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The Aroma of Fine Wine From Your Computer

michael posted more than 9 years ago | from the smells-like-teen-spirit dept.

Hardware 136

SonomaSteve writes "Wine Spectator Magazine is reporting on a new computer accessory that could have you smelling fine Burgundy wine over the web. The prototype, called Olfacom, is being developed by France Telecom and showcased by the Bureau Interprofessionnel des Vins de Bourgogne (BIVB.) The technology uses 'essential oils' stored in several tanks inside the peripheral to generate aromas like hay, flowers and fruit. Will Olfacom be more successful than DigiScents? The French say, 'Mais, oui!'"

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Could it be? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9283929)

Fist Pr0st?

What Does A BSOD Smell Like? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9283931)

And how do you simulate the scent of cold steel?

Re:What Does A BSOD Smell Like? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9283937)

i cant beleive you are up thinking of stuff to first post about........and yet they are all incredibly, spectaculiary LAME!

go get drunk
oh wait, in four years go get drunk, bitch!

Obligatory (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9283932)

Imagine the applications in porn!

Actually, it would probably result in some shocking realizations for most geeks.

Re:Obligatory (1)

mog007 (677810) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284093)

Speaking of which, whatever happened to smell-o-vision? Forget HDTV, let me smell the ribs from the Applebee's ad, or the Tacos from the Mexian sitcom.

Re:Obligatory (1)

ronsonal (783620) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284102)

This is not neccesarily just a humorous quip ; there are all sorts of niche interests for olfactory fetishists.

I doubt anything will ever come of this sort of thing, but it does have the potential to revolutionize certain businesses. That is what the entrepeneuers are always thinking about, and that's why this technology keeps resurfacing every few years.

Re:Obligatory (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9284167)

You talk big, but we all know you're talking about Japanese businessmen and used panties.

Re:Obligatory (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9284183)

You're wrong, for many geeks there would be no chance of smelling the computer over their own masking odor.

asdf (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9283933)

FIRST PSOT

China Lake (3, Insightful)

Shriek (261178) | more than 9 years ago | (#9283934)

Back in the early 90's wasn't the U.S. Navy doing research like this in conjunction with their virtual reality research programs going on at the China Lake Naval base in California?

Erm... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9284018)

No, no they weren't.

Good try though.

Uh oh! (4, Funny)

Phekko (619272) | more than 9 years ago | (#9283935)

Talk about adding a whole new level to the Goatse experience!

Re:Uh oh! (3, Funny)

HBI (604924) | more than 9 years ago | (#9283939)

Umm, which 'essential oil' is going to generate that scent?

Re:Uh oh! (1)

torpor (458) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284249)

all of them, mixed up in a horrid hijack of the device, into pure fetid pungence, reminding you of a gaping open wound ...

Re:Uh oh! (1)

Cranky_92109 (414726) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284529)

Umm, which 'essential oil' is going to generate that scent?

Ummmmm, I'm gonna guess 'crude' oil. Baaahahaha!!

Re:Uh oh! (1)

Pinkfud (781828) | more than 9 years ago | (#9283940)

Ooooohhh, yeah! I wanna put this on my website and make my viewers smell poop! Nyaaa-ha-ha-haaaa!

They've finally done it... (1)

Tokerat (150341) | more than 9 years ago | (#9283950)


Smellevision...and here I thought it would always be a bad joke from the 80s...

Re:They've finally done it... (1)

ruprechtjones (545762) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284010)

It is still my opinion that foodnetwork.com (the good ol' food channel) will be the first to introduce smellable websites, or at least plug-ins.

we'll see.

Seriously, though... (4, Informative)

blorg (726186) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284049)

...Smell-O-Vision [ufl.edu] *was* a short-lived movie fad in 1960. During the 50s in particular the movie industry tried lots of gimmicks (e.g. 3D) to counter the rising popularity of TV. The only one that really took hold (unfortunately in the view of many directors) was widescreen. One would think that all the people pursuing computer smell attachments would have learned from that experience.

Re:Seriously, though... (1)

danharan (714822) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284847)

The only equipment that I could see making good use of scent are 3D simulation games, or army/intel training games. Teaching people how to pay attention to everything around them, including smells.

For games, I can only imagine this being part of a deeply immersive experience, although that would require much better screen resolutions, probably some 10 years off.

Until then, this is going to stay a niche thing

Re:They've finally done it... (2, Funny)

kfg (145172) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284060)

I'm still waiting to get my, ummmm, hands on, Feel-A-round!

