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Dreamcast Homebrew Website Relaunched

simoniker posted more than 10 years ago | from the mmm-homebrew dept.

Classic Games (Games) 27

Wraggster writes "Those who have never visited the DC Homebrew site, devoted to homebrew games and demos for the Sega Dreamcast, should be aware that it's just received an official relaunch, including over 230 pages of downloads of demos, games, ports, multimedia, and some great help pages too. New features for the site include a developer spotlight and homebrew spotlight - it's a resource well worth checking out." With titles like the great-looking Alice Dreams, there's some interesting material coming out of the unofficial Dreamcast coding scene of late.

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Good to hear (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9460233)

Good to hear my friends DC will get more use in the near future...

Re:Good to hear (1)

Goldberg's Pants (139800) | more than 10 years ago | (#9466154)

I actually bought one a month ago for $20. If you're not averse to downloading games for a dead system (which I'm certainly not) it's a bargain! Criminal that the machine died commercially, but then it's design is what has left it open to all this lovely homebrew stuff. There's something very weird about playing Super Mario on a SNES emulator on a SEGA machine:)

Wraggster, (-1, Troll)

fusionpit (777534) | more than 10 years ago | (#9460267)

Stop whoring yourself. First you change all of Cheatahs Ads over to your own, then whore the site on /., and now you're doing the same thing with DCH for the SECOND time.

BSD IS... (-1, Troll)

bluethundr (562578) | more than 10 years ago | (#9460565)

no wait...
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  • no...now APPLE [apple.com] !!! that one is is DEFINITELY...
  • no wait. that last one, that's if your a fag. that's right.
  • FUCK!!!
  • Okay. I have it now...
  • I rememeber
  • (hey I'm a programmer who can store MULTIMENSIONAL ARRAYS in his head!)
  • DREAMCAST [ferrago.com] is...

Open hardware (3, Interesting)

Qwaniton (166432) | more than 10 years ago | (#9460839)

This is truly a great thing. The Dreamcast really is the Apple II of consoles. Hobbyist hacking is truly a lost art.

Is the Sega Dreamcast getting a rematch? (3, Insightful)

MMaestro (585010) | more than 10 years ago | (#9460989)

Probably not, but all things considered (its FIFTY BUCKS for a Dreamcast system, most people spend double that on gasoline for their car a month), for the cheap gamers, hackers, programmers, and those tired of 'remade games just with better graphics' this is excellent news.

Re:Is the Sega Dreamcast getting a rematch? (1)

HoneyBunchesOfGoats (619017) | more than 10 years ago | (#9461596)

It's $25 for a system with one controller where I live. (Check out Rhino Video Games [rhinovideogames.com] .) I've got 4 controllers and 4 VMUs.

I've checked out the DC homebrew scene, but had never seen anything about Alice Dreams before. It looks great! I'll definitely have to check that one out.

Chankast (4, Informative)

petteri_666 (745343) | more than 10 years ago | (#9460999)

There is Dreamcast emulator just released called Chankast [chanka.org] so you can now enjoy the dc-homebrew scene even without Dreamcast.

Re:Chankast (1)

Quobobo (709437) | more than 10 years ago | (#9461932)

..if you happen to run Windows, sigh. Projects like this really give me respect for projects like SNES9X and MAME.

Re:Chankast (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9464142)

Even worse, Chankast requires you to run Windows XP or higher. Ridiculous.

Re:Chankast (1)

alexo (9335) | more than 10 years ago | (#9468886)

> There is Dreamcast emulator just released called Chankast so you can now
> enjoy the dc-homebrew scene even without Dreamcast.


Does it run commercial games (e.g., Shenmue)?

The Dreamcast is a geek's dream come true :) (5, Interesting)

MC Negro (780194) | more than 10 years ago | (#9461106)

When the Dreamcast first came out, I abhorred it for a number of reasons, such as lackluster 1st party games, poor 3rd party support and just a general disdain for Sega's marketing (their track record isn't so hot in that department). But right now, I'm loving the Dreamcast :-)

Right about now, the Dreamcast is somewhat prematurely in its "glory day". While most Dreamcast games sucked to no end, it had many decent PC ports (Quake III, Unreal Tournament) and a handful of other good games. Generally, you can find these games in the bargain bin at GameStop for $5-$15, usually new. The Dreamcast's current online pricepoint [ebay.com] is often less than a new GBA game, and usually is bundled with some games. Frankly, if you're a cheap gamer who doesn't have a lot of time, the Dreamcast is the way to go.

