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Firefox 0.9.1 and Thunderbird 0.7.1 Released

simoniker posted more than 10 years ago | from the feedback-schmeedback dept.

Mozilla 507

Dave writes "The Mozilla Foundation has just made available interim releases of Firefox 0.9.1 and Thunderbird 0.7.1. Apparently: 'These releases are designed to address early issues found in the new extension manager and automatic upgrade system as well as making changes to the new Firefox theme based on initial feedback.'"

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Has anyone installed it yet?? (2, Insightful)

Murf_E (754550) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559098)

Does anybody know if this will require a clean uninstall first??

Re:Has anyone installed it yet?? (3, Informative)

emf (68407) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559110)

I just upgraded from 9.0 without uninstalling.

It worked fine. However it's only been like 3 minutes since i've been using 9.1.

Wow...Firefox went from 0.9 to 9.0!! (5, Funny)

jonasmit (560153) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559196)

:-)

Re:Has anyone installed it yet?? (3, Informative)

BackwardEngineer (730035) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559111)

I just installed it this morning and it installed flawlessly over 0.9

Re:Has anyone installed it yet?? (2, Informative)

Enlarge Your Penis (781779) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559116)

Yes

First, for these preview releases it is strongly recommended that you uninstall any previous version of Firefox first

Re:Has anyone installed it yet?? (1)

Sam3.14 (792129) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559124)

I've got 9.0. Do you think there is enough of a difference to merit updating?

Re:Has anyone installed it yet?? (0, Flamebait)

Mz6 (741941) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559158)

"I've got 9.0. Do you think there is enough of a difference to merit updating?"

Do you work for Microsoft?

*ducks*

Re:Has anyone installed it yet?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9559161)

no.

Re:Has anyone installed it yet?? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9559151)

Does anybody know if this will require a clean uninstall first??

"clean uninstall?" you mean,
> format c:
or
> fdisk
???

Re:Has anyone installed it yet?? (2, Funny)

slasher guy (624616) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559300)

<i>"clean uninstall?" you mean,
> format c:
or
> fdisk
???</i>

No no no. Of course not. Are you stupid.

A question for the slashdot community:
Bleach, soap, or a moist whipe? Which works best on hardisks? And what brand?

Re:Has anyone installed it yet?? (1)

dhanes (735504) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559296)

I just installed over the 0.9. I thought I remembered reading that with the advent of 0.9, they were no longer recommending exporting/importing your fav's etc. and that you should just upgrade.

Anywho, seems to be working fine all of the past 30 minutes; history, passman, themes, extensions, Bookmarks are all there.

FP (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9559100)

In Firefox .8, why because d/ling .9 would take too long.

Say what you will... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9559106)

but with all these new browsers, I still stick with the easy and convenient and superior MS Internet Explorer.

MOD PARENT DOWN!!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9559121)

He is the trol !

MOD PARENT, THIS AND ANY REPLY DOWN!!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9559188)

They are obvious...

Firefox doesn't know it's been upgraded (5, Interesting)

Tanami (601011) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559107)

I've upgraded to 0.9.1, and I still get notification that new updates are available.

Anybody else getting this, or have I bodged something?

Re:Firefox doesn't know it's been upgraded (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9559132)

same here. damn.

Re:Firefox doesn't know it's been upgraded (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9559137)

Same problem here after both ways of upgrading...

Re:Firefox doesn't know it's been upgraded (5, Funny)

linicks (704116) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559164)

Yep, same here. I got the little message saying upgrade to 0.9.1, so I did. And then I started up 0.9.1 and got a little message saying upgrade to 0.9.1, so I did...

Re:Firefox doesn't know it's been upgraded (2, Informative)

linuxci (3530) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559173)

I see this too (Linux) remember this is the first time that the upgrade system has been tested in the public so some teething erros like this may occur.

It's good that this is happening now before 1.0 or even 1.0beta is released.

It could be either an error on the server side or the client side, if it's the client side then just hold tight, if it's the server side they'll surely fix it asap.

Re:Firefox doesn't know it's been upgraded (5, Informative)

Zarjazz (36278) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559175)

It's a know bug as they kept the internal version number at 0.9 so they didn't break lots of extentions.

