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$20,000 in Perl Contest

Hemos posted more than 10 years ago | from the more-money dept.

Perl 44

[rvr] writes "Are you a Perl hacker? Do you want a Apple G5 with a 23" screen, a 17" PowerBook, a Thinkpad or iPods? Six Apart, the company behind of Movable Type and TypePad, is running a contest of plug-ins for Movable Type 3.0. The total amount of prizes is $22,000. The deadline is June 18, 2004."

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DOWN WITH MOVABLE TYPE! (5, Funny)

IshanCaspian (625325) | more than 10 years ago | (#9234583)

DOWN WITH MT! DIRTY FASCISTS! DAMN YOU AND YOUR NO-LONGER-FREE LICENSING SCHEMES! IF I WANTED TO HAVE MY FREEDOM TAKEN AWAY I'D... ...wait a minute...

20 grand worth of Apple goodies? ...Hmm...

*becomes suddenly quiet and opens emacs*

(Lameness filter encountered. Post aborted!)

Re:DOWN WITH MOVABLE TYPE! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9236287)

Come on, you fucking Amerikan moderators, that was funny.

(Except the part where he opens Emacs; this should of course be Vim.)

Mod abuse! It was a joke you cretins! (1)

IshanCaspian (625325) | more than 10 years ago | (#9237796)

Jeez, it was sarcasm...can't you guys take a joke?

how about a migration engine? (5, Insightful)

iamwill (701094) | more than 10 years ago | (#9234624)

That ports your MT blog to a any other blogging system with a single click?

Re:how about a migration engine? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9234927)

I think this is a way from them to try and please the OSS community by some how holding a contest. If you want to partake in their little shenanigan that's great but if you want to build an alternative to MT by all means join one of them many OS projects out there.

Re:how about a migration engine? (2, Informative)

citog (206365) | more than 10 years ago | (#9235438)

Something like this? [carthik.net]

Re:how about a migration engine? (1)

arvindn (542080) | more than 10 years ago | (#9237324)

Wordpress [wordpress.org] is all you need.

Mark Pilgrim has a great article [diveintomark.org] on his migration.

Contest rules? (4, Interesting)

BRTB (30272) | more than 10 years ago | (#9234647)

Residents of Florida not eligible.

1. Damn. I needed a couple 20" flatpanels, too.
2. Why is it Florida's always excluded from contests like this? Extra contest-registration rules or something?

It's because.... (5, Informative)

vor (142690) | more than 10 years ago | (#9234718)

"Contests/Games of skill", with a prize, are NOT allowed in Florida.

Re:It's because.... (5, Funny)

Dingeaux (768490) | more than 10 years ago | (#9234776)

Contests/Games of skill", with a prize, are NOT allowed in Florida.

So should the Marlins hand back their World Series rings?

Re:It's because.... (1)

MrWa (144753) | more than 10 years ago | (#9235072)

Ironic that Florida has a lottery [flalottery.com] , which requires no skill!

Re:It's because.... (3, Funny)

CodeMonkey4Hire (773870) | more than 10 years ago | (#9238714)

Well, that explains how they handle elections.

Re:It's because.... (5, Informative)

JabberWokky (19442) | more than 10 years ago | (#9235111)

Nope. Not that at all.

Florida has a large elderly population which is very susceptable to scams. If you think that large scale, organized ripping off of grandparents who are slowly going senile isn't common, read the Palm Beach Post for a couple months. Some pretty nasty things go on.

Basically, the state of Florida requires all prizes to have a state bond posted that equals the value of the prize. That eliminates the majority of the "win a million dollars" scams. They are also pretty agressive about pursuing those who don't post a bond.

I've also noticed that Tennessee and New York seem to be other two states that are commonly excluded from prizes. New York, I believe, has a similar anti-scam law that requires some hoops to jump through. I have no idea about Tennessee.

--
Evan

Re:It's because.... (1)

Frizzle Fry (149026) | more than 10 years ago | (#9264152)

And the law has done its job by protecting all the retirees who undoubtedly would have gotten sucked into this perl contest.

Re:It's because.... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9240249)

Hmm. Too bad this didn't come up in the Supreme Court around November 2000. :)

Re:It's because.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9245933)

Don't sweat it. If you do not win the firsttime, you have another chance at it.

It's because (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9234771)

The 2000 election was a pure fuckup in Florida and you will be remembered in infamy for the rest of history for it.

Re:Contest rules? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9234999)

Because that state has laws that enforce a rather backwards moral code on it citizens.

Hmm... (-1, Troll)

Clockwurk (577966) | more than 10 years ago | (#9234672)

Is irony when your contest involves the most user unfriendly language and the prize is the most user friendly computer?

Re:Hmm... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9235945)

If you think Perl is the most user unfriendly language, you obviously don't [wikipedia.org] know [muppetlabs.com] many [wikipedia.org] ...

darn. (3, Funny)

pb (1020) | more than 10 years ago | (#9234683)

If there had been an Athlon 64 in there somewhere, I might have given it a shot... Stupid Dell.

Re:darn. (1)

slittle (4150) | more than 10 years ago | (#9235938)

Win any of the Apple stuff, sell it, and buy TWO Athlon 64s.

no purchase nessecary (1)

drfrog (145882) | more than 10 years ago | (#9234686)

right!!

how can you test your plugin without a copy of the software?

Re:no purchase nessecary (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9234691)

Idiot, you pirate it of course!

You download the free version... (4, Informative)

thenextpresident (559469) | more than 10 years ago | (#9234752)

that basically has all the features of the full version.

Re:You download the free version... (1)

drfrog (145882) | more than 10 years ago | (#9234995)

where?
i didnt see anything on their site, else i wouldnt have posted that!!!

