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Jobs Previews Displays, Tiger at WWDC

pudge posted more than 10 years ago | from the 77-percent-larger dept.

Technology (Apple) 832

DonaldGelman writes "Apple has just announced a 30-inch Studio Display capable of displaying a resolution of 2560x1600. The display requires a new Nvidia card with 2 parallel DVI connections. The display is going to retail for $3299 in August, and the Nvidia card for around $599." Jobs also announced new 20- and 23-inch displays, for $1299 and $1999 in July. All three feature a new aluminum enclosure, and DVI. Also from WWDC...Jobs also previewed Tiger, with Spotlight (fast iTunes-like searching in all apps, and systemwide), Dashboard (Konfabulator-like widgets combined with Exposé for fast showing/hiding), Automator (visual AppleScript, combining prewritten actions into scripts), H.264 code for QuickTime (high definition scalable video from MPEG), iChat AV conferencing (up to 10 for audio, four for video), RSS reading in Safari, Core Image and Core Video (realtime filters at the core OS level), and system-wide Sync Services. All of this is extensible (except for iChat conferencing), with SDKs available for developers. There's a lot here, and a more detailed description is forthcoming. Tiger will be available in the first half of 2005.

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GNAA ran a press release on the leak (1, Informative)

GNAA Goat-See (775677) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553359)

GNAA > j00 frisatage leakage is mine. www.gnaa.us

Re:GNAA ran a press release on the leak (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9553389)

NOT OFFTOPIC! FUCK!

the GNAA DID leak the screenshots on macrumors. Go look at them!

Re:GNAA ran a press release on the leak (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9553414)

Actually, as far as I can see, the GNAA were in fact the first to release screenshots of the OS to MacRumors.com [macrumors.com] .

If you look at the first screenshot story it gives credit to "Gary Niger and Ron Delsner of GNAA". LOL

Re:GNAA ran a press release on the leak (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9553450)

SEE? I TOLD YOU.

(fq lameness filter)

MOD PARENT UP +5 INFORMATIVE (0, Troll)

(GNAA)Zeikfried (782454) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553446)

GNAA Leaks Info about Apple's Next Major OS
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Gary said at the press conference, "We know the gay niggers couldn't wait until Monday to see these new features, so Ron and I took the initiative and gave them to MacRumors.com ourselves."

Ron Delsner was quoted as saying "I hope the GNAA recognizes my effort to help the gay niggers of the world. I would hope they offer me membership."

As always, Rolloffle was unavailable for comment, as he is a British douchebag.

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iPod SDK! (5, Interesting)

American AC in Paris (230456) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553365)

Dear Steve,

Could you give us an SDK for the iPod? We've been very good boys and girls this year, and we promise to be nice with it.

Thank you,
AAiP

P.S.: It'd be really cool if you could make it your "Oh, and one more thing..." We love it when you do that.

Re:iPod SDK! (2, Insightful)

tulmad (25666) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553380)

Dear Steve,

Could you please stop making stuff that only 2 people in the world will buy? (i.e. that $3500 30" Display that requires a special graphics card).

Thank you.

Re:iPod SDK! (2, Funny)

Cat_Byte (621676) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553526)

I dunno. If I had the $$ I'd buy something even better! [go-l.com] Everyone could use a 92" flat screen ;)

Re:iPod SDK! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9553549)

What the hell are you bitching about?
I'd LOVE to finally get a single screen that can handle more than 2048x1536 and this will most definitely in a while open up a market for more screens with ultra-high resolutions.

I'm on a PC now, and will probably be for quite a while longer (macintosh games are rare, especially where I live)... but Apple has time and again pioneered different technologies that PC makers has copied or licensed.

Re:iPod SDK! (3, Informative)

iJed (594606) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553462)

Hey we've being given an iSync SDK this year. You can't have everything! ;-)

Re:iPod SDK! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9553476)

You boys really do love a reacharound, don't ya?

