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Hollywood Courting the Gaming Industry

michael posted more than 9 years ago | from the bullet-time dept.

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beatleadam writes "In a trend that we all seem to already be hyper-aware of... 'The video game industry was once an afterthought in Hollywood, at most an ancillary source of revenue like action figures. The people passionately developing the computer-based form of entertainment were seen as dorks compared with the celebrities. Not anymore. Now that games have matured into a $11 billion business, topping movie box-office sales and siphoning television viewers, the lucrative and increasingly influential genre has attracted more star power than ever.'" We did another story about this a month ago.

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zork? (5, Funny)

justforaday (560408) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188513)

when are they gonna make a movie based on zork? and i'm not talking fancy graphics or effects or anything. i wanna see huge text printed up on screen for two hours...

Re:zork? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9188560)


Just watch a loop of any movie's credits.

zork is so goth (1)

kewsh (655090) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188570)

I'm not a goth. Many goths say this, but I'm really not one. Well, OK, I wear black. And I like goth music. And regularly go to goth clubs. Argh, and I've been known to wear silly goth outfits when I go. But I'm still not a goth.

Re:zork is so goth (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9188635)

you're right that wouldn't make you goth.

thats like saying the 5cr1pt k1dd135 are hackers.

Re:zork? (1)

lukewarmfusion (726141) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188747)

It would be like watching the opening to Star Wars for two hours (edited for content, edited to fit your television, edited for time)...

Re:zork? (1)

elviscious (681985) | more than 9 years ago | (#9189044)

I'm thinking the movie for 'Pong' might be a little more exciting. All those special effects and graphics would make an awesome movie.

China people need more Western games! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9188517)


Hello, my name is Xiang, a resdent of China. I cannot use last name the goverment watch us and will put me in camp if they find me writing this.

China government make American games illegal. It say causes bad thinks among China people. My friend Chiang was caught with American games and put in labor camp. I miss Chiang.

In fact dr. Yu-Yee, famos scientis say that Chinese people need more American games. he was found by goverment and put in camp like Chiang. I wonder if it same camp as Chiang. they can maybe I be in camp together making happy electronoc for western people. be happy! maybe your mouse or keyboard made by dr Yu-Yee or Chiang. I miss Chiang.

dr Yu-Yee miss to but not as much as Chiang. He and me would go hunt duck with stones! Not hit many but still hunting. In fact we hit no duck, but still call it hunting! One time Chiang throw rock at duck and it hit tree and bounce and hit Chiang in face! hahaha! I miss Chiang.

then goverment worker from Ministry of Rocks see us and chase us! we got away but good thing or we be in camp for 3 year for Rock Abuse Re-education. Maybe that where Chiang is in camp for.. maybe not for wanting American games. I miss Chiang.

PS: excuse my english, not normal language to me.

- Xiang

Courting? (5, Interesting)

SpaceCadetTrav (641261) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188520)

More like absorbing.

Game makers.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9188563)

Great, now software companies are going to get touchy about copying "THEIR" intellectual property...... Wait.., thats where it started....

Re:Game makers.... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9188637)

Games definitely were the beginning from what I remember. Those early games with the code wheels and the "photocopy proof" code sheets. And then there were the gold box AD&D games with their "Find the 5th word on page 47 under Anal Penetration"

Re:Courting? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9188590)

I assume you are saying that the gaming industry is absorbing the movie industry because one is on the way up and the other on the way down. Gaming has already passed the music industry and the movie industry is next to go.

Re:Courting? (1)

SpaceCadetTrav (641261) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188630)

The movie industry is run by much larger "media" companies. I haven't seen any video game companies become media conglomerates yet, although I have seen media companies buy gaming enterprises.

Re:Courting? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9188729)

Those days are gone my friend. Those media conglomerates are struggling. Vivendi (who bought Blizzard) has had tons of problems. With $3B in revenue, EA doesn't need to be a media conglomerate. Their selling power will make the studios come begging to be involved with their games.

