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World's Fastest Flash Memory Card?

CowboyNeal posted more than 10 years ago | from the jay-garrick-barry-allen-and-wally-west dept.

Data Storage 311

ResQuad writes "Digital Photography Review has an article about what is claimed as the fastest MMC Memory Flash Card. Not only is this new card 200% faster than any current SD card (rating it at about 22.5MB/s read), its also 2GB. Does anyone need 2GB of memory for their PDA?"

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Fastest memory flash (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9332128)

Helps me get the fastest first post ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re:Fastest memory flash (-1, Offtopic)

Goalie_Ca (584234) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332147)

yay, that's the 2nd in two weeks beyatches!!!!!!!! but this time i wasn't in class.

Re:Fastest memory flash (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9332166)

but this time you forgot to check the "Post Anonymously" box. beyatch.

Re:Fastest memory flash (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9332331)

as an onlooker i would like you to know that once you reach terrible karma, you no longer have the post anonymously checkbox. you have to fucking log out and post anonymously then log back in. it's been this way for over 8 months for me so i'm fucking used to it.

beyotchesz

Re:Fastest memory flash (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9332173)

Close chief. The correct spelling is "biotches".

-brandon

Re:Fastest memory flash (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9332178)

nice use of "post anonymously", you cock-smoking teabagger.

Oh yeah - don't forget your $699 licensing fee.

tux cartoon (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9332130)


check out this funny tux cartoon:

Tux Meets Microsoft Cash Cow [backtalkforums.com]

Media Playing (4, Insightful)

anamexis (753041) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332134)

Both these speeds and large capacities will become more and more important as we see better video capabilities come to the PDA market.

Music? (4, Insightful)

moberry (756963) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332216)

Mot only video, but with 2GB or more of storage. a PDA will make a fully featured music player. Windows Media player is fine for this. Quite possibly in the near future manufacturers will market PDA's not only for office, and email use but for portable auido.

Re:Music? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9332287)

Windows Media? Don't support proprietary formats. If not OGG, MP3.

Re:Music? (2, Interesting)

irokitt (663593) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332321)

If it costs less than the iPod, I know I would probably bite. Flash cards are inconvenient compared to a hard drive based player, but the niche is there. Right now, the chioce is between flash-based players like the Muvo (at 64-512 MB) and the iPod (more than 2 gigs but expensive). Something in the 2 GB range would close the gap. Make it 802.11 capable, and you could shop for online music right from the player.

Of course, I'd assume it will play Ogg Vorbis, right?

Re:Music? (3, Insightful)

kbranch (762946) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332439)

Flash cards are inconvenient compared to a hard drive based player, but the niche is there.

How can a flash card possibly be more inconvenient than a hard drive based player? Is drawing more power and breaking after a fairly minor fall now convenient?

Are you referring to the need to insert the card after you buy it as opposed to the iPod where it comes with the hard drive already installed? If so, how can the ability to easily upgrade the storage compare to the minimal effort of putting the card in for the first time?

lets a smart phone be an iPod free of carriers (2, Interesting)

spage (73271) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332307)

Indeed. I don't want to carry a phone and an iPod because I don't have three ears for two headsets. But I'd happily pay the money to put some decent storage on my next smartphone so I can listen to music on its hands-free headset.

The division between a high-end phone and a smartphone/PDA is becoming one of expandability. My spouse's excellent Sanyo VM 4500 plays sounds, pictures, and videos, but has no expandability: Sprint doesn't support the phone's built-in Java and PC docking capability because they want you to get media by paying them $15 a month. Meanwhile the promising Samsung SPH-i550 [palminfocenter.com] runs PalmOS and has the SD expansion slot and explicit docking. That's what I want.

Another amazing way to get your media on the go is using Rendezvous and Wi-Fi to share it from strangers [theregister.co.uk] . No memory card or phone network required.

Re:Media Playing (1)

bn557 (183935) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332335)

Both these speeds and large capacities will become more and more important as we see better video capabilities come to the PDA market.

Are you in a writing class in college right now? that reads just like a well done thesis statement.

[end somone complimenting someone about grammar on slashdot]

Like a western movie (0)

Izanagi (466436) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332143)

1. Read
2. Store
3. Draw

BANG!!

Re:Like a western movie (0, Redundant)

irokitt (663593) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332396)

4. ????
5. Profit!