Re:iPod SDK! (3, Interesting)

code shady (637051) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553505)

Forget the iPod SDK, i want the iSync SDK.
I think it would be much much cooler to be able to write my own conduits to keep the information on my palm in sync with all the apple applications (iCal, Address Book, Mail, a bunch of others)

please, please, pleasepleaseplease! open up the iSync SDK!!!!

Okay (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9553367)

What are these "widget" thingies? Is this just the old Docklets thing, only documented? And it's supposed to be "integrated" with Expose? How does this work?

And what happened to the rumors they were bringing back Copland's "smart folders"? Is that what searchlight is?

Re:Okay (4, Informative)

pi8you (710993) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553410)

Apple's basically gone and done their own version of the coolness that is Konfabulator [konfabulator.com] , little widgets that do a variety of things.

Re:Okay (5, Insightful)

squiggleslash (241428) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553417)

They're things like calculators, notepads, etc. Little applications designed to complement the application you're running.

This is a completely Apple-created innovation and is not a rip-off. Oh no. Definitely not.

No, I'm serious. Really. Because despite all the talk of it being a clone of Konfabulator, it appears, in essense, to be Apple's original Desk Accessories brought into the 21st Century. Which is nice.

see konfabulator (1)

redherring22 (579425) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553468)

it looks like apple's giving konfabulator [konfabulator.com] the same treatment with dashboard as they gave soundjam with itunes, watson [karelia.com] with sherlock... i don't get it. on one hand, they're bringing their developers closer with all these great development tools-- XCode 2.0's OO diagramming features look very sweet as well as the Java tools-- but they have the gall to blatantly steal the finest fruits of the third-party developers' labors?

iTunes IS soundjam (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9553501)

Just a nitpick...Apple bought SoundJam (and the team who wrote it), and turned it into iTunes.

Re:see konfabulator (3, Interesting)

Power Everywhere (778645) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553523)

iTunes is SoundJam. Apple bought the app, rebranded it, tweaked it, and released it as iTunes 1.0. The rest is history.

Microsoft... (5, Funny)

smaug195 (535681) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553368)

Let the copying of Tiger features into Longhorn... begin!

Re:Microsoft... (5, Informative)

sam_doshi (132520) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553421)

Actually I think Apple are already on to this: See here [gizmodo.com]

Re:Microsoft... (4, Funny)

eyeball (17206) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553428)

Apple thought of this already. One of the banners at WWDC said "Introducing Longhorn" as well as a few other jabs at MS.

Re:Microsoft... (4, Funny)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553433)

you got it wrong, the longhorn dev cycle is nearing the point at which they will silently start dropping years ago announced features.

yes I'm trying to be funny/sarcastic().

Re:Microsoft... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9553513)

yes I'm trying to be funny/sarcastic().

I hope that int sarcastic() { doesn't return 0.

Re:Microsoft... (5, Interesting)

dasmegabyte (267018) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553477)

What, you mean like the indexing of all content based on meta data?

Of course, Longhorn's implementation of this by filesystem is completely different from Apple's implementation of it (creation of XML files which are then compiled into a fast, easy to read database)...but the end result will be transparent to the user. It's a chicken-and-egg thing. Apple started indexing content by metadata in Sherlock and the iLife apps. Microsoft says, "yeah, well we're gonna build it into our OS!" So Apple breaks out the Sherlock system and integrates it into the GUI...thus making it LOOK like an OS.

Off topic, check out which site they chose for the screenshot of RSS in Safari [apple.com] . Cowboy Neal is famous once again!

You may joke... (3, Interesting)

lxt (724570) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553478)

...but the actual promotional banners Apple are using at WWDC for Tiger have the strapline "Redmond, start your photocopiers".

Although ironically, Steve Jobs noted in the keynote speech that he "ran into Bill Gates a few weeks ago and his company
feels that their relationship with Apple is better than ever."

I think there's some pics of the banners at macrumors.com...