Re:Courting? (1)

SpaceCadetTrav (641261) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188847)

$3B is only 10% of the yearly revenue of the weakest of the top five media companies. It's not peanuts, but I don't think "begging" is the right term.

Re:Courting? (5, Insightful)

Total_Wimp (564548) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188923)

Yeah, we need some more boring, crappy games based on movies and boring, crappy movies based on games so people will get jaded about the games and the industry will go into recession like it did post-Atari. Then maybe the people that are in it for the glitz instead of the games will go find something else to do.

What would we have gotten if Atari had continued to dominate back-in-the-day? More Atari 2600 Pac-Man probably. That brief recession allowed us to get the NES. Cool upgrade, eh? But,now we're getting yet another stupid James Bond game on PS-2. It needs to die so people will at least try to reinvent gaming into something better instead of continuing to push hollywoodfied, star-studded crap.

TW

"and siphoning television viewers" (5, Funny)

Black Parrot (19622) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188523)


Sounds like a threat to our precious bodily fluids!

Re:"and siphoning television viewers" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9188786)

And I bet you're one of those deviated preverts!

Re:"and siphoning television viewers" (1)

nacturation (646836) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188875)

Sounds like a threat to our precious bodily fluids!

Actually, it sounds more like this guy [dailyrecord.co.uk].

Re:"and siphoning television viewers" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9189084)

Your sig is retarded. Read the moderations FAQ. No one gets karma for +1 funny mods.

Thank God... (5, Funny)

darth_MALL (657218) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188531)

Now Bruce Campbell and Mark Hamill will get the recognition they sorely deserve.

Re:Thank God... (3, Interesting)

Killjoy_NL (719667) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188655)

I loved Mark Hamill in the Wing Commander series, he did some brilliant acting in there, better than in Star Wars in my opinion (I know, it's not really a fair comparison since Mark had a lot more acting experience during the Wing Commander Series)

Re:Thank God... (2, Interesting)

MBCook (132727) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188766)

I know what you mean. Games can have an effect. I still hate Malcolm McDowell because to me he will always be the villan in Wing Commander III (or was it IV? Probably IV).

Those were great games.

Re:Thank God... (3, Interesting)

Killjoy_NL (719667) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188888)

Exactly, the end speech Colonel Blair (Hamill) gives at the end of part IV (that's the one you mean) gave me goosebumps.

And McDowell hanging himself in that ending just showed the real cowardice of the character he was playing.

I think that game came as close as you could come to an interactive movie, even letting you choose what to say during talks and happenings outside (shooting aliens/enemies, choosing which wingman with whom to fly) influencing the story and the way your comrades look at you.

Again: I loved that game

Re:Thank God... (1)

IANAAC (692242) | more than 9 years ago | (#9189071)

Don't forget Tia Carrera in the Daedalus Encounter. What was making her laugh through all her lines anyway?

F1r5t P05t!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9188536)

W00t!!! Two in one day!!!

If only it were this easy to get a life!

Re:F1r5t P05t!!! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9188611)

YOU FAIL IT!

If it were only that easy to kill l4m3r5 trying to get teh fr15t p50t.

Oh dear god... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9188539)

I don't see this lasting too long. The "Van Helsing", "Spider Man", and "X-Men" video games are weak, and get horrible reviews.

Why doesn't Disney just fund companies like id or epic games so they can have more developers who can turn around games quicker, create better engines, etc

Re:Oh dear god... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9188610)


Hello, my name is Xiang and I live in China. China people cannt get those movie you list. Goverment not want us watching western movie too much. Give us "crazy" idea is what they say. Not true, movie cannt make you crazy but goverment lie to us. is Spider Man good movie? I try to find on computer network maybe if good movie.

pardon my english, not my originl langage.

Re:Oh dear god... (4, Funny)

WormholeFiend (674934) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188745)

"Why doesn't Disney just fund companies like id or epic games so they can have more developers who can turn around games quicker, create better engines, etc"

Good idea! Just like Vivendi did with Valve...

