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The DDR Workout - It's Official

timothy posted more than 10 years ago | from the up-up-down-down-a-a-b-a dept.

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webster1 writes with a followup to a recent Ask Slashdot question. "An AP news story just released says that Dance Dance Revolution is becoming the weight-loss routine of choice for many young gamers. One quote says '"At first I was playing it for fun, but when you see results you're like, Yeah!" said Matt Keene, a 19-year-old from Charleston, South Carolina, who used to weigh more than 350 pounds and wear pants with a 48-inch waist.' It's for grown-ups too. Even Jason Enos, product manager at Konami Digital Entertainment-America, which distributes the game in the U.S., has lost 30 pounds playing the game. There's even a site for DDR wieght loss fans: www.getupmove.com - My wife and I have been playing for months now with this goal in mind, though we aren't yet seeing these results." (A post from a few months ago talks about getupmove and gives some calorie-burn specifics.)

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"when I saw the results..." (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9256183)

I was like, Yeah! first post

off topic??? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9256275)

it's funny

Re:off topic??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9256295)

not really

arcade games (5, Funny)

tsunamifirestorm (729508) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256184)

i used to get a workout from playing old-school arcade games, the ones where you had to press buttons 10 times a second. on the other hand i'm sure eating pizza and drinking soda more than counteracted any sweat i produced.

Re:arcade games (4, Funny)

Hatta (162192) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256313)

Man, I'm getting the urge to pull out the power pad and play some track and field about now.

Work smarter, not harder. (2, Funny)

raehl (609729) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256420)

For a mere $39.95, you could have had a controller with a turbo button to do that button pressing for you.

What I found truly amazing about this story was that Konami still existed. Can you dance up up down down left right left right b a b a start? If so, what does it do?

Wow (4, Funny)

kdougherty (772195) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256187)

That's right Jenny Craig, you're going down! Quickly buy your own DDR and get rid of that stair master!!!

Site is run by RedOctane (5, Informative)

Trillian_1138 (221423) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256217)

I'm not saying DDR can't work for weight loss, or that getupmove.com or the AP story aren't valid. However, the site is run by RedOctance, a DDR pad supplier. Check out the contact information for getupmove.com or the suggested pads under 'Get Started.'

Again, I'm not denying the posibilities of using DDR for weight loss. After the Ask Slashdot thread I downloaded StepMania and am seriously considering buying a pad and USB adapter becasue it does look like tons of fun. I just think it's important to be concious of where you're getting your information...

-Trillian

RedOctane is run by VA Research a la Selloutdot (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9256302)

I'm insulted by this ad. Actually, this is the 2nd ad [slashdot.org] slashdot has run for their newest offshoot. MARK ADS AS ADS ASSFUCKERS! THIS IS BULLSHIT. YOU EDITORS NEED TO GET SOME ETHICS AND STOP HYPING PRODUCTS AS IF THEY ARE LEGITIMATE NEWS STORIES.

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Trendy Diets... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9256416)

What next? DDR - Atkins Version, now with fewer carbs!

Re:Wow (0, Troll)

NachoDaddy (696255) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256434)

Now if only Dr Atkins had one of these in his office, he would still be alive today.

DDR? WHY?!! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9256188)

I just don't get these Japan culture fads. Sure there is some good anime to come out of Japan, but this whole fixation on every pile of steaming crap that comes out of asian pop culture really gets on my nerves. Dance Dance Revolution has to be the lamest thing I've ever seen that did not come out of American pop culture. And there are these people here in the states who rag on Britney Spears but suck up equally mind-numbingly stupid Japanocrap J-Pop and fads like DDR and Pokemon.

Give me a break.

Re:DDR? WHY?!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9256242)

J-Pop is sugary pop junk just like Britney, but more ephemeral. The individual acts and idols disappear quickly enough that they don't start thinking they are stars.

I would never buy Britney style American pop, or J-Pop, but if either is on and I'm in the right mood I can enjoy it for what it is.

Re:DDR? WHY?!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9256254)

Micikawa baku-baku kawaii dorrriffftuuuuuuu! Bentu kama nichi pento baki? ^_^

Man, too bad (5, Funny)

bigben7187 (754240) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256190)

It's too bad im an uncoordinated computer geek...

Re:Man, too bad (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9256250)

It's too bad im an uncoordinated computer geek...

