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Can Star Wars Episode III Be Saved?

michael posted more than 9 years ago | from the nope dept.

Star Wars Prequels 905

mcwop writes "MSNBC is running a commentary asking: 'Can "Star Wars: Episode III" be saved?' It proposes changes such as ripping off Akira Kurosawa, getting the otherwise good actors to emote, and even firing Lucas. It is one year away, but is it too late to save Episode III?"

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no. (5, Funny)

mrpuffypants (444598) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204542)

no.

Re:no. (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9204570)

To elaborate on my fine friend's answer:
HELL no.

1st post (-1, Offtopic)

748boy (751393) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204596)

you have the first post and you write that ! the force must be very weak in this one ....

Re:1st post (0, Offtopic)

748boy (751393) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204676)

offtopic ??? granted it was a shite joke but offtopic ? you guys bored or something ?

Re:1st post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9204767)

This is slashdot. He forgot to mention how this is Microsoft's fault.

The sacrifice of saving it isn't worth it. (5, Insightful)

xeeno (313431) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204600)

If you save episode 3, you lose the result of finally driving a nail into the star wars franchise.

Think of it: one good move after at least 3 crappy sequels. Statistically, if you encourage this jackass to keep on making movies 75% will be shit.

Please. Let it die.

Re:no. (0)

ideatrack (702667) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204609)

If you make a reference to Guybrush Threepwood in your comment I always mod it up. Go Monkey Island!

But if I reference Monkey Island...and Monkey Island reference Star Wars...then...erm now my head hurts.

Re:no. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9204616)

How the fuck did this get modded +4 INTERESTING.. it's a fucking one word post.. how is that INTERESTING?

Re:no. (5, Insightful)

eviloverlordx (99809) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204706)

The question "Can Episode III be saved?" begs the question of whether it needs to be saved in the first place. People can be amazingly blind to the fact that the first three movies were not stunning pieces of filmmaking in the first place, and that Lucas really hasn't changed the formula for the prequels. Are there things that could have been done better in the prequels? Certainly, but the same could be said for the original trilogy, too. I've seen all five movies multiple times in theaters, and not once have I felt like I wasted my money. I also never felt like I saw a masterpiece, just a series of enjoyable movies.

Just your friendly, neighborhood Dark Lord of the Sith

A bright future (4, Interesting)

RobertB-DC (622190) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204546)

I see a bright future for the Star Wars prequels. Unfortunately, it's a more distant future than one year away.

Wait 20 years or so. The original trilogy will continue to be seen as a seminal work, and the "prequels" as a bastardized ripoff. Eventually, Lucas will die, or otherwise give up the franchise (maybe Michael Jackson can trade his Beatles songs [straightdope.com] for it).

Then, finally, someone can remake parts I through III the way they should have been done in the first place. No midchlorians, no virgin birth, no Jar Jar. Special effects that compliment the story, instead of overshadowing it.

Some future screenwriter and director will have the opportunity to give us back the thrill we had in the '70s, when we saw the original Star Wars in a non-multiplex theater, and were in awe. We who were preteens will be in our 50s... it won't be too late.

Something to look forward to! Just not in 2005.

Re:A bright future (1)

Nasarius (593729) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204629)

Interesting thought, but probably unlikely. It might very well happen with the [i]sequels[/i] (episodes 7-9), though. Unless George Lucas changes his mind and decides to ruin those too...

re: a bright future (5, Interesting)

ed.han (444783) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204647)

i know i'm gonna get flamed for this but actually, jar-jar is absolutely necessary to the story as it exists: nobody else is stupid enough to be palpatine's tool by suggesting giving palpatine emergency powers. w/out jar-jar, there's no emergency powers and hence, no clone wars. i happen to resent it, but that's the way i think it shakes out.

otherwise though, that's an interesting idea. of course, there's a bit of me that wishes i could see a kevin smith treatment of ep 3, considering he's a big SW fanboy.

ed

Re: a bright future (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9204731)

nobody else is stupid enough to be palpatine's tool by suggesting giving palpatine emergency powers
Any random functionary can fill in this role. In fact, it's a better story if you show how someone who's normally quite sensible can be scared into granting a government ridiculous "emergency powers" due to a nebulous threat. It certainly happens all the time in Real Life.