Re:Firefox doesn't know it's been upgraded (5, Funny)

dirty (13560) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559183)

0.9 kept telling me to upgrade to 0.9. Now 0.9.1 keeps telling me to upgrade to 0.9. I think it really liked the 0.9 release.

It's a blonde trap (3, Funny)

Julian Morrison (5575) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559226)

...a slightly more advanced version of writing "other side up" on both ends of a box.

Re:Firefox doesn't know it's been upgraded (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9559240)

i get it too!

Thankfully (5, Insightful)

La_Boca (201988) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559108)

I'm honestly happy they haven't changed the name again. Trying to get your office to adapt to a new browser is hard enough when they are afraid to use software that doesn't "come in a box" much less when it keeps changing it's name.

I heard that Mary-Kate Olsen died recently (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9559109)

Is this true?

theme (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9559113)

good job that theme was ugly

IE troubles.. (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9559119)

You know IE is in trouble when a minor point release meant to address bugs only makes Slashdot headlines..

Wait, then again, the smell of T-Rex's breath did too.. Never mind.......

Re:IE troubles.. (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9559267)

Have you ever smelled IE's breath? It's UGLY.

Re:IE troubles.. (5, Insightful)

galego (110613) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559309)

Or better yet ... when CERT reccommends [slashdot.org] using a 0.x release of another browser over the 6.x version of IE.

0.9 Unstable (3, Informative)

MyShinyMetalAss (788814) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559125)

Firefox 0.9 has been quite unstable on my (Win) system compared to earlier relases. Hopefully this release addresses some of the issues.

Re:0.9 Unstable (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9559162)

I hope you submitted nice and clean bug reports about the issues you encountered?

Re:0.9 Unstable (1)

Timesprout (579035) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559218)

Thats what I was hoping, 0.9 launched after install for me and then never launched again because of an illeagal access. 0.9.1 launches but insists on telling me it cannot connect to any websites. Back to the 0.9RC for me, despite its tendency to hang. 0.7 and 0.8 were very stable for me, its disappointing to see this deterioration. Actually sod it I'm reinstalling 0.8

I had trouble as well (1)

jbeaupre (752124) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559250)

0.9 was crashing right and left (my first mozilla crashes in months), so I went back to 0.8. 1 crash since then. Sort of dampens the enthusiasm

Re:0.9 Unstable (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9559252)

Sounds like your Windows installation is funky. I keep Firefox 0.9 running constantly while this computer is on, it always has at least one tab watching my Gmail inbox and a few others. I don't need a new version because 0.9 works fine, so I'll just wait till the big 1.0

Theme bug (0, Offtopic)

redog (574983) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559127)

If I load up firefox .9 open a few tabs and load sites in them then open up the theme manager and press get new themes then select, download and use the new theme: All the loaded tabs in the previous window become blank and unaccessable

Re:Theme bug (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9559178)

This is a known bug. However, the bug filed for it got marked as a duplicate of another asking to have the dynamic theme switching dumped altogether, so it's hard to say what they're planning on doing about it.

Re:Theme bug (1)

twbecker (315312) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559251)

This has been an issue for a while now. The solution looks like it's going to be that you have to restart Firefox for the theme change to take effect. See here [mozilla.org]

Great work (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9559130)

I really cannot congratulate the Mozilla developers and FireFox teams on this immense effort.

I noticed a little 'downloads available' popup, very nice.

I would like to see the tab-wrapping, where tabs do not reduce in size, but wrap onto a new line, that is handy for people who have about 8 tabs open at once (any more and they should resize)

Great work!

Re:Great work (2, Insightful)

desplesda (742182) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559207)

But it appears you just did congratulate them..

Re:Great work (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9559233)

I guess 'enough' should be in there somewhere :-)

And, it appears that he didn't congratulate them. He didn't say 'congratualtion the FireFox team' he said he coudn't. :-) Well, I will congratulate them.

Congratulations FireFox Team!

Adblock... (3, Insightful)

shic (309152) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559131)

I hope this version either includes Adblock as standard or at least makes it easy to install as an extension. Adblock is a major reason to adopt Firefox - and it was a huge step backwards to find that 0.9 didn't support Adblock by default.