The whole point is to become coordinated. Were you a really good typist when you were born? Did you know how to type at all? How'd you type out that sentence? Most geeks I know are better than average gamers, and faster than average at typing. What improved those skills? OMG....WHAT?.... PRACTICE?

What lead to maintaining that practice? OMG..... WHAT?.... COMBINING IT WITH STUFF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN?!?!?

Don't be down on yourself.

Re:Man, too bad (5, Insightful)

Jeremi (14640) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256369)

The whole point is to become coordinated.


I too thought that at first, but it turns out the real skill you learn from DDR is how to enjoy looking silly in public. Even if you never get the coordination, being able to set aside your natural nerdly inhibitions (without the aid of alcohol) is always a good skill to have... :^)

Hmmm... (1)

cujo_1111 (627504) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256191)

Seriously, could this kid have lost more weight doing a low impact exercise regime instead of putting extreme weighty pressures on his stressed joints?

I lost 60 pounds in 3 months just by starting a resistance weights training program. My fitness wasn't an issue, just excess weight.

Re:Hmmm... (3, Insightful)

gid13 (620803) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256210)

If he's anything like most people who want to lose weight, no. No he couldn't. Why not? Because chances are he doesn't like exercise for the sake of weight loss. Evidently he does like exercise for the sake of video games, which is what makes the weight loss work.

Having said that, my reaction to Dance Dance Revolution remains "oh, dear God, that's disturbing".

Re:Hmmm... (5, Insightful)

rsmith-mac (639075) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256220)

I'm sure he could, but where's the fun in that? The whole reason that this DDR workout and similar programs are taking off is because they're fun and hard work, as opposed to a "low impact exercise regime", which is as boring as it sounds. Sure, a regime like that would be better, but for most people, they'd rather have fun doing a sligtly less effective workout, than to be bored to tears being effecient.

Bikes are pretty fun too... (5, Funny)

tentimestwenty (693290) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256372)

Sometimes I like the Old Fashioned fun of getting outdoors and riding my bike. Of course, I have a GBA duct taped to my handlebars so I can have some real fun. It's fairly low impact... most of the time.

Re:Hmmm... (1)

DigitaLunatiC (452925) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256326)

I wouldn't knock it. I actually know the kid and play with him when he comes up to Myrtle Beach. He doesn't seem to have any joint problems, and he's in much better shape now. My step-brother lost ~60 pounds playing this and dieting a bit. I play it too, but weight is far from being an issure for me. I play it because it's fun, but I noticed when I was at Ultimate Frisbee practice after a few months playing Heavy that I didn't really get tired any more.

Yes...it does work (4, Interesting)

bigman2003 (671309) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256193)

I'm not sure how it could NOT work.

If you do DDR for 45 minutes, 4-5 days a week, you'll be losing about 2 pounds every 3 weeks.

Worked for me, and my daughter.

You should be getting up to about 180BPM near the end of your workout- not sticking to some 130BPM songs.

For me, having the Xbox version, and downloading new songs was a lifesaver- otherwise I would be completely bored of the songs.

And finally- you won't lose anything if you are using the controller! Get a good dance pad!

Re:Yes...it does work (3, Funny)

molafson (716807) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256253)

I'm not sure how it could NOT work.

If you still drink 6 bottles of Coke, and eat a bucket of chicken for lunch -- that's how.

Re:Yes...it does work (2, Funny)

Jeremi (14640) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256347)

If you still drink 6 bottles of Coke, and eat a bucket of chicken for lunch -- that's how.


Even then you'll gain less weight than you would have without the exercise. (Of course, if eat your 6,000-calorie meal just before starting your DDR workout, you'll probably lose the entire meal)

Re:Yes...it does work (1)

simcop2387 (703011) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256294)

i figured you'd be loosing more quarters than that.

anyone know how many quarters it takes to have 2 pounds of them?

Damn (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9256196)

Man, since this is Slashdot wouldn't you expect the article be about computer memory when you see 'DDR'...

Re:Damn (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9256303)

You know that's exactly what I thought when I saw the word DDR... so instead I'm reduced to posting crap under AC

In Soviet Russia, the Video Game controls YOU!
followed by
I'm in a wheelchair, you insensitive CLOD!
followed by
Imagine a beowulf cluster of these puppies! (Fat DDR game players...)
followed by
Profit!!!