Re:A bright future (3, Insightful)

RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204666)

what?!

If you put the original starwars movies under the same microscope, it sucks just as much as eps 1 and 2 did. if you look at the movies with a child's eye, then eps 1 and 2 look daaaamn good.

Hell, when I was 6 I thought Howard the Duck was a good movie too.

Re:A bright future (5, Funny)

The Ultimate Fartkno (756456) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204804)



> -- "I'm no actor, but I'm crass enough to scam my way into a movie every now and then." - Henry Rollins

Your sig gives me a great idea! Why not take the article's suggestion of dropping Hayden Christiansen and replacing him... with Henry Rollins! Wouldn't that be awesome?! Lava-surfing saber battles? Hell no! Serious man-on-man pummeling! A pre-armor Vader the size of a Volkswagen stomping around in gym shorts like some heavily-tattooed punk-rock Hulk would absolutely beat the living *crap* out of what we had before! And the first time someone calls him "Annie" he could just head-butt them and start screaming into... erm... some sort of space microphone or something.

That would rule.

Re:A bright future (3, Informative)

plopez (54068) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204723)

don't forget, copyrights don't expire until 70 years after the author's death. You may have to wait a lllloooonnnggg time before anyone has clearance to do a remake.

Just another example of how copyrights can incentivize dead people to leverage creativity
for value added customer delight (or something like that...)

re: a bright future (1)

ed.han (444783) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204795)

i believe the idea is to wait until someone else owns the rights and then persuade that person to permit an "alternate vision" of what the prequel might have been like for a cut. giving that owner a cut of the merchandising opportunities would probably make 'em pretty happy.

ed

Re:A bright future (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9204726)

I wish I had mod points - even though this is already at 5 :)

My main fear is that Lucas will do something with his will/estate to prevent anyone from ever remaking these films. But you are absolutely right - they should be remade by anyone with at least an ounce of talent....

Re:A bright future (1)

lukewarmfusion (726141) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204801)

So, with better special effects available, more money, and existing material as your base - you think they'll really go back to the 70s quality/style?

I don't expect a remake EVER. We're at least a hundred years away from such a thing, considering Lucas's remaining life and the fact that the copyright will remain active for an additional 70+ years (as someone else already noted).

To make such a remake commercially viable (which is the only way to get the necessary backing) they'd have to implement the ridiculous, effects-laden formula that we saw with Episodes I and II.

Setting a precendent (0, Offtopic)

Shazzman (656506) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204547)

Let's keep all posts on topic and avoid any comments others might find offensive.

Thanks

Simple answer: no (4, Insightful)

Gothmolly (148874) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204552)

It can't be saved, because it is exactly what people demand. American culture makes this movie inevitably what it will be. Does this condemn Lucas, or the low standards of the viewing consumer?

Re:Simple answer: no (4, Insightful)

greymond (539980) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204605)

"it is exactly what people demand"
- only those younger than 10 years old could ever appreciate Jar Jar Binks....I don't think he was demanded at all.

"American culture makes this movie inevitably what it will be"
- In that everyone who enjoyed episodes 4-7, hates episodes 1-3? ok, but I don't see how thats "American Culture's" fault....it's more like Lucas's fault for writing and directing 3 shitty movies made for kids(kids=10yrs and younger)

Re:Simple answer: no (5, Insightful)

Gothmolly (148874) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204656)

Ah, but who took the kids to the movie? Who bought them the plastic lightsabers? The Jar-Jar dolls? If, as consumers, we neglect the consequences of our actions, is that not the same as choosing their ill-effects?

Re:Simple answer: no (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9204799)

But episodes 4-6 weren't good. Episode 4 was novel, episode 5 was GREAT, but ROTJ was absolute shite. If anything, episodes 1 and 2 were at least better than ROTJ.

