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GNOME 1.0 Released

justin++ posted more than 15 years ago | from the hurrah! dept.

GNOME 1095

The illustrious Elliot Lee writes "GNOME 1.0 is now available for download. Please peruse the press release and then download it via a convenient FTP mirror (as soon as they sync up). " Update: 03/04 08:36 by J : Whoops - forgot to plug my own program! If you've installed GNOME and want scrolling Slashdot headlines on your panel, check under Panel Applets ->Amusements->SlashApp. Thanks John, Chris, Fred, and everyone else!

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Yes! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996420)

GNOME rules! Great work guys.

/BookerT

Cool Beans! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996421)

Hope it won't be too long until the .debs are out...

Neil Halelamien

Gnome (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996422)

This is great.

I haven't tried it since they jumped to the 0.99 series.

Is the printing arch. in place yet?

I assume so or it wouldn't say 1.0..

I liked gnumeric but it wasn't much good for me without printing...

Miguel de Icaza a volunteer? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996423)

The vast majority of the current group of some 250 developers, including Mr. de Icaza, are volunteers who donate their time to the cause of Free Software.

I thought he was employed by Red Hat to do Gnome?

-- Erik Corry without his cookies

I used the whole 0.99.x series and it's ready!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996424)

hi,

I followed all the 0.99.x tarballs quite closely and gnome works great for me...

It's stability is great... Some of the apps coming together are brilliant... Gnumeric is going to be the spreadsheet software of the future...

I fear a couple of important things might still be missing... like unified printing.. but apps can still print using standard unix lpr...

Gnome is a great system.. fully lpgled for software freedom..

I recommend checking it out today...

Congrats to the whole team for their great work. May we continue to surpass KDE in terms of popularity...

ta,
ws

I like GNOME best, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996425)


Let's see. ftp.gnome.org is jammed, of course. I went to about four mirrors, and they either didn't have anything in the 1.0 directory or didn't even have a 1.0 directory at all.
On gnome.org, the directions for install that the press release linked to says "not done yet" and refer you to the old (horrible) instructions.

I hate to be a critic, but wasn't this announcement a bit premature? Couldn't you have at least given time for some of the mirrors to update so that when the great herd goes out for the software, they won't all have to constantly pound on the already beleagured ftp.gnome.org?


This doesn't feel very "1.0"...

---
Jason Eric Pierce

It's WM Independent (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996426)

I use it with Window Maker, and they're very nice together. There are a several configuration features that go with Enlightenment (and they
make E easier to set up really) but overall, it probably doesn't matter what WM you use.

It gives WM a great pager by the way.

chente@hex.net

I want MUI (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996427)

Too bad there's no MUI for linux. Gnome is ok, but MUI is excellent.

WOrks? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996428)

Gee, I hope it actually compiles and installs this time. Does anyone know if it works(easily) with gtk-themes?

What?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996429)

Take a look at the bugs [gnome.org]
I, for one, hope the list is just out of date and these bugs have been fixed...
Heaven forbid another desktop environment that actually ships a release with known bugs!

WOrks? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996430)

Uh.. the other ones have too genius. Anyway, I know i know the 0.99.8 had a theme chooser.

Re: Works? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996431)

I have .99.8 working great with the theme selector and themes... I don't expect to see any difference.

Miguel de Icaza a volunteer? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996432)

hehe you could consider all the GNOME developers volunteers. I saw this article from some RTP online mag that gave a range of what the RHAD Labs salaries were. hehe oh my, they are definately volunteering.

MUI? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996433)

You're not talking about Magic User Interface that was popular for the Amiga, are you? Just checking...

It's WM Independent (Not really...) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996434)

In order for some features to work the wm must be "Gnome-aware". Enlightenment, Icewm, and Windowmaker (which is also KDE-aware) are the only Gnome-aware wms (that I know of).
Of course I haven't checked out Gnome in a while (I'm happy with KDE - Mac style menubar!) so flame me if I'm wrong.

I hate the slashdot effect :( (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996435)

wouldn't it be nice if every server could handle slashdot's volume? oh well, I'll wait a day or two..

Help system (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996436)

Last time I tried GNOME, which was around 0.99.3 the help system was... not very good. Has this changed for the better in the last couple of weeks?