Re:Damn (3, Informative)

orthogonal (588627) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256314)

Man, since this is Slashdot wouldn't you expect the article be about computer memory when you see 'DDR'...

Not at my age: to me, "DDR" will always be the Deutsche Demokratische Republik [wikipedia.org] , that is, the German Democratic Republic, or East Germany, Prussian disdain and Hitler's Berlin "transformed" by the New Socialist Man and drab gray concrete apartments named after "Heroes of the Proletariat".

Here's the music, a old-fashioned socialist worker's hymm Nationalhymne der DDR / Anthem of GDR ("Auferstanden aus Ruinen" / "Resurrected from ruins") [sovmusic.ru] (get more of your "Socialism before it hit the dustbin of history" groove on here [sovmusic.km.ru] ; in all honesty if you can ignore the frozen political prisoners of the ,a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag'>Gulag Archipelago, the music itself is pretty stirring).

And here's the workout, starting with the youth cadre, The Young Pioneers of the Five-Year Balance Beam Plan [osa.ceu.hu] (learn more about "mass gymnastics under communism" [osa.ceu.hu] , and remember to scroll right-- the pages are literally about 800 X 4000).

Re:Damn (1)

orthogonal (588627) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256407)

Here's the music, a old-fashioned socialist worker's hymn Nationalhymne der DDR / Anthem of GDR ("Auferstanden aus Ruinen" / "Resurrected from ruins")

Heh.

I should have been more suspicious of a DDR anthem mp3 with the file name "daywork.mp3"; I just assumed it was a different version than the one I'd previously download. After I posted, I downloaded it, only to be confused by a song that's in German but is certainly not the DDR hymn.

In fact, www.sovmusic.ru [sovmusic.ru] incorrectly linked three songs to this "Day Work" song; the real DDR Anthem is here [sovmusic.ru] .

I've emailed the site about the mis-linking.

Re:Damn (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9256381)

I wouldn't expect it to be about memory since the heading starts out with "Games:" on the front page. :P

It's all about the feet! (2, Funny)

Zinic (780666) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256197)

I call DDR my 8, 9 and 10 foot work out!

(DDR levels are based on how many feet the song is rated! 9 foot songs are great fat burners!)

Re:It's all about the feet! (1)

Dizzle (781717) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256327)

The only bad part is when you fail a nine foot song because your mat didn't register a step or you were daydreaming, you have no controller to jump up and down on.

But having just completed a 2 hour stint of DDR, I can tell you that DDR can be a great workout. Put it on endless mode heavy, and you're playing one song after another without end, and you'll get plenty of cardio in. If you play enough, it's a good alternative to working out.

Also, consider other ways to get exercise. Riding your bike instead of driving your car is a good example of that. I do that and I've got a great lower body. Just do what fits for your life.

Re:It's all about the feet! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9256382)

That's when 'professional' players start either flipping off the machine or abusing the game's control/start buttons.

No joke. I used to have to fix that shit.

StepMania (5, Informative)

Thatmushroom (447396) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256203)

This is the perfect time to plug StepMania, an open source version you can get here [stepmania.com] . I'm not a developer, just someone that enjoys short techno songs and a frantic workout.

not just good for the gamer... (1)

Doogie5526 (737968) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256206)

Im sure the bullies will be losing weight to beating the snot out of him.

Again? (2, Interesting)

Basje (26968) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256209)

Yesterday's article about DDR weight loss [slashdot.org]

Is slashdot sponsored by DDR?

Re:Again? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9256261)

OMG How did a dupe get on slashdot?!!?!?1 oh nevermind

obligitory (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9256309)

so how are you enjoying your first day here at /.?

Re:Again? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9256316)

You MUST be new here...

Re:Again? (5, Informative)

jpmkm (160526) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256342)

Read the first goddamn line of the writeup. Specifically the part where it says that it is a followup to the story you linked to. Yes, slashdot is sponsored by a fucking game. You figured it out.

Where have I seen this before? (0, Redundant)

Inoshiro (71693) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256214)

Oh, that's right [slashdot.org] .

It seems like CNN and Yahoo use the same AP news for DDR, and /. recycles the link for the same news on DDR. A simple search for "DDR weight" comes up with both the dupe and the original (posted by Cliff no less!).