Re:Oh dear god... (2, Insightful)

baudilus (665036) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188911)

Everyone knows that true "gamehouses" value quality over deadlines. Imagine waiting for that new "Chronicles of Riddick" game for over a year because of release date pushbacks....

Re:Oh dear god... (2, Informative)

tgibbs (83782) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188859)

I don't see this lasting too long. The "Van Helsing", "Spider Man", and "X-Men" video games are weak, and get horrible reviews.

The Playstation Spider-Man game got good reviews and the PS2 sequel got fairly good reviews. The Capcom X-Men fighting games were extremely popular and got good reviews.

Re:Oh dear god... (4, Interesting)

Total_Wimp (564548) | more than 9 years ago | (#9189062)

They problem is written right in the article. They call this stuff "content". I cringe whenever I read that word. The term is hopelessly entangled with people trying to sell you stuff you weren't looking to buy instead of you seeking out something because you want to buy it.

Writers write, directors direct and game designers design games. If they look interesting to you, you buy them. Only assholes "generate content." and then try to convince you to buy it whether it's interesting or not.

TW

BTW, speaking of content, remember when internet people were busy trying to generate it? You don't hear about that much anymore do you? AOL was the biggest culprit and, not surprisingly, the biggest loser as a result.

Sims movie (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9188541)

What's really scary is that some huge percentage of that $11B is EA. They already have sports stars all over the place and it would be interesting to see how they incorporate Hollywood stars into games like Sims. Even more scary would be a Sims movie which if it is half as boring as the game it should make a ton of money.

Re:Sims movie (2, Interesting)

SmackCrackandPot (641205) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188780)

EA signs exclusive contracts with sports stars, so that they can only appear in EA games.

It would be trickier with a movie star. Would you force them to sign an exclusive deal just to allow EA to use their likeness, or would they be able to license their likeness to other publishers. Would the image only cover a particular set of clothes/hairstyle or would it cover all possibilities?

It's already there (1)

narftrek (549077) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188874)

I recall seeing Drew Carrey show up during Sims parties to entertain the guests. Not only that but Christina Aguilara and Marilyn Monroe show up to sign autographs at parties since this last expansion pack. Then there are the HUNDREDS of celebrity skins you can add--all non-officially licensed mind you--but still making it one of the reasons the game is so damned popular.

Great (4, Insightful)

grasshoppa (657393) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188555)

That's just what I play video games to see:

Stuck up "actors" I don't like doing their normal piss-poor job of acting on high budget, yet poorly designed ( technologically and cinamantically ) games that I will never play, opting for net hack.

Further, let's turn a cheezy game into a movie! Yeah, it'll be slop, so people will pay us MILLIONS to bad mouth it.

And you know what? We will. At the end of the day, the execs know that we will fork over our cash for crap because we are told to do so.

In closing, let me leave you with this thought: Moo.

Re:Great (4, Interesting)

Sean80 (567340) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188683)

I think the parent does have some merit though. I think the reality is that often what makes a good movie doesn't necessarily make a good game. I pretty much think, for example, that the "film" versions of Doom 3 will fall flat on its face, unless it's like those "inspired by" soundtracks, that, er, have nothing to do with anything.

Fundamentally, computer games and movies are such different mediums - games are obviously all about interaction and using your brain (somewhat), while movies are about sitting back and eating popcorn, maybe throwing an arm around a lovely lass, and so forth.

I think what they're really doing here is utilizing name branding. Wow, that Day After Tomorrow movie was really good. Oh, there's a game named that too? Perhaps it'll be good too. By the time you figure out it sucks, there's $50 down the drain.

Re:Great (1)

justforaday (560408) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188989)

By the time you figure out it sucks, there's $50 down the drain.

and don't forget the 20-30 bucks you threw at the movie. all in all, the franchise will have made 70-100 bucks off of you [assuming you have kids]...

Re:Great (1)

happyfrogcow (708359) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188691)

In closing, let me leave you with this thought: Moo.

Moo! is right.

Can we expect game prices to rise with hollywood stars on the credits? probably

More bad movie? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9188566)

Do we really need more bad movies? Are there any GOOD movies based on video games?