But the main appeal of the Dreamcast to me is the "geek" community that's brought Linux [m17n.org] , BSD [wri.com] and most of the APIs [gamesurge.com] that they connonate (Hell, you can even use Windows APIs [gamesurge.com] for the built in Windows CE ROM). This is great for people like me who want to get their feet wet with basic game development for consoles, but don't have time to learn a hacked-up graphics API, or for someone who just is looking for a fun weekend project [linuxdevices.com] . It makes me happy to see that the Dreamcast homebrew community is still alive and kicking, and I'm hoping that this kind of thing will continue for a while.

Re:The Dreamcast is a geek's dream come true :) (4, Insightful)

petteri_666 (745343) | more than 10 years ago | (#9461159)

Right about now, the Dreamcast is somewhat prematurely in its "glory day". While most Dreamcast games sucked to no end, it had many decent PC ports (Quake III, Unreal Tournament) and a handful of other good games

I cant really agree with you. Dreamcast had the best games at the time and many classic titles that later where ported to other systems. 2d fighters (sf3, capcom vs. snk 1 and 2, guilty gear etc.), sega sport titles, segas most innovative titles (rez, jet grind radio, space channel 5). And really good third party games such as Soul Calibur.

Re:The Dreamcast is a geek's dream come true :) (1)

curtisk (191737) | more than 10 years ago | (#9461875)

I'll second that, the DC had a great library of games, even from the get-go, but everyone has their own opinions. I still play my DC as much as my XBOX or GameCube.

Re:The Dreamcast is a geek's dream come true :) (1)

Peter Bortas (130) | more than 10 years ago | (#9477132)

Hell, you can even use Windows APIs for the built in Windows CE ROM
The Dreamcast does not have a Windows CE ROM. Windows CE - if you choose to use it - is totally loaded from disc and kept in RAM.

This sucks big hairy ones... (1)

quecojones (108609) | more than 10 years ago | (#9461365)

I just threw out my DC last week! :(

I couldn't find anything for it (VMUs/KBs/games) at the local Funcoland/Software ETC and what was available online wasn't all that great. I was hoping to get MAME and/or an NES emulator running on it, but gave up.

Re:This sucks big hairy ones... (1)

theMerovingian (722983) | more than 10 years ago | (#9462907)


You want to get this [emulation64.com] .

NesterDC is cool, and works pretty well. Judging from the site, it doesn't look like it's getting maintained too well, but I have a version from 3 years ago that runs fine for most games.

I have several hundred NES games on this one CD, and I play it more often than my Xbox or Gamecube. Tetris2 is two-player, it's highly recommended when you're trying to get girls to play video games with you (my Atari 2600 works for this too).

I'm a firm believer that games haven't gotten any more fun* over the years, they are just more elaborate.

* the exception being MMORPG's - I just started Star Wars, and I'm totally blown away by how cool it is

Re:This sucks big hairy ones... (1)

AndyBusch (160585) | more than 10 years ago | (#9464671)

Actually, grab NesterDC from here [dcemulation.com] . This is version 7.1, which runs most games full-speed, whereas 3 had a 50% frameskip.

Re:This sucks big hairy ones... (1)

theMerovingian (722983) | more than 10 years ago | (#9464736)

You're my hero - thanks for the link!

I was hoping there'd be an update, but I haven't really paid attention to it in years.

Back with the old version, your ROM names had to be 7 characters or less to save games - is that still the case?

Not the only big homebrew site (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9461627)

There's already a rather large Dreamcast site called Boob [boob.co.uk] . (Yes, that's the name. No, I don't know why it's called that.) I'm surprised the site wasn't in the writeup or any previous comments.

Revolutionary Console (5, Informative)

thebdj (768618) | more than 10 years ago | (#9462010)

The dreamcast not only seems to be one of the easiest hacked consoles ever created, making it one of the coolest consoles to own, but it is also one of the most revolutionary devices ever.

Before the console wars became the new hip thing there was the Dreamcast. No XBox or Gamecube just the DC and PS2. Both had their supporters but only one really changed the industry for the better, while the other is an on going money grab by an over-zealous (and too large) company.