Editors showing their lack of knowledge? (3, Informative)

-kertrats- (718219) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256215)

"up-up-down-down-a-a-b-a"

This konami code reference from the 'department' bar is horribly wrong. Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start is the correct code.

Re:Editors showing their lack of knowledge? (1)

sn0wcrash (223995) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256305)

The Ataris - End is Forever

Damn I'm good. Just ask me!

If only there was a Make-your-own DDR. (1)

geminidomino (614729) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256218)

I hate dance music, but some of my ManOwaR songs get up to 200BPM. That would be a workout. :)

Re:If only there was a Make-your-own DDR. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9256260)

Stepmania [stepmania.com] as mentioned in the previous thread is an open source implementation of DDR. If you want to make stages for those songs there are tools to do it. There are also, undoubtably, plenty of impossibly fast songs to choose from.

Re:If only there was a Make-your-own DDR. (1)

mrchaotica (681592) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256269)

There is. Maybe you should have read the other comments [slashdot.org] , or looked around a bit [icculus.org] (another link [gnu.org] )

--

Re:If only there was a Make-your-own DDR. (1)

sn0wcrash (223995) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256287)

William's Tale or Sting Of The Bumblebee? I forget which one is actually faster. But how do you dance to it? How many calories could you burn battling the armies of the world? What does it matter.. we're Immortals after all!

Ah crap! I'm at work... wearing cracker jack clothes... I'm so ashamed!

Re:If only there was a Make-your-own DDR. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9256435)

I hate dance music, but some of my ManOwaR songs get up to 200BPM. That would be a workout.

Into Glory Ride!

Repetitive Stress? (2, Interesting)

MarcQuadra (129430) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256219)

I'd worry about RSI injuries, DDR is a lot more intense than a focused workout, you're slamming the pads to make time somethines, whereas on a jog or a bike you can conrtol the physical impacts much better.

Re:Repetitive Stress? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9256290)

it's probably pretty good workout wise -- carpet on hardwood is more forgiving than running on asphalt. most importantly, you're varying your muscle groups more than more structured excercises (cycling, running, uh, jumprope...).

Re:Repetitive Stress? (1)

DigitaLunatiC (452925) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256360)

Well, you don't have to stomp. Even in the arcade it only takes a few pounds of pressure to activate one of the four sensors under each arrow.

Re:Repetitive Stress? (2, Informative)

c0dedude (587568) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256373)

The really good players make it look like dance and not like slamming. It's really troubling.

Other "Phyical" Games (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9256221)

I personally loving the many Boxing games that are around.
I've been doing martial arts for years and still find these games a challenge and I sure work up a sweat.

Perhaps there is a future in the "Virtual Fitness Industry!".

Re:Other "Phyical" Games (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9256237)

hmmm - "Phyical", when spoken aloud, is *almost* the same as "Fecal"..

important case of "spot the missing letter S" right there, folks.

h0 h0 h0

Re:Other "Phyical" Games (3, Interesting)

wibs (696528) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256380)

I've been doing martial arts for years and still find these games a challenge and I sure work up a sweat.

A challenge is right! Not too long ago a friend and I fed the boxing arcade machines way too many quarters because we just couldn't get past the first two guys. Most people would give up if a game was too hard for them that early in, but I go to the boxing gym 4 times a week and am involved in the amateur circuit, and my friend was a Los Angeles County champion in Karate (and is currently serving in Iraq as an Army Ranger), so we were completely embarrased by 10 year old kids kicking ass in the game while we were struggling.

At one point it finally dawned on us that fighting like fighters was our problem - whereas in a real fight to avoid getting punched in the face you might duck your head and raise your fists, for the boxing arcade you move your fists away from the screen, to either side or below. In the real world, that's the equivilant of moving your hands as far away from blocking position as you can get them. So the game was reading our real world fighting technique as just standing in front of the punches.

I won't deny that they're a good time, but if you kick ass in the video game don't expect to be able to kick ass in an actual fight... kind of like how a good DDR player shouldn't expect to steal the floor at prom, I suppose.

putting the E in Exercise (3, Interesting)

Whitecloud (649593) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256222)

this isnt that surprising really, video games are a lot more interesting to some kids than sport. Its great to see some measurable positive results from gaming. Next we could have super fast text scrolling across our screens to 'train' us in speed reading.

PyDance (4, Informative)

steveha (103154) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256223)

There is a free software version of DDR, written in Python. It used to be called PyDDR but now it's called PyDance.