KFG

Re:They've finally done it... (2, Interesting)

FireBreathingDog (559649) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284838)

I want to make sure these odor output devices are interoperable. What is Microsoft ends up locking up the market with some sort of proprietary system? What if they deliberately rework Windows to make competing devices smell like shit?

Thankfully, there's an RFC for a truly open protocol: the Olfactory Transport Protocol (OTP) [rru.com]. Hopefully, people will use it.

Again? (3, Interesting)

AstrumPreliator (708436) | more than 9 years ago | (#9283953)

I've heard about these types of devices quite a few times before. Infact I think the first time I heard about something like this TechTV was still known as ZDTV.

It's pretty obvious that it didn't work out before, I'm not sure why they're still trying.

call me when.. (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 9 years ago | (#9283954)

it can mix the wine perfectly from some basic ingredients available cheaply.

can't see the wine buffs falling for this though..

Time and again... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9283958)

I have lost count of all these gadgets. Every other month, some geekish junior entrepreneur comes up with the idea to put a few oils in a box and connect them to a modified bubble-jet printer's head.

First: How should this ever really work? There are millions of scents out there and our noses are really sensitive organs. How should five or ten different oils be able to reproduce all the variations? Remember, we are not talking of different frequencies of one single quality (as with light) but of really different substances. One cannot mix scents as on mixes colors.

Second: Even given it would work: Does anyone want such a thingy? Just wait till the first script kid out there writes a worm that fills half of the world's office cubicles with the nice smell of, [insert your favorite salacity here].

Re:Time and again... (2, Insightful)

ksp (203038) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284037)

Are you really sure it's impossible to mix scents to produce a certain experience of smell? Like synthetic flavours/smells, very different compounds create a similar perception of smell. I believe vanilla is more or less impossible to create synthetic, but many compounds have a "vanilla-like" smell. Just like we trick our visual perception by mixing colours or quickly displaying a series of stills - creating an illusion like what you are watching on your screen right now.

I would not be surprised if a limited set of smells (such as wine) can be synthezised.

I have previously seen kits with essential oils etc. that are sold as "wine taster games", I think you are supposed to reckognize certain base smells and score points. Smell characteristics such as blackcurrant, wood, smokey, leather etc.

Who would want it? Well, I would love to buy such a gadget and accompanying software to train myself into a wine connoisseaur - without having to open a single bottle of wine. I could "open" and test smell a $300 bottle of virtual vintage wine at work and drive home afterwards, no problem.
Then I could buy a real bottle and drink it with some friends at a later occasion, knowing in advance I would probably find it suitable for my taste.

Re:Time and again... (5, Informative)

Sycraft-fu (314770) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284196)

Smell is based on shape. The shape of the molecule seems to be what determines how it smells. Thus it's hard to achieve a small just through mixing. Further, your idea kind of contradicts itself. You note that we can create synthetic smells and tastes, yet then think this can be applied to something like fine wine. Well one thing you'll notice with the synthetics is that they aren't the real thing. They may resemble it to some degree, but they are quite far off. Eat a strawberry candy, then a real strawberry and tell me that they are the same thing.

For something like fine wine, where the smell is subitle and complex, it would totally fall flat. I mean that's what really makes fine alcohol fine. Wine smells and tastes like wine, be it jug wine or $300/bottle. However the finer vintages are more mellow, and have unique flavours and smells. Getting a synthetic to simulate something like the basic wine taste is probably no problem. Getting it to be like Opus One or Domaine de Chevalier is a whole different story.

Re:Time and again... (3, Informative)

tftp (111690) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284230)

I believe the difference here is that by mixing colors you can get all the colors in between. In fact, it can be mathematically proven (if you don't trust your eyes :-)

However there is no obvious way to mix smell of vanilla with smell of creosote and get the smell of rose, for example. Furthermore, you can not get the smells of varying roses by changing the amount of creosote or vanilla. Smells are not very additive.

This still doesn't mean that such a device is impossible. It only means that you need many different "essential oils" (a.k.a. stinky liquids) to generate some good number of smells.

But on the other hand such a device does not have to generate many smells. A marketdroid may be happy if each "oil" generates just one smell, and that's it - the device just can make 10 or 20 smells at all. This would be acceptably good to accompany TV ads, for example.

However I see no way in hell a device like this can recreate a smell of some good wine. It is even hardly possible to do in a chemical lab. Wine is quite a complex product. Year and age of the wood used to make the barrels may make a big difference; those 10 or so oils can't even approach that precision; I would be even surprised if they can recreate the smell of common beer - because they'd need to stock up on some yeast products among those oils, and these wouldn't last long in that cartridge.