Re:More bad movie? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9188636)

Man alive, there's a whole HOST of 'em! Why there's National Lampoons Pac Man, and of course Mario Brothers join the Mob. Oh, and who could forget the ever-popular Dig-Dug goes to Jail!

Re:More bad movie? (3, Informative)

astrokid (779104) | more than 9 years ago | (#9189012)

Your definition of good may very but I thought that Resident Evil and Mortal Kombat were entertaining movies. Heres a short list: http://archive.gamespy.com/top10/january03/movies/ index.shtml Notice how it goes down hill very quickly.

We did another story about this a month ago. (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9188574)

So why the hell are you doing it again?

Sheesh

interactive content (3, Insightful)

musikit (716987) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188586)

some games aren't really games.. more like interactive content sold for $50.

MHO is that hollywood is seeing the dollars. you make a bunch of CGI movies or even real movie like ROTK and TTT and you add some animated version of the main hero that you control doing some punching/sword swinging and they get $50 for their DVD/Movie vs $15-$30 for their movie.

Re:interactive content (2, Insightful)

sckeener (137243) | more than 9 years ago | (#9189011)

MHO is that hollywood is seeing the dollars. you make a bunch of CGI movies or even real movie like ROTK and TTT and you add some animated version of the main hero that you control doing some punching/sword swinging and they get $50 for their DVD/Movie vs $15-$30 for their movie.

yeah, but hopefully you'll get more than 2 hours of enjoyment out of the game.

My fear is when real high speed broadband is every where. Then I think video games and movies will be on a pay per play/view system.

Imagine $$$$/month forever because they've linked your cable, internet, home security,phone and your video games into one providor.

Revival of careers? (0, Redundant)

ErikTheRed (162431) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188591)

Next thing you know, Mark Hamill will be in major demand based on the Wing Commander series...

Re:Revival of careers? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9188699)


Karma should be measured by positive moderation done to replies to your posts.

That would require Taco buy a Perl book.

Re:Revival of careers? (1)

Obasan (28761) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188959)

I still would like to know who the lunatics were who funded the godawful script of the Wing Commander motion picture to the tune of $30M as I recall.

I went to see that in the theater with friends knowing full well it would be bad. When we arrived there was a sign on the box office that said ( I am not kidding ) : "NO REFUNDS FOR WING COMMANDER". At this point we knew what we were going into.

We had a very good time... we (and a number of other people in the theater) were mocking it out loud and you know what, NOBODY CARED. Our own live MST3k.

That which doesn't kill you only makes you stronger... :P

Sounds about right (2, Funny)

Vinnie_333 (575483) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188594)

The "Van Helsing", "Spider Man", and "X-Men" video games are weak, and get horrible reviews

So, they followed the movies pretty closely then, you say!

Does this mean we'll get to see (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9188598)

Counter-Strike: The Motion Picture?

Of course if they play the movie too loud in the theater the next movie over will accuse it of wallhacking.

Re:Does this mean we'll get to see (3, Funny)

MBCook (132727) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188811)

That's just what people want to see. Some idiot camping for 2 hours in a corner. Where's the action? The drama? The suspense?

I'm hoppin' for "Frogger: The Musical"!

(man I hope no Hollywood exec reads this. I was kidding, OK. KIDDING!)

Re:Does this mean we'll get to see (1)

loutr (626763) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188830)

Yes [cine-courts.com](well, almost anyway, it seems the site has'nt been updated since 2001...)

hate to break it to you (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9188599)

Sorry, most of the people actually developing the games are still going to be considered dorks, because they are. Some rise above that, but they are few and far between. This is just typical lower class drivel; people trying to make themselves seem more important than they are. Just because you read Slashdot, and video games make rich people more money, does not make you any cooler, sorry. That's the message this write up seems to be delivering. Some dorky people are making money in the entertainment industry, and I'm a dork, therefore I'll be invited to A-list parties any day now. Keep dreaming dorks.

they are going to be more similar in the future (4, Insightful)

Jotaigna (749859) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188604)

we already have seen millions of dollars invested in videogames, like doom 3 and half life 2,but 5 years ago from now they would be able to relase new versions of games within 6 months of the original relase.