You can play it with a real dance pad, or just play it with your keyboard. I suspect you will not lose much weight if you play it with your keyboard, however.

http://icculus.org/pyddr/ [icculus.org]

steveha

StepMania (1)

gotr00t (563828) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256233)

There is even better software out there called "StepMania" and it functions almost perfectly, being an exact clone, if not better, of the official DDR interface.

There are both Windows and Linux versions avaliable, as well as source code. Avaliable here [stepmania.com] .

It dosn't come with any song/step files, however, you can make your own or download ones made by others. Word is, entire official DDR mixes for Stepmania are avaliable out there on the net.

Re:StepMania (1)

tritone (189506) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256341)

There are both Windows and Linux versions avaliable, as well as source code.
There's also an Mac OS X version on the same site [stepmania.com] .

Re:PyDance (2, Funny)

Coneasfast (690509) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256344)

I suspect you will not lose much weight if you play it with your keyboard, however.

i dunno, i just tried it and it seems pretty demanding even with your keyboard, you may get some workout ;) (although obviously not as much as with a pad)

Combination games! (2, Interesting)

Metallic Matty (579124) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256224)

This isn't exactly an original idea, but I thought I'd share it anyways.

A local arcade has Para Para Dancing (you use your arms, for those who are unfamilar,) and DDR 4th Mix. My friend and I always thought the ultimate work out game would be some mystical combination of the two. Made, that would get dead tiring (not to mention confusing as hell.)

I'm for a challenge like that though. Hard core gamer for life.

Re:Combination games! (1)

dododge (127618) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256332)

My friend and I always thought the ultimate work out game would be some mystical combination of the two

Konami already tried something like that: Dance Maniax [channelbeat.com] .

There are lots of other variations as well, but they're pretty rare. For example Martial Beat [channelbeat.com] . Some of these (including Martial Beat and Para Para Paradise) even have home versions in Japan.

Re:Combination games! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9256357)

Just like the shoujo manga world in Strange Candy? [strangecandy.net]

whatever gets you going... (1)

ezh (707373) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256229)

IMHO, people just need to work out! whatever that is - scary-looking gym machines, biking, jogging, skating, rollerblading, having sex (huh, like that one! :-), or play this musical jumping game. Work out! For fun and health!

Forget DDR for exercise... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9256230)

Go find a gym with aerobics & pilates classes.

The DuPont chemical company used to have a marketing slogan, "Better living through Chemistry."

The invention of spandex (when suitably displayed on a hottie) is clearly one of the best inventions in the history of chemistry.

Re:Forget DDR for exercise... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9256281)

i second that. plus the extra advantage of getting out of the house and being around people is probably as good mentally/socially as any DDR homestyle crap in your living room.

Re:Forget DDR for exercise... (3, Interesting)

Ankle (633399) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256284)

But going to a gym and wearing spandex really won't help the slashdot crowd. Sure we might lose weight but chicks defently won't find that cool, and spandex is just asking to get beat up(Just try going around wearing season 1 uniforms from ST:TNG).

Playing DDR not only is good exercise but the females totaly think it's cool. Your not playing some dorky game trying to kill things or collect items, your dancing! They love to dance! Now get out there and knock yourselves out, before you know it, you'll be slim and covered in chicks!

Re:Forget DDR for exercise... (1)

britneys 9th husband (741556) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256320)

Dumbass, he wasn't talking about slashdot geeks wearing spandex, he was talking about hotties (i.e. chicks) wearing the spandex. All you do is go to the gym (in normal clothes) and "enjoy the view."

I know the editors don't read the stories... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9256234)

but someone should really send cowboyneel a link to this one.

It Really Works (5, Interesting)

TJ_Phazerhacki (520002) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256239)

It's true! I used to laugh, say I would never play this game. And now, 2 months of DDR have me not only looking better, but feeling better as well. I am active in general - Football and Wrestling - But DDR has something neither of those have. The biggest problem with exersize is it's repetitived nature. But when you can practice a form (specific Dance) and recieve real time data based on your accuracy, it encourages it to repeat. So far, my only health conern has been the sheer addictiveness - I landed wrong on an ankle after a 4 hour marathon session, and was out for a week. But in general, the experience has been nothing but positive. Hope the next one is online - how about a /. competitive league?

