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USS Enterprise Finally Flies

michael posted more than 9 years ago | from the arm-photon-torpedoes dept.

Toys 365

apetime writes "Found on Slashdot Japan: Model builder Kaname of Kumamoto, Japan has built a flying radio controlled model of the original Star Trek's USS Enterprise. (Scroll to the bottom of the page for a video. Or go here for an mpeg, and here for a WMV.) The ship measures from 75 cm, and only weighs 16 grams. It's a wobbly flight, but makes you think what else in Star Trek might work if it were tried."

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Nice... (5, Funny)

Punboy (737239) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222630)

But now the question is, if you transported inside of it, would you shrink?

Re:Nice... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9222643)

You can't transport through the crystal that encloses the shrunken Enterprise. But it does conduct heat, as you can easily check by holding the pendant over a candle.

Re:Nice... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9222882)

... or by using a fresnel lens

Re:Nice... (3, Funny)

Megane (129182) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222737)

But now the question is, if you transported inside of it, would you shrink?

Only if you used Wonkavision.

Obligatory post (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9222638)

Congratulations, you just posted a direct link to a 4.2mb video on slashdot, resulting in a server meltdown in 3...2...1....

uhm... (5, Funny)

wo1verin3 (473094) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222641)

I may be wrong, but I don't remember the original enterprise having a propellor. The article indicates that technology from that show may work in real life, but it's using old technology. cool to watch, but only for a slow friday night.

Re:uhm... (1)

Solokron (198043) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222690)

Yes, this is pretty silly. It is hillarious to see the Enterprise with a propeller though. :)

Propellor? (5, Funny)

scooby111 (714417) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222708)

With the right size engine, you can make anything fly. This isn't a demonstration of how well the "Enterprise" could fly. It's a demonstration of how you can make even a brick fly with the right thrust to weight ratio.

I like Star Trek as well as the next geek, but this is just plain silly.

Now, where can I get one???

Re:Propellor? (4, Funny)

nacturation (646836) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222857)

No kidding. This friend of mine Igor said that with nothing more than a couple of propellors and an engine that he would someday get a big one ton cage of metal and glass to fly and carry people! Yeah, right. I wonder what ever happened to that Sikorsky guy anyway...

Look it's simple... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9222730)

Japan is a backwards primitive country that can afford little more than last centurys tech...

Cut'em some slack fucker....

Re:uhm... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9222762)

I may be wrong, but I don't remember the original enterprise having a propellor.

Kirk: Ahead, warp factor 7, Scotty.

Scotty: She given' all she got, but she can' take no more, cap'n. Aye, push'n her any more past 75 kph could rip her prop clean off!

Spock: My calculations indicate that if we fail to improve the propulsion system, then we will not reach the Romulan Neutral Zone for another 1.343 billion years.

It was great in the wind tunnel too (1)

Sovern (631825) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222645)

Previous /. post but great to think of a large one that would carry people. Need a big jet turbine though.

big, fat clue: (5, Insightful)

k4rm4_p0l7c3 (583281) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222648)

Uhm. I'm sure the USS Enterprise was designed to fly in a vacuum; you know.. cause.. space is a vacuum.

*ahem*

Re:big, fat clue: (1)

k4_pacific (736911) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222671)

It'll fly in a vacuum as long as there is no gravity and you give it a push. It just won't accelerate in a vacuum.

Re:big, fat clue: (1)

cgenman (325138) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222889)

It just won't accelerate in a vacuum.

Oh, it will accelerate allright. But I don't think angular acceleration is what you want.

flying in the vacum (5, Insightful)

bsDaemon (87307) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222716)

is it real flying if it is not a function of lift versus gravity? You can't have lift in the vacum, so is it actually flying?

Re:flying in the vacum (2, Informative)

MConlon (246624) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222900)

is it real flying if it is not a function of lift versus gravity?

Yes. In English, anyway... aerospace people "fly" their satellites, probes "fly" to planets, arrows "fly", even though they're on a ballistic trajectory, and so on.