Re:Microsoft... (3, Informative)

tritone (189506) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553494)

Apple certainly doesn't seem cowed by Microsoft. There were three big banners at the WWDC dissing MS. One said "Redmond, start your photocopiers," One said "Introducing Longhorn" (above an image of a Tiger CD), and one "Redmond, we have a problem. Curiously, pictures are onPaul Thurrott's decidedly anti-Apple blog. [internet-nexus.com]

Re:Microsoft... (4, Informative)

jford235 (677581) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553517)

banner pictures [gizmodo.com]

Re:Microsoft... (1)

smellygeek (702897) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553531)

In other news...

The Longhorn release has been pushed back until the first half of 2008.

second pl0p (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9553369)

second verse
same as the first!
bloop bloop fart crap pl0p

GNAA BEGINS SALE OF DECAPITATION INSURANCE (1)

(GNAA)Zeikfried (782454) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553373)

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To those who ask "What's WWDC?"... (5, Informative)

tcopeland (32225) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553375)

... it's Apple's WorldWide Developer Conference [apple.com] .

Re:To those who ask "What's WWDC?"... (4, Funny)

Kenja (541830) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553452)

I prefer to think of it as What we Would have Done with Copland.

Re:To those who ask "What's WWDC?"... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9553496)

Who Would Do Cowboyneal?

So... fucking... gay. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9553377)

SHHHH.... (5, Funny)

Frac (27516) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553378)

If it's quiet around you, you can probably hear the collective screaming of the Longhorn team from Redmond WA that sounds like "AGHGHGHGHHGHHHHHH!!!!"

"Peter, did you copy all that down?"
"I got only the first half before I fainted. You?"
"I got most of it. Ok, the Longhorn features spec meeting is Wednesday morning, we have two days to put all that new Tiger stuff in!"

Re:SHHHH.... (5, Funny)

eyeball (17206) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553469)

If it's quiet around you, you can probably hear the collective screaming of the Longhorn team from Redmond WA that sounds like "AGHGHGHGHHGHHHHHH!!!!"

"Peter, did you copy all that down?"
"I got only the first half before I fainted. You?"
"I got most of it. Ok, the Longhorn features spec meeting is Wednesday morning, we have two days to put all that new Tiger stuff in!"


Wow, it's going to be such a long time before Microsoft copies OSX Tiger, and Linux gets around to copying Microsoft Longhorn. Attention Linux developers: cut out the middle-man and start copying Tiger directly.

Re:SHHHH.... (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9553539)

That is essentially what's happening - see freedesktop.org. Main influences are clearly macosx and amiga/beos, not windows.

Screen Shots on Cinema Displays (5, Informative)

umrgregg (192838) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553385)

For those of you wondering where the pictures on the cinema displays came from it's the Jungfrau Region of Switerland. The valley is the Lauterbrunnen Valley. Now if I could only get the display to go with the picture...

Re:Screen Shots on Cinema Displays (1)

PuppiesOnAcid (792320) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553497)

Thanks for the info man...the view is stunning.

Now this is exciting... (1, Troll)

bob670 (645306) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553386)

another round of stuff I either can't afford or am not willing to pay for, but at least we can all take about how innovative Apple is in design some more. I love ya' Apple, but this whole move where you basically abandonded the mid-range can't really be good for business.

Re:Now this is exciting... (5, Funny)

FirstTimeCaller (521493) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553406)

I knew I picked a bad week to not be rich.

The Golden Age of Apple. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9553393)

'Tis a wonderful time to be an Apple user. I am not wealthy enough to afford one of those 2.5GHz dual G5s with a 30" screen, but I can't wait to get my grubby little mitts on a OSX 10.4 "Tiger" beta build!

Safari RSS Screenshot (5, Informative)

Apollo (15220) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553396)

A nice Safari RSS screenshot [apple.com] , starring our favorite site.