Re:Simple answer: no (5, Insightful)

mrtroy (640746) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204637)

everyone said that episode I and II were not as good as they had hoped.

AFTER they went to the theatre to see the movie and bought the DVD and the special DVD with 5 seconds of extra footage.

Yes, it is too late, because a boycott of episode II after episode I's horrible blunder would have possibly saved the third movie, because they listen to box office sales, not slashdot.

But if they make a movie that as many people as possible can go to, and sell a lot of tickets, they make a lot of money. And episode I and II made a lot of money.

Re:Simple answer: no (2, Insightful)

xwinter (632755) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204760)

This is a dead on answer in my point of view. To me, the movies were fun, but a definite letdown compared to the original trilogy. Kids loved them, though, and they were movies that the whole family could go see and somewhat enjoy. Thus Mr. Lucas made boatloads of cash, as did everybody involved. Therefore, Lucas is going to write another watered down story that everybody will "love", but it will be rated PG, and will make tons of cash whether we like it or not.

Re:Simple answer: no (1)

Milo of Kroton (780850) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204699)

All people I know said they were shit, and not all of them were geeks. If Lucas could make a good movie back in the 70's or 80's, why can't he make one now?

Re:Simple answer: no (5, Insightful)

TwistedGreen (80055) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204791)

No, it's definitely Lucas. If you look at movies that he's worked on--Indiana Jones, the original and special edition Star Wars--he really seems to have a thing for 'kids movies.' "The Temple of Doom," for example, was a terrible movie and the worst of the three Indiana Jones movies. It was also the one in which Lucas was most involved. He seems to have a penchant for making terrible kids movies, and I think it's just getting worse with age.

With the original Star Wars trilogy, he was limited by technology... but now, he can throw whatever he wants into a movie to fulfill his 'vision.' If the special edition 'improvements' he added to the original trilogy were really making Star Wars into what he wanted it to be thirty years ago, you can see that trend: adding useless scenes with robot antics, Han stepping on Jabba's tail, and loads of other childish slapstick crap like that. The best he could do thirty years ago with Ewoks.

In conclusion, any guy who dreams up Jar-Jar Binks is obviously nuts. You can't blame market pressure for a guy who seems to get off on terrible kids movies.

FROST PIST (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9204554)

NO

Does Lucas Know? (4, Insightful)

Paulrothrock (685079) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204569)

Does Lucas know how people feel? Does he listen to the criticism? Does he realize it is hurting his reputation as a filmmaker? Is that his real neck or did he get implants? Am I asking too many questions???

Re:Does Lucas Know? (4, Interesting)

Kainaw (676073) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204702)

Does Lucas know how people feel? Does he listen to the criticism?


I know that there will be 100 posts saying this exact same thing by the time I click the submit button, but to answer your questions: Yes and No. He does know how people feel. He doesn't live in a little bubble in the Arizona desert. He may even read Slashdot while hiding under the identity of Paul Rothrock. But, in the end, Star Wars is not about the movies. It isn't about the story. The Start Wars books are far more interesting story-wise than the movies. It is about the marketing. If you go way back to A New Hope and read the behind-the-scenes stuff that went on to get the movie made, you can see that Lucas was keen on marketing. Everything else was just a hobby.

Re:Does Lucas Know? (4, Insightful)

Skyshadow (508) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204725)

He knows -- I remember reading after Ep. 1 that he sent around a memo acknowledging that they'd hurt the series with that steaming load of crapola and that they needed to do better with Ep. 2.

Well, Ep. 2 *was* better, but I think it also demonstrated that Lucas doesn't really understand the basis of his problems. He chalked it up to criminally bad ideas like Jar Jar and fixed those, but then went right back to his usual technique of crappy dialog and lousy direction.

What really needs to happen is at least part of what the article suggests -- the movie needs a talented director (aka, not Lucas). I'm not sure that Lucas' ego will let him do that; he's spent too many years basking in the praise of the original trilogy.

It won't happen. Frankly, I'm more keyed to see the next Harry Potter movie than Star Wars Ep 3 at this point, and that's a sad, sad thing to say about a new Star Wars movie.