Good News... (4, Insightful)

Piranhaa (672441) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332144)

This is really good news for mini- formfactor systems. Some people just want to have a quiet PC without the noise and failure rate of a hard drive. The main thing holding people back is the performance of these cards, on top of the pricing. I wonder when entire computers will start switching to the fast access times of solid-state media like these!

Re:Good News... (or not) (2, Interesting)

attemptedgoalie (634133) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332177)

Aren't there a set number of accesses that a flash memory device can handle before they're toast?

I think that's what is holding back adoption of flash based PCs. Screw the expense, if the thing can't have a drive failure, some industries will buy it.

Flash wear leveling (4, Informative)

tepples (727027) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332262)

Aren't there a set number of accesses that a flash memory device can handle before they're toast?

Isn't there a set number of revolutions that a hard drive's bearings can take before it's toast?

An individual sector on a quality flash card will last for 100,000 writes. The competing "multi-level" flash technology, while slightly leading binary flash in capacity, lasts only about 10,000 writes. If you're curious, here's the difference [samsung.com] . Don't worry too much: CompactFlash cards perform wear leveling, which uses some spare sectors to make sure that no single sector gets overwritten overly often.

Re:Flash wear leveling (2, Funny)

attemptedgoalie (634133) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332269)

So there!

(nice answer) :-)

Re:Flash wear leveling (2, Informative)

Erwos (553607) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332318)

I suppose if you're really worried about write limits, you can also use JFFS (I think that's the one!), which also tries to minimize/spread the writing. I really doubt you'll have too much of an issue, especially if you use the CF for the OS and apps, and an ultra-quiet hard drive for data.

-Erwos

Re:Good News... (2, Insightful)

rodgerd (402) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332190)

What's wrong with a diskless client booting off a server? Especially in this day and age of NZ$300 gigabit switches...

Re:Good News... (1)

Piranhaa (672441) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332199)

I mean the average Joe who just wants to setup a really small router (say a VIA Epia), or gets someone to set one up for him. He doesn't want some Linksys one, he wants to get say OpenBSD on there with AltQ. Joe isn't going to have the desire to setup multiple computers on his network to have one boot off of... That's all I'm trying to say :)

Re:Good News... (3, Informative)

bestguruever (666273) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332252)

I'll buy the noise aspect, but flash is only good for a limitted number of writes so the failure rate is much worse.

Flash Memory (5, Insightful)

ctwxman (589366) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332146)

Ask any digital photographer. Memory is like closet space. One can never have enough - never

Re:Flash Memory (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9332403)

That's why there will be a 12Gb version

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0405/04052601pretec 12 gb.asp

Score;5, Profound (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9332426)

They'd be an idiot to put it all on one card, what if it fails.

Karma Whore

of corse not (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9332148)

Does anyone need 2GB of memory for their PDA?

Does anyone need more than 64k of memory?

Re:of corse not (0)

Xii (632693) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332168)

No, but 640k might be ;)

Wow, that is fast. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9332157)

But I hope they have a better origin story than 'A freak laboratory accident causes Dr. Gordon to be able to run very quickly'

What's interesting... (5, Interesting)

ne0nex (612727) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332163)

.. is the fact that the article says that it is backwards compatible with older MMC devices. I don't think this will be the case, I have a cheapo mp3 player for my phone (Sony Ericsson mp3 hands-free, the OLD one not the bluetooth one) and the device came with a 32 meg MMC, when i tried to get a 128 meg MMC card, it didn't work. Sony Ericsson said that the device is so old, that 128 meg MMC cards weren't even thought of. I doubt this 2 GIG MMC would work with this "older MMC device". Anyone else have the same experience?

Re:What's interesting... (1)

FRiC (416091) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332215)

MMC and SD cards are not always compatible with all devices. You need to actually test the card in your device before buying the card or find a detailed compatibility list that lists the card compatibility by serial number. I have two phones that use MMC cards, one phone that uses SD cards, and a Pocket PC that uses SD cards, and due to compatibility problems, each one of those devices has its own memory card. The two SD cards are even the same brand, but are made by different manufacturers.

So much for using a single memory card across multiple devices.

Re:What's interesting... (2, Informative)

MJOverkill (648024) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332231)

What they usually mean is that you will be able to use the card in older MMC devices, just not at full speed. You will be able to use the card at whatever speed your older device can attain. In your case though, it may have been a defect in that particular device. I have used newer memory cards with my older cameras and slot readers without any trouble.