Re:Safari RSS Screenshot (2, Interesting)

Mik3D (792355) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553460)

Also staring our favorite upcomming Movie! (Wonder if the apple screenshot factory are /. or Firefly fans)

Polls (2, Funny)

T-Kir (597145) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553471)

Ahh, so THAT's where CowboyNeal has been hiding while he is away from the Poll options! :)

Boo! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9553398)

Not even a "one more thing..." from Steve.
This was a huge disappoint.

Re:Boo! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9553482)

John Kerry couldn't get his hair combed in time.

Marketers pitching new display ideas... (3, Funny)

_LMark (173102) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553399)

(marketing drone sitting around table with other marketers. All sipping lattes)

"so, get this: Are you ready? We release computer displays. TA DA!!

BUT WAIT, there's more. Not only do we release displays that are the same as our current ones, but we will demonstrate the innovation... BY CHANGING THEM TO BE MADE OUT OF METAL!!!!

Everyone knows metal is faster than plastic. But, wait for it, wait for it, get this: we'll keep them the same price that they have been for over a year!!!!!!!!"

(thank you's and hugs for everyone followed by a power lunch, martinis and more fucking crazy pills)

You missed the important part. (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9553425)

These new displays are:

1. Larger

2. Use DVI instead of ADC, so you don't have to have mac hardware to use them.

Woods (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9553400)

Tiger will be available in the first half of 2005.

Yeah. Going by this display in the recent USOpen, me thinks we definitely need to wait till 2005...

Yum (4, Funny)

transient (232842) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553401)

Apple has just announced a 30-inch Studio Display

Can you say "purchase order?" I'll take five.

Good move to DVI (3, Insightful)

Dark Paladin (116525) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553402)

Apple tends to succeed better when they adopt the standards (USB, Firewire, etc) rather than go it their own (ADC over DVI, for example).

I've been contemplating one of these screens, but never wanted to commit because I couldn't just slap in a KVM for my other machines (mainly the Windows 98 Box fo' Games and my wife's Windows 98 Box fo' Work Crap). Now, I don't have any excuse!

(Looks at price tag.)

Well, I guess I still have one....

Re:Good move to DVI (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9553489)

Apple was a major developer of Firewire.

Re:Good move to DVI (2, Interesting)

Dark Paladin (116525) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553541)

Yes, they were a major Firewire developer - and then they made it a standard for everyone to use.

Doing so increased the number of Firewire devices, which made their including it on all Macs by default appealing to those who needed video editing/etc.

You'll notice how they're open sourcing things like parts of Xcode and other parts - making them popular so it's easy to add them into their products. Like IBM, Apple has figured out that instead of forcing the world to be compatible with you, if you give it to the world and becoming compatible with it, you enjoy greater use.

Firewire IS an Apple Standard (2, Informative)

lxt (724570) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553547)

"Apple tends to succeed better when they adopt the standards (USB, Firewire, etc) rather than go it their own (ADC over DVI, for example)." I thought FireWire was an Apple standard - certainly, FireWire is a trademark of Apple.

Slashdot on Apple website (1, Redundant)

Capital_Z (682911) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553404)

Looks like /. got a little shout-out from Apple. [apple.com]
The Apple website page [apple.com]

Why do they keep doing this. (2, Interesting)

Johnathon_Dough (719310) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553405)

why does apple feel the need to take successful software ideas and incorporate them into their OS?

I am a long time mac user, and make a decent living thanks to apple, however, this stuff always manages to piss me off.

The developers of Konfabulator have created an elegent piece of software that is easily expandable by anyone with a modicum of scritpting knowledge. So what does apple do, steal the idea and incorporate it.Their Dashboard implementation is a nice take on it, but is such an obvious rip off, that it must be frustrating to the creators of it.

Wouldn't it be more fair to their developers to license it at then expand on it by tying it inot the OS?