Re:Adblock... (5, Insightful)

Threni (635302) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559153)

I hope this version either includes Adblock as standard or at least makes it easy to install as an extension. Adblock is a major reason to adopt Firefox - and it was a huge step backwards to find that 0.9 didn't support Adblock by default.

Given that previous versions of Firefox didn't include AdBlock either, how does continuing to not include it constitute a `huge step backwards`?

Re:Adblock... (4, Funny)

Skye16 (685048) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559184)

Apparently side steps or nonsteps also constitute steps backwards.

I'm just as confused as you are :O

Re:Adblock... (1)

MindStalker (22827) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559192)

I think what he meant was that adblock became incompatible as of 0.9 and could not be installed. Obviously it is never going to be included by defualt, but the guy was hoping it would. But either way its the maintainers of AdBlock to update not firefox. Expecting a non 1.0 software to keep api compatibility serious reduced its ability to evolve. Heck even mozilla has broken some 1.0 compatibility, they just maintained the 1.0 branch also for people who want compatibility but new security fixes.

Re:Adblock... (2, Interesting)

Threni (635302) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559286)

I think what he meant was that adblock became incompatible as of 0.9 and could not be installed

It's working fine on my 0.9.

I don't really care if it's included or not, given that installing it only takes 1 minute.

What stopped working was MouseGestures, so I'm using the AllInOne thing instead, although I'd be happier with just MouseGestures, as the `hold the mouse gestures mouse button and twiddle the scroll-wheel to navigate between tabs` feature is different there, and I prefer dots to lines as mouse trails (they're faster).

While i'm talking to an at least partially Firefox-savvy crowd, is there any reason why I can't add a new gesture to go to a given URL? I want to make the letter `g` (L,D,R,U,D,L) go to www.google.com but I don't see any way of doing this. I can trap the mouse movement, but that's about it. Any ideas?

Re:Adblock... (5, Informative)

MicroBerto (91055) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559168)

Adblock does rule - but it doesn't work until you go into their message board and use their recommended ruleset (which then works incredibly). They should make that default, or at least question the user upon installation if they would like to use that as default setup.

Re:Adblock... (2, Interesting)

lavaforge (245529) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559303)

Do you have a direct link to the recommended ruleset? I couldn't find it.

Re:Adblock... (2, Informative)

shic (309152) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559170)

In previous versions of Firefox (when I tried 0.8, for example) Adblock was available as the most recommended extension. Now, after I've advised others try Firefox, and they have installed 0.9, the Adblock extension is no-longer available. I've heard that this was due to compatibility problems with the extension manager - though I've no inside knowledge.

Re:Adblock... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9559211)

There is an extension to use your old extensions. I had adblock working and I still have it after upgrading and installing that other extension.

Re:Adblock... (5, Informative)

Murf_E (754550) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559171)

Extensions [mozilla.org] for 0.9.x can be found here
It seems installing over 0.9.0 will keep your old extentions and themes

install firesomething too its the best extention there is

Re:Adblock... (5, Informative)

Kormac (466376) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559176)

The nightly builds of AdBlock seem to work fine for me under FireFox .9 and .9.1.
(Although I did run into the "please wait while Mozilla finishes installing your extension" bug when upgrading from a previous version of AdBlock on my Mozilla .9 install -- but .9.1 fixes that issue)

Get the AdBlock nighly builds at http://adblock.mozdev.org/dev.html [mozdev.org]

Kormac

Re:Adblock... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9559248)

its not built nightly, Adblock up until 0.9 hadn't been updated in 4 months yet it still said "nightly" on the site, bit misleading really
perhaps putting "latest version" would stop that though

oh and worst site ever, if i click the download link it points me to the nigtly page which is where the only downloads are available, great extension but the site is a fricking mess

Re:Adblock... (1)

next1 (742094) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559186)

not sure what you mean by "didn't support adblock by default". I installed adblock as an extension on .9 fine..