But why does E suck so much? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996437)

For a group that supposedly cares about substance not style, and reliability... Why does E suck so much?

esd & ppp (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996438)

Does anyone else have a problem with their ppp connection when using esd. Gnome starts, then I get massive numbers of errors on the ppp line, kill esd and its ok again.

Pity, cause I would love to use it

But gnome-libs-1.0 isn't done! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996439)

http://www.gnome.org/devel/gnome-libs-task-list.sh tml

Gnome (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996440)

Excel95 under WINE was significantly faster
the last time I ran it (0.3) -- i wonder
whether this is due to inefficiecy in
GNUmeric, GNOME or GTK??

::THIS IS A SLASHDOT BUG:: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996441)

Gee look, I'm logged in as "Matts". Funny thing, because I'm NOT MATTS!

Oh my god! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996442)

..but I can't imagine its improved _that_ much since 0.99.3 that I'm using.

You're saying this before you've even tried it?

-----
"I know Linux is supposed to be a good OS, but it was created by some hacker in 1991, I can't imagine its improved _that_ much in just 8 years"

[written by some idiot]

I want MUI (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996443)

Write it then. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth, this is free and a volunteer effort after all.

Window clean-up rips off GNOME's drawers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996444)

#419: Window clean-up rips off GNOME's drawers

I like that one best ;^)

--
Jason Eric Pierce

What?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996445)

Heaven forbid another desktop environment that actually ships a release with known bugs!

I myself have never worked on a project in my entire career that wasn't released with known bugs. This isn't to say I've ever been on a team that released a project with serious known bugs.

Given that GNOME have only just (in last 5 mins).. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996446)

I suspect that they were talking about the
1.0pre whatever thingy that I couldn't even
get to compile on EGCS 1.1.1 and GLIBC 2.0.7.

GTK+ question (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996447)

Ok, so I'm downing gtk+-1.2 now, but I'm wondering, does the latest Gimp use this (the only gtk-app I have on my system)?

Compile it yourself~!@()!(@)@! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996448)

Yeah, I compile everything from *.tar.gz. Slack rules.

But I can see the benifits of having a .deb: you can uninstall it easily when 1.0.1 pops out the door on Friday, for one. For two, perhaps he's one of these (gasp) computer newbies that doesn't quite get it yet. Or, perhaps, he has (gasp^2) better things to do than compile a GUI-enhancer.

Better things to do? Yeah, like reading slashdot... :)

Mirror (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996449)

I'm putting the binary rpms (this doesn't violate the GPL, right?

Nope, no problem, as long as you tell people where to get the source. Thanks for the mirror!

Check again on critical (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996450)

There are no resolved ones either.
They must just not use critical

From the press release... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996451)

"GNOME is a giant step towards achieving the Free Software Foundation's goals of providing a whole spectrum of software for everyone from experts to end-users"

End-users cannot be Experts...

Compile it yourself~!@()!(@)@! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996452)

Why in the F should I want to compile everything? What ever happed to the good old whatever.EXE days.... sheesh!

DOS 3.4

LinuxPPC version? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996453)

No mention of PowerPC in the press release.

How long will we LinuxPPC users have to wait?

But why does E suck so much? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996454)

I gotta agree, E really sucks. Sure it's very configurable and you can make it to look really cool too. But out of the box E is so darn confusing to use. WindowMaker, or even good old Fvwm2, on the other hand are so clean and easy to use right after basic installation. My bet is that E need a week or so of tweaking the configuration before I will start to like it.

Miguel de Icaza a volunteer? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996455)


I'm sure the RHLabs "volunteers" will be
laughing when Redhat has their IPO ;-)

GNOME! GNOME! HOOT! HOOT! HOOT! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996456)

I am profoundly stirred...

Pass the bucket.

The anti-aliased canvas display system? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996457)

Pardon me for asking, but what is the fantastic "anti-aliased canvas display system"? Some workaround for the lack of anti-aliased font in X maybe?

It runs with gtk+-1.2 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996458)

GNOME uses GTK+-1.2, but it's ok. The old programs will still work, since you dont exactly install gtk+-1.2 'over' the old gtk, but rather beside it.
Cant say I know how they've done it in the RPM versions, but personally I install the 1.2 stuff under /usr/local instead (to be really really sure:). The only mess you'll have is while compiling since you'll have to have only a single copy of header files during compilation. Then again, I find myself compiling for 1.0 fairly rarely these days.