With the level of detail and complexity of new games this will slow down to 3 or 4 games a year per company. Time will tell when small computer game developers will join efforts in order to deliver huge games quick ($$$) ending with like about 4 mayor gaming factories, with fictional characters, some celebrities and some young programmer waiting to get his(her) big break. Is this where games are going?

Re:they are going to be more similar in the future (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9188737)

"but 5 years ago from now they would be able to relase new versions of games within 6 months of the original relase."...brain...hurting....temporal meltdown...*urk*

When will video games be advertiser subsidized... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9188618)

So now that hollywood is looking at video games will advertisers start to look at video games to the point where video games are free/cheap because instead of a cutscene we get to watch a comercial?
Is that a run on sentence?

While this is the case... (1, Insightful)

James A. R. Joyce (780824) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188629)

...I still think that other movie tie-ins like promotional fast food offers, action figures, jillions of DVD and VHS releases, etc. etc. will bring in more money. I mean, if the total market is $11 billion then that generated by tie-ins from other media must be only a few tens of millions.

irc.gnaa.us #gnaa

Just look at the site for Van Helsing... (4, Insightful)

JanusFury (452699) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188643)

On the Van Helsing [vanhelsing.net] movie site's front page, only one link actually goes to the movie's page. There's links for a video game, a cartoon, repackaged versions of old monster movies, and even Van Helsing merchandise.

If shitty advertisements disguised as films are the best Hollywood can put out, it's no wonder they need the video game industry. I'll take an Enix or Blizzard (well, make that ArenaNet) game over another Matrix sequel any day.

Cart before the horse (1)

Weaselmancer (533834) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188719)

Not only that, but I saw commercials for the video game before the freaking movie was even out yet. I think that might be a first.

Weaselmancer

Vice City (4, Informative)

thebra (707939) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188656)

Ray Liotta .... Tommy Vercetti (voice)
William Fichtner .... Ken Rosenberg (voice) (as Bill Fichtner)
Tom Sizemore .... Sonny Forelli (voice)
Dennis Hopper .... Steve Scott (voice)
Burt Reynolds .... Avery Carrington (voice)
Robert Davi .... Colonel Juan Garcia Cortez (voice)
Gary Busey .... Phil Cassidy (voice)

To name a few from GTA:Vice City [imdb.com] and I thought it made the game funnier.

Re:Vice City (1)

crackshoe (751995) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188791)

Hey - you forget Jenna Jameson. ;) . and debby harry. and... yeah. I'm glad someone else points this out - for some reason people always forget that Vice City has a consiberably more star studded cast than most blockbusters.

Re:Vice City (1)

softspokenrevolution (644206) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188835)

Don't forget a certain porn actress as that Candy whatsum girl. I mean come on, this is slashdot, what we really want to hear about is Jenna Jameson doing voice-overs for our video game characters.

Good for games, bad for movies (3, Insightful)

RobDogAlpha (739240) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188668)

Having quality voice talent in games is a plus.

Having bad action movies based on games is a minus.

Gaybe Newell (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9188678)

Maybe this will finally motivated Gabe Newell to drop some pounds in hope of getting famous... either that, or we'll find out that he's only bloated 'cause he mistook the HL2 Source Code for a cheesesteak and wolfed it down...

Fahrenheit 9/11 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9188687)

Fahrenheit 9/11 is a huge hit here in Europe.

After seeing it, I no longer wonder why GWB doesn't want it to be shown in the USA before the elections.

It just dismantles the House of Bush...

