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Linus Not The Father Of Linux, According to Report

Hemos posted more than 10 years ago | from the fear-uncertaintity-and-doubt dept.

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MrIrwin writes "According to this article on Yahoo, Linus is not the real father of Linux and Open source software is really just code nicked from other sources. " Groklaw has done a dissection of the press release. It's a press release by the Alexis de Toqueville Institution, who gets funding from MSFT, as well as believes that US IT troubles are because of free software. Oh, and terrorism works better because of open source, and the "Star Wars" program was a good idea.

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Seeing as they like history...... (5, Insightful)

MrIrwin (761231) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172629)

.....and seeing as how they have such close ties to MS, perhaps they could run a study as to how Microsoft came to be born.

Re:Seeing as they like history...... (1, Funny)

CoffeeCrusader (660043) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172672)

hmm, probably superman disguised himself as Bill Gates and did it. Thus it is so much better than this Open Source terrorist stuff that's called Linux.

Re:Seeing as they like history...... (5, Insightful)

MrIrwin (761231) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172729)

I was reffereing to the fact that Paul Allen and Bill Gates started Microsoft porting Basic interpreters from a "borrowed" open source base.

Re:Seeing as they like history...... (5, Funny)

2names (531755) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172715)

Does this mean Linus can stop paying child support?

*ducks*

Re:Seeing as they like history...... (2, Funny)

DaHat (247651) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172814)

If his name is on the birth certificate he's still stuck paying regardless of what a paternity test might say.

Re:Seeing as they like history...... (5, Funny)

kryonD (163018) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172724)

Yeah...based on the logic presented in that article, he is going to come to the conclusion that Linux was really the result of a gay marriage between Charles Babbage and Alan Turing.

This is almost as funny as that "5 year study" on the Total cost of ownership of Win2K vs Linux that was released in 2001.

Re:Seeing as they like history...... (3, Interesting)

Liselle (684663) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172737)

Don't stop there. Maybe they could do a study on how obvious bias from independent studies ruin the credibility of legitimate independent studies everywhere. Please excuse the bad grammar in the preceding tongue-twister sentence.

No excuse (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9172819)

Your poor grammar screams out like the boil on a frog's arse.

Re:Seeing as they like history...... (4, Interesting)

southpolesammy (150094) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172742)

And related to the article, perhaps they can also shed light on the "questionable beginnings" of MS Windows [osix.net] .

Re:Seeing as they like history...... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9172794)

This sounds more like it might have come from, "Alex in Toking ville"

Shenanigans (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9172630)

the "Star Wars" program was a good idea.
Is that the one where they destroy all copies of Episode 1 and 2 by firing lasers from satellites orbiting Earth? I still think that's a good idea.

TFA also mentions that Kenneth Brown (braindead author of the book about the study) interviewed RMS, but I fail to see any references to GNU/Linux in the write-up. I call shenanigans. Is it April 1st?

And finally, cheers to Hemos. There five times as many links in the editorial insert than there are in the actual submission. Someone buy this man a beer.

Someone has to say it (5, Funny)

Drathus (152223) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172633)

"No... I am your father!"

Re:Someone has to say it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9172684)

well, son, this is mom and you should have really asked me!

Re:Someone has to say it (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9172692)

Shouldn't that be...

"Bill turns to the OS community and says: 'No... I am you father!'"

Re:Someone had to quote (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9172767)

Darth Vader [fallenjedi.com] .

Re:Someone has to say it (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9172795)

In Soviet Russia, Darth Vader's father is YOU!

Re:Someone has to say it (5, Funny)

callipygian-showsyst (631222) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172806)

Use the SOURCE, Luke!

Linux is Minix (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9172634)

And Minix is Tannenbaum's.

QED.

No need for PJ and her slavering minions to dissect this one, it's already cut and dried.

In keeping with the motif here (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9172678)

Mod me down and I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine!

Some help (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9172770)

Linus admits that he based his OS on Minix. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds [wikipedia.org]

Linux started out as a Minix clone. Though it is more than that now, it's roots lie much closer to Andy Tannenbaum than they do to the Finn.