Yeah (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9553464)

Apple ought to be taking unsuccessful software ideas and incorporating them into the OS instead

Re:Why do they keep doing this. (5, Informative)

Trillan (597339) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553500)

I really hate reading this panic "they're stealing!" attitude every time.

Let's do a review here, okay?"

  • 1984: Apple introduces desk accesories. Little programs that go anywhere on the desktop and can be run in parallel to other applications.
  • 1986-ish: Apple introduces Multifinder.
  • 1990-ish: Apple introduces System 7, and deprecates DAs.
  • 1998: Windows 98, complete with active desktop and on-desktop widgets.
  • 2000-ish: Apple introduces Mac OS X. Widgets now go in the dock.
  • 2002-ish: Apple moves widgets to the menu bar.
  • 2003-ish: Konfabulator is born.
  • 2004: Apple moves widgets to the desktop and adds javascript.

Frankly, Konfabulator was a low hanging fruit. It didn't really introduce anything except using Javascript, it just tied together a batch of old technology with a very old Apple idea. It's common sense to realize that Apple would move widgets back onto the desktop and add Javascript support once they realized how well it would work out. About the only thing you can really take issue with is Apple's decision to use Javascript.

Re:Why do they keep doing this. (1)

WinterSolstice (223271) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553519)

Probably more fair. The problem is that once an idea has been released, it is impossible hold on to it. If you want to develop commercially for the Mac (and really, for Windows too), you have to keep one or two steps ahead.

MS does the same thing. Skinning, screen savers, "power tools", etc. They just don't do it quite so aggressively.

Besides. There is no "fair" in business. That's why MS is practically running the x86 market.
-WS

What about the widget developers? (2, Insightful)

darken9999 (460645) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553520)

How about the tons of widget developers for Konfabulator? Now they can get their project to *way* more people instead of the small segment of users who bought Konfabulator.

Re:Why do they keep doing this. (3, Interesting)

MoneyT (548795) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553521)

There are two main differences that I see between Konfabulator and Dashboard, and they're important to me.

1) Konfabulator costs money. It's a nice app, it really is. I used it for a while, but it's not to me, worth the $25 they want for it.

2) Konfabulator doesn't hide itself until I need it. It's always there, sitting on the desktop or flaoting above everything else. Dashboard appears only when I want it to and then goes away.

Re:Why do they keep doing this. (1)

MasterVidBoi (267096) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553544)

A couple days ago I saw a blurb about the rights to Konfabulator being purchased by an unknown company, and support/updates would be ceased sometime in August.

Unfortunatly, I can't remember what that source was now, and can't find it again.

OMG OMG OMG (1)

krinsh (94283) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553407)

I looove graphics and games and drool over any good displays... but I could buy like two Alienwares for that kind of dough.

Konfabulator Ripoff (1)

MacGoldstein (619138) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553413)

I've never even used Konfabulator, and I've used Macs since about 15 years ago (I started on a Centris 610), but from what I've seen, Dashboard is nothing more than a direct ripoff of Konfabulator in the same way that iTunes beat out Audion, and Sherlock beat Watson. I am planning on being a developer for a living, and when the company I have devoted my resources to does something as despicable as this it really bugs me. Yes, they have the resources to make the shareware part of the OS, and they may even implement it better, but that doesn't mean that Arlo Rose shouldn't receive at least some sort of compensation for their acts. Yellowdog Linux is looking more appetizing every day.

Okay (2, Insightful)

mcc (14761) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553491)

So widgets are a direct ripoff of "Konfabulator".

How is "Konfabulator" anything other than a direct ripoff of the OS 9 Control Strip?

That's a serious question. I've never used Konfabulator.

Re:Konfabulator Ripoff (1)

mj_1903 (570130) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553492)

Apple bought iTunes and Sherlock already did a fair few things that Watson did, and the developer knew that he was stepping into Apple's grounds.

This does not excuse Apple ripping off Konfabulator though, but these are the same tactics Microsoft has been using for years...