Things that the Dreamcast changed:
  • Online Gaming
    The FIRST console to have online gaming. It came with a 56k modem for those horrid dial-up speeds and eventually had the ability to be expanded to broadband with an adapter. Phantasy Star was one of the first (if not the first) game to be online for a console and many games for the Dreamcast joined it. Including sports games and shooters.
  • Keyboard and Mouse
    This was pretty big. I mean web browsing with a controller is a pain (I would know). And first person shooters with support for the keyboard and mouse make it capable of rivalling some of the PC games in this respect
  • VGA Adapter
    Unless I am mistaked this is the only console to date to have a VGA Adapter that had a purpose. It made the Dreamcast capable of using a PC monitor and games that were "VGA" Enable had better resolutions and looked way better than on even the best TV. These graphics can still rival PS2 and some occassion XBox graphics to this day.

The only thing some people complained about seriously was lack of a DVD player. But at the time PS2 was still ~$200 and the DC was already ~$99. For that you could have gotten another DVD player that actually would play movies and not just act like it could.

So not only is it a good thing that the homebrew site is back it is an excellent thing. We can finally have more games for the Dreamcast even it they are not officially sponsored by Sega anymore. It is good to see that this is one "dead" console that is not truly dead and may have a big enough fan base to keep it alive for some time to come.

Re:Revolutionary Console (1)

yuckymucky (591284) | more than 10 years ago | (#9463212)

The Dreamcast was the FIRST console to have built in online gaming. The SNES and the Genesis both had online gaming, it just really sucked. http://www.gamersgraveyard.com/repository/snes/per ipherals/xband.html

Re:Revolutionary Console (1)

MC Negro (780194) | more than 10 years ago | (#9463576)


Online Gaming The FIRST console to have online gaming. It came with a 56k modem for those horrid dial-up speeds and eventually had the ability to be expanded to broadband with an adapter. Phantasy Star was one of the first (if not the first) game to be online for a console and many games for the Dreamcast joined it. Including sports games and shooters.
Not to be picky, but Nintendo's been playing in the online area (without much success) for quite a while [n-sider.com] .

Re:Revolutionary Console (1)

muzthe42nd (598331) | more than 10 years ago | (#9471761)

The only thing some people complained about seriously was lack of a DVD player. But at the time PS2 was still ~$200 and the DC was already ~$99. For that you could have gotten another DVD player that actually would play movies and not just act like it could.

I seem to remember that when the PS2 came out over here (UK), you could buy a dreamcast bundled with a seperate DVD player. And the cost for this was still less than the PS2, but it didn't help it sell well, which was a pity. The DC is my favourite console I have, other than my GBA SP. God, I love that thing

Re:Revolutionary Console (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9472651)

To go with what the other guys said, even Sega's own Saturn could be played online. Dreamcast, I believe, was just the first one with built in online capacity.

Other "lost" DC games still out in the wild? (2, Insightful)

Mean_Nishka (543399) | more than 10 years ago | (#9462592)

I'm sure you all remember the story regarding Propeller Arena, [lonseidman.com] a great game that was canceled just before its release. Few knew it ever made it out of Sega until Slashdot referenced an article on it not too long ago. Somebody purchased the GD-ROM for over $1500, turned it over to a hacker, and the game suddenly found its way to the Net :).

I wonder how many other games like this are out there sitting on dev boxes somewhere just waiting to be discovered.

The retail stores emphasized the wrong games (3, Interesting)

veritron (637136) | more than 10 years ago | (#9462763)

So many of the PS2/GC's eventual best games were ported from Dreamcast:

Grandia II
Skies of Arcadia
Ikaruga
Rez
Guilty Gear X
Marvel vs. Capcom 2

All were on the Dreamcast first. They played better on the Dreamcast than they did on the PS2 as well.

Other games, like Street Fighter III: First Strike, haven't been ported yet - but that got mixed reviews when it came out anyway.

Still, if you liked fighting games, this system was utterly godlike. With titles like SOUL CALIBER and Fatal Fury: Mark of the Wolves and Virtua Fighter 3 and Capcom vs. SNK (and 2 as well) and Dead or Alive 2 and the million King of the Fighters games and Last Blade 2, if anything it surpasses the Neo Geo in fighting game awesomeness.

I never bought a Dreamcast while it was in its prime though. I'm guessing it's probably because I kept seeing crap on the shelves like Power Stone 2 (which was actually an OK game) that I'd never heard of, and that scared me away.
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