Windows 2000 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996459)

I imagine Windows 2000 will also be released at some high profile event when it's not quite ready yet too.

Remember it's not important that it's done right it's only important how good it looks!

Not Really! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996460)

I won't use it.

My system works fine with MWM. KDE and GNOME are
for newbies.

% kill -19 gnome ; kill -19 kde ; startx

Compile it yourself~!@()!(@)@! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996461)

If you can GET it to compile. ;-)

MUI? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996462)

What is MUI like? Got any screenshots?

stupid GTK+ question (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996463)

How do I get themes to work in GTK+ 1.2? I could get them working under 1.1.* with the gtk-engines package, but how do the themes work under 1.2?

did they update guile-gtk? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996464)

Last night that damn thing pissed me off because it looks for gtk 1.1.x and if you have a -higher- version (e.g. 1.2.0) it won't compile. You can't imagine my elation as I played with autoconf...

Check again on critical (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996465)

There are PLENTY of Grave bugs...

hate the panel (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996466)

You mean its windowslike compared to the KDE panel ????

Hmm, well, take a look at them and rethink about whats windowlike about the two ...

Arrrggghhhh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996467)


I have spent my entire afternoon looking my gnome.org's local mirror (www.uk.gnome.org) learning about it, now I'm half-way through getting 0.98.8 and you tell me 1.0 has just come out? I don't believe it. Happy? Of course, but could 1.0 have made it about 2 hours earlier? And please let sunsite...uk mirror it NOW. Please....


UK FTP mirror btw - ftp://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk/pib/Mirrors/ftp.gnome.o rg/pub/GNOME/

LinuxPPC version? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1996468)

>No mention of PowerPC in the press release.
>How long will we LinuxPPC users have to wait?

Unless they've forked the source by architecture, as soon as you compile the source I would guess.

Compile it yourself~!@()!(@)@! (1)

Shiska (131) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997083)

Don't depend on debs or rpms! Arrrrrrggh!
----------------- ------------ ---- --- - - - -

? (1)

whoop (194) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997085)

Does GNOME require you to build a window manager that is compliant with it, the way KDE does? To use all the nifty features, that is. I'm sure some programs will work OK and all with any wm...

I like GNOME best, but... (1)

whoop (194) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997086)

One person up above said this has been out since Monday. If that's the case, these are some sad mirrors. :) I've gone to probably 10 of them, and not a one has the files.

Guess I'll just stick to KDE for a couple weeks for things to die down...

Files!?! (1)

Mike Hicks (244) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997090)

/me raises his hand carefully

Where did the files go?!? They seem to be missing.. Even on ftp.gnome.org!! Oh well, I'm sure they'll appear soon ;-)

Miguel de Icaza a volunteer? - He is, check your.. (1)

Herschel Cohen (568) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997096)

facts. He is employed by a research institution in Mexico City and does work on GNOME on his time.

What?! (1)

HoserHead (599) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997097)

Bugs are inevitable. Checking `critical' bugs, I see none. If everyone waited until every single bug is gone, we'd never ever get any software. Debian has bugs. Even with known fixes. And it will still ship 2.1 with those bugs intact, because sometimes you just can't risk fixing one bug and breaking ten other things. Somewhere, a line has to be drawn.

Well.. (1)

HoserHead (599) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997098)

that's because E is not written by the people who made GNOME, but by Raster and Mandrake. It just happens to be the most gnome-compliant window manager. If you don't like it, use Window Maker - that also obeys gnome hints.

quibbling continued (1)

gavinhall (33) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997102)

Posted by Saurus:

nah, they said 1.0 on wednesday.

Miguel de Icaza a volunteer? (1)

R-2-RO (766) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997111)

Where can I find a listing of those Salaries?

R2

I want MUI (1)

Shaman (1148) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997139)

I'll second that.

exactly.. (1)

Nate Fox (1271) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997143)

I've been having the same probs, and now I got in on first try. not oly that, but its runnin at a good 60-80k off the t1 here at school...God Bless dorm inet connections :)

-----
If Bill Gates had a nickel for every time Windows crashed...