What a farce. (5, Interesting)

grub (11606) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172637)


Read to the bottom of the article:
Brown's study is part a book he is writing on open source software and operating systems. Excerpts from the book will be published at www.adti.net on May 20, 2004.
That says it all. Inflammatory statements preceding the release of a new book. This latest FUD is nothing more than a book promotion in the guise of a press release.

Re:What a farce. (5, Interesting)

yo303 (558777) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172760)

To this day, we have a serious attribution problem in software development because people have chosen to scrupulously borrow or imitate Unix

The author even contradicts himself, as to the motive of open source programmers. Perhaps he meant unscrupulous.

yo.

Re:What a farce. (5, Insightful)

swordboy (472941) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172802)

The article lost all credibility when they used the word, "invent" to describe the process by which software is created.

Software is developed, not invented. This is also one of the main reasons that the patent world is all screwed up.

Oh well...

Facts not farce (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9172807)

That is still nothing as compared to the cosntant, unrelenting and massive FUD that spews out of the open source community against Microsof ever single second of every single of every year.
You Linux clowns are the ayatoulahs of FUD.Its time you learnt to take as much as you dish out.
Meanwhile, I haven't seen anyone here actually indicate that they have read this report in full or the book that is coming out, or even actually come close to challenging the well researched facts that Brown brings up.
Instead, like the open source nuts that you are, you decide to attack at will, and shoot the messanger with wanton abandon.
That just won't wash.

Linus Torvalds should sue the author (4, Interesting)

FreeUser (11483) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172808)

Linus Torvalds should sue the author for libel and defamation of character (and extend it to slander if the author is making oral statements publicly).

This is not only obviously false (and easilly provable), it is likely that it can be shown that anyone purporting to write a book on the subject (free software) should have had enough brain cells to rub together to do a modicum of background research that conclusively demonstrates what they are saying is false (groklaw for starters, fsf, eff, etc.).

Any profits from this libelous publication should go to the injured parties: Linus, whose professional reputation has been viciously besmirched.

uh.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9172638)

so linus isnt on 'teh spoke'?

BLASPHEMY! (5, Funny)

imidazole2 (776413) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172639)

Thou shalt be excommunicated from the church of *nix!

This is old news (1, Funny)

foidulus (743482) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172641)

Everybody knows that Cowboy Neal is the real father of open source. Come on, get with the times!

Do me a favor (3, Funny)

AtariAmarok (451306) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172734)

Do us all a favor. If you happen to have candid photos of the conception, do not post them here.

Illegitimate (0)

ChronoWiz (709439) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172647)

Linux is a bastard child!? I shall disown him from my house immediately!

damn microsoft! (-1, Troll)

technoCon (18339) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172651)

for blackening the name of the one Frenchman who doesn't suck

Re:damn microsoft! (-1, Offtopic)

Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172708)

for blackening the name of the one Frenchman who doesn't suck

I say NI to you! Your mother was a hamster, and your father smells of elderberries. Fetchez la vache. FETCHEZ LA VACHE!

-- A. de Toqueville, addressing the silly Linux knnnn-iggits

Re:damn microsoft! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9172721)

Cool, then France has the advantage of 1 person over America. All Americans suck - cold donkey balls, that is.

Re:damn microsoft! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9172752)

i prefer mine warm

Re:damn microsoft! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9172815)

You Sir are the perfect example of why the Slashdot subscription is considered an idiot's tax by most everybody (but subscribers): why would anybody pay to post such idiocies and be rightfully modded down, when they can do it for free?

You're also the proof that old-timers on Slashdot can be just as stupid as late-model 77x.xxx Slashdroids, only slightly older and with a bigger beer belly.

My initial reaction? (5, Insightful)

SocietyoftheFist (316444) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172655)

Acutal out loud laughter. I don't think that I need any more proof that Microsoft feels very threatened when I see puff pieces like this.

"New Study" (4, Insightful)

thedillybar (677116) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172658)

Let's face it, if you're funding one of the thousands of "new studies" going on, you can always make the result turn in your favor. If it's not, throw that study away and have someone else do it.