MJC

Re:big, fat clue: (4, Funny)

great throwdini (118430) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222773)

Uhm. I'm sure the USS Enterprise was designed to fly in a vacuum; you know.. cause.. space is a vacuum.

That's what I thought at first, too. I'm not really a Trekkie, though I must've absorbed the movies and most of TOS and TNG from TV ... which triggers memories from TOS where the Enterprise was seen flying around in the upper atmosphere on at least one episode (e.g., where the crew snaps back to Earth of the 60's and are picked up on radar; jets are scrambled, etc.).

So, silly as this experiment is, I think there's some evidence that the Enterprise may have been designed to fly around in more than just the vaccuum of space. After all, I saw it on the TV. And TV never lies.

Re:big, fat clue: (1)

Halfbaked Plan (769830) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222787)

That raises a question I have wondered about for awhile.

Vacuum tubes work inside a glass envelope. Could electronic devices in space use vacuum tubes without the envelope?

Could big outer space computers be composed of diodes, triodes, and pentodes, without the glass envelopes?

Re:big, fat clue: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9222817)

space is a vacuum.

You mean like between the ears of the Enterpise writers?

Re:big, fat clue: (2, Insightful)

LS (57954) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222866)

Uhm. You should chill out a bit. I don't think the Enterprise was designed to fly in a vacuum. It was designed to sit in a movie studio.

*ahem*

Re:big, fat clue: (1)

sumdumass (711423) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222931)

I don't think space is a true vacume. It is just considered one in relation to earths atmosphere. Anyways how do solar sails work? I think with the differences in gravitiy there might be enough friction material in space for this to work to some degree. Now if they could loose the propellar and use some sort of electron propuslion like ion discharge or somethign.

This brings whole new meaning to... (1, Funny)

SeaDour (704727) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222650)

..."Quantum Torpedos".

Re:This brings whole new meaning to... (1)

Killswitch1968 (735908) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222867)

Isn't it "photon torpedos", as in great big missles full of... ummm... light?
That show makes less and less sense the more I watch it.

Zapped (1, Informative)

kannibal_klown (531544) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222651)

I thought Scott Baio was the first person to do this. :-)

http://imdb.com/title/tt0084945/

Re:Zapped (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9222712)

That fucker gave me pink-eye

Mirror Here (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9222653)

Mirror of the movie here! [needalife.com]

Just uploaded it myself a minute ago.

Re:Mirror Here (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9222749)

Now whoever modded that Informative should be spanked hard... with the Enterprise... by Majel Barrett!!

Too bad it did nothing in Mozilla.

In related news... (3, Funny)

k4_pacific (736911) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222658)

A local radio-controlled airplane hobbiest announced today that he has built a working model of (cue tympanis ... Bum bum bum bum bum bum bum) MEGA MAID.

wtf. (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9222661)

It's a wobbly flight, but makes you think what else in Star Trek might work if it were tried.

Actually, no, It doesn't.

Where can I get one? (3, Funny)

No2Gates (239823) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222663)

I don't care how much it costs, I have to get one! I need to learn Japanese REAL fast.

Re:Where can I get one? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9222678)

Just grunt & bow a lot, noone will catch the difference.

It seems a fairly obvious point, but. . . (1)

kfg (145172) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222670)

The Enterprise did not fly.

Neither did the LEM.

KFG

Did too Fly! Enterprise did glide and crash also (2, Informative)

Dark Coder (66759) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222875)

ST:Voyager #151 (Future End's Part II), shows (ok, ok, its not the Enterprise) Voyager flying over Los Angeles [startrek.com]

In ST:Generations, the saucer seperation occurred and demonstrated a mild-powered explosion-induced glided (or should I say firely) though Veridian III atmosphere.

Also, in ST:Voyager Episode 201 shows Voyager crash landing on an ice planet.

In ST:Voyager #192 (Demon), shows a graceful landing on a demon planet.

Slashdot Japan (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9222673)

What is with that? Have we got regional news for nerds or something? And here I was thinking Nerdville was a global suburb.

movie mirror links... (4, Informative)

AmigaAvenger (210519) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222679)

posted links to movies on the main page of slashdot, do the editors have no heart!?!?!