The previous device failed, and this one is likely to follow. The main reason to that is not its limited spectrum of smells, but the absence of any need for the device. Sense of smell is not very strong in humans, and we are not driven by it as we are driven by vision or by hearing. There are theaters of vision (movies), there are theaters of word (drama) and music (opera etc.) but no smell theaters. We are just mostly blind to smells.

Re:Time and again... (1)

HBI (604924) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284703)

If you want to experience a 'smell theater', try the bathroom at my job around 5pm, before the janitor gets in there with his bleach.

Re:Time and again... (1)

golgotha007 (62687) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284273)

remember that 80's fad called 'Scratch 'N Sniff'? i remember some of those stickers smelling pretty damn real.
The basic idea behind scratch and sniff is to take the aroma generating chemical and encapsulate it in gelatin or plastic spheres that are incredibly small, about a few microns in diameter. Scratching ruptures a few of these spheres generating the smell.

with this idea, couldn't you make a box containing millions and millions of spheres, with a few thousand different types of spheres for various aromatic genres?

maybe something with a USB interface?

Re:Time and again... (1)

pviceic (531225) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284182)

The nose has about 30 differents sensors, which scent 30 different types of smells whose linear combinations produce all the "scentable" smells.
Same as your eye can see 3 different basic colors (+luminance), and with that you can see about 8*10 different linear combinations of that 3 base vectors, (yes 24bit colors is double that we can see), the same stands for smell, but with 30 "base vectors" - 30 sorts of oils.

Re:Time and again... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9284186)

Actually, there are only 30 something "primary scents" which we can detect.

Vapor (5, Insightful)

BodyCount07 (260070) | more than 9 years ago | (#9283960)

This has to be one of the longest running pieces of vaporware around. I've had to have ssen various articles about this type of technology for at least 5 years, with no products in sight.

Re:Vapor (5, Funny)

zcat_NZ (267672) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284068)

What's most amusing about it; even if it gets to market, it will STILL be 'vaporware' :)

My fears.. (1)

Barumpus (145412) | more than 9 years ago | (#9283962)

Let that crazy brother use this during a video chat from accross the country when he decides that a pull my finger joke is in order.

Re:My fears.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9284701)

Pull my finger.

that's pure evil (1)

tuxette (731067) | more than 9 years ago | (#9283971)

It's not nice to tease people with the aromas of fine wine and leave it at that. We want to be able to taste it too!

Re:that's pure evil (2, Informative)

twelveinchbrain (312326) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284040)

It's not nice to tease people with the aromas of fine wine and leave it at that. We want to be able to taste it too!

If you'd RTFA, you'd realize that not only are they not attempting to actually duplicate the aromas of fine wines, but that a critic has already made the exact complaint that you did.

No thanks. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9283974)

Today france sends us scents of wine. Tomorrow they send us scents of non-showering frenchies. ICK.

Fart.com (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9283983)

I can see Fart.com using this. A new smell everyday!

i thought this was old (1)

hax0r_par (776404) | more than 9 years ago | (#9283984)

and that this was already decided to not be something of much usage...? i cant imagine a hoarde of things i'd use it for, but i'm sure marketing has something in mind.

Wasted R&D (2, Insightful)

Bill_Royle (639563) | more than 9 years ago | (#9283995)

If you end up being able to replicate the smell of a good wine by mixing a couple of chemicals together (like you would with toner), I'm sure that many wineries would like the recipe. After all, they could cut costs by just using some non-toxic additive to their wine as well, right?

No - this would be a handy companion to an emailed "flaming bag of dogshit" pic, but for items with a high quality aroma, I wouldn't hold your breath.

Re:Wasted R&D (1)

velo_mike (666386) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284043)

If you end up being able to replicate the smell of a good wine by mixing a couple of chemicals together (like you would with toner), I'm sure that many wineries would like the recipe. After all, they could cut costs by just using some non-toxic additive to their wine as well, right?

That part has been tried and failed repeatedly. They can identify all the components of a given wine, catalog [aoweb.com] them and create the basic scent of a 1998 Bordeaux for example, but creating "wine" from the base compounds yields something not quite wine.

Re:Wasted R&D (1)

Kobal (597997) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284067)

It's quite obviously already done on a large scale, though the winemakers refuse to admit it. Mainly for crappy novelty wines like "Beaujolais nouveau". Most of its aroma comes from added aldehydes.

Re:Wasted R&D (1)

toxic666 (529648) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284275)

Conversely, some of the wineries in California have labs to run GC/MS, etc. on their pressed grapes and fermenting wines to blend and adjust balance, temerature, etc. All to get the best flavor and aroma from a batch of juice.

