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fp (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9229367)

fp you fucking nazis!

Re:fp (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9229380)

this fp brought to you by the aol.mil branch of the gnaa.

Documentary? (5, Insightful)

That's Unpossible! (722232) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229372)

Is it a "documentary" like Bowling for Columbine [hardylaw.net]?

His movies would be more credible if he didn't try to present them as documentaries. They're not documentaries. They're commentaries.

Nothing wrong with that at all, but let's just be clear about it. Up front.

Re:Documentary? (5, Insightful)

Ilgaz (86384) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229393)

IMHO In fact, every political documentary is a "commentary".

Watching History Channel in Istanbul, sometimes it amazes me. You know what I mean...

Re:Documentary? (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9229440)

Actually his movies are a mix of comedy, commentary and documentary. They're fun and they have a message. That's why they are great and why they win prices like the Palme d'Or.

Re:Documentary? (2, Informative)

dummkopf (538393) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229450)

I guess that's why he calls them "mockumentaries". Note that he has emphasized many times that they are not documentaries....

Re:Documentary? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9229471)

Then he needs to stop accepting awards for best documentary. Duh.

Re:Documentary? (1)

dummkopf (538393) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229509)

you should blame whoever gave him the award then. i do not think you can apply for a golden palm somewhere...

Re:Documentary? (4, Insightful)

That's Unpossible! (722232) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229478)

Are you kidding me? Re-read his speech to the academy given when he was presented with the Oscar in the DOCUMENTARY category. He attempts to blister the president over "fiction," when the movie he's accepting the award for is filled with the same, presented as fact.

Re:Documentary? (5, Insightful)

RyanFenton (230700) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229494)

Meanwhile, "Fox News" is still called news, and few people complain about the classification.

Ryan Fenton

Second documentary (3, Informative)

pe1rxq (141710) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229375)

Its the second documentary to get it...
Jaques Coustau got one to.

Re:Second documentary (2, Interesting)

n0mad6 (668307) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229391)

Which was nearly 50 years ago.

Re:Second documentary (1, Flamebait)

pe1rxq (141710) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229418)

That doesn't make it any less the first documentary to get the award.

Jeroen

which was actually a Documentary (2, Funny)

FatSean (18753) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229429)

I mean...Jacque didn't set up the fish so that they would present the image he desired.....or did he??

Re:which was actually a Documentary (3, Insightful)

pe1rxq (141710) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229504)

I don't thing Michael Moore has been behind the actions of the Bush administration so setting it up is a bit far fetched....

Both only show you what they wanted you to see, one wanted you to see a beautifull ocean and a story about great explorers on a great ship... the other wanted you to see a bad Bush & co.

Jeroen

boo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9229378)

Critisezes bush ? And a little of Microsoft maybe ?

-1 Offtopic (-1, Redundant)

Sanity (1431) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229379)

Its a good thing /. posted a story about this because almost [theage.com.au] nobody [chicagotribune.com] else [reuters.com] is [kansascity.com] covering [thestar.com] it [hankooki.com] :-/

In what way is this "News for Nerds"?

Re:-1 Offtopic (2)

Ilgaz (86384) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229427)

You have a real low user ID, you should figure its not just "tech" news.

Michael Moore is what Opensource means against Microsoft (or any closed source giant)

Will it be aired in (sorry, foreigner here) in ABC for instance? It should be in theaters already but Miramax/Disney blocked it.

If you are a Bush supporter and got mad to the documentary itself, please tell so. Don't hide behind "news for nerds" slogan validity.

Re:-1 Offtopic (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9229464)

Michael Moore is what Opensource means against Microsoft (or any closed source giant)

Thanks. I couldn't put it any better myself. Michael Moore is a fat, delusional, self-aggrandizing moron who thinks he can singlehandedly change the world.

And just like Open Source against Microsoft, nobody will take the movement seriously as long as this charlatan keeps spouting his nonsensical drivel and presenting it as "documentaries."

Re:-1 Offtopic (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9229503)

I'd like to think the Open Source cause would be represented by people who, while they have their own opinions, presented them in a fair fashion that did not blatantly lie or distort the truth to do present the cause.

I'm not always big fans of ESR and RMS but compared to Michael Moore, they're quite good spokesmen for the Open Source movement.