There are so many studies on the same topics that the public never hears about, what good is the information in the few that the media choose to cover?

we all know (2, Funny)

parpwacker (778293) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172659)

all the code originated from SCO ! we should thank darl for our OS...

Finally! (2, Funny)

mnemonic_ (164550) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172660)

"Oh, and terrorism works better because of open source, and the "Star Wars" program was a good idea."

Finally, a man I can agree with!

Linus not Father of Linux... (5, Funny)

wviperw (706068) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172661)

Yeah, and Gates is not the father of the BSOD.

Re:Linus not Father of Linux... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9172754)

Bastard Son Of Death?

I was kinda drunk that night (2, Funny)

3.5 stripes (578410) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172662)

Now it's installed on all my servers...

I have to know!!!

Who's my baby's daddy?!?!?!??

Re:I was kinda drunk that night (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9172730)

YES

It's gotta be Darl (5, Funny)

AtariAmarok (451306) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172663)

Isn't Darl McBride the true father of Linux? This is why he wants his $699. Effective immediately, Linux will be renamed to Darlsux.

Re:It's gotta be Darl (4, Interesting)

JaredOfEuropa (526365) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172762)

Isn't Darl McBride the true father of Linux? This is why he wants his $699
Funny, but the claims in this press release are much like SCO's claims: "Linus used stolen code in Linux! No, I'm not going to tell you which lines of codes he stole exactly, but I assure you they are there!". Only their money-spinning schemes differ. Darl says: "I own the stolen code and you owe me $699", whereas Brown says: "Buy my book to learn more".

By the way,Darl is becoming more and more like that paperboy from Better off dead. "I - want - my - 2 dollars!!!". I wonder if he will meet a similar fate in the end?

AdTI: -1 Troll (5, Insightful)

Xipe66 (587528) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172666)

They're obviously trolling. Don't feed.

Tired of April 1st jokes... (1)

perdelucena (455667) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172667)

Fri May 14, 5:49 PM ET. I think this guy smokes crack or works for Micro$oft or SCO...

What I don't understand.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9172673)

It's a press release by the Alexis de Toqueville Institution, who gets funding from MSFT, as well as believes that US IT troubles are because of free software. Oh, and terrorism works better because of open source, and the "Star Wars" program was a good idea.

What I don't understand is why they didn't also mention that Al Gore was the Father of the Internet. How could they have missed something this significant?

(Yes... it's a joke ::grinz::)

Strawman.. (5, Insightful)

k98sven (324383) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172674)

Interesting how the whole report seems to be one big straw-man argument.
(i.e. claiming the other is saying something they're not, and then showing that it is false)

Their straw-man seems to be the idea (which noone, of course, has claimed) that Linux somehow was created in a vacuum.

From there they proceed to show how Linux was (*shock*) a clone of Unix!
(Probably leaving out the fact that there are literally dozens of them.)

in other news... (-1, Offtopic)

binarybum (468664) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172679)

the world is flat and president Bush is a Mensa card holder.

Re:in other news... (-1, Troll)

CoolMoDee (683437) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172772)

if bush held a mensa card..well that just dosn't say very much for the top 2% of the populatino now does it...

Here's the real father of *BSD (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9172683)

Here is a photo of the real father of *BSD [ousu.org] . He now works at a major university.

RMS never told you what happened to your father (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9172687)

Linux : "He told me enough! He told me UCB lost the important court cases"
Darl Vader : "No Linux! I am your father. Search your feelings. You know this to be true"

Fah. No one's gonna take... (1, Funny)

FFFish (7567) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172688)

...an organization named "de Toqueville" seriously. Toqueville? WTF? City of knit caps? Geddouddahere.

Re:Fah. No one's gonna take... (1)

Analogy Man (601298) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172725)

Is it just North of Margaritaville?

Re:Fah. No one's gonna take... (-1, Offtopic)

radja (58949) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172736)

knit caps? in dutch, it's a jockstrap...

Re:Fah. No one's gonna take... (1, Funny)

Shoten (260439) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172763)

Actually, the correct spelling would be "Tokeville," to reflect a key component of their research methodology For obvious reasons they didn't get that right either.