Re:You download the free version... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9235758)

Click "Get Movable Type". There's a big box with a green heading saying MOVABLE TYPE FREE on the right-hand side.

READ THE FINE PRINT OF THIS CONEST -Please Read (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9234749)

"Six Apart will retain non-exclusive, perpetual, no-cost license to all submitted plugins."

NOTE: That is NOT all winning plugins hence you get something, this is ALL PLUGINS SUBMITTED, I have no problem with open source, but that is outright theft.

Always read the fine print. This sort of bullshit happens a lot with contests.

Re:READ THE FINE PRINT OF THIS CONEST -Please Read (4, Insightful)

MrWa (144753) | more than 10 years ago | (#9235085)

So...you send them a plugin and they get to use it? Even if it isn't the winning entry? And you still own the license and copyright to anything you submit? And it is non-exclusive? And you sent it in by choice?

What's the problem? Since you read /. I assume your plugin would have been GPL'd in any case so I don't fully understand what the issue is...

Re:READ THE FINE PRINT OF THIS CONEST -Please Read (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9235129)

GPL'ing the software is the AUTHORS choice not MT's also please realize they may or may NOT GPL it. It says you gave them the rights to the software you wrote not that you gpl'ed it.

"# Six Apart will retain non-exclusive, perpetual, no-cost license to all submitted plugins."

Read it carefully, I have no real problem with MT etc. I am just pointing out the rules to the people who may not have read it carefully what it is saying.

I AM NOT A LAWYER.

There was another line in the rules that says "# Participants retain intellectual property rights to their plugins."

I am curious as to how that affects the code a coder writes if they have unrestricted access to it.

I think to be more fair they should simply say WINNING entries become their property and the rest just stay with the respective authors. That would be more fair.

I don't think you should have to give up your rights to just enter a contest.

Re:READ THE FINE PRINT OF THIS CONEST -Please Read (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9235240)

"# Six Apart will retain non-exclusive, perpetual, no-cost license to all submitted plugins."

You don't give them the rights to it. You give them a non-exclusive, perpetual, no-cost license. Basically you're letting them redestribute (licensing) the plugin with their software with no obligation of financial compensation (no-cost). You keep the rights to it, and are allowed to distribute it yourself or license it to another party as well (the non-exclusive bit).

Re:READ THE FINE PRINT OF THIS CONEST -Please Read (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9235747)

GPL'ing the software is the AUTHORS choice not MT's also please realize they may or may NOT GPL it.

Yes. What this means is that you yourself can GPL it and distribute it as you see fit, but SixApart don't have to abide by the terms of the GPL as you have already licensed it to them under different, less restrictive terms. Unless SixApart decide to redistribute it under the BSD license or something, everybody else will have to abide by the GPL when recieving it from you, and by SixApart's license (usually proprietary) when recieving it from them.

Re:READ THE FINE PRINT OF THIS CONEST -Please Read (1)

topynate (694371) | more than 10 years ago | (#9287692)

The GPL is a 'non-exclusive, perpetual, no-cost license'. So licensing your plugin to them under the GPL should be ok.

Hmmm let's do the math... (3, Insightful)

hung_himself (774451) | more than 10 years ago | (#9234773)

$1500-$8000 of tax deductable merchandise for 6 plugins that would have taken how many $$ to produce in house or contract out???

Nice try though...

Re:Hmmm let's do the math... (1)

TheLink (130905) | more than 10 years ago | (#9235053)

6 plugins? Suckers may submit more than 6 decent plug ins.

USD20K for 10 decent plugins is a bargain.

USD20K for 100 decent+half decent plugins is a steal.

Sheesh.

Not a bad deal for the winner, either... (4, Interesting)

wirefarm (18470) | more than 10 years ago | (#9238301)

Lots of people wrote plugins for the last version, released them to the community and basically got nothing for their ingenuity and their effort.
Now, at least they can be rewarded in some way.
How is this a bad deal?

I wrote an add-on for the last version that some people use - I never asked for, expected or got any kind of compensation. I'd have been stoked if someone gave me an iPod.

challenging... (-1, Offtopic)

http (589131) | more than 10 years ago | (#9235096)

I recently re-read 'The AWK Programming Language' (a predecessor of PERL), and so had strongly in mind that no implementation is infinite. But come on, a line with 20 000 fields? You need to talk to the people generating the data before expanding the language.
;)

Excellent idea (1)

arhar (773548) | more than 10 years ago | (#9236525)

I think this is an excellent idea.. There should be more programming contests with nice prizes around here.

My company, too (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9237408)

We just announced a contest where we have to design the new software, test it and get it to customers by the end of June. First prize: we get to keep our jobs!

I need that stuff.... (1)

Randolpho (628485) | more than 10 years ago | (#9238781)

... but how am I supposed to write a plugin for Movable Type when I don't own a copy and thus cannot test it?

Re:I need that stuff.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9239072)

Look on Torrent sites.

Re:I need that stuff.... (5, Informative)

mebon (634191) | more than 10 years ago | (#9239725)

Go to the download page: http://secure.sixapart.com [sixapart.com] . On the right hand side is a green box that says MOVABLE TYPE FREE. You can download a free version there, but they require that you register and provide a valid email address.

You can't just give a false email address because they send a confirmation email to the address with a link in it that you need to click in order to complete your registration. I would suggest using a throw-away @yahoo.com address.

Re:I need that stuff.... (1)

Randolpho (628485) | more than 10 years ago | (#9240715)

Cool, thanks for the info. Here's a virtual +1 Informative for ya. :)

My entry (1)

shoppa (464619) | more than 10 years ago | (#9243323)

perl -e 'fork while 1'
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