Re:-1 Offtopic (2, Interesting)

PortWineBoy (587071) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229533)

Just to clarify. Disney blocked the distribution of this film by Miramax. The chairmen of Miramax are purchasing the film from Disney so that they may distribute it privately.

This has happened before with Disney & Miramax, most recently with the Kevin Smith film "Dogma."

It probably would not be in theaters already even if Disney had not blocked it. Moore wants to add new content to the film prior to release to incorporate more recent events.

Re:-1 Offtopic (1)

Entropy (6967) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229454)

Dunno how this is "news for nerds", but I do know that if this is as truthful as was his last "documentary", the master copies might as well be burned. (Pun intended..)

Moore is a hard leftist political hack. Not to defend Bush, but I can't STAND Moore's smug insipid grin when he thinks he has "proven a point", but he has only used half truths and many outright lies and logical fallacies to do so ...

Alas, just as this award has gone to him for this, there are millions who will eat this stuff up for breakfast ..

Want REAL liberty? Check out www.constitution.org and www.fija.org - the fully informed jury association.

Know your rights to defend your rights.

Hope it's bushwhackingly good (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9229381)

Subject says it all.

As Much As I Agree (0, Troll)

dupper (470576) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229382)

With his positions and enjoy his movies, the man's a troll, plain and simple. He won not because of his movie, but because of his message. The festival is supposed to be about art, but now its been perverted into politics.

Re:As Much As I Agree (5, Interesting)

attonitus (533238) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229445)

> He won not because of his movie, but because of his message.

It's probably not even the message on it's own that won it for him. Rather, Disney's unwillingness to distribute the film with that message.

Re:As Much As I Agree (5, Informative)

Vilou (152617) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229468)

Tarentino told Moore exactly the opposite: "It's not only for the message: it's a good movie".

Re:As Much As I Agree (1)

dummkopf (538393) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229472)

depends where you place the art in a movie.... even though a documentary might not be "artsy" at first sight, it is quite an art to present things in such a way that you get a clear message over. clearly he won because of political reasons, but is it not time some says something to mr bush?

Re:As Much As I Agree (1, Troll)

Stevyn (691306) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229474)

Exactly. Bowling for Columbine was a lot of crap and manipulation. There's a whole group of people out there who got together because Moore completely distorted and took out of context of what they said in their interviews. This guy twists the truth to benefit himself and his bullshit message.

Why is this on slashdot? Well, he's kind of like SCO. He makes a claim, has no real evidence to back it up, and then twists facts to make it seem like he was right all along.

Why did he win? Europeans hate America politics at the moment so they loved this idea of Bush bashing.

Re:As Much As I Agree (5, Insightful)

Vlad_the_Inhaler (32958) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229530)

Well, he's kind of like SCO. He makes a claim, has no real evidence to back it up, and then twists facts to make it seem like he was right all along

Now that sounds like WMD and Iraq.

Re:As Much As I Agree (1)

Seehund (86897) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229489)

Agreed. I'm utterly saddened to see the Cannes festival jury stoop so low. Let's see if there's still a jury left that at least takes artistic achievement into consideration ! Berlin? Venice?

And "documentary"? No matter what you think of the message the movie is conveying, it's a political satire, just like "Bowling for Columbine" was. "The problems this film encounters", with a link to the usual marketing on michaelmoore.com?

Slashdot Story: -1, Troll.

Oh, wait...

Damn you Slashdot, IHBT!

Given the problems this film encounters... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9229385)

Yeah, like the truth.

The truth was already a problem. MM is showing it. (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9229496)

The truth is a very scary place in a world run by Bush and the big end of the US war machine. I welcome MM's film.

Trouble with Michael Moore's films is that they hit close to home, and people don't like it. Just because it's uncomfortable, doesn't mean we should ignore it.

Mike.

Re:The truth was already a problem. MM is showing (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9229523)

It has nothing to do with it being "comfortable".

It has to do with the accuracy of what he is saying. Given his track record, I have no reason to belive what he says in this movie as compared to his previous ones.

Why is this on SlashDot? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9229386)

Just because Michael Moore is a fat bastard, that doesn't make him a geek.

Just curious.... (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9229388)

Aside from pushing somebody's political agenda ... why is this being posted on Slashdot? It doesn't seem to fit into the normal type of news that gets accepted to the site. Your site, your rules ... it just seems out of place.