But there is also the yeast and wood used to age wine. Even though the yeast is carefully cultured in labs, small variations in yeast strains and the fermentation temperature make a big differnence in the final wine's esters, fusel alcohols, phenols, etc. Wood varies from year to year, too. Nature just isn't entirely controllable, so vive la difference and enjoy what you get.

Another readily- (and cheaply) tested example of your point would be comparing the plastic jug of $0.79 grocery store vinegar to good red wine (better still, authentic Italian balsamic) vinegar. The jug at the grocery is made from soulless corn industrial ethanol, red wine vinegar from tolerable grapes, while the balsamic is made from fine wine grapes and aged in wood. No comparison, never will be. That's why the balsamic starts at $75 per bottle.

Take it from a home ale, wine and vinegar maker -- you can't fool mother nature.

File formats (3, Funny)

jjgm (663044) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284011)

I have odor reconstruction hardware, but people always send me .wif files!

Unfortunately it accepts only compressed Nosepeg.

The smell of geek... (1)

MosesJones (55544) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284014)


Socom X, don't just hear your buddies, get to smell them too....

Including genuine "rotting corpse" smell when you make a kill.

Then again the smell of grass as you walk onto the football pitch would be superb.

It has pornographic potential (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9284035)

Imagine what potential this will have for pornographic websites.

Penis smell enhancment spam (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9284046)

I can see the marketing for this now.

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obvious (1)

k-zed (92087) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284052)

one word: pr0n

indeed, it might be interesting to experiment with additional pheromone tanks. w3c would need to extend css with olfactory properties..

is an inverse peripheral (scent detector) in development somewhere?

This is vapourware (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9284057)

This is vapourware, literally (in all senses.... wow mindfuck there huh?)

or should I say "I smell a rat!"

"This all smells a bit fishy"

Shakespeare (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9284533)

"Something is rotten in the state of Denmark"

We don't need no stinking SmellO'Vision!? (1)

layer3switch (783864) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284095)

...really, it stinks. I can smell that thang here from France.


-- "ok, which one of you /.er farted?

Sweet Smell of Wine (1)

rpiquepa (644694) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284108)

For more details and references about the technology behind Olfacom, including videos from France Telecom, you can read a recent entry on my blog, "Sweet Smell of Wine [weblogs.com]."

In other News... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9284110)

Microsoft has just released the latest patch for XP designed to prevent hackers from releasing unpleasant smells into unknowing users computers... an anonymous user said that the constant smell of BO from his computer had led to his divorce. "I thought it was the dog, but my wife clearly had other ideas..."

In a related incident, another computer owner lost his machine when his dog attempted to fornicate with it - "The stupid dog kept thinking that machine smelled like a bitch on heat..."
In Soviet Russia, the Computer smells YOU!
followed by
Well I for one welcome our odour-releasing overloads
followed by
I have a cold, you Insensitive CLOD!
followed by
Imagine a Beowulf Cluster of THESE puppies

the impossible (2)

unbiasedbystander (660703) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284120)

one thing I've always felt is that it would be impossible for france to be any MORE gay.

technology is always proving me wrong.

dupe (0, Offtopic)

jeefy (779704) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284122)

abit beat em http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mobile/display/ab it-digidice_3.html

Re:dupe (1)

jeefy (779704) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284353)

*sigh* mod, did you even read the page? where it obviously showed abit packaging aroma oils with their new htpc.

Alert: A new kind of DoS attack - H2S (5, Funny)

GEvo (637125) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284134)

[Munich] A teenager comes up with a new kind of distributed DoS attack - H2S after .

H2S virus/ worm targets vulnerable WINDOWS machines on the internet and causing the infected machines to reboot and releasing a small does H2S (a large dose of it will desensitize your olfactory) whenever the machine is connected to the internet.

Oh, it smells ...

A Large dose can kill (1)

takasuz (709172) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284608)

H2S is extremely poisonous. So you could use the setup to kill a person anonymously.

Didn't Maude have one of these? (1)

howman (170527) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284151)

I have wanted one since the first time I watched the movie Harold and Maude... I heard of this 'vapour ware' no pun intended before along with catch phrases such as "Movie Theatre", "Radio" and now "Computer". I usually have a pretty good nose for things that smell off, and this one is shooting fragerance to the back of my skull like I had breathed water up my nose. If it does happen to waft its way into stores, at least I will be able to send George Carlin my very own fart joke.

better than (smelling) wine, right in your fridge (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9284171)


strange brew [kombucha.org], that's good for you, & freely distributable, too.

Slow newsday? (0, Offtopic)

Nordicfire (781522) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284173)

Must be a slow newsday...