Re:Does Lucas Know? (1)

Paulrothrock (685079) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204793)

Frankly, I'm more keyed to see the next Harry Potter movie than Star Wars Ep 3 at this point, and that's a sad, sad thing to say about a new Star Wars movie.

Ditto!

The whole point is to make money (5, Insightful)

Moderation abuser (184013) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204580)

I.e. to cash in on the success of the original series. It doesn't have to be *good* to do that. It only has to have "Star Wars" in the title.

It'll serve it's purpose. Unless you are planning not to bother going to see it, which as geeks and nerds, I frankly don't believe.

Re:The whole point is to make money (1)

pr0nbot (313417) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204747)

It'll serve it's purpose. Unless you are planning not to bother going to see it, which as geeks and nerds, I frankly don't believe.


I very much am not planning to go to the cinema and see it. I gave up on the Matrix after the second part, and given that I almost walked out of the Phantom Menace, I really have no interest in part 3. Why would I bother? For the inane plot? For the utterly bland characters? For the effects?

Re:The whole point is to make money (1)

Ensign Regis (249331) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204749)

Yes, but a *good* movie will, in the long run, make *more* money than a bad one will. For example, I've seen the first Star Wars movie several times, while I refuse to sit through Episode Two ever again.

Re:The whole point is to make money (1)

Prince Vegeta SSJ4 (718736) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204775)

I.e. to cash in on the success of the original series. It doesn't have to be *good* to do that. It only has to have "Star Wars" in the title.

you are right on target, but can you imagine how much MORE money Lucas could have made if the movies would have been better, especially no Greedo shoots first or midichlorians. Sure it will still make a gazillion dollars, but some fans are balking because of these issues. Surely, it would not have made any less money.

In fact, the greatest single disappointment for me was the midichlorians - that just takes away from the whole 'Mystic' aspect of the force. Oh gee, youve got a high concentration of microspoic thingys in your blood - you can be stronger than Yoda. $^#@$%&%&#*#$^*#%^*#$^*!!!!! That just sucks.

Episode One, had no redeeming qualities to me. Especially, when the lightsaber could cut through something like 1 foot thick metal, melt it & not put out enough energy to fry the Obi Wan, who was holding it.

Two, had some good aspects, though not told in the best way - like Anakin anhilating the Sand people and wanting to become 'The Most Powerful Jedi'.

Let's hope Lucas gets another director for 3. I doubt it though.

Re:The whole point is to make money (1)

glitch! (57276) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204778)

It doesn't have to be *good* to do that. It only has to have "Star Wars" in the title.

In four words:
Star Wars Holiday Special

Killing off Jar-Jar (4, Funny)

stephenisu (580105) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204587)

Killing off Jar-Jar in the supossed lightsaber duel while surfing on lava scene would help.

Makes sure it's a slow painful death with lots of burning from the lava. Tape his mouth shut too, so I don't need to hear his stupid voice. I say R2D2 should be the one that "accidentily" pushes him in. Cuz R2 is the comic relief pimp.

Re:Killing off Jar-Jar (5, Funny)

Coneasfast (690509) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204648)

reminds me of an old comment i read:

Episode III: The Passion of Jar-Jar

it's just 2 hours of jar-jar being beaten.

Re:Killing off Jar-Jar (1)

stephenisu (580105) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204705)

Was the idea that Jar-Jar dies to save Lucas from his recent movie making sins?

(I am all about the beating part, but I couldn't put him on the same level as Jesus out of respect for Christians)

Changes? (1, Informative)

darth_MALL (657218) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204588)

"changes such as ripping off Akira Kurosawa". Already done. Check out The Hidden Fortress [imdb.com].

Re:Changes? (1)

The Ultimate Fartkno (756456) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204701)



Already covered in the article. In fact, the article's suggestion was "rip off MORE Kurosawa" since that's what made the earlier movies so great. It's a shame he didn't do it for the last two movies.

Just imagine...