Re:What's interesting... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9332386)

What you're coming across is an addressing problem... the older devices just don't have the address space to talk to 2Gb of card. Some will fall back and operate with what they can address, some won't talk at all.

ie, my ancient mp3 player won't talk to a 64Mb card, but my Pioneer CDJ-1000 will quite happily use only 16Mb of it.

Re:What's interesting... (1)

kwalker (1383) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332413)

Personally, I want to know if it's actually the thickness of an MMC card, or the thickness of an SD card. I've also got an MP3 phone, but it only handles the thinner MMC cards, I can't even get an SD card into the slot.

DNA (2, Funny)

Yonkeltron (720465) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332165)

Good! I am glad we have 2GB available. I am sick of carying a copy of the Human Genome on my Ipod.

i would love 2 GB (3, Interesting)

SKPhoton (683703) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332167)

I run Familiar [handhelds.org] linux on my iPaq. My ipaq has a mere 32 megs of flash ram. While this is enough for familiar, X, and a few applications, it gets filled up quickly. Once you start adding lots of packages, that 32 megs gets filled up very quickly. In order to get more space, I move all the binaries to an SD card.

Having 2 gigs available to store packages, not to mention music and even movies would be fantastic, especially for long trips.

Try using Pocket PC 2003 SE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9332233)

dumbass

Pfft. (0, Troll)

Noose For A Neck (610324) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332270)

Linux is too bloated to work effectively on small, embedded platforms like PDAs (X-Windows, I'm looking at you). Try Microsoft Windows XP Embedded, it runs in a small memory space, has a good GUI and won't randomly crash while starving your other applications of memory like a certain window manager I'm thinking of *cough*X*cough*.

MOD PARENT DOWN, VIOLATED GROUPTHINK (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9332301)

the thought police will be programming you, errr I mean, meeting with you now.

Re:Pfft. (1)

John Hurliman (152784) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332416)

Linux is to bloated, or X? What about QT/Embedded?

Wonder how much it costs (-1, Offtopic)

timgoh0 (781057) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332169)

And what happens if you lose it.

Re:Wonder how much it costs (5, Funny)

cbreaker (561297) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332213)

What happens to anything if you lose it?

What kind of question is that?

Re:Wonder how much it costs (1)

bestguruever (666273) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332275)

It depends on the type of item. Ball point pens are a particullarly intersting case. They sneak off to a planet inhabited exclusively by ball points and enjoy a uniquely ball point lifestyle. At least, that's the theory; Nobody has been able to locate such a planet. btw, you should check out www.cheappens.com

Re:Wonder how much it costs (1)

hdd (772289) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332330)

Okey...

The most offtopic post of the day award goes to...bestguruever

Interesting, neverthelesss.

Re:Wonder how much it costs (1)

paulthomas (685756) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332420)

How high is the sky? How deep is the sea? Who is John Galt?

Re:Wonder how much it costs (1)

hdd (772289) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332221)

I suppose you can get insurance for it as well. BTW, it's fairly safe as long as you keep it with your device (camera, ppc, etc), unless someone want to steal it purposly or you tend to loss things regardless of their sizes.

memory drives (1)

penguinoid (724646) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332172)

I liked the idea of using memory instead of a hard drive (esp. for a laptop), except that now I started using several Gb of hard drive :-( Although I suppose a system would work out that almost never uses the disk.

Too bad they aren't cheaper. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9332174)

It's nice to see the flash memory go up in size. II want a computer with solid state HDs and flash memory. But then again, I don't want to pay $25,000 for it either.

Does anyone need 2GB of memory for their PDA? (3, Insightful)

saha (615847) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332175)

Not yet, but people are ripping out the 4GB Microdrive from the iPod minis for their digital cameras. One of the biggest bottleneck for digital photography is the write speed. The XD standard is an attempt to address this issue. This new fast memory is a step in the right direction. I'd like to see 25MB RAW images generated by a camera shooting 4fps writing without delay onto memory. Thats when I'll sell my Nikon 90s and fully convert to digital.

Re:Does anyone need 2GB of memory for their PDA? (2, Informative)

grendel_x86 (659437) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332380)

They arnt doing this w/ iPod minis, they are using CL muvos. The iPods HDs are modified physically to prevent this, the muvo's on the other hand, is not.

So can buy a $400 mp3 player, for the $500+ hd for your DSLR, and then ebay off the mp3 shell for $50.

If somebody has figured out how to rewire the iPod, it hasnt been on any of the photo forums, unlike the muvo guides.