Here is my local mirror on a server that won't be ./'ed...

mpg format [space.edu]
wmv format [space.edu]

Re:movie mirror links... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9222732)

so far, so good, 120k/s full throttle download here in UK :)

Arent infoseek one of japans bigger ISPs?

Re:movie mirror links... (1)

iammaxus (683241) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222846)

Here is my local mirror on a server that won't be ./'ed...

It is futile to resist! you will be Slashdotted!

Pfff that's nothing (4, Funny)

Roland Piquepaille (780675) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222682)

You should see my model Borg cube...

Re:Pfff that's nothing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9222794)

your basement doesn't count.

Re:Pfff that's nothing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9222838)

Shut the fuck up Roland.

Yeah, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9222688)

It doesn't even do warp 1!

Re:Yeah, but... (1)

dasmegabyte (267018) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222777)

Not with a propeller, no. That's an impulse engine. For a warp capable model, you'd need one of those little jet motors.

A propeller, huh? (4, Interesting)

Megane (129182) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222698)

Not bad for a ship design that wasn't meant to operate in an atmosphere. The only reason it's aerodynamic is because that looked good on the TV screen.

I'm not sure what he used for control surfaces (in fact, I'm not sure it has any control at all, and maybe just flies forward), but I think it says in the description that it took him four days, and he used a motor from a CD-ROM.

Re:A propeller, huh? (2, Interesting)

Roland Piquepaille (780675) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222720)

I'm not sure what he used for control surfaces (in fact, I'm not sure it has any control at all, and maybe just flies forward)

It looks guided though, so I'm guessing the back edge of the disk bear the control surfaces.

I'm a bit disappointed that the propeller is at the front though. It would have been so cool at the back of the main "exhaust". Perhaps even inside it, but I can't really tell from the video if it would be large enough for a small prop.

Very cool though. Next task: make a model Bird of Prey that cloaks...

Re:A propeller, huh? (1)

GTsquirrel42 (624871) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222752)

I thought about the propeller myself. How different would the design have to be to accomodate a rear-propulsion system, i.e. jet engines in the two legs?

Goes to show (1)

iminplaya (723125) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222713)

the old rule still applies. Anything will fly if you put a big enough motor on it.(not that this thing required a big motor) Notice I don't consider stability an issue here. Obviously they do and did. And it worked. Cool. Similar wing design here [64.233.161.104] . I noticed they didn't show the "landing". I hope it better than the one in Star Trek IV...

It flies...but how? (2, Interesting)

aurispector (530273) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222719)

ok, he used the disk for lift, but you can't really tell where the control surfaces are. I'd guess from the in-flight pitch (and lack of an obvious elevator} that simple engine power adjustment controls altitude. The only other control seems to be a rudder- is he using the engine struts or the engines nacelles themselves?

Estes (3, Informative)

NitsujTPU (19263) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222725)

Estes is the company that makes the model rockets that a lot of us shot as kids.

They made, later in my youth, model jets powered by "glow" engines, that burned for a few minutes instead of a few seconds. This way, you could fly a model jet around.

I think that they had a Star Trek Enterprise model that took glow engines. I know that they had a model that you could launch off your pad.

I don't know if this is the same model. Probably not, since the guy would get badly burned if he shot glow engines off in his face.

I never owned a model that took glow engines though. I think that most of them piggybacked on more powerful boosters off a launch pad, and then the user remotely fired the glows when he could see the thing clearly enough to control it.

Re:Estes (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9222782)

The Estes kit was just a rocket and nothing at all like this. It attached a big cardboard tube containing a parachute and nose cone to the front of the disk. The attachment point was a smaller length cardboard tube that ran through the disk and was where the connecting dorsal attached to. You could remove the long cardboard tube/parachute/nose cone assembly for display.

Essentially, attaching the cardboard tube made a really long rocket with a tailfin section that just happened to be shaped like the Enterprise.

Oh yeah, it was a bitch to build.

The Estes Klingon Cruiser was much cooler.

Re:Estes (1)

dasmegabyte (267018) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222827)

I know Estes had an X-wing model...a star destroyer too, i think.