Publicity Stunt (4, Insightful)

lukewarmfusion (726141) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172693)

The Yahoo! article ends with a mention about this guy's (from AdTI) upcoming book. It sounds to me as if his claims are nothing more than a publicity stunt, generating interest in his book.

SDI notwithstanding... (2, Interesting)

penginkun (585807) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172694)

These guys are nuts. And SDI was/is a good idea. Unless they're talking about the movies, which, IMO, aren't really that great. I mean, the first one was fun, but I could have lived without the others.

And talk about awful? Don't even get me started on the books. Crap, utter crap to a one, with the possible exception of Zahn's original trilogy.

And Microsoft sucks.

Linus wrecked my $4000 Dell (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9172695)

and raped my daughter and my dog too.

FUD not a serious threat to Linux at this stage (-1, Troll)

Debian Troll's Best (678194) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172697)

While this type of story may cause some initial alarm, it is hardly likely to cause any real damage to either Linux or the Open Source community. It is widely acknowledged (even by Linus himself) that the Linux kernel is due to the efforts of a wide group of contributors. A story trying to make it seem like Linus 'didn't do it all himself' is hardly going to shock anyone who is remotely familiar with the workings of the Linux community. Most likely this story will backfire in the faces of those perpetrating it, namely, the Alexis de Toqueville Institute, and it's backers, Microsoft.

This type of ill-informed FUD has been used in the past against the open source community without much real effect. For example, in 1999, a small group of anonymous users started posting extensively to the Debian discussion groups, claiming that Bruce Perens and Ian Murdoch actually used RPM on their Debian boxes to perform package administration, instead of apt-get, (which they also claimed was contaminated with IP belonging to an un-named x86 Unix vendor). The whole aim was to discredit these high profile individuals and have them forcibly removed from the Debian project. However, the whole scam backfired about 2 weeks later when the Debian list server admin revealed that the offending posts had originated from Red Hat's own network, and in fact were being sent directly from Bob Young's personal workstation, where he had concocted an apt-get driven script which automatically spammed the Debian mailing lists with pro-RPM FUD. Bob later admitted his part in the scheme in a Linux World interview in 2002, admitting that he had used a modified apt-get to "install packages of anti-Perens propaganda on the Debian mailing list server", and quoting "the superior ability of apt-get to deal with flamebait and troll dependencies over our own RPM tool". That particular story had a happy ending for the Debian commnunity fortunately, as Bruce Perens went on to have a highly successful career at HP, working as a LInux advocate.

Linus Not The Father Of Linux (2, Insightful)

glMatrixMode (631669) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172703)

>Linus Not The Father Of Linux

of course. by the way :
War Is Peace
Freedom is Slavery

Obligatory Al Gore Joke (2, Funny)

MesiahTaz (122415) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172705)

Al Gore invented Linux, duh.

Sounds more like MS/DOS (2, Informative)

supersnail (106701) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172706)

Which was cobbled together form the CP/M operating system and rebranded by an up and coming business guy.

He also admits to reading the assembly listings from for DEC Basic before writing his own completely original Basic interpreter.

I do wish this "institute" was based in France where it is illegal to falsify history.

I'm not even going to bother. (1)

JoeBaldwin (727345) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172707)

Why is anybody paying attention to this? It's just wrong. WRONG WRONG WRONG.

To be as nice as I can, he's talking out his asscrack. He's making satirists completely obsolete by doing their work for them. He's spewing the new kind of FUD: "FUcking Dumbarsed bullshit that is wrong on an infinite number of levels".

I think I need a lie down.

Of course ... (2, Funny)

ciupman (413849) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172709)

... DNA tests are already on the way to contradict those pesky and false allegations... He surely must be the father

This article is dead-on... (2, Funny)

SmoothriderSean (657482) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172713)

and I know because the version of "hello world" that's been shipping with Debian since 3.0 is virtually identicle to the one I slaved over five years ago. damn linux hippies...

Star Wars (2, Funny)

dorward (129628) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172716)

> the "Star Wars" program was a good idea.

Just wait 20 years, we'll get Linux FUD Special Edition.