Yes. (1)

rodgerd (402) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332176)

Unless, of course, you want to tote your PDA, iPod, PSP, and some sort of mobile video player.

PDAs are no longer just about taking notes (and, indeed, haven't been for some time). They're general purpose computers.

ALso note that you can now get 12 GB GF cards.

Re:Yes. (1)

hdd (772289) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332191)

You meant CF, right?

Re:Yes. (1)

rodgerd (402) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332211)

Ayuh.

Re:Yes. (1)

Zardus (464755) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332402)

ALso note that you can now get 12 GB GF cards.

Do these cards require a Blade Server-style plugin deal? If so, which way to they plug in, and what "ports" are on the open side?

More tech info needed (5, Insightful)

hdd (772289) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332181)

Move on guys, this is nothing more than a press release. Unless someone one can provide more info on exactly whis is inside that is making it faster or some REAL benchmark results.

fast, large flash cards (1)

belmolis (702863) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332182)

Large, fast flash cards like this are good for high-quality (no lossy compression) portable audio recording too. Right now the larger capacity devices are PCMCIA hard drives, but they have a larger form factor and are less convenient and probably more subject to mechanical shock too.

Audio needs only "fast" (3, Interesting)

tepples (727027) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332326)

Large, fast flash cards like this are good for high-quality (no lossy compression) portable audio recording too.

Even at 24/96 stereo, live audio needs less than 600 KB/s sustained write speed. Recording in 3D Ambisonic surround [ambisonic.net] takes only double that. This page [robgalbraith.com] claims that a CF-compatible Microdrive cartridge can write at over 4 MB/s, so it should have no problem with data rates typical of live audio capture.

You do still have a point about durability [fredmiranda.com] however.

I need this!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9332183)

Does anyone need 2GB of memory for their PDA?"

pr0n, sweet, glorious, mobile pr0n.

"Does anyone need 2GB of memory for their PDA?" (1)

Trogre (513942) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332187)

Sure, I do.

That way I could happily carry around over 500 high-quality oggs wherever I go, as opposed to the 60 or so I get with my current 256MB card.

Great for those long car rides.

Oh yes, I want it (4, Interesting)

orthogonal (588627) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332194)

Does anyone need 2GB of memory for their PDA?

I don't need, but i want it.

Since my Archos broke down, and the "repair shop" "fixed" it -- "fixed" it so it will never work again -- I've been using my Zaurus PDA as an MP3 player.

I can get about six or seven albums*, in MP3 format, on the 512 MB SD card, so the 2 GB would give me room for about 24 albums.

And I see that this new card is faster, which will be nice: getting all those MP3s on the card does take a while.

Any idea how much the 2GB card will retail for?
*
./Opera/D'Oyly Carte Opera Company/H.M.S. Pinafore (1930) (update)
./Opera/D'Oyly Carte Opera Company/The Very Best of Gilbert and Sullivan (2 CD set)
./Opera/D'Oyly Carte Opera Company
./Opera
./Classical/Ludwig van Beethoven/Symphony no 3 in E flat major, Op. 55 Eroica
./Classical/Ludwig van Beethoven/Symphony no 9 in D minor, Op. 125 Choral
./Classical/Ludwig van Beethoven
./Classical/Brightest Heaven of Invention Flemish Polyphony of the High Renaissance (New London Chamber Choir)
./Classical/Aston Magna/J.S. Bach_ A Musical Offering
./Classical/Aston Magna
./Classical

Re:Oh yes, I want it (1)

.com b4 .storm (581701) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332363)

P> Since my Archos broke down [...] Any idea how much the 2GB card will retail for?

Probably more than a replacement Archos.

one giant leap for PDA media (5, Insightful)

antimatt (782015) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332195)

In five years, when everyone has a PDA with 50GB of solid state storage space, we'll look back at this and wonder why we ever wondered about it. Yes, we WILL eventually need (or at least perceive that we need) this much space.

As things stand, it frustrates me that I can only store approximately one movie trailer on my PDA. This is just the expected step forward. There will be more to come; I anticipate it all with great anticipation.

quick cards (4, Insightful)

SKPhoton (683703) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332207)

Is there a need for speedy memory cards? Absolutely!

Think about sports photographers. They definitely need quick cards to save the last picture and be ready for the next play. Never underestimate the importance of timing in digital photography.

Re:quick cards (1)

hdd (772289) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332257)

Most high end digi camera can already store large of pics in its frame buffer, so unless if you take more than 30 pics (which is most than enough for sport event etc.), fast memory card like this one would give you any signifcant performence boost.