Re:Adblock... (2, Informative)

gumpish (682245) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559187)

You'll have to copy and paste, Mozilla doesn't like slashdot linking to their bugs:

http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2482 79

Re:Adblock... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9559194)

They probably won't as it's a rather dubious feature to include in a browser, though I gave up and now use it myself, it's not nice denying the revinue which keeps many websites alive to them, but many people abuse this trust with there flashy fake-windows or strobe effects, so unfortunately the minority has cause me to act against the majority.

Re:Adblock... (1)

Merle Corey (125658) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559223)

Adblock is an independent project and it's still somewhat buggy. Tremendously useful, yes, but it's not mozilla.org/Firefox's fault that the old version didn't work properly with the new extension manager.

Also, in case you haven't seen it yet, there's (finally) a new version of Adblock out at its mozdev [mozdev.org] home.

HTH.

MC

Re:Adblock... (1)

Christianfreak (100697) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559258)

Adblock didn't work because they change the way extensions were done.

You can hardly blame anyone though, Firefox is clearly stated to be a technology preview. When it is considered stable is when the API will quit being a moving target and extensions will just work.

Weird update bug (-1, Redundant)

TheWickedKingJeremy (578077) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559133)

Using Firefox 9.0, I saw the little "update" box popup, so I went to mozilla.org and downloaded/installed Firefox 9.1. Now, when I open 9.1, it still tells me that there is an update available - Firefox 9.1. Someone, please! - save my fragile little mind from this circular install cycle!

Re:Weird update bug (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9559257)

You mean 0.9 don't you?

Is it me (-1, Redundant)

Enlarge Your Penis (781779) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559136)

Or is Firefox nowhere near as much of a resource hog as regualar Mozilla?

Re:Is it me (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9559157)

Or is Firefox nowhere near as much of a resource hog as regualar Mozilla?

It's just you.

Re:Is it me (2, Informative)

beef3k (551086) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559225)

Errr, that's more or less the whole point of Firefox.

Compared to Mozilla; no Composer, no email client, no IRC client, no spaceship landing dock - JUST the browser.

So yes, of course it doesn't consume as much resources as it's big brother.

Yes! (1)

mccalli (323026) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559139)

Procrastination pays off again.

You know the irritating "it's the early bird that gets the worm" moral? Just answer them - now really. Who actually wants to get a worm? I'll hang on for ice cream, if you don't mind...

Cheers,
Ian

Re:Yes! (1)

tuffy (10202) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559185)

You know the irritating "it's the early bird that gets the worm" moral?

"The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese."

Unpopular default theme (1)

kingstalemuffins (786246) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559174)

I guess the new default them released with .9 was pretty unpopular if they are changing it already with .9.1. I, personally, thought it was sleeker then there old default theme. I haven't looked at the new one in .9.1 yet though, but it doesn't really matter since it is so easy to change your theme anyway.

Re:Unpopular default theme (4, Informative)

linuxci (3530) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559208)

The theme in 0.9 was a work in progress released early in the hope to gain some feedback, the 0.9.1 release just is updated with the current progress of that theme.

The original theme in 0.8 and below was removed for licensing reasons. You can still install it by going to the themes secion of update.mozilla.org (also accessible from the Theme Manager in the Tools menu)

Re:Unpopular default theme (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9559224)

It's basically the same, but looks better somehow. Not a big change, but still an improvement.

Re:Unpopular default theme (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9559239)

The 0.9 theme was too flat IMO -- the 0.9.1 has a little bit of 3d/cel shading so they don't look too bad.

Re:Unpopular default theme (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9559244)

The newer buttons are an improvement over the old ones. They look a bit more polished and fit the browser better. Of course none of them even come close to the origonal mac OSX pinstripe theme (not the winstripe theme they turned it into). I actually went back to an old nightly build on OSX to get it back.

holding off on upgrading (4, Interesting)

mabu (178417) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559177)

When I upgraded from 0.8 to 0.9 a bunch of things stopped working; the browser would spawn new windows whenever I clicked on a URL regardless of the config settings, popup-blocking was less-reliable, sometimes the download manager wouldn't close itself after a download was complete, and other weirdness. I think I'm going to hold off this time on promptly upgrading because 0.9 was not an improvement over 0.8.