"Build your own dog wagon", "Is swap necessary?" and now this.

Re:Slow newsday? (1)

ronsonal (783620) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284206)

Put them all together, and what do you get?

A swapless machine that runs as fast as a dog wagon and stinks.

Wired (Stink Different) Nov. 1999 Digicent is here (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9284210)

"If this technology takes off, it's gonna launch the next Web revolution."

I thought.. (2, Funny)

Fullmetal Edward (720590) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284212)

I thought the French said "Go away or I shall mock you a second time".

Damn Monty python, next people will tell me theres no giant foot crushing things.

Re:I thought.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9284465)

Welcome to Mindhead...

Happy premise #1: There are no aliens.
Happy premise #2: There is no giant foot trying to squash me.
Happy premise #3: Even though I feel like I might ignite, I probably won't.

Robert K. Bowfinger: Now that you and your collages here at Mindfu--, head have had a chance to think, what do you say?

This is sad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9284216)

No wonder why almost every American is overweight. Come on people, you can LEAVE the computer to go get things.......

sounds like one of those bad future predictions (5, Insightful)

t_allardyce (48447) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284240)

Dont want to be a troll but:

No it wont be more successful

Smell add-ons are like flying cars - we can do it but no one wants it

Its not ironic, meaningful or in anyway interesting that "To a computer, the fragrance of a rose or a pine cone becomes just another group of zeros and ones"

Computer games dont need smell and hardcore gamers wont give a crap

No one will agree on a standard

People wont buy one just to take a wine tour especially when it cant even do the bloody wine smell!

Re:sounds like one of those bad future predictions (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9284415)

Why wouldn't you want a flying car?

Re:sounds like one of those bad future predictions (1)

ZackSchil (560462) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284683)

A-fuckin'-men. I want a flying car too. I don't think we have the technology to make a useful and safe flying car. I guess the helicopter is about the closest we have and even it is extremely expensive, uses tons of fuel, is loud, difficult to fly, and subject to tight weight restrictions.

Home brewing system... (1)

mikael (484) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284257)

I've Combined the cooling system of my PC with a beer making kit, so I can new brew my own beer at the same time as my PC is being overclocked.

Olfacom... (1)

TikiGawd (532465) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284261)

I swear I first read "Olfacom" as "Ofalcom". And I thought, "Yeah, that oughta sell real well..."

As a french (1)

chro57 (593073) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284377)

I must contribute that "Mais oui" is frequently used with the meaning : "No ways". As for smell, it cannot be decomposed in just a small dimension vector. You may need literrally thousands of basic smells, some of them very costly and unstable. France Telecom has once again wasted our precious socialist budget in pointless pseudo-public-serving R&D. They should have given this money to me. I would have done research in geographic database with it. -- The scientists are your friends. Trust the scientists.

"Ooooh, that smell!!!" (1)

warpcore (620641) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284573)

Classic song line brought to a PC near you. Why? Wait 'til the script kiddie crowd starts writing virii for MS boxes that hurl rotten eggs (and worse) at you randomly, or when you visit MS properties. Oh yeah, Hotmail will smell just fine!

Prior "art" from RealAroma (1)

Penguinshit (591885) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284579)


"you oughta get a whiff of RealAroma, the next big thing to make a stink on the Net, offering lucky users the chance to "Reach Out and Smell Someone," "Click and Sniff" and "Surf and Smell." Yes, this heaven "scent" technology is definitely the cheese: using fragrance push and ATML (Aroma Text Markup Language) you can "share smells in real time, over the Internet, with olfactory buddies all over the globe." Nobody nose better than the folks at RealAroma, who promise the release of SmellU SmellMe aroma conferencing software in the near future. You'll be "incensed" if you miss the developers' corner, which offers ATML tips and smell codes for apple blossom, bread baking, ballet slipper, b.o. (the moderate and NYC taxi varieties), lemon, pizza, sweaty headband and wet sheep, to name but a few."

Unfortunately, "realaroma.com" is now owned by someone selling fishing flies.

Let's all buy it! (1)

Windsawer (782566) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284656)

And some will make a very stinky virus! That will be great! Stinky world! And why buy degusting wine if you can put those essential oils into water to get the taste? Fool!

Mais? (1)

abram10 (755205) | more than 9 years ago | (#9284762)

Why does it always have to be "Mais, oui," instead of just "Oui"? Doesn't "mais" mean "but" and "oui" mean "yes"?
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  • ecode

"ecode" can be used for code snippets, for example:

<ecode>    while(1) { do_something(); } </ecode>
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