Re:Just curious.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9229411)

Posting flamebaits seems to have become a tradition. see the "Hall of Fame" for the previous ones.

Re:Just curious.... (Slashdot Filtering?) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9229426)

Click "reply to this" and watch the word "rules" appear in the parent post. Looks like either a Slashdot bug, or some filtering is being done. Nice to know ... Disney is Censoring Michael Moore ... Slashdot is censoring those that care to comment on it.

Some questions (2, Interesting)

sql*kitten (1359) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229394)

Do you mean a documentary or a "documentary" [hardylaw.net]?

A genuine question for Moore fans: doesn't it bother you even slightly that Moore expects you not to independently verify what he presents as fact? You're supposed to be geeks, people who're capable of thinking "out of the box". And doesn't it bother you that Michael Moore is personally getting very, very rich [mooreexposed.com] out of September 11th?

Re:Some questions (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9229416)

err - just how does he expect you not to verify facts ? I actually verified quite a few of his last book.

Re:Some questions (4, Insightful)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229417)

What gives you the impression that he expects you to not independently verify his content? I haven't seen bowling for columbine yet, but I have roger & me on laserdisc and I don't remember being told not to go double check on the guy. Was there an extra note after the FBI warning on BfC that warns you that any attempts to verify moore's veracity will result in your wife leaving you, your truck breaking down, and your dog being hit by a train?

Re:Some questions (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9229443)

I think the dude was asking the question since Bowling is filled with fallacies.

Re:Some questions (1, Insightful)

sql*kitten (1359) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229507)

What gives you the impression that he expects you to not independently verify his content?

That he presents his work as documentary. That is a word with a specific meaning. Take the getting a free gun at the bank scene. In fact, the bank would give you a voucher that could be used at a gun store, once all the regular checks were done. The scene was completely staged - that makes it fiction, not documentary. Moore's films take place in an America that doesn't, and never, existed - it's no more real than a sci-fi or fantasy movie.

Re:Some questions (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9229431)

Not to mention that most of Fahrenheit 9/11 is shamelessly ripped off from Alex Jones' [infowars.com] 2002 documentary 9/11: The Road to Tyranny. Frankly, Michael Moore is the biggest fraud I've ever seen. Why do people worship this cretin? He's the biggest threat to Democrats since Ralph Nader.

Re:Some questions (5, Insightful)

jb.hl.com (782137) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229432)

I'm sorry, but that second link completely turned me off to reading further.

Any website which needs to mock the physical appearance of someone to make a point shouldn't really be trusted.

Re:Some questions (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9229508)

Do you feel that way about people who mock physical appearance to make a point, too then - as Michael Moore does several times including in the titles of his books about Rush Limbaugh is a "Big Fat" Idiot or "Fat White Men"?

Moore is a total hypocrit and while I am crossing every appendage and digit on my body in hope that Bush and his administration is give the boot this coming election, I don't care one bit for Michael Moore and his bullshit "documentaries". At best, he's a satirist. Except I don't think that's his attention. He's a trolling, ass-kissing, "look everyone on the left - love me for I spew propaganda on behalf of your cause!" moron.

I liked moore back in his "TV Nation" days, but he lost all credibility since "Bowling for Columbine" which was a horrible piece of disinformation.

Re:Some questions (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9229434)

Doesn't it bother you that Dubya, Cheney and his cronies are getting away with loot and war crimes in Iraq?

Re:Some questions (3, Insightful)

Timesprout (579035) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229448)

Michael Moore is personally getting very, very rich [mooreexposed.com] out of September 11th?

So are Bush's best buddies.

Re:Some questions (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9229477)

Care to elaborate on which of Bush's buddies are getting rich? This is something that ignorant Bush bashers have been saying for ages, but it's simply not true.

Documentaries (4, Insightful)

thatguywhoiam (524290) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229487)

A genuine question for Moore fans: doesn't it bother you even slightly that Moore expects you not to independently verify what he presents as fact? You're supposed to be geeks, people who're capable of thinking "out of the box". And doesn't it bother you that Michael Moore is personally getting very, very rich [mooreexposed.com] out of September 11th?

I don't have to do a damn thing to verify his movie - I just sit back and see who sues him. I mean, the gun lobby alone is very, very large, and determined... if there was a single thing in Bowling that could even be remotely picked apart by a lawyer, it would happen. But it hasn't.