Re:holding off on upgrading (1)

rograndom (112079) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559274)

I had similar problems, but I traced it to extensions that didn't handle the upgrade very well. Try creating a new fresh profile.

Mozilla (1)

mirko (198274) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559193)

I saw Mozilla's icon along with the word "update", I then wonder if they also added a new feature [slashdot.org] ? ;)

Disappointed (2, Interesting)

Pedrito (94783) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559199)

I didn't start using Firefox until 0.8. For the most part, I loved it. The only problems I had were occasional page layout issues. Sometimes those required me to fall back on IE, which was a bit of a pain. Usually it had to do with certain web forms with multi-line text boxes that it showed way too small to be useful for writing lots of text.

Then I upgraded to the 0.9rc and something got totally hosed. Some dialog boxes would pop up with no text in them (like the download dialog). It also seemed to hose a few other things as well.

I tried uninstalling it and re-installing, but to no avail. So, for the moment, I'm sticking with IE, which is kind of sad. I mean, I loved some of the things in Firefox like the search plugins that let me search IMDB, dictionaries, and so forth. That's a cool feature. But I don't want to spend a lot of time trying to figure out why things aren't working.

Maybe when 1.0 comes out I'll give it another shot. And hopefully they'll improve the install. I particularly hate the fact that I can't just type in an install directory name, but have to go browse the directory. It defaults to C:\Program Files\Firefox and I just want to change the C: to a D: Why does that have to be so difficult?

Re:Disappointed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9559255)

Why didn't you stick with 0.8 then ?

(you can use Ctrl + +/- if text is too small for you)

Re:Disappointed (5, Informative)

linuxci (3530) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559285)

If you're having weird problems with Firefox it might be because there was a bug in some of ther nightly builds and maybe the release candidates (?) that could cause problems with your profile. If you've got nothing critical in your profile (bookmarks, passwords etc) then just try deleting all traces off it and starting again.

In Windows your profile will live in the %APPDATA% directory which in 9x is usually c:\windows\application data and in 2k/XP C:\Documents and Settings\user\application data\ (folder may be hidden).

In this directory delete the directories Phoenix, Firefox and the Firefox directory within Mozilla if it exists.

As this is pre-1.0 software, sometimes problems may occur.

Re:Disappointed (3, Informative)

twbecker (315312) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559306)

You must not have liked it too much to have given up so easily. Deleting your profile, either via the profile manager or manually and then reinstalling would have most likely solved your problem. Considering Firefox takes 1 minute to install, it's not that big a deal.

Re:Disappointed (2, Informative)

upside (574799) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559312)

A few nitpicks:
-0.9rc is a release candidate so expect it to be buggy. In fact it's not even 1.0 so even the FireFox team considers current releases to be pre-releases.
-You can set the install directory if you select Custom in the Setup Type dialog

I'm currently trying to make an MSI installer out of 0.9.1 so I can deploy it across the network using GPOs. Anyone had success with this?

where's my blob? (1)

justforaday (560408) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559201)

They took away my little green blob in Mozilla Poweroyster!!! Although I still get update notifications if I click where it used to be...

Working mirrors (5, Informative)

Halo- (175936) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559204)

http://mirrors.kernel.org/mozilla [kernel.org]
ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/mozilla/ [kernel.org]
http://mozilla.gnusoft.net/ [gnusoft.net]

These worked for me. (Posted as AC to avoid whore-accusations. :) )

Re:Working mirrors (5, Funny)

Halo- (175936) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559221)

Or not.... damnit.... stupid submit button is right below the "post anonymously" checkbox. Too early for fine motor control. Someone with a fuller list will get modded up I hope. Sorry. :(

Re:Working mirrors (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9559222)

"(Posted as AC to avoid whore-accusations. :) )"

Someone forgot to click the checkbox :)

The new default theme is much worse! (2, Funny)

techmuse (160085) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559209)

The old default theme in 9.0 looked very nice. Thsi one looks horrible! Can we revert? Please?

Any new screenshots or detailed changes list? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9559299)

C'mon, someone tell me exactly why I want/need to download and deploy this across several stand-alone machines?