It's two fold. (5, Funny)

ctime (755868) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256246)

Just imagine, not only will you be sweating off those 3 extra big macs you ate for lunch, but you'll also be providing hours of endless laughter and entertainment those around you!

And it is relatively cheap... (4, Informative)

SnakeJG (719306) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256274)

Most slashdot readers probably already have atleast an original Playstation (and if not, used ones can be had for around $20 to $30 or the computer version of DDR can be used). Throw in the cost of a good dance pad [buynshop.com] (~$50) and the game (another $20 to $30), and your workout system only costs you ~$100, including the cost for a Playstation.

I suggest a dance pad like the one above, because the form insert really helps cut down on the strain on your joints (a must if you are going to be DDRing often as a workout)

Excercise != Weight Loss (4, Insightful)

Max Romantschuk (132276) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256279)

Ultimately weight loss is not about how much you eat or how much you exercise. What you need is a negative energy input, on in plain English: You must burn off more calories than you take in.

The reason this works for some and not for others may well be the fact that people naturally increase their energy input (eat more) when their energy output (exercise) increases.

But regardless of if you loose weight or not, any activity causing your pulse to rise will make you more fit. Which is a good thing.

Re:Excercise != Weight Loss (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9256340)

that kind of thinking is what brings about balimics and anorexics. as the wording seems to stress taking in less.

its more of a positive energy output. kinda stresses more about the output and not the input. Sounds stupid but a lot of getting into an exersize regime is mental

Insensitive Clods!! (1)

tisme (414989) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256286)

What insensitive clods! What about those of us who need to pick up a few extra pounds? They need an exercise game that encourages eating more and doing exercises that build weight!

Or maybe a video game based on SuperSize Me bundled with discount coupons would be a more tasty way to approach it? :P

Re:Insensitive Clods!! (1)

Max Romantschuk (132276) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256367)

What insensitive clods! What about those of us who need to pick up a few extra pounds?

There's a solution for that. It's called The Skinny Bastard Diet [t-mag.com] .

Re:Insensitive Clods!! (1)

Jeremi (14640) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256394)

They need an exercise game that encourages eating more and doing exercises that build weight!


Perhaps this [charter.net] is the game you are looking for...

It's a PLOY I TELL YOU! (3, Funny)

gatesh8r (182908) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256291)

This will be placed right along side the Atkins diet! It's all a conspiracy by the neo-Zionist Christian Communist Right to get geeks to slim down! Soon there will be no more fat geeks, and then the geeks will marry, and then what will happen to Slashdot!?

Re:It's a PLOY I TELL YOU! (-1, Offtopic)

tarunthegreat2 (761545) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256325)

Yes, I am ANAL....Communist Right??!#@#!@ Saying that is the equivalent of having your legs pulled by two horses in opposite directions....

Re:It's a PLOY I TELL YOU! (1)

hurtfultater (745421) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256410)

Presumably they'll have to add another sidebar. We've only had one front page marriage proposal I can recall, but I was led to believe it was a one-time event.

Magic geekness loss pill it isn't (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9256293)

1) It's not "dancing."
2) It doesn't make you lose weight. Laying off the 2 boxes cheezit and 24 cans jolt/day, and running 10 miles makes you lose weight.
3) It doesn't attract women. Remember the 280-function calculator that you used to carry around in middle school and used to think was really cool? This is the same thing, only lamer.
4) If you're gonna be a videogame-playing, lazy fat geek, at least play the part.

Re:Magic geekness loss pill it isn't (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9256338)

You're a bitter sweaty old man. I bet you have an "under-13" profile on Yahoo.

Don't feel bad. I did, but she's over 13 now. I guess we all have to grow up sometime. Meet me at the 2nd floor arcade in the Mall, the men's room is right around the corner.

Didn't NES have a work-out game? (1)

shrewmy (37432) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256299)

Didn't they have something for their powerpad? I swear I've seen it before.
Semi related, we still bust out the powerpad sometimes at family get togethers. I forget the name of the game we usually play, but it's team based and has weird competitions (six legged race, pump up a bubble and run inside it) It used to wear out the whole family by the end of the night.