2 DVI's? (2)

Apocalypse111 (597674) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553416)

I think I can understand why they would need 2 DVI's for this, however, I have a question:

Could this also work if you had 2 new nVidia boards set up in SLI mode? Just have each board rendering one half of the screen, as they normally would in standard operations during gaming. This would take some of the strain off the single board that would ordinarily do the job, and probably allow for some faster/cooler effects to be rendered on this big-ass screen.

Longhorn like requirements! (3, Insightful)

iJed (594606) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553422)

The new advanced video technologies (core image) seem to have longhorn like requirements:

ATI Radeon 9800 XT

ATI Radeon 9800 Pro

ATI Radeon 9700 Pro

ATI Radeon 9600 XT

ATI Radeon 9600 Pro

ATI Mobility Radeon 9700

ATI Mobility Radeon 9600

NVIDIA GeForceFX Go 5200

NVIDIA GeForceFX 5200 Ultra

Seems some current Mac models will not support this! You can bet there will now be users who think that 10.4 will not run on their machine just because core image/video does not. They just won't get the advanced new graphics.

Re:Longhorn like requirements! (5, Informative)

Libertius (83369) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553480)

"The performance gains and features supported by Core Image ultimately depend on the graphics card. Graphics cards capable of pixel-level programming deliver the best performance. But Core Image automatically scales as appropriate for systems with older graphics cards, for compatibility with any Tiger-compatible Mac."

Gates is going to kill all of us trying to keep up (1, Insightful)

crovira (10242) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553423)

This will spark a round of poor-man's me-too-ism that should haunt M$ for a while. (I wonder how he's goind to justify .WMV files as part of the OS. Clippy on steroids! :-)

Now if only auto-detection worked with Linux boxes. Then I'd be happy.

Speed (4, Interesting)

scrotch (605605) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553426)

I'm hoping that the increases in speed seen in the last upgrades continue for "older" machines. I'm assuming so based on what Apple has posted on their website, but a lot of that is G5 performance info.

I'm hoping that the "instant search of everything" feature, which I'll almost never use if my current searching is any indication, won't bog down the system while indexing everything.

All in all, not too revolutionary. Which is just fine with me. I think Panther is damn nice and would rather they spent time cleaning up and helping developers make their apps more reliable than anything else.

10.4 Server (5, Informative)

Johnny Mnemonic (176043) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553429)


Not announced on stage, but previewed off, is 10.4 Server [apple.com] : includes 100% 64bit libs, ACLs, iChat server, SUS. Also includes NT migration tool, improved email, and a one-click SOHO setup. Nice bump.

Jabber based iChat server (5, Informative)

Libertius (83369) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553434)

"You can now host your own iChat server. Instant Messaging serves as a vital means of communication for organizations of all sizes, so it's useful to deploy and run your own private and secure IM server. Based on the open source Jabber project, the new iChat server in Tiger Server lets your company protect its internal communications by defining its own namespace, using SSL/TLS encryption to ensure privacy, and Kerboros for authorization. The iChat server works with both the iChat client in Mac OS X Tiger and popular open source clients available for Windows, Linux and even PDAs."

http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/tiger/

Apple Did It Again! (3, Insightful)

RAMMS+EIN (578166) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553435)

So, they did it again. They released the new version of their software, and it has real new features that really enhance the experience and could really compel me to buy it. Hopefully they have also fixed some of the issues I had with especially Safari (unusable while loading slow page) and iChat (goes bad after receiving voice chat invite behind firewall).

Droolworthy, but... (1)

SilentChris (452960) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553438)

I admit that having two 30" LCDs side-by-side would be droolworthy (assuming I could afford the $6000+ cost in displays alone, not to mention the CPU), but I was talking with a coworker over this and was wondering who, if anyone, has room for this kind of thing on their desk.

Even on a wide-open setup, some CAD designers I've seen would still eat up most of their desks with this. Combined with the fact that you can't actually see beyond your desk with two huge monitors in your way, how would this be practical for most people?