By the way, I'd like to make another point to the Slashdot crowd at large - Documentaries are NOT supposed to be "objective". News reporting is supposed to be objective. You have never, ever seen an 'objective' documentary that wasn't trying to inform you of some plight, or problem, or point of view. Ever.

Re:Some questions (1)

ilctoh (620875) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229532)

A genuine question for Moore fans: doesn't it bother you even slightly that Moore expects you not to independently verify what he presents as fact? You're supposed to be geeks, people who're capable of thinking "out of the box". Ummm... why can't you verify the information in his movie? Nothing's stopping you. Seeing as I am a geek and all, my response to this is "STFW". And doesn't it bother you that Michael Moore is personally getting very, very rich out of September 11th? Well, he's doing work, selling a product, and making money - its called capitalism.

Well... (5, Insightful)

Muad (11989) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229399)

I haven't seen the thing and I am sure it is politically biased, but certainly I would like to make that determination myself rather then seeing Buena Vista kiss presidential ass and decide that it is not gonna distribute it for fear of losing tax breaks in Florida...

Re: Well... (4, Insightful)

Black Parrot (19622) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229442)


> I haven't seen the thing and I am sure it is politically biased, but certainly I would like to make that determination myself rather then seeing Buena Vista kiss presidential ass and decide that it is not gonna distribute it for fear of losing tax breaks in Florida...

Disney's veto of the Miramax distribution has probably made it 10x the political bombshell it would have been otherwise.

Re:Well... (2, Insightful)

sql*kitten (1359) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229459)

I would like to make that determination myself rather then seeing Buena Vista kiss presidential ass and decide that it is not gonna distribute it

Nowhere in the Constitution is it written that freedom of speech implies that private organizations are obligated to provide a soapbox. Therefore, despite what Moore claims, their decision is not censorship.

Re:Well... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9229484)

The reason? According to today's (May 5) New York Times, it might "endanger" millions of dollars of tax breaks Disney receives from the state of Florida because the film will "anger" the Governor of Florida, Jeb Bush.
Will political interests infiltrate EVERYTHING in life? Not because Disney is looking after their financial interests which is totally understable as they can reject whatever they want, but its the political reasons behind it which effectively "frighten" them into not distributing a film.

So much for freedom of speech, freedom of worship, freedom from want and freedom from fear. Roosevelt will be turning in his grave.

He was never promised distribution! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9229531)

His crying was staged for the press and masses. He was told UP FRONT before he got a dime for production that his movie would not be distributed by Disney.

News for Nerds ... (-1, Troll)

thrillseeker (518224) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229400)

So Slashdot has lowered itself to becoming the mouthpiece for Michael Moore.

"News for Nerds" ... what a concept.

Ah well, it was a fun ride while it lasted ...

Re:News for Nerds ... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9229423)

Just out of curiosity, are you
a) a registered Republican?
b) a white house staff member?
c) both?

Re:News for Nerds ... (1)

thrillseeker (518224) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229439)

Just out of curiosity, are you a) a registered Republican? b) a white house staff member? c) both?

None of the above ... and neither am I an Anonymous Coward.

ummm... (1, Insightful)

Keebler71 (520908) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229403)

Exactly how is this news for nerds? I understand that the prevailing opinion on Slashdot is hatred for the Bush administration, but I fail to see the 'nerd' aspect to this story. Politics aside, if it was a sci/fi or fantasy movie, I could understand, but this was simply a politically charged documentary about 9/11 and the Iraq war. What is next? Reviews of campaign ads?

Re:ummm... (1)

Keebler71 (520908) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229449)

Note that I did not even disagree with the content fo the movie, just that it is not nerd material and therefore not appropriate for slashdot. I guess even that gets you modded as a troll these days...

More of the same? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9229404)

I wonder whether this will be any "Moore" honest [moorelies.com] than his last film [hardylaw.net]?

those artciles are bullshit and you know it (1)

DrunkClam (555170) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229420)

Kuro5hin debunked those all long ago. You show yourself for a fool by reposting it here.

News for Nerds? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9229406)

This is News for Nerds. Stuff that matters? Maybe it should be "Clues for Nerds" and "stuff that doesn't matter."