[PSA] THINK ABOUT YOUR MODERATION (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9256334)

Concentrate more on promoting than on demoting. The real goal here is to find the juicy good stuff and let others read it. Do not promote personal agendas. Do not let your opinions factor in. Try to be impartial about this. Simply disagreeing with a comment is not a valid reason to mark it down. -- Slashdot Moderation Guidelines

Also, Moderators, please note: if you are moderating down a comment that is already scored at 0, then you are most likely an idiot. Of course, if this is the case please stick to moderating obvious trolls and leave the modding of topical comments to those that know what they are doing. I mean, if you think modding down an inane score:0 first post is a good use of your mod points, then by all means go ahead an waste them--you obviously don't deserve them anyway.

Thank you for your time.

Re:[PSA] THINK ABOUT YOUR MODERATION (-1, Offtopic)

Qrlx (258924) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256377)

For instance, this comment will probably get some negative mod points, and it really doesn't need any. But I'm using my +1 Karma Bonus (and I just realized how amazingly gay that sounds. DM can I get a +2 Karma Bonus? Shit where was I. Shit gotta close the parens. ) Shit. Well anyway, unless you can fathom a world in which this post might ever be read, YOU MUST MOD IT DOWN, ESP IF OTHERS HAVE ALREADY DONE SO. THOSE MOD POINTS ARE THE ONES THAT RE TRACKED IN THE SECRED SLASHDOT MODERATION DATABASE. I CAN'T SAY MORE UNLESS YOU MOD ME DOWN TO OBLIVION!!!!! -7 IS A GOOD START.

DDR....*sigh* (3, Interesting)

Samah (729132) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256336)

Yeah DDR is/was fun for me.
I still enjoy playing it occasionally, but about 6 months ago I hit a brick wall where I stopped getting any better.
I played for about a year, and there's only a few songs on Extreme (arcade version) I can't pass (most of the 10-footers except for Sakura, Bag and Paranoia Survivor which are quite achievable with practice).

The problem is that it's really expensive if you want to get good. I've pumped at least AU$300-400 into DDR both at lock-ins (ie. 6 hours of unlimited play for AU$13 etc.) and just normally (AU$2 for 4 songs).
No doubt about it being a good workout. After playing for 6 months I went down from about 85kg to 74kg.
I stopped playing and started eating pizza again and I've put so much weight back on (ie. almost 20kg).

It kinda got boring for me as I found a new game (Beatmania IIDX).

By all means, don't just pass DDR off as lame like many of my "friends". God knows the number of payouts and sexual preference innuendo I've received from them for playing it ("not that there's anything wrong with that!").

It is fun in moderation, and if you're determined to get into it (and you have a lot of kesh), it WILL keep you fit.

Good endurance songs (not necessarily difficult):
So Deep (Heavy)
Can't Stop Fallin' In Love/Speed Mix (Heavy)
Rhythm and Police (Heavy)

Re:DDR....*sigh* (1)

Qrlx (258924) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256432)

It's certainly not cheap, but it's probably not that much more than joining a nice gym.

At the good rate your paying two goldbucks an hour. That's very cheap compared to other forms of "entertainment" and you are actually getting some benefit from it, as oppposed to staring at a movie screen eating popcorn or trolling on slashdot.

Reminds me of Surf Surf Revolution. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9256346)

It's a Japanese video. I wonder wny they call it Surf Surf Revolution.

As much as I hate DDR, this is a great thing (1)

Killswitch1968 (735908) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256349)

Not too long ago (and even today) gamers were stereotyped as social recluses who couldn't interact beyond the realm of their own computer. But with the internet, multiplayer gaming is common place, spawning catch phrases like netiquette and the establishment of clans and clubs.

Now gamers are purportedly too fat, too skinny, too pasty, or some other unhealthy physical attribute. I hope that DDR represents a small-scale gaming trend where games become more physically intense. Imagine if some of the games out today could be adapted like that.

Or more likely they'll end up in that great Power-Glove graveyard in the sky.

Survive! (1)

ryouki7000 (531557) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256358)

I'm already thin, I cannot diet :)

Stop drinking sugar! (5, Informative)

dybdahl (80720) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256364)

The biggest problem for most computer gamers I know, is that they drink cola with sugar and eat candy bars. Their biggest arguments for not drinking diet coke are: doesn't taste well, aspartam is dangerous for your health.

They simply don't get the priorities right - being overweight is much more dangerous than drinking diet coke! The only way to lose weight is to consume less kilojoule (4,18 Joule = 1 Calories for those Americans who don't understand the metric system) than you spend on living. If you want to continue drinking sugar-cola and eat candie bars, you really have to do a lot of exercise!!! - more than most people with that kind of weight problems can or will do.