Toshiro Mifune: "Kore wa nan desu-ka?Midichlorians? BAKA DESU!"

Re:Changes? (3, Interesting)

bricriu (184334) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204707)

RTFA:
Rip off more Kurosawa
It's no slur on the genuinely great first "Star Wars" that much of the plotline and characterization was lifted straight out of Akira Kurosawa's "The Hidden Fortress."
He acknowleges it was done and suggests doing it MORE (eg, taking Throne of Blood as the Ep3 model)

Re:Changes? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9204715)

Speaking of rip-off: He points this out in the damn article!

Re:Changes? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9204764)

This not informative!

This is informative, read the damn article This specific example is in it.

RTFA (1)

orasio (188021) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204807)

It asks to come back to ripping off Akira Kurosawa, who did the same to Shakespeare, who did the same to many people.

Sure fire save. (5, Funny)

Sideshow Coward (732864) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204597)

Well, call me crazy, but how can surfing on lava not save a movie? Is there a better way short of two car chases in a single movie?

Re:Sure fire save. (1)

dr_dank (472072) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204655)

Is there a better way short of two car chases in a single movie?

I think the saving grace will be in the breathtaking hot grits sequence.

Star warts.. (2, Insightful)

darkjohnson (640563) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204599)

The script is done..they're filming now...too late this franchise has jumped the shark. I think the working title is Darth and Robin...

subjected to typing a subject (1, Funny)

vbrtrmn (62760) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204602)

Maybe the thrid one will be really good and the first two were actually elaborate pranks by Andy Kaufman.

Re:subjected to typing a subject (1)

stephenisu (580105) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204635)

So the rumors about Andy Kaufman coming back in elaborate overdone CG form and getting in a wrestling match with amidalla are true? ($10 on amidalla)

Re:subjected to typing a subject (0, Offtopic)

vbrtrmn (62760) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204691)

Actually, they're going to get a CG'd Jim Carrey to play the CG'd Andy Kaufman.

Re:subjected to typing a subject (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9204686)

ROTFLMAO hahahaha dude... oh man... totally offguard for that!

It is too late, but... (2, Interesting)

Admiral1973 (623214) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204604)

...there's always the hope that George Lucas will let someone else make more films in the saga. If he insists on making more himself, he could do worse than to rip off Kurosawa. He already did it with Hidden Fortress for the original Star Wars. I just saw The Seven Samurai, and I think that a remake of it, with Jedi instead of the samurai, could be a big hit. Toss in a space battle and some Sith lords instead of the bandits, and you've got yourself a box office winner.

WTF? (2, Interesting)

xanadu-xtroot.com (450073) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204615)

OK, OK. Ep 1 blew fairly large chunks (it was 90% eye candy and 10% story). Ep2 was rather enjoyable (if you track past eh Padame/Anakin love scenes and the Droid Factory).

Mr. Lucas had this story in his head MANY moons ago. Why in the hell should he not finish his vision?

Disclaimer: Yes, ok, I have high hopes for ep3 even after the mess that 1 and 2 were...

YES (4, Funny)

cubicledrone (681598) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204617)

Make it a musical! Use a lot of trendy pop-culture jokes and cliched music. Obi-Wan and Anakin surfing during the lightsaber battle is brilliant! BRILLIANT!

in a word (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9204619)

yes

Battlestar Wars Galactica (4, Funny)

Mad Man (166674) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204631)

Like Battlestar Galactica [slashdot.org], somebody will eventually re-make Star Wars a few decades from now.

In the new version, Luke Skywalker will be a woman...

Re:Battlestar Wars Galactica (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9204802)

I think you mean "Luke will be a man"

Saving Ep. 3 (5, Insightful)

Skyshadow (508) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204634)

The story's pretty much a rehash of what we've all been saying since we were walking out of Episode 1, but it's funny and hard to argue with. This in particular brought a smile to my face:

When Lucas shows up, knock him out, encase him in a block of frozen carbonite and put him out of the way somewhere until the movie is out in theaters.