Oh my god! (1)

Matts (1628) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997154)

I don't know about anyone else, but I think it's too early. I know you can't wait forever, but there's one thing expected of point-oh releases - stability. Sure gnome is reasonably stable given its development time, but I can't imagine its improved _that_ much since 0.99.3 that I'm using.

Let the flames begin...

Blackbox & Others (1)

Daniel (1678) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997164)

qvwm is..saw it on Freshmeat recently..

Compile it yourself~!@()!(@)@! (1)

Daniel (1678) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997165)

I've been compiling Gnome from CVS for a couple of months. It takes my computer the better part of a day. He may want to use the program.. :-)

Whose idea was this? (1)

Daniel (1678) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997166)

I've got CVS Gnome on my computer. It's incredibly stable...given where it was a month or so ago. But whose decision was it to go to 1.0.0? Was this just because we ran out of numbers? Hearing about it first on slashdot was also somewhat..amusing..it hasn't been announced on Gnome-List...

I suspect the only thing at 1.0.0 is gnome-libs. Everything else is too flaky still. (in gmc: right-click on a file icon. Select "Properties". Click on "Cancel".) I'm already having enough trouble dealing with people who complain about Gnome's alphaness...

(otoh..most components are almost as stable as the Microsoft equivalents and don't show any sign of ceasing to improve. So it's no less newbie-friendly than Windows and can't do anything but get better.. :-) )

Daniel

? (1)

Tim Moore (1808) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997189)

I guess that depends on which nifty features you're talking about. Integration between apps and the window manager (as demonstrated by the GNOME pager/tasklist, for example) requires WMs to support certain hints. But the vast majority of the functionality provided by GNOME and GNOME apps does not require window manager support (I would expect this to be true of KDE as well, though).

FWIW, the hints I mentioned are supported already by Enlightenment, IceWM and Window Maker.

GTK+ question (1)

pridkett (2666) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997206)

Gimp 1.1.2 does compile with GTK 1.2. I just recompiled it this morning to get my theme support back.

LinuxPPC version? (1)

tgd (2822) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997212)

If there's SRPMS on there, you could just download all of them and rebuild PPC versions of the RPMS.

It'd take quite a while -- Gnome isn't quick to compile -- but it should work. I squeaked in a moment or two after this article was posted here and got right into the server, but I just grabbed the binary RPMS not the source ones so I don't know if the source ones are there.

exactly.. (1)

dattaway (3088) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997222)

I'm trying to mirror it too. On the T1, it started out as 25K/sec, now it is down to 2.5K/sec, and by the end of the day I suspect it will be 25bytes/sec. :(

Gnome and GIMP? (1)

Shag (3737) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997230)

So... if I get GNOME, can I still run GIMP? I ask because every time I grab GIMP, I read a little doc file that says GIMP DOESN'T WORK WITH GTK+ 1.1 AND LATER. That is to say, it wants 1.0.x. Which is all well and good, except that GNOME seems to require 1.1 or later. I'm not about to sacrifice GIMP (which I use on practically a daily basis to earn my living) just to pretty up the ol' desktop, but if there's a stable GIMP that'll deal with GNOME, I might try it!

Blackbox & Others (1)

dvdeug (5033) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997247)

Blackbox is also Gnome-aware. I believe several other window managers either have it or are working on it.

GNOME! GNOME! HOOT! HOOT! HOOT! (1)

squarooticus (5092) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997249)

To all others who would try to hype interfaces based on proprietary libraries and in doing so try to make us stray from our quest for a Free OS, I say we should all sing along:

"They can try to bind our arms,
But they cannot chain our minds or hearts!
We will keep the faith inside our souls
And never let it go.
We are forever free."
- Stratovarius, Forever Free

GO GNOME! GO LINUX! WORLD DOMINATION!!!!!!!!

--
Kyle R. Rose, MIT LCS

I use it full-time... (1)

squarooticus (5092) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997250)

E isn't completely bug-free, but even Raster emphasizes that it's beta software (although he does try to stress its stability, also). Before starting to use it again in February, my last try was back in October or so, when it seemed really unstable and remarkably slow. Now, however, it's quite fast and very stable.