Personally I lost 15kg in 5 months without doing any exercise, without any special plan for what I eat, just by replacing coke with diet coke and removing all fat and sugar from my meals, replacing food with low-energy and diet products. At Christmas 2004 I expect to have lost 30kg, and spring 2005 I expect to have lost 35kg, and then I have reached my ideal bodyweight and will have to do something to keep my weight up :-)

others way to loose weight (3, Insightful)

nzin (409890) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256368)

It certainly helps, but if you still eat too much, that will certainly not change radically. I'm in the US since a month and weighty people is a stunning reality.

For my own person (and it engage only me) I see some bad habits (that I begin to take):
- not eating at regular schedule and eating all day long
- piece are so huge!!
- go to work by car ; it is known that walking
every day (1/4 jour or half an hour) is very
healthy.

Link to that I read an article about a doctor that
sold a slim method that worked: instructions specified just 2 things:
- take the pil after the dinner, at around 8PM,
- don't eat anything after

nothing more.

After a period of time, 2 facts have been revealed:
- treatment was working
- the doctor was prosecuted, because he was selling a placebo.

Indeed the doctor played on the fact that people was still eating after the dinner during all the evening.... quite smart.

my 2 cents

Re:others way to loose weight (1)

Qrlx (258924) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256401)

I think your "stunning reality" is very accurate. Eating has almost been removed from consciuosness in America. Fast food meals surrounded by strangeres, or even in the isolation of your own car. Welcome to America, and enjoy the Freedom Fries. ;)

There are plenty of healthy active people, but it's very easy to be a "couch potato" as well.

I only know a few people who aren't overweight, and most of them are drinking at the bar several nights a week. Only one or two are truly "healthy." Or maybe beer is good for you! That's what I'm counting on.

You fat slobish bastards (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9256371)

Try eating less, and doing stuff besides sitting infront of a computer. Since 95% of slashdot is OBESE, not just fat but OBESE, and another 4% is overweight maybe you fat bastards should out ediets.com on your list of sites to visit BEFORE slashdot, so you can loss some of those calories. Average American has 10 pounds of rotting meat in the colon. You all probably have a good 50 pounds. No wonder you're all full of it and still use Debian!

I know that chick who lost all that weight... (2, Interesting)

Kevin98003 (618976) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256388)

If you check out the www.getupmove.com website, you will notice a gal by the name of Tanya Jensen. I used to work with her at Microsoft testing for the XBox group. What a trip!

Re:I know that chick who lost all that weight... (0, Offtopic)

Qrlx (258924) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256419)

Did you get to stick it in her?

If you have the h/w and s/w (2, Informative)

vchoy (134429) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256403)

You can go to ddrfreak [ddrfreak.com] and go check out some stuff there.
There's song lists, codes, step charts and chat forums to meet up with out ddr fans out there.

Good luck, and have fun.

DDR Workout (1)

AnomalyConcept (656699) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256413)

(sorry, couldn't think of a better subject.)

My friend remarked at the end of the 2nd semester that DDR was the only thing keeping him in shape, as us aspiring engineers don't have as much opportunity to do, well, active things.

I'm not sure if DDR can be classified as aerobic, though. True, you don't get a break until after the song (or if you fail), but songs are generally 3 minutes, and so does not meet the definition of aerobic.

It does, however, cause you to jump around a lot (only if you're doing difficult songs), and it is almost like running in place, but with more coordination.

I get my DDR pads (that I ordered from eBay) on the 27th. Tomorrow if I'm lucky. I'm ready to shed some pounds. =P

I can vouch for the title (5, Interesting)

vsage3 (718267) | more than 10 years ago | (#9256437)

I've been playing various versions of DDR (as well as Stepmania) for about two years. I couldn't even jog a mile, heck I couldn't walk it without cramping up, but since then I've been able to pass pretty much every song (sans Paranoia Survivor Max Oni), and through this, I can now run a mile in less than seven minutes. I wasn't ever fat to begin with so unfortunately I don't have any I lost 100 lbs story, but wow, having not done any other physical activity besides type on a computer for close to 6 years (when I quit soccer due to lack of being in shape), I can run a freakin 6:40 mile. Hail DDR in all its nerd-refining glory!
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