Re:quick cards (1)

nick0909 (721613) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332346)

Except from what I understand those buffers take a ton of battery power and if you could go right to the card fast enough it would eliminate some of the parts inside. Smaller, lighter, faster. It can be better.

MOD ME UP, CREATIVE BILL GATES IS DUMB JOKE (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9332209)

anyone need 2GB of memory for their PDA?

I doubt it, 640k should be enough for anybody.

Re:MOD ME UP, CREATIVE BILL GATES IS DUMB JOKE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9332232)

MOD PARENT DOWN, thou art completely redundant:

http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=109929&cid=9 33 2148

Re:MOD ME UP, CREATIVE BILL GATES IS DUMB JOKE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9332249)

at least I got the size right, you jackass

Memory card as computer storage (4, Insightful)

fembots (753724) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332219)

Recently I have been pondering about using my 512MB SD card as a permanent storage for my computer, so that I can install applications and games and run off it.

However, after further investigation, and the stats from this article, memory card is still too slow for day-to-day computing usage.

USB2.0 is about 480mbps (~60MB/s), so the bottleneck is now with the memory card.

So I guess the fastest is still not fast enough.

Ext3 journal (1)

j1m+5n0w (749199) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332223)

That thing's almost as fast as a hard drive. I wonder if it would be possible to use it to store the journal file for ext3, to avoid writing data out to the hard drive twice. Or maybe it could be used to hold the swap partition (no seek time == fast page faults), though buying more ram would no doubt be cheaper.

-jim

Re:Ext3 journal (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332345)

I remember that some servers store a filesystem journal on flash memory. However, flash memory does wear out eventually, and if you accumulate enough journal over the life of a flash card to fill the card 100,000 times over (rather likely if you're doing data journaling such as in a database application), you'll need a new flash card. How fast do typical file systems accumulate journal data?

Re:Ext3 journal (1)

smcavoy (114157) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332404)

well afaik the journal is updated before and after each write operation. that would equal a lot. I believe most flash memory is usable for 1m writes in total.

The poster isn't very creative... (1)

centralizati0n (714381) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332225)

I could imagine plenty of uses.

- Digital movies / replacement iPod
- Complete Linux system for the iPaq or any other linux-capable handheld, including bunch of window managers, web browsers, the full deal...
- uh... pictures?
- Very detailed handheld games
- Portable databases needed for business and whatnot
...

The list goes on.

Re:The poster isn't very creative... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9332422)

Now if only they could come up with a 100GB version for my Pr0n ...

pda mp3 player (1)

ctour (645366) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332229)

2 gigs would be pretty nice on a pda if you used it to play mp3s.

The problem... (1)

baywulf (214371) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332239)

I work at a company that makes flash memory card components. Often the problem is not the card speed but that of the interface it plugs into. That USB 2.0 card reader may say it goes at 480 Mb/s but they never say anything about the media interface which is much slower. We really have to search hard to find a fast card reader.

Re:The problem... (1)

sakusha (441986) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332299)

Read the Pretec website, they also released an MMC 4.0 spec memory card reader. Wouldn't be a very useful memory card if there wasn't a compatible reader.

In other news... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9332253)

Construction worked called to National Geographic HQ offices to patch holes in walls, made when photographers heard this news and sprang raging hardons that destroyed surrounding drywall.

Hell yes I want that much storage on my pda (1)

StormyWeather (543593) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332254)

My treo 600 is like a lifeline for me. I have it loaded with about 50 mb of applications now, and quite a few pictures. Also I use it to store files and transfer them from computer to computer. I don't even have enough room on a 128 mb stick for more than a few mp3's when I'm done with all the other junk on there.

massively offtopic, but important (-1, Offtopic)

222 (551054) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332255)

Burning karma, but my stories are never accepted, and this is an interesting [bbc.co.uk] article on how patent reform is progressing in the US.

Re:massively offtopic, but important (0)

runderwo (609077) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332430)

That's because you submitted a dupe [slashdot.org] , not that Slashdot editors usually care about such things.

Re:massively offtopic, but important (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9332440)

Save your karma [slashdot.org] .

Flash cards aren't solely used for audio and fotos (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9332279)

We at our company develop mobile solutions. Flash cards are used for a lot more than digital photography and audio at pda's. Yes, we welcome 2GB flash cards in our ruggedized pda's and on-board computers.