Predictable (4, Funny)

cpu_fusion (705735) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229408)

Finally we know step #2 of the formula:

1. Steal underpants.
2. Paint anti-bush slogan on underpants, sell to Hollywood/Indie industry.
3. Profit!

What happened to slashdot? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9229413)

I used to religiously read Slashdot. I don't anymore and this type of story is the reason why. Instead of sticking to technology "news for nerds" there seems to be more and more politics having ABSOLUTLY nothing to do with technology subtly being introduced.

Apparently there is a Slashdot employee who has a political agenda that is slowly turning Slashdot into something it was not built for, and will eventually fail at.

Just my $00.02

not first time for documentary (1)

dummkopf (538393) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229421)

jacques custeau won the prize 1956 for his documentary "the silent world". but i guess this is the first time a "mockumentary" wins the golden palm!

now i wish only that in the "land of the free" the films hits the MAINSTREAM cinemas before the election... go bush... go away!

poor disney (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9229428)

its clearly obvious by now that the people who run Disney are suffering from crack psychosis... they first decide against releasing the next film from the last academy award winner in a prestigious category, then they buy the rights back...

if that's not goofey, then what is? ...

Come on... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9229435)

For christ sakes! Is there anywhere left go to without being poluted and sprayed on this idiot's political bile and vomit?

There is a place for vomitoriums, its called Hollywood.

A Documentary? Not From Michael Moore. (-1, Flamebait)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229437)

You have got to be kidding. That man doesn't know what a documentary is.

All is his works are just opinions and editorials, little actual facts. And most of those 'facts' are twisted to fit his strange view of reality.

Everyone has an agenda, which is fine, but at least you should be honest about it when you push it and not pretend that your *opinions* are 'facts'.

Yes!! (2, Interesting)

Yuioup (452151) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229438)

This is beautiful, really beautiful.

The French were a bit apprehensive because it looked like the US seemed to be taking over the prestigeous festival with their blockbusters and the like, leaving the "other" movies (or what you Americans would call "Foreign Film" movies) largely unnoticed.

Well the Americans did, even awarding an anti-Bush movie top merits. It looks like they were finally able to say the things that they've wanted to for a long time now, but were afraid to back home (look at Moore's reception at the Oscars) and used the Cannes Film Festival for that purpose.

This is history in the making. I'm really curious to see what the American public is going to make of this movie and what they will do next.

Yuioup

Begging the question... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9229444)

Do you think this will be Moore honest [tinyurl.com] than his previous work [hardylaw.net]?

Censorship (3, Insightful)

Punchinello (303093) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229446)

Gosh, how do you post to this thread without looking like a troll?

I know the topic of censorship is near and dear to the Slashdot community. I hope people can see that the right wing has a history of using money to censor media outlets in this country. This is a good example of that as is the holy war the FCC has declared on broadcasters.

The liberals in this country want open and free discussion. the conservatives think that they can get away with censoring the liberals by labeling everything opposed to them as indecent.

Want more information on the republican campaign to quiet the liberal voice check out howardstern.com [howardstern.com]. (warning, site may be offensive to compassionate conservatives).

Re:Censorship (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9229462)

You think the right wing wants censorship? Rush Limbaugh and talk radio will be the first thing to go.

Re:Censorship (1)

Ilgaz (86384) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229488)

Even from Istanbul I know that the movie won't be released by Disney/Miramax to US theaters.

Speaking about censorship... Welcome to capitalist way of censor. You just don't distribute it or make it hard to reach.

If Moore reads /. , I tell two words for him if everything goes wrong. P2P and Bittorrent

Re:Censorship (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9229524)

That isn't capitalist censorship. It's just capitalism.

Release The Movie! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9229451)

Michael Moore has decided to play the victim of some sort of Disney / Bush conspiracy to suppress his new film. Which is hard to swallow, since he could release it independently if he was not out to make millions from it. Sign the petition [moorewatch.com] and let Mr. Moore prove that the message is more important than the money.

torrent (0, Offtopic)

mountain_penguin (43679) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229452)

I would love to see this film but at the moment it looks like there is little chance anyone know if there is a torrent of it anywhere?