Pointless Political Blathering... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9172718)

Oh, and terrorism works better because of open source, and the "Star Wars" program was a good idea

Any chance we can keep the pointless blathering out of the article descriptions? This article has Nothing to do with the Star Wars program (which isn't the same missle defense program we have now). If any article was submitted with similar bias to the right, I'm sure it would be rejected. I come here for "News for nerds" not "News for Nerds with communist leanings". Thx.

Not Us... (1)

AgtSmith (738147) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172728)

"De Tocqueville Institute president Ken Brown and chairman Gregory Fossedal refused to comment on whether Microsoft sponsored the report." "No..they didn't give us any money to make MS look better"..., hell give me 1.2 Million for research and I say MS is stable and then invest the money in my Beowulf cluster....

I guess this begs the question.... (0, Offtopic)

b12arr0 (3064) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172733)

Who's your daddy?

Twisting (2, Insightful)

XMyth (266414) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172735)

Seeing how he interviewed Stallman, Ritchie and others, he will probably try and twist their words to defend his argument by saying all Linus did was copy an existing Unix clone to build a functioning kernel and other people contributed everything else. Which is essentially common knowledge anyways...I don't see how that detracts from the credit he should get for his ongoing work on Linux.

Someone's Gotta say it. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9172740)

Who's your Daddy?

then again... (5, Funny)

Ryosen (234440) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172741)

and the "Star Wars" program was a good idea

...but not the "Christmas on Endor" version.

Remember.... (1)

Savage-Rabbit (308260) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172747)

... downloading Linux is downloading COMMUNISM!

Shees! It sounds like the hard inner core of conservatve crackpots have finally discovered a replacement for Saddam Hussein....

Hemos (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9172750)

Save your political ideas for your circle of friends. This is terrible journalism.

Short Summary..... (5, Funny)

idfrsr (560314) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172761)


As far as I can tell, the true father of Linux is in fact Al Gore. He invented it shortly after his fledgling idea of a net-inter caught on and became what we know now as the internet. It was originally called Alix, but had to be renamed due to copyright issues involving a book [adti.net] about wonderland....

Everyone knows the real father of Linux (2, Funny)

incuso (747340) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172765)

SCO!

M.
--
Numismatica [altervista.org]

De Tocqueville (5, Insightful)

colmore (56499) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172768)

De Tocqueville was a late French Enlightenment writer who traveled America and wrote in praise of American civil society, as opposed to French (which after having just gone throught the first revolution, and the dictatorship of Napolean, was looking pretty shitty.)

Anyway, it's way too early in the morning for me to pull out a page reference, but one of the major themes in his _Democracy in America_ is that American society functions well due to the large number of volunteer organizations that Americans joined in, fire departments, sewing circles, sports clubs, free publications and that sort of thing. These things raise community awareness, and allow the democratic process to work, since he believed that it would fall apart if all democracy was was everyone voting their own pocketbook.

Anyway, I'd say the Free Software movement in America is certainly a continuation of that civic spirit.

My stock! (3, Funny)

peawee03 (714493) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172769)

OH, so I suppose this will tank my stock in Linux. :-P

OK, so first of all, wasn't the GNU project underway by the time Linux was written, thus making RMS much more of the "Father"?

In addition, according to the article: "Brown suggests the invention of Unix is an integral part of the Linux story," but isn't that the point of a Unix-like OS developed for the PC?

Oh, wait. I'm supposed to buy in to FUD tactics.

lawsuite anyone? (1)

sumdumass (711423) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172771)

can this be enough grounds for a slander or liable suite? or does it reach that point

Rated a 1.3 out of 5 (2, Insightful)

tburt11 (517910) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172773)

Notice that this story is currently rated a 1.3 with 49 votes counted. On a scale of 1 to 5. Not many people get fooled by this drivel. But unfortunately, some people use this to support their arguments that MS is good, and Linux is bad.

Mods? (4, Insightful)

slycer9 (264565) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172777)

Mod story -1 Troll.

Jesus Christ, posted on the front page of /. for chrissakes.

Next story::
Tinfoil hats, snazzy wardrobe accessory or anti-M$oft mind-control device?

Or::
Bill Gates wants to control your fridge with NT4.0.