I'm still waiting on hologram displays: little buttons I push that can pop up a screen from my desk, display it in air, then turn it off if someone comes by to talk. Adjustable, semi-transparent, it'd be perfect for most work situations.

links? (1)

edrugtrader (442064) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553439)

where are the links?

Apple... (1)

NeoGeo64 (672698) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553441)

Tiger... the real reason Longhorn will go into beta later this year.

Brought to you by GNAA (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9553442)

The GNAA [www.gnaa.us] was responsible for the leak of this story.

Here is the article! [macrumors.com]

Apple Employees Read Slashdot!? (0, Redundant)

amitofu (705703) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553447)

Did anyone notice that the sample RSS feed on the Safari RSS [apple.com] page shows a Slashdot story?

FUCK! I bought too soon! (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9553453)

I spent $3,000 (plus another $300 in taxes) 16 months ago for a 1920x1600 23" Apple Cinedisplay.

You're telling me that for that same amount, I could have waited a year longer and gotten a 30" 2500xwhatever?!?!

FUCK FUCK FUCK.

Well (4, Funny)

sulli (195030) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553527)

You should simply never buy anything, and that way you'll never have that problem.

No Show in Macworld Boston (1)

goBU18 (769021) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553455)

Since I heard that both Apple and Microsoft will not be at this year's Macworld in Boston, I have wondered where Steve Jobs would reveal new products and swag. I guess the question was answered at the Apple WWDC.

Uh-Oh - Konfabulator (3, Informative)

Dark Paladin (116525) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553461)

Remember Watson? Remember how Sherlock 3 basically became Watson?

Remember Konfabulator [konfabulator.com] with all of its widgets? Well, now Tiger's going to have Dashboard [apple.com] . I wonder if it will accept Konfabulator widgets (which I've been using) or if there will be an "import" program? And Konfabulator 1.7 just added Expose-like features (press F8 to get your Widgets in front - useful).

Granted, Apple had something like this back in the older Mac days (or so I've read here and there), so it's kind of like they're "bringing back" something old into the new - but if you're an Apple developer, it seems as though there's always the fear that your favorite app will get assimilated into the next version of OS X.

Granted, I like OS X (my work is buying me a new Powerbook in about a week - yay me), but it does kind of make you go "Hm".

Re:Uh-Oh - Konfabulator (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9553530)

How exactly would Konfabulator widgets be "importable" into 10.4? Konfabulator is KDE. That's a different GUI API. You might as well ask if OS 10.4 will support DirectX games.

Dear Apple (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9553465)

Dear Apple,

I am a homosexual. I bought an Apple computer because of its well earned reputation for being "the" gay computer. Since I have become an Apple owner, I have been exposed to a whole new world of gay friends. It is really a pleasure to meet and compute with other homos such as myself. I plan on using my new Apple computer as a way to entice and recruit young schoolboys into the homosexual lifestyle; it would be so helpful if you could produce more software which would appeal to young boys. Thanks in advance.

with much gayness,

Father Randy "Pudge" O'Day, S.J.

Re:Dear Apple (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9553510)

*snore*

Most important: 64-bit (3, Interesting)

homb (82455) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553466)

Well finally OS X will have 64-bit pointers and long longs.
I've been waiting for that feature for a while now and to me that's the most valuable thing, along with Xcode being updated to take advantage of the LP64 model.

Up until now, the 64-bit G5 processor was rather wasted.