Anyhow, there are plenty of other jet engines available for hobbiests these days, especially for models in 1/12 and 1/8 scale. My dad has a 1/8 scale F4 Phantom (the plane he used to maintain in Vietnam)...it's really cool to watch him fly it around, especially since at 1/8 scale the thing is still 7 foot long, but it's so hard to fly a jet from thumb controls with no idea what the wind is up to that 4 out of 5 times you wind up crashing. Which gets to be expensive to repair -- that 7 feet is mostly balsa with a thin aluminum superstructure. Imagine having to glue together a rib cage, and you'll understand the problem.

So what scale is that (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9222727)

75 cm, and only weighs 16 grams

Hm. How does that compare to the "real" enterprise?

That is so cool! (1)

VelvetHelmet (655533) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222729)

I'd love to have one. It would be even better with a few other Star Trek/Star Wars ships flying around with it. You could recreate your favorite battle scenes. How great would it be to see a bunch of X-Wings & Tie Fighters flying around at a park?!?

Flying pig (1, Interesting)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222733)

I'm still trying to get my pink flying pig to work. Ok, so I never built one yet though I plan too when I get some free time. I'm thinking of using a remote controlled helicopter. Next, I would hollow out some Styrofoam balls and wrap to of the halves around the chopper with only the blades sticking out.

I dunno, I guess I have strange sense of humor. But I would get a laugh out of seeing a pink fat pig with a curly tail flying around a skyscraper next to office windows.

Re:Flying pig (1)

Halfbaked Plan (769830) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222820)

Is that the inflatable pink flying pig included in the Pink Floyd 'Animals' album?

Because, if it is, you shouldn't launch it into space. It's a valuable collectable, maaan.

Trivial side note: the few photos of the dirigible flying pig included on the Pink Floyd 'Animals' album cover are the ones taken from a distance as it flew off. Because it got loose before the planned shots could be taken.

Someone who was supposed to keep it tethered and under control was probably doing bong hits... man...

nifty...but... (2, Insightful)

MoFoQ (584566) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222768)

this isn't the first enterprise to fly. The first one was the space shuttle of the same name (named in honor of the show if I remember correctly).

it just needs weapons and then u'll need a few klingon ships to come too.

Re:nifty...but... (2, Insightful)

Mongo222 (612547) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222826)

The Enterprise shuttle never went into space. It was a enginnering test vechicle. They did glide it down from a 747 a few times, but it never flew under it's own power.

Re:nifty...but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9222841)

It was the prototype that *never* flew, IIRC.

Read the Article! (5, Funny)

NitsujTPU (19263) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222769)

Darn you posters who don't read the article! It quite clearly says: "OEã1"NSÔÉí½ÁÄ1"ú1ñÈãSY"-OEfZ¦"Âð`FbN&#233 ;B"

server meltdown? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9222770)

Er, not sure why everyone is so freaked out about the movie link... The movie file is hosted by infoseek.co.jp...

Ahem...

infoseek.co.jp = infoseek.com = go.com = disney.com

I don't think they'd be _that_ fragile...

geeks and their toys (2, Insightful)

bsDaemon (87307) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222771)

Why is it that we as a community tend to delight in the most absolutly innane things that one could possibly come up with?

Yes, I am probably refering to the community of humanity in general, once all the scores are tallied, i guess we arn't any more lame than people with cardboard cutouts of LoTR Characters in their ro....
oh...wait.

/..jp? (4, Informative)

trs9000 (73898) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222780)

slashdot japan?!
what?!
you mean to tell me ive been reading this all this time and i couldve been the uber1337 version from the land of the rising sun?!

sezu-sai....
time to go learn japanese.....

so ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9222797)

really geek

/. Japan?? What next?? (1)

Axigrav (679528) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222799)

Wait a minute! Slashdot Japan?? [slashdot.jp] I've been a /. reader for several years now. How did I miss that -- when did this happen? The night I was doing...(wait, that isn't public information...) errr... OK. But I do realize the implications...