You still get occasional crashes, but the blatant bugs have all been fixed. I'm still running the Feb 16 snap, so I'm not sure what's happened since then. Check out the changelogs. (www.enlightenment.org)
--
Kyle R. Rose, MIT LCS

Have you tried e-conf? (1)

squarooticus (5092) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997251)

Configuring it by hand is a bear, but if you use e-conf and others' themes, it's great. I'm using the BrushedMetal theme in E and the analagous one in gtk and my desktop looks awesome. This for only about 5 minutes of configuration.
--
Kyle R. Rose, MIT LCS

Testing witches (1)

squarooticus (5092) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997252)

Well, culling out the poseurs from the true free-believers is somewhat akin to testing witches. Everyone is exposed to my rantings, whether they are guilty or not. =)

That said, I am glad that KDE exists if just because it gave the free software community a kick in the ass to get a truly free graphical user interface started. Sure, I don't like KDE for the still-as-yet-unresolved Qt licensing issues; but I also think it just looks like crap.

But, in the end of the day, to each his own...

At this point, I'm just confident that GNOME will win out. As a Debian user, this is the one time I am glad that RedHat has the muscle it does. RedHat's support will more than make up for KDE's head start. Additionally, in a few months, maturity will be a non-issue, and the greater number of killer apps for GTK (the GIMP, Gnumeric, whatever you consider important) combined with RedHat's support will starve KDE.

If this sounds hostile or confrontational, keep in mind that AS I SAID a few weeks ago, I will embrace the KDE developers and users as brothers once Qt goes free. It still isn't. I'm waiting, TrollTech...

Ye believers: Keep the faith!
--
Kyle R. Rose, MIT LCS

Oh my god! (1)

Nekromantic (5185) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997256)

You'd be surprised - There were HUGE increases in stability since 0.99.3. Those guys were in Insane Bug Fix Mode, and GNOME is now quite stable. Take a look at it.

But gnome-libs-1.0 isn't done! (1)

Nekromantic (5185) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997257)

That list is so insanely out of date it's not even funny.

::THIS IS A SLASHDOT BUG:: (1)

QueenFrag (5694) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997265)

really?

It's true (1)

Booker (6173) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997272)

The Dallas Morning News article alluded to a Wednesday release... I was rebuilding a box on monday, but held off til today for Gnome, fingers crossed. Yay! :-)

Thank you, thank you, thank you! (1)

Booker (6173) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997273)

Despite some of the whining you'll hear around here, you have an immense amount of gratitude from hundreds, if not thousands, of people.

Way to go Gnome!

Miguel de Icaza a volunteer? (1)

itp (6424) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997277)

You were incorrect.

--

It's WM Independent (Not really...)(yes, actually) (1)

Andreas Bombe (7266) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997287)

That "some features" are mainly the Pager/Tasklist and probably a few more things. But nothing that is really required, it's just some nice improvements. You can really use it with any window manager.

MUI? (1)

Andreas Bombe (7266) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997288)

SASG homepage [sasg.com] with link to MUI

But why does E suck so much? (1)

Laxitive (10360) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997337)

'Cause raster is a nut who really doesnt care about the people using it. This is in no way supposed to be derogatory. I just dont think raster designs E with a great desire to see people all over the world use it and live peacefully and prosper. He's just playing around with nifty features and challenging himself. That's one of the reasons I dont use E, it's not designed with a user in mind. You can use WindowMaker with gnome though. I personally use FVWM 1.0 - the sweetest wm to ever come out. It's small, fast, doesnt try to be some ultra-super-duper-cool-WM, and it's pager kicks E ass. E has some really nice features to it though. To each his own, this is why there are different wm-s.

-Laxative
A million monkeys jumping on a million keyboards for a million years will eventually create Shakespeare's Hamlet.

100 monkeys jumping on 100 keyboards for 20 days will produce the source code for Windows'95

Was this a good idea? (1)

VValdo (10446) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997338)

Just wondering if now was the right time... I could see arguments for it, considering Linuxworld and all...

W
-------------------

No News here. (1)

Rahga (13479) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997393)

It was first announced on the front page of Dallas Morning News back on Monday.

HURRAH annyway ;)! Go GNOME!