So that explains the decline (3, Insightful)

WordODD (706788) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188693)

Instead of doing both the movie and the game in the piss poor fashion of late how about trying to at least get one or the other done properly. Games like Van Heilsing are horrid and the movie really isn't much better. Both were released the same day and really all you see featured about the movie is the "amazing" special effects. I don't know about everyone but for me the special effects ridden movies of late have failed to deliver. The main reason I go to see a moive a "story" or "plot". Instead its just one big effects shot then some poor dialog and/or character development then another enormous effect. How long trend will this continue? I guess as long as they can make enough money at the box office to cover it. Or if not at the box office then from the game revenues, after all it probably takes very little money to make one of these "movie" games.

Yeah, yeah (1)

DeezyChee (587489) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188700)

Soon, more blockbuster game franchises, such as "Halo" and "Doom," are expected to become the basis of movies.

Let's not forget Duke Nukem Forever and Mad Max 4.

Mono-Directional Wormhole (3, Insightful)

baudilus (665036) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188734)

Some of you will berate me for saying so, but some movies based on video games are actually good [tombraidermovie.com]. By any financial account, some have been VERY successful.

This does not follow when the roles are reversed; I have yet to witness a game based on a movie that was successful in any respect (unless someone can convince me otherwise). Even as a huge matrix fan, I have not been the least bit interested in playing Enter The Matrix [enterthematrixgame.com].

As long as the movies make money, Hollywood will still make them, even if they are raffish.

Re:Mono-Directional Wormhole (1)

mobiux (118006) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188904)

I posted this earlier, but I thought the Lucas Arts Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade was well done. I am sure that wouldn't count a highly successful game, but that was back the percentage of people with PC in the home was quite a bit lower.

Re:Mono-Directional Wormhole (1)

MBCook (132727) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188925)

Yes, movies based on games and games based on movies tend to do very well (money wise) but be terrible (plot/fun wise).

That said, anyone who's a gamer knows these facts. And as more and more of these movies and games are made, they can only make so many sales to the general public before they realize this fact and this money source dries up.

Right now Hollywood is nearing a drought. Instead of traveling to a resovoir (lots of ideas/good movies, but you have to travel), they want to go three feet and suck the water (money/ideas) that's formed a puddle in a drainage ditch. They'll get water, but it won't last long and it will leave consumers with a bad taste in their mouths (but what do you expect from drainage ditch water?).

Re:Mono-Directional Wormhole (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9188926)

re: Convincing. See basic console sales history:

http://www.ownt.com/qtakes/2003/gamestats/gamest at s.shtm

"GameState takes a look at the actual top twenty games by sales...11. "GoldenEye" for N64: 8 Million Units"

Goldeneye was a James Bond movie. It also sold a few copies in the form of a video game - and had some pretty good press for it's day. Convinced?

bull$hit (5, Informative)

The Lynxpro (657990) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188741)

"In a trend that we all seem to already be hyper-aware of... 'The video game industry was once an afterthought in Hollywood, at most an ancillary source of revenue like action figures. The people passionately developing the computer-based form of entertainment were seen as dorks compared with the celebrities. Not anymore. Now that games have matured into a $11 billion business, topping movie box-office sales and siphoning television viewers, the lucrative and increasingly influential genre has attracted more star power than ever.'"

Does anyone not know the history of the videogame industry on Slashdot? Try 1976. That was the year Warner Communications (think Warner Bros. Pictures) purchased Atari, Inc. By the early 1982, Atari accounted for 3/4's of Warner's profits. So in your analysis, you are 22 years off on the video game industry's importance to Hollywood.

Re:bull$hit (2, Informative)

PCM2 (4486) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188966)

Does anyone not know the history of the videogame industry on Slashdot? Try 1976. That was the year Warner Communications (think Warner Bros. Pictures) purchased Atari, Inc. By the early 1982, Atari accounted for 3/4's of Warner's profits. So in your analysis, you are 22 years off on the video game industry's importance to Hollywood.
That's right -- and by 1983 they were in the toilet, racking up $500M in losses and burying unsold cartridges in landfills. [snopes.com] Interesting how those cartridges were movie tie-ins. Hmmmmm....