Copy? (1)

evanbd (210358) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229453)

So, since this film is having trouble being distributed, does anyone have a copy or know where to get one?

before somebody asks... (5, Informative)

SmellsLikeFish (640407) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229457)

four of the nine jurors were American: Mr. Tarantino, Kathleen Turner, the director Jerry Schatzberg, and the Haitian-born novelist Edwidge Danticat. one juror, the actress Emanuelle Béart, is a French citizen, British actress Tilda Swinton, Benoit Poelvoode, a Belgian actor; Peter von Bagh, a Finnish critic; and the Hong Kong director Tsui Hark made up the rest of the jury. taken from here [nytimes.com]

Art OR politics (3, Insightful)

Xenna (37238) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229465)

I really hope that this is a good documentary, because I'd really hate it if the Cannes festival has become nothing more than a vehicle for politics.

What a bunch of pussy footers (4, Insightful)

imrdkl (302224) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229466)

This guy is like one of 3 people in our great nation who's truly willing to get up in the collective face of the administration, and still we have hand-wringing "reasonable" liberals who advise "caution", and fret about him being a provocateur.

Fuck that. Until the rest of the 150 million or so people who haven't been utterly brainwashed by this administration find the gonads to say something more than, "But, he has no exit plan..", Moore is the mouthpiece of the home of the brave, as far as I'm concerned.

Censorship... (1)

zelurxunil (710061) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229469)

Don't we all hate it when the government comes in and regulates the content of the arts, and other forms of communications. I sure do, except for this is certainly not a case for that. Disney made a decision as a private company and business that they will not produce and distribute a film. Following the logic that a private company should not be able to pick and chose what it stands behind, we obviously need government regulations on what gets published, since no private company should be able to make that decision.

opinions for sale (2, Interesting)

BaconLT (555713) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229479)

What never ceases to amaze me is how, in America, we pay so much to hear and endorse other people's opinions. We give virtually no creedance to those who verify and contradict the supposed facts on which the opinions of politicians, movie makers, and anyone who controls the information flow are based.

Off to Sourceforge... (0, Offtopic)

telstar (236404) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229481)

I've got to submit a bug that Slashdot is displaying somebody's political agenda instead of news for nerds and stuff that matters.

Cannes and Abu Ghraib (2, Insightful)

l0ungeb0y (442022) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229491)

Hopefully this movie will open in the US and will cause some people to open their eyes.

But even more than Moore's documentary, I hope more and more images and video keeps coming out of Iraq in regards to the abuse, torture, rape and slaughter of Iraqi citizens, most of whom are guilty of no crime. That more than anything is Bush's legacy, his mark upon the world and truly the images that best define our Fascist Leader and his doctrines.

Michael Moore is a satirist (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9229497)

His hysterically bilious extreme leftist "mockumentaries" that Hollywood fawns over are actually satirizing the anti-American left.

And while Moore rakes in millions and millions of dollars in a true capitalist success story, his supporters are like the English snobs who thought Swift's "A Modest Proposal" was to be taken seriously.

Either that, or he's a big, fat, lying fucking hypocrite.

Relevance to nerds? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9229506)

What's the story for nerds here? Did he make use of some cool technology?

2 Moore's comments (1)

rduke15 (721841) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229512)

See 2 reactions by Moore on French TV yesterday, and a different link, in yesterday's submission which I kept here [slashdot.org]

Release it to the web! (1, Interesting)

Roger Keith Barrett (712843) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229516)

I don't remember where I saw it exactly, but there is a website out there that says that if Michael Moore is as anti-corporate as he likes us to think that he should forget the whole Film distro flim-flam and release this film to the web before he releases it anywhere else.

I agree this. I want to believe that Moore wants to crusade for the little guy, but he seems to benifit quite a bit from the corrupt system that he says he hates. He also conviently forgets about the places he's exploited, like Flynt Michigan.

As much as like some of the stuff in his past, he seems to be in bed with the corps and this stinks heavily of hypocracy. Come on Michael... show us where your heart REALLY is!

Message or Money? (5, Interesting)

joeytsai (49613) | more than 9 years ago | (#9229527)

Moore currently doesn't have a US distributor because of the Disney/Miramax situation, but Moore feels so strongly about the the content of Farenheit 911 and that American voters especially need to see the movie before the November election.

I'm personally not a fan of Michael Moore at all, but I will give Moore a lot of credit if he does what seems to be the best option right now: release the movie online, for free. If he does that, he shows that he isn't being a hypocritical war profiteer - he cares more about people hearing the message than the paycheck.

The petition to release the movie is here [moorewatch.com].
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