Thanks in advance for any help/links.

Re:The new default theme is much worse! (1)

linuxci (3530) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559313)

Why are so many people calling the previous release 9.0? It was 0.9 and this is 0.9.1 it is still pre-release software - albeit excellent pre-release software and hence the sub 1.0 version number.

New theme (4, Interesting)

Sunspire (784352) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559216)

I was really skeptical of the new winstripe theme in Firefox 0.9, the new changes introduced in 0.9.1 however makes it a LOT better in my opinion. I just wish Thunderbird would now work to unify its theme with Firefox.

It's the small things that makes the browser for me, the look and feel. It's hard to explain it in detail. Going back to IE after using Firefox for a long time just doesn't feel right. For example, there's all these little half-second pauses in IE when the controls and scrolling are unresponsive, times when the right-click context menu won't show up when it's still loading. Sometimes the window stops redrawing for a second or two (especially while running Windows Update, but otherwise too) etc. All these little glitches drive me crazy when I have to use IE.

Good job for the Theme complaints, folks (4, Insightful)

MicroBerto (91055) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559219)

I, among SEVERAL others, were one of those that was vehemently against a change to the dreaded new theme in 0.9. It was said that the new theme was set in stone, and that the arguments have been made.

But that's what's great about this community. We complained anyway, and kept complaining. Our voices were heard - we have access to so many of the developers and are a vocal bunch. I'm not sure if the theme is switched back to Qute, which I like, but all I know is that the 0.9 theme just wasn't professional enough to "take over the world".

Good job to all those who helped the project realize that we needed something better. Open-source is not just software - it's social too. Compared to OSS developers, closed developers don't have close to the conduits of communication to see what the users truly want. Especially when we're that passionate about such 'silly' things.

So keep making your voices heard, and don't let autocracy-like decisions harm your favorite project.

A few random thoughts... (4, Interesting)

NeoGeo64 (672698) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559220)

It's interesting to see how when releases of Firefox are made its only to fix minor bugs and add new features.

However, when updates to Internet Explorer are made, its for massive security holes and exploits, of course, this is only after two weeks of Microsoft saying that a patch is not needed and to not click links [microsoft.com] .

Why are people still using IE6? Back in the old days of the Internet, people weren't interested in using inferior browsers, I wish that same mentality still existed today.

Firefox and Thunderbird are great, however, I switched to Linux and use both applications (Firefox and Thunderbird) and a bunch of other cool Linux apps (Audicity rules!). It's great, because now I don't feel like I'm playing Russian Roulette every time I use my computer, hoping I don't get infested with adware or some random virus everytime I go to a webpage that I haven't been to before.

new paradigm...succinct. (3, Interesting)

cabazorro (601004) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559235)

Netscape lost it's battle trying to follow IExplorer
(jack-of-all-trades) app scheme. It became bloatware. Nobody cared that it could manage email, instant messages and newsgroups when all we wanted is to browse the damn web.
Then came firefox.
small, cute and F*A*S*T.
Yep, Firefox is fast. Just like Google..whatever
you are going to give, give it pronto.
I did make Firefox my default browser. That is a lot to say after 5 years waiting for a viable alternative. Sure company services DEMAND to see
IExplorer in the client info to support us. But at home...I built the net, there I'M GOD!

Re:new paradigm...succinct. (1)

proj_2501 (78149) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559308)

um...

what internet explorer (jack-of-all-trades) app scheme? and how is mozilla following? netscape had mail and news from at least version 2

Firefox vs. IE (5, Funny)

clester (744726) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559253)

Firefox releases:
Download newest Firefox to fix small known bugs..