The only problem being, of course, that you shouldn't let him out after Ep. 3 lest he decide to somehow sully my other fond childhood memories, perhaps by stealing my box of photos and defecating in it.

Anyhow, the article addresses the basic irony of Star Wars: That the guy who created it has also done the most the drive it into the ground, and that success has allowed him to do so more completely than ever. We all knew going in that Lucas can't direct, he can't write dialog, and yet here we go again...

Personally, I just thank God that this decade has had the LOTR trilogy to call its own. It was what we were hoping the new Star Wars movies would be.

None of our business, really (5, Insightful)

The Good Reverend (84440) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204638)

Note to everyone not named "George Lucus": Star Wars isn't yours. Yes, I know you're a fan. Yes, I know you grew up with these films. But it's a few pieces of entertainment, and the brainchild of another person.

I'm sorry you viewed the first films through the rose-tinted glasses of youth, and are unable to view the latest three in the same way. Feel free to bitch and moan about how it's not up to some mythical "standard" you create, but it comes down to it being Lucus' movie, and he can do as he pleases.

Re:None of our business, really (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9204677)

Depends.

Technically, star wars should of already entered public domain.. thats _if_ the current copyright laws wernt so out-of-whack these days.

Well, yes, yes it is (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9204722)

So in your bizzaro world, people should go to the movies, if they don't like it, they should just keep their goddamned mouth shut, and stop making fun of Lucas.

Sorry, if Lucas doesn't like the criticism, then he should be the one to shut up.

And you, you my friend, are, are simply, amusing.

Re:None of our business, really (1, Insightful)

JohnFluxx (413620) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204776)

If I remember correctly, in art, even if you buy a masterpiece, you are still not allowed to damage/destroy it.

Re:None of our business, really (1)

Jord (547813) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204786)

Where are my mod points when I REALLY need them. This comment has hit the issue exactly squarely on the head.

Could not have said it better myself.

Other than the obligatory statement -- if you don't like it, don't watch the movie!

bah (3, Funny)

tubbtubb (781286) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204642)

Maybe if they removed the surfing scene, or deleted Poochie altogether, everything would be okay.

(Note: Poochie died on the way back to his home planet)

Bit harsh isn't it? (1, Interesting)

Timesprout (579035) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204646)

Damn thing is not even finished yet.

Besides its Lucas's concept and franchise, he can do what ever he wants with it. How do you know he is not pulling one of the biggest practical jokes in history by producing an increasingly dire series that people still fork out shedloads to watch?

Use The Force Lucas! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9204649)

Let go of your hatred...

Should this really be headline material? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9204650)

Seriously folks.....

No Need to Save It (1)

syntap (242090) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204663)

Star Wars is whatever Lucas makes it to be... it is what it is. There's no "saving" it just because we may not like the direction it took... it's the direction Lucas wanted to take it and we gotta live with that. It's his baby.

Its his baby (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9204770)

But presumably he wants us to see the baby.

Oh, and pay to watch.

At the moment he asks us to pay, then we are given the right to criticize and make suggestions to improve it.

Unless you think Lucas is going to give away episode 3 for free?

Religion and Star Wars (1, Troll)

mumblestheclown (569987) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204682)

Can somebody please explain to me how there are these thousands upon thousands of discussions on Star Wars throughout the internet, and only a miniscule percentage of them even acknowledge the 800 pound gorilla in the room -- that the series is largely an exploration of Lucas' rather exclusivist and no terribly enlightened religious beliefs. Sure, as watchers of ep 4-6 we were willing to let that slide because, well, it was a fun story, but if you're going to be discussing the movies, their future, and how they pertain to Lucas, you can't not talk about this.

Re:Religion and Star Wars (1)

Ensign Regis (249331) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204800)

"that the series is largely an exploration of Lucas' rather exclusivist and no terribly enlightened religious beliefs...you can't not talk about this."

Sure we can. Watch us.

Yes, it can be saved (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9204711)

With fire. Lots of fire.

Burn all the copies of it. Burn the computers that the digital bits are stored on. Burn down the buildings that warehouse it all.