Re:bull$hit (1)

Speare (84249) | more than 9 years ago | (#9189064)

The Silliwood crap seems to come up every three years, which is about the same cycle that the game and toy industry follows. Everytime it's profitable, Hollywood starts to comes back. Everytime it drops like a stone, Hollywood slinks away quietly. Now, correlation doesn't prove causation, but it's pretty peculiar, don't you think?

Better than movies (2, Interesting)

NineNine (235196) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188748)

I just got "Onimusha 3" for my PS2, and the opening movie was BETTER, in sheer visible quality, directing, and storyline than anything I've seen on a movie. The 10 minute CGI movie was reminiscent of Episode 1, except it was much, much better. Hell, the game even stars Jean Reno (The Professional, Wasabi, Ronin, etc.)! As soon as storage (DVD's) get better, we absolutely will have games that are 100% interactive, but the quality will be as good as if not better than movies.

It's a shame... (4, Insightful)

xenostar (746407) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188750)

that with every year, commercial game development is becoming more and more out of reach of smaller/indie studios. The expectations are being raised with every Doom3 and HL2 that comes out. Nowadays, the models have to be on par with movie-quality standards, the sound has to be done in a professional studio and etc. Gone are the days when a small studio could write a game and hit it big in the industry. Mods seem to be the only way the little people could make themselves known, and even those have to be on par with the modded game (level are not designed from blocks anymore, they are their own complex 3d models). And eventhough i drool everytime i see a new screenshot of HL2/Doom3 and see the new ATI demos, I also long for the days when people got excited by 16x16 pixel characters and 8 bit sound.

Re:It's a shame... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9188914)

Here's a crazy thought - maybe the so-called 'little people' shouldn't make an FPS. Not every new game needs to be a big-budget hardware-taxing braindead first person shooter... maybe they could actually try something halfway original!

If they write it, I will play (2, Funny)

gmkeegan (160779) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188777)

If EA, ID, or anyone ever publishes a Pulp Fiction game, I'm in!!!

"If I'm curt with you, it's because time is a factor here. I think fast, I talk fast, and I need you guys to act fast if you want to get out of this. So, pretty please - with sugar on top... clean the f***in' car." The Wolf

Games from movies... ok. Movies from games...nah. (4, Insightful)

mobiux (118006) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188801)

I had a blast playing Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.

If they can make games like this that actually have depth to them, instead of a shooter with just a level from each scene of the movie, I am all for it.

But I think there is going to be a problem seeing a movie based on a video game. You already have in your mind, a set perception of the game and how it should go.
Kinda like reading a book and then seeing the movie. It always seems like the movie sucks compared to what you had read.

I wonder which is worst... (1)

Colonel Sponsz (768423) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188865)

... the crap-fest that's usually the result of a game->movie conversion or the mandatory third-person-view licensed games that follow every high-grossing movie...

Seriously, name three good movies based on video games. Impossible. I don't know what they do with them - my theory is that they simply think that the hard-core gamers will see the movie anyway and just throw in everything and the kitchen sink to draw in other groups, creating an end result of a horrible horrible mess.

It's almost as bad the other way around - name three original and good licensed games. Almost as hard. They're without fail uninspired third-person (so the audience can see their favorite actors on screen all the time) shooters, platformers or so-called adventures...

Here's a few (1)

narftrek (549077) | more than 9 years ago | (#9189018)

1) Tomb Raider
2) Final Fantasy Spirits Within
3) Resident Evil
(I personally didn't like it but it was popular)
4) Wing Commander
5) Super Mario Bros
(yeah not the greatest but I know several people who like it)

What's cheaper than reality TV? (2, Interesting)

gelfling (6534) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188889)

Why, having no cast at all of course. Expect more hyper realistic 3D animation to take the place of actual motion pictures. CGI will soon become THE MAIN CHARACTER instead of just the wallpaper as in Troy (battlescenes? all fake as opposed to the Kirk Douglas "Spartacus" which used 10,000 extras). Now all that Whoreywood has to do is make the CGI characters semi autonomous eg. capable of taking direction so as to give the appearance of pompous art and you will see hundreds and hundreds of cheap-o dateflicks, war movies and the like. Hell they'll probably customize them for each demographic. Imagine a "Passion" with all black actors, or a "Kill Bill" with naked chicks.

