written.

Aha! (3, Funny)

Dark Lord Seth (584963) | more than 10 years ago | (#9122002)

See? Those Longhorn specs are quite easy to achieve... Now let's sit back and wait for Intel or AMD to come up with a 1x1x1m slab of silicon that can melt graphite and run Longhorn at the same time!

Useless Statistics! (5, Funny)

INMCM (209310) | more than 10 years ago | (#9122008)

1 MILLION GIGS! BAH! That isn't news unless they convert it to some entirely inappropiate metric. How many Library of Congresses is this? How many 128kbps MP3s can you store on it. And most importantly, how many floppy disks is this equivalent too?!

I can see the office manager now... (4, Funny)

stienman (51024) | more than 10 years ago | (#9122013)

Office manager: "Hey, Adam, do you know why our power usage might have gone up this last month?"

I surreptitiously conceal the firewire cable going out the side door.

Adam: "No, John, I haven't the foggiest."

OM: "Ok, well I'll ask Kim when I talk to her about the strange shipping container outside. Thanks."

-Adam

A petabyte here, a petabyte there... (2, Funny)

rikomatic (673311) | more than 10 years ago | (#9122017)

... and pretty soon you're talking REAL storage.

Immortality? (5, Funny)

Sir Nimrod (163306) | more than 10 years ago | (#9122023)

In his novel 3001 Arthur C. Clarke asserted/speculated that one petabyte would be sufficient space to store a lifetime's memories. (He didn't say if this was compressed.)

So, assuming you can handle the trivial exercise of transferring your memories (the implementation of which is left as an exercise for the reader), immortality is yours for the buying!

  1. Transfer memories to Petabox. Sign with your public key, so everyone knows it's you. Don't encrypt!
  2. Put Petabox in shipping container, along with retrieval instructions in English, Esperanto, and Chinese (to cover your bases).
  3. Bury shipping container in Yucca Mountain. (It's unlikely to ever see any nuclear waste, and it'd be a shame to waste the space.)
  4. Kill yourself.
  5. Wait for a society (a) advanced enough to restore you and (b) rich enough to bother.

WoW (1)

nevek (196925) | more than 10 years ago | (#9122039)

Isint it great that in 5 years that will probably all fit onto a disc slightly bigger than a penny.

Hey, at least I didnt say (so much pr0n)

Degaussing Cannon Ready (1)

VanWEric (700062) | more than 10 years ago | (#9122049)

Imagine hitting that with a nice heavy dose of degauss. The resulting random data could possibly be a functioning program... Could we create computer life? You'd need to try and find these programs to get them started, but I bet you could create digital life with this puppy.
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