Burn anything with Episode I or Episode II on it.

Burn every trace of the "special" OT editions.

Wonder in amazement at how awesome the OT really is. Reminice about your childhood and how much those movies really mean to you.

There will be another.

Who cares? (4, Insightful)

TaxSlave (23295) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204713)

I'll go see Episode III for the same reasons I went to see Episodes I and II. It's there. It's more Star Wars. It's a decent enough story, but deep down it's just schlock.

Face it. Episode IV is just a good schlocky Sci-Fi Fantasy that was both fantastic and familiar.

I hated the ewoks about as much as I hate Jar-Jar. It was just cutesy, kiddy crap added to appeal to the younger audience. I tried not to let it destroy the fun of having more Star Wars.

If Episode I was the best Lucas wanted to give us, then that's what I'll take. Episode II was a vast improvement, and I expect Episode III will be good enough for me.

In the meantime, if I want to watch something with real quality, that isn't schlock, I'll watch LOTR.

Too Late (2, Interesting)

Diclophis (203740) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204716)

If the release date is 1 year from now, the movie is already 3/4s done, all that remains is market testing and franchising. Maybe the community needs to make a entire new movie. Open Film (like open source). We can get together on a script, and with enough people the financing shouldnt be too hard. Why let 'hollywood' have all the fun making the movies.

proof... (1)

steak (145650) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204729)

that parenthood ruins everything: episodes 4-6 limited muppet action, people being frozen in carbonite, princesess being enslaved by hutts, death stars destroyed 2; episodes 1 and 2 too much telituby reject jarjar, and not enough yoda kicking butt, death star (or equivalent) destroyed 0.

nope dept? (2, Funny)

aardwolf204 (630780) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204733)

Can Star Wars Episode III Be Saved?

It is one year away, but is it too late to save Episode III?"

from the nope dept.


Ahh you slashdot editors! Which one is it?

Was it all that bad? (2, Insightful)

orion41us (707362) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204739)

I was uber disappointed when I saw ep1, and again when I saw ep2.... But watching them several times out side of the theater; they are actually quite good... I think my expectations were set so high for the movies that I never got into them... Although, LOTR did not seam effected by this Phenomenon.

sh1t (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9204757)

departures of of prOgress.

What an odd question... (4, Funny)

M.C. Hampster (541262) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204762)


I'm assuming that no one here as seen the finished movie. So how can one ask the question "Can a movie be saved?" before knowing if it needs to even be saved.

Of course, based off episode 1 and 2, I'm guessing Jesus couldn't save the thing...

Yes it is too late (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9204765)

Yes it is too late to "save" EP 3. Most of us will still go and see it, some will say that it was pretty good and some will say that it outright sucked the balls of a wookie.

Read The Books Instead (1)

N8F8 (4562) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204774)

The movies may be lame but the books [barnesandnoble.com] have been great over the years. The games seem to get high ratings too.

Is it too late to save Episode III? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9204777)

Yes.

To save the starwars series (1)

TexasDex (709519) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204796)

You need the StarWars Kid!

Have Ghyslain play a part. Everybody loved his acting ability, and it seems that our expectations for the real actors are so low that it couldn't possibly make it any worse.

Firing Lucas is Dumb. (1)

Sigma 7 (266129) | more than 9 years ago | (#9204805)

and even firing Lucas.
That's the stupidest suggestion ever. It is *HIS* story. He *INVENTED* the franchise. The company producing Star Wars is called LucasFilm for a reason.

It's just like suggesting that Douglas Adams be fired for not writing the Hitchhiker's Guide series to whatever magical expectations you are looking for.

It is one year away, but is it too late to save Episode III?"
Technically, Star Wars is an action film with some backstory sprinkled in - just like most action films written at the time. If you want to change Episode 3 into a movie that has a high-quality drama, then it will require re-writing all the other six episodes to bring it up to standard. Otherwise, the original episodes 4-6 will look extremely boring.

If you want drama, watch a soap opera. Expecting drama to come out of an action flik is the most stupid thing ever.
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