Internet Explorer:
Home and small-business users: Scan your computer with Windows Update.
IT professionals: See a list of all updates from the Security Bulletin Service.
Download or get more information about the latest critical updates for Internet Explorer:
Get the April Cumulative Update for Outlook Express (837009)
Install the Windows Security Updates for April 2004, which include the Outlook Express update.
Install the February Internet Explorer Security Update (832894)
Read the February security bulletin and get the current updates for Internet Explorer and Windows.
Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (SP1) Download the most recent service pack, which sets a new standard in privacy, reliability, and flexibility.
Use Office Update to Protect Your PC Check for updates that can help improve the stability and security of your Office system.
Other Critical Updates
Top of page More for Home and Small-Business Users
Stay up-to-date automatically or on your own. After you install, there are a few options to keep your system up-to-date. For Internet Explorer users running Windows XP
Windows automatic updating. Microsoft Windows XP lets you automatically download and install important updates to your computer, such as critical updates, service packs, and technology updates to Internet Explorer. When you connect to the Internet, these updates are downloaded to your computer in the background after you receive an onscreen notification. If you prefer, you can have the updates installed automatically without notification. Find out how to turn automatic updates on or off in Windows XP Professional or in Windows XP Home Edition.
For all Internet Explorer users
Windows Update services. As soon as security updates are released by Microsoft, they are available on Windows Update. When you connect to the Internet, Windows Update scans your system and alerts you via Windows Messenger. You can then download and install the updates.
Internet Explorer Downloads page. Check here regularly for all critical updates, recommended releases, and other beneficial system updates for Internet Explorer.
Sign up for the Microsoft Security Update Newsletter for Home Users. This free e-mail alert service for home users ensures that you never miss a Microsoft product security update announcement.
Top of page More for IT Professionals
Get the latest security news and find information on current security updates using these links:
TechNet Security Bulletin Search page. This page makes it easy to find previously released bulletins, which link to updates available for download. If you're looking for an update in a particular form, there are several options.
Microsoft security notification service. Subscribers to this free service receive an e-mail message that contains summary information within minutes of a bulletin's release.

Adjusting my tinfoil hat (2, Interesting)

LondonLawyer (609870) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559264)

Does anyone know if this was a planned release?

It just seems to follow very neatly on the recent IE/hacked websites business. I wonder if there was some extra pressure to get this out the door at a time when it would be able to cash in and if so, if it's likely to have been tested as well as previous releases.

Missed opportunity... (5, Funny)

Junior J. Junior III (192702) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559266)

They should have called this release "9.0 Optimized" just to force AOL to litigate them into yet another name change.

Yus! (5, Informative)

Ckwop (707653) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559269)

Did anyone else notice the CSS/Drawing bug on Slashdot where the side panel overlapped the side panel slightly. That bug has been fixed in this release.

I love firefox :D

Si.

Plugins (1)

blrr (782741) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559276)

am I missing something or does everyone else have to reinstall things like flash etc whenever they update Firefox.

sorry if plugins are regarded with the same contempt as IE by slashdotters...

NOT for Win95! (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9559290)

FF .9 appears to not run properly on Win95. Now the interesting thing is that Mozilla initially stated that .8 was for 98 and later. However, it turned out to run fine on 95. So the web pages were changed to reflect that.

This time, it said "98 and later" and I assumed that they'd made the same error again. But when I tried .9, it just didn't work right. So I went back to .8. But now several versions of Bookmark Link Checker fail to work, i.e., no UI (no buttons or menu choices appear).

Wish they hadn't established the ambiguity in the first place. Had I known that .9 would fail, *I would've just kept using .8 and having the Link Checker work!*

Thank goodness its the same name! (0)

kabocox (199019) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559294)

I was afraid they had changed their name again. I'll be happy if they can just keep the same name for the 1.x series. I have a feeling that they will rename it at 1.0 and then again at 2.0.

Semi OT - Extension question (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9559295)

Anyone know if LiveHTTPHeaders works in the 0.9x releases?

I can't find information on the product info page:
http://livehttpheaders.mozdev.org/

I rely on it so extensively (doing web app development) that I don't want to mess with my working 0.8 installation unless I know I'll be able to use it in 0.9

Thanks to any who reply.

Why all the theme complaints? (1)

Christianfreak (100697) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559302)

What exactly is wrong with the new theme? From what I've seen the new theme is much cleaner. IMHO of course.

screw the default theme (2, Insightful)

Atrax (249401) | more than 10 years ago | (#9559304)

Charamel [members.shaw.ca]

I have nothing do do with this, btw, aside from the fact I love this theme.
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