HFS+ support, SQLite, etc. (5, Interesting)

This is outrageous! (745631) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553473)

Three bits I found interesting here [apple.com] : in Tiger,
  • UNIX utilities such as cp, tar and nsync can properly handle HFS+ resource forks
  • command-line access to Spotlight
  • new Open Source libraries for XML transformations (libxslt [xmlsoft.org] ) and data persistence (SQLite [sqlite.org] )

What would Tony say? (5, Funny)

Prince Vegeta SSJ4 (718736) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553481)

Apple has just announced a 30-inch Studio Display capable of displaying a resolution of 2560x1600

Jobs also previewed Tiger

There Grrrrrrreaat!

hmm (1)

aixou (756713) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553484)

The new stuff in Tiger seems more like icing on the cake than the drastic improvements we got from Jaguar and Panther. Any word if this puppy's still gonna cost $130?

nVidia SLI (4, Insightful)

mhesseltine (541806) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553488)

Aha! So this is why nVidia has been working on the 2 card video load balancing system.

Dear Randy "Pudge" O'Day (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9553499)

Dear Father O'Day,

Thanks for your letter. Being Catholic myself, I know exactly what you're talking about! It has always been our plan here at Apple Computer Inc to revolutionize personal computing with our high-quality and highly gay products.

I'm happy to answer your letter by letting you know that YES we will be releasing an entire hLife ("homo-life") software line. You'll be able to recognize it in stores by the small stylized logo depicting a large cock entering a tight anus with an Apple logo on it. ("Suddenly it all comes together" indeed!).

Anyway, I hope you and other members of our community will join us on our mission, and purchase the exciting new hLife boxed set. Only the boxed set comes with translucent cock rings!

Sincerely,

Harry Rodman
Vice-president
Homosexual Liaison Services
Apple Computer, Inc.

should work on software (-1, Troll)

2057 (600541) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553509)

Really this is just another expensive toy from apple, what i'd really like to see is an x86 port of their operating system, so this way i could have a stable, widely supported operating system and not have to purchase hardware at retail value and up.

No ADC? (1)

Enrique1218 (603187) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553514)

Looks like Apple is dropping the ADC port. None of these displays have it listed in the specs. It was one of those Apple quirks where they basically went their own and to hell with rest of the industry. However, it was a convenient connector that got rid of all the wires (if you had a power mac).

Yay my stock! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9553515)

Fools! Geeky fools! All addicted to mac developments.

Buy the shinies.
Love the shinies.
Buy more shinies.

I bought aapl stock at 19, its now at 33.

I love you guys.

really I do.

Why did my file move? (1)

cinderful (586168) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553516)

Personally, I was looking forward to the announcement about the Finder's cute little "oh hey you double-clicked on a file so now I'm going to update the folder that's listed by date modified so what you thought you opened is something entirely different" bug.

(aka, use kqueue [arstechnica.com] , dammit!!)

Sent to Apple Feedback (-1, Flamebait)

aptenergy (688428) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553524)

Dear Apple:

I cannot believe that you would go so far as to replace the programs that users most popularly use with your own competing ones. LaunchBar and Konfabulator are now replaced by Spotlight and Dashboard.

You are killing innovation on the Mac. You are not helping innovation by encouraging developers to make cool and awesome applications; what you're doing is completely the opposite. You stifle innovation by granting your own programmers increased access to Mac OS X APIs (SystemUIServer elements anyone?), barely managing to avoid patent/copyright infringement by creating duplicates of everything you see that you think is awesome (reminds me of a Redmond based company) and crushing the very developers that make people switch to the Mac because of the cool things that shareware developers do. What's next?

You've already tried to kill Watson with Sherlock 3, you're destroying the reseller community by giving your Apple Stores increased favor, and I guarantee you're going to hear from Objective Development and Arlo Rose / Perry Clarke (Konfabulator inventors, cause I figure you don't know them) in the next few weeks.

Tread carefully.

Fortunately... (4, Funny)

stienman (51024) | more than 10 years ago | (#9553536)

Fortunately they also announced these products to the development teams today.

In other news, starbucks stores around the Apple campus are open 24 hours a day over this summer...

-Adam

Can you imagine dual 30" monitors? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9553540)

...that's five feet with which to display your overpriced piece of Apple shit!!!! fuckjobs fuckjobs fuckjobs fuckjobs fuckjobs
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