But why does E suck so much? (1)

raistlinne (13725) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997395)

What are you referring to? I use E full time, and have been for the last several months. I can't remember it ever crashing on me, it's quite fast (though admittedly I'm running it on a fast machine), and allows me to configure things exactly how I want them. I'm using the cyrus theme right now. It's very fast, very good looking, and very small. I've got the most screen-realestate that I've had in a long time. The only way that I could get more that I can see would be to run without anything sticky on the screen and use only menus and key-cording, but I don't like that.

Now, E is a little tricky to get working if you're not lucky. Under a default RH 5.2, i just grabbed all the rpms and it worked. Then you do e-conf, and have a real easy way to configure your E setup.

What about E sucks?

does it run with gtk 1.2 or 1.1 ? (1)

josepha48 (13953) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997399)

Does it run with gtk 1.1 or 1.2?
and can I install gtk 1.2 on top of 1.0 and will all my programs that were compiled with 1.0 still work or do I need to recompile them all and update em?

please can some one email me some info on upgrading from gtk 1.0 to 1.2 as I know that 1.2 dropped some functinos from 1.0...
[mailto]
joeja@mindspring.com
I really want to try gnome but I need gtk 1.x first.... and need to make sure all my current apps work still too

Joe

Woo Hoo (1)

NaTaS777 (14285) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997413)

I've been waiting forecver on this. Promised myslef not to update gnome untill 1.0 and yes it's out. KDE watch out..this is FUD on KDE I like both...but prefer gnome!
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hate the panel (1)

jpgrimes (15330) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997423)

I think the idea behind gnome is great but ...

I hate the panel, its clunky, doesn't seem to give me anything I don't get in Windowmaker or Afterstep. And its so obviously MS derived it scares me. Am I missing something, can I kill the panel and get some worthwhile features out of gnome? I prefer just using Windowmaker or even kde. When's kde 2.0 coming.

wow, I got in (1)

Fizgig (16368) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997435)

I've had trouble getting into ftp.gnome.org at 2am on Wednesdays. And NOW I get in? Hmm, there's nothing in the folder on the official website. What gives?

wow, I got in (1)

Fizgig (16368) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997436)

Hmm, now it's there and I'm getting 264k/s. This is very strange! An anti-slashdot effect!

Gnome (1)

Fizgig (16368) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997437)

They said the printing wouldn't be in 1.0

Mirror (1)

Fizgig (16368) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997438)

I'm putting the binary rpms (this doesn't violate the GPL, right? You know where to get the source) at ftp://fizgig.dorm.duke.edu/pub/GNOME I'm putting them there as a install/upgrade them, so they're not all there yet. I'll take them down if this kills my connection, but other than that it should be good.

Mirror (1)

Fizgig (16368) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997439)

Before I screw things up, how do I set the max number of users with ftpd that comes with redhat? It's being invoked through inetd.

Red Hat 6.0 is just around the corner... (1)

Linux Freak (18608) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997462)

Woo hoo, with GNOME released that means Red Hat 6.0 might be out within a month and a half.

It's going to be a wild year, folks!

But why does E suck so much? (1)

trcooper (18794) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997463)

I've been very impressed with how E has been running for me. Occassionally I come across a bug, normally something to do with focus and will have to restart, but haven't had a crash in quite a while. It's gotten much better since DR 14, and with gnome 0.99.x I've been really happy running it as my full-time desktop.

Good work! (1)

Jonas ÷berg (19456) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997473)

Just on time! Great to see this long-awaited release out the door. Have a nice one over at Linux World!

Now for E15! (1)

DuckWing (19575) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997474)

This is cool shmool! GTK/GLIB 1.2, GNOME 1.0, now I just can't wait for E 0.15 to hit. All the base architecture is now completely updated.

GNOME is supposed to be WM indepentant and it is. But there are is a spec sheet (forget whwere) for Window managers to take advantage of GNOME if present.

First? (1)

Willy K. (19859) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997475)

I'm headed to FTP now!
Good luck getting it. :)

Yes, it's true - 1.0 is finally out (1)

Norway (203073) | more than 15 years ago | (#1997512)

Yes, it's true guys - 1.0 is finally released!

Don't blame us - we were really working very hard during the last months and weeks to make you that release the best it could ever be - and most of us spent a large amount of their spare time into that release.

Just keep in mind that Free Software lives from volunteers!

We've done our best - and we're very excited about it.

For now, it's party time.

Happy Gnomeing,
Martin
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