The Slashdot Effect is a reality. Something that can be proven by looking at server logs (just look at all the "not-intended" DOS shutdowns because of this great forum). Isn't the Japenese market one of the top 5 investing markets in the world (yes, I am actually asking here cause I am not sure...)?? Oh, either way I guess it is the trickle down effect. So does that say something bad or good for the US? Hopefully someone else will provide some insight....

What effect does /. have on the world?

-nada firmó

Re:/. Japan?? What next?? (1)

andih8u (639841) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222836)

Well, if you look at the number of posts for all of the articles, it looks like a pretty dead site. One other thing to remember is that slashdot is not a quaint little nerd site, it's part of a very large corporation (OSDN)...which leads us into OSDN's investments in Linux and why you have to many pro-linux, anti-ms stories, etc etc. It's just a big ad.

Re:/. Japan?? What next?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9222905)

Yeah, that looked really cool to me too, but when I went there, it was all in a different language .. weird.

been done (1)

Sparr0 (451780) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222802)

its been done before, but never on this scale. 20g planes are becoming popular, the problem here was in solving the issue of having so much weight (body, nacelles) devoted to non-lift generating surfaces so far from the center of lift (the center of the saucer)

Hate to be the one breaking it for you ... (2, Insightful)

bigjocker (113512) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222808)

makes you think what else in Star Trek might work if it were tried

But you could strap a pair of rockets to a 1000 Tons rock and it would also fly on space ... I don't get these trekkies wasting so much time worshipping a mediocre series

Slashdot Japan?!! (1)

spoonboy42 (146048) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222825)

Why am I just hearing of this now? The combination of Slashdot and Japan is just... beyond words. Interestingly enough, the page title is mostly english words transliterated into katakana:

Surashudotto Japan: Arege-na Nuusu to ****I suck at Kanji, mumble, mumble**** Seito

Let me point out that the above sentence contains the word "Japan". Not Nihon (), but the English word Japan. Wierdness. Slashdot gets Japanized as Japan gets westernized.

Enterprise?! How about the VF-1J from Macross! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9222830)

I'd much rather see the VF-1J Valkyrie fly! Seen here [infoseek.co.jp] towards the bottom. Now _that's_ cool!

Oh wait, I guess it's normal for a F-14 clone to fly... :p

Not the correct configuration for... (3, Funny)

stephenisu (580105) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222835)

Doesn't the saucer portion disconnect for atmospheric flight?

Still way cool though.

If only there were . . . (5, Funny)

jdcook (96434) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222913)

"makes you think what else in Star Trek might work if it were tried"

If only there were something like a communicator. That would be cool. A handheld walkie talkie-like thing only able to talk to almost anybody on the planet. It could maybe even open up like a clam. Sigh. I guess it will never be.

Batman touched my junk liberally. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9222926)

Batman touched my junk liberally. he strapped me in to his batmobile and he couldnt keep his offensive hands off of me. he was performing many red flag touches. i couldnt believe what the fuck was going on. i told batman the city would not approve of a millionaire touching an underage kid for free.

Can you believe it? Batman did all this. He picked me off the street, strapped my arms and legs down in the batmobile's passenger seat, and just wouldn't stop fondling my cock'n'balls.

They definately were red flag touches. the goddamn referee he had in the back seat kept on raising up this red flag every time he touched my junk but did batman care? NO WAY! He just kept on doing it. I couldn't believe what the fuck was going on, indeed. I pleaded with Mr. Wayne but to no avail. I told him the city would not approve of such a wealthy man touching an underage kid like me (at the time I was 13) without at least compensating me for the trauma and the use of my body as his own personal plaything.

This got to him, worrying about his image. He continued to fondle me, all the while ignoring the referee's red flags. Then he drove the batmobile to my house and *ejected the seat I was in*! It was amazing. But surprisingly, after I woke up the next morning, my bank account had $150k in it! Can you believe it?

Seriously (1)

quantaman (517394) | more than 9 years ago | (#9222929)

Am I the only one who thinks they shouldn't of kept quiet till after some Star Trek convention unleashed this bad boy on a group of inebriated Trekkies at the end of a bar crawl?!?

Now that's a video I'd like to see!!
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