[/rant]

Defense (1)

BenBenBen (249969) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172782)

If only there were some [ibm.com] large [novell.com] organisations [army.mil] who'd stand up for Linux when this kind of crap came out. That's the trouble with having no shareholders - no-one to start litigation.

MS makes terrorism easy! (1, Funny)

Ratso Baggins (516757) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172784)

The only case I'm aware of terrorists using "software" as apart of their "plans" was the 911 pilots triaining on MS Flight Sim... wtf!?

hmm (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9172786)

why was star wars a bad idea? it was a factor that led to the fall of the soviet union.

Inventor (1)

neilmoore67 (682829) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172788)

What relevance is there to say that someone is the "inventor" of Linux since Linux is not an invention.

If they had said that Linus Torvalds is not the "originator", "creator", "maintainer" or suchlike of Linux then there would be something to argue about.

What if you had to come up with something completely original to get any credit for it?

Invent: To produce or contrive (something previously unknown) by the use of ingenuity or imagination.

Now we know why SCO's going away (4, Insightful)

Trailer Trash (60756) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172790)

I've wondered aloud why Microsoft had pulled the rug out from underneath SCO, and now it's obvious. They're going to start using these idiots, and probably others, to spread the same stupid message.

Get used to it, folks, it's not going to get any better anytime soon. That's good news, too, since the credibility of this sort of stuff has been mostly destroyed by Darl's loud mouth.

Actually... (1, Funny)

91degrees (207121) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172792)

Lunux was created by Xerox labs. Linus toured the labs, and memorized some key lines of code. In order to obfuscate the origin, he renamed it Linux, and released it under the GPL.

Posix compliant OS - anyone??? (1)

Lodragandraoidh (639696) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172797)

What a bunch of cow manure...the specification for a POSIX compliant operating system existed long before Linux came on the scene - and is the basis of it.

The POSIX standard is an open standard that is the basis of many operating systems or parts of operating systems (in the case of Windoze). It was established to allow interoperability between systems that adhered to the standard.

This 'report' is nothing but slander and lies. Lawyers representing those individuals who were slandered should pin this so-called 'foundation' and its questionable 'fellows' to the wall.

FUD...

Libel case ? (0)

Jesrad (716567) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172798)

I know it would be more food for the troll (and SCO case), I know Linus is not quite the irritable guy, but couldn't he sue the Alexis de Toquevill Institution for libel ?

Obvious problem (5, Insightful)

tonythepony (716819) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172799)

While you cannot group all open source programmers and programs together; many are rigorous and respectful of the intellectual property rights, while others speak of intellectual property rights with open contempt.

Here's one immediate problem with the way this guy thinks - the two groups of programmers he mentions are not mutually exclusive as he implies. One can speak out about the problems with IP rights and still be respectful and careful about not violating them.

Please cut the political bullcrap (2, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9172800)

Esp about Star Wars. It's well known that SDI wasn't a serious program, but a big straw man program that scared the Soviets into building up their own program, resulting in the bankruptcy of the Eastern Block. SDI was the decisive event in winning the Cold War.

Well of Course He's Not (0, Offtopic)

dbretton (242493) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172804)


Al Gore is!

This must mean that .... (-1, Offtopic)

mldqj (779952) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172810)

Linus is actually the father of Windows! Too sad ...

Drrrrr..... (-1, Offtopic)

Deaden (649643) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172811)

That article made me dumber.

humm.. DOS?? MS?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9172816)

Yea... and the code for the original MS dos came from a garbage can..

most of the people who ever used it wished it had stayed there..

Unfortunately it's trashy tradition lives on.

Yeah, but... (-1, Offtopic)

BenBenBen (249969) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172821)

We can't trust them, they sound a bit... French.

The road goes both ways (4, Interesting)

LordDartan (8373) | more than 10 years ago | (#9172822)

I think it's far more likely that open source coded is in closed source software. Since open souce, by defintion, is open for all to see, wouldn't companies have lawsuits (SCO excluded) over their stolen code? Since nobody can see the code to closed software, I think it's far more likely that open source code has been taken to be used in closed source software (since nobody that isn't involved in the project will be able to see it).
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