Slashdot has changed over the years... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9332295)

I clicked to view this topic, set my Threshold to -1, selected "Nested" as the display style, and immediately hit Ctrl-F and typed "porn".

"The text you have entered was not found."

WTF?! Where is the slashdot I know and love?

MOD PARENT DOWN, USES WINDOWS (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9332309)

and oh yeah, its "pr0n" nowadays

Zaurus (1)

dangerz (540904) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332304)

"Does anyone need 2GB of memory for their PDA?"

apparently you've never used a zaurus.

since when does need... (1)

riprjak (158717) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332305)

...have anything to do with want :)

Does anyone need 2GB of memory for their PDA?

I dont need it, Im sure... unless I start loading pr0n as well as ebooks onto my PDA... byt I sure as shite *want* it for high geek factor ;)

Im damn certain my girlfriend wants it for her digital camera... she keeps bitching that 128MB isnt enough and wants to nick my PDA's 512MB; the concept of deleting images seems to be foreign to her :)

err!
jak

Flash porn! (1)

crawdaddy (344241) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332316)

Now you see it...*FLASH*...now you don't!
If this isn't the best thing for geeks with nosy significant others, I don't know what is!

the only use (1)

shizke (765004) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332327)

i have a 256 MB card on my Axim X5, and i have yet to find good use for it. (i own an ipod, so music isn't a concern). a 2GB flash card would be awesome for a Digital Rebel...all those high-quality pictures stored on a huge memory card, as opposed to the 650 MB card that i currently have on it.

on a related note... (1)

CobwoyNeal (778670) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332329)

what's the best place to get good porn for free?

Slashdot on a Thursday night (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9332340)

Why are you fucking reading this? Go to a fucking bar and get laid, you fucking Slashdot loosers!

You don't want to go there...... (-1, Troll)

catiz (315302) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332351)

Bill Gates (1983) - "Nobody will ever need more than 640 kB RAM."

A better question... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9332360)

...is how long will it be before we can "cheat" by plugging in some of the various USB portable cards into USB slots and use them instead of hard drives?
I'm guessing they aren't fast enough now?
The cool part about that is if a crash occurred, you'd have intact content. And you could always put enough memory on the box for virtual drives.

(or is this really silly?)

I've got an HP IPAQ 2215 (2, Insightful)

ranger714 (580794) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332379)

And i will freely admit to lusting after the cheapie 4 gig microdrives in the nomad mp3 player.... the greatest benefit to my IPAQ and the primary reason that i purchased it was the fact that it has both CompactFlash and SDIO expansion slots...

i had planned to get the 4 gig microdrive for storage of media files (maybe a couple gigs of MP3s, a few hundred megs of ebooks and a few movies) and a SDIO wifi card for wlan. I hadn't thought of movie files, but you can get a 256meg rip of a dvd with stereo sound and full-PDA resolution... pretty nice for travel! I just burn a few to cd/dvd for longer trips and transfer then around when necessary.

So if someone just wanted to gift a 2gig SD card to a poor technician, i sure wouldn't look that gift horse in the mouth... ;-)

Re:I've got an HP IPAQ 2215 (1)

polecat_redux (779887) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332408)

Be careful when you go searching for a WiFi card. I've tried a couple of the CF variety, and at least one of them (Socket brand) would drain the battery power even after disabling the radio and turning off the PDA (I also have the 2215). The whole prospect of having to unplug the card each time I put the PDA down, and then having to keep track of the card just seemed a bit more cumbersome than it should be.

Consumer Unawareness? (4, Funny)

Ms.XingTianCai (785422) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332398)

So, will this mean that all the people out there who must have the best of the best of the best but have no idea how to use it will rush out and arm themselves with 2GB for a digital camera they never use thus creating a huge spike in sales, eventually driving the cost down and making them more accessible to us money-challenged digital geeks who can and will use 2GB?

just like 640k (1)

pdamoc (771461) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332427)

progress in technology means cheaper stuff so all progress is good and needed. Some people really enjoy 2 years old technology at the price of a popsicle.
Solid state memory combined with superfast networking might make my dream come true:
networked processing and networked storage, one silent computer in my room and a cluster made out of the cheapest CPUs in the basement.

Vogon poetry! (-1, Offtopic)

Flexagon (740643) | more than 10 years ago | (#9332437)

Sounds just like I've been discovered by the Vogons^H^H^H^H^H^Hspammers, and am suffering the consequences.

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