Re:What's cheaper than reality TV? (1)

hoggoth (414195) | more than 9 years ago | (#9189055)

> Imagine a [...] "Kill Bill" with naked chicks

Oh yeah... I'm imagining it right now... yeah...
Chiaki Kuriyama... (save the knee jerk reaction - she's 20)

Video game cost sure to ensue... (3, Insightful)

shrapnull (780217) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188890)

So people don't watch as much tv, and all the junk they used to sell you to play with has been replaced with electronic boxes.

You can bet damn sure they're going to get that $20 out of your wallet one way or another. Even if they have to devour another market to do so.

Ironically, you'll pay more for them to do that.

Halo: The movie (2)

kyoko21 (198413) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188937)

Well, this isn't exactly real, but just think if someone could come up with a good idea for this movie. That would be pretty rad. :-)

Halo: The Movie. [bungie.org]

Thank god... (1)

tyroneking (258793) | more than 9 years ago | (#9188997)

... geeks finally get to be as special and pointless as Hollywood ... what we've all be working towards all these years ...

Tron and Krull (3, Interesting)

mekkab (133181) | more than 9 years ago | (#9189014)

This is not the first time Hollywood marketing freaks thought up this alliance. Its just that things are now getting profitable.

Look at Tron [imdb.com]; the video game out-grossed the movie.

Look at Krull; the video game was done before the movie!

Remember that the in the Early 80's the video game industry was viewed as "hot" and making lots of money. Cross overs seemed inevitable.

Then, we had the video game industry crash (thanks,ET! [snopes.com])

Now that the video game industry is back on top and making lots of money, its cross over time again.

And Just Like Hollywood.... (3, Interesting)

Jackie_Chan_Fan (730745) | more than 9 years ago | (#9189031)

And just like Hollywood, The artists and coders who do the hard work, never see ANY of those millions.

What was once an industry created by self made talent, who could profit admirably off their hard earned work... as turned into a slave machine controlled by slick suit wearing slave drivers, who under budget, under pay, and demand insane production cycles.

Yup... its a lot like hollywood these days. The people who do all the work, see none of the pay.

But thats a growing trend here in America.

but... (1)

Archalien (197877) | more than 9 years ago | (#9189041)

if only the porn industry would come around. I'm pretty sure my Xbox can't further the spread of HIV. At least until someone writes a tactfully named virus for XboxLIVE.

First time? (1)

Bish.dk (547663) | more than 9 years ago | (#9189042)

Soon, more blockbuster game franchises, such as "Halo" and "Doom," are expected to become the basis of movies.

They write this, as if it's the first time. No, sirreeee....

Anyone remember Wing Commander [imdb.com] and Super Mario Bros [imdb.com]?

Amazing that Hollywood haven't learned from this yet...

I'm optimistic (4, Interesting)

stealth.c (724419) | more than 9 years ago | (#9189088)

I had always wanted the video game medium would rise to be recognized as as much of a storytelling medium as movies. Games like Freespace2, Max Payne, Half-Life, Metal Gear Solid (2), and others are very story-driven and the gaming experience becomes even more immersive with competent voice acting and good writing. (If you want to be contentious about Max Payne/MGS2 that's fine. They got way too damn trippy for me, too.)

I certainly hope that things get to a point where stories are told well through video games on a regular basis, providing yet another great outlet for creativity. I would love to do something similar to a literary analysis of a game like Half-Life, with its stream of consciousness gameplay drawing the participant totally into the story, or of Freespace2's provision of a grunt-soldier point of view of a vast galactic war. Tension in the MGS story is heightened by the player's perpetual need not to be seen.

What better way to immerse someone in your story than to allow them to interact in it and participate? Video games have much more potential than "movie spinoff product." I daresay that today they have more potential even than movies.

If this sounds incredibly weird, remember I'm an English student and I kind of have a vested interest in videogames becoming a semi-literary medium :)
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