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Microsoft Offers A Peek At New Search Engine

timothy posted more than 10 years ago | from the beta-but-working dept.

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ObsessiveMathsFreak writes "The Inquirer is reporting that Microsoft is offering a preview of its new search technology. The search engine preview has a minimalist interface, similar to Google. Microsoft claims over one billion web pages searched, but admits the fact that searching is a little slow. This technology hasn't yet been incorporated into MSN Search, though the site claims it eventually will be. In related news, the Financial Times is reporting that Microsoft are to improve the regular MSN Search site by removing paid advertisements from regular internet searches, a move that will cost them 'tens of millions of dollars.' Are the Search Engine Wars finally upon us?"

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fp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9581509)

first post! boomp boomp bloop plop blooooooooooooooooooooop fart pl0p ohhhhhhhh!

Search for Linux (5, Interesting)

grandmofftarkin (49366) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581514)

Redhat, SUSE, Mandrake, etc. don't turn up on the first page. WTF?

Oh I get it. Microsoft don't want their competitors turning up in search results.

Hmmm ... I think I'll stick to google.

Re:Search for Linux (5, Interesting)

SimplexO (537908) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581525)

A search for 'search' returns a list of websites that all contain the word search in their domain name, none of them are any of the good ones - Google, AV, Yahoo, and (even!) MSN.

Hrm...

Re:Search for Linux (5, Informative)

strictnein (318940) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581549)

very similar to how it turns up for a seach on Linux. All sites that have a *.linux*.* type domain address.

Is this their new search scheme? Type in a word and we'll return matching domain names? That's awesome technology!

Re:Search for Linux (2, Funny)

mledet (6754) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581552)

Search Error
MSN Search is temporarily unable to process your request.

Please try again in a few minutes.

EID: f:618926422 - 1041:1041:10004:1059

HC: 71d61b13

Re:Search for Linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9581635)

Well, my "asian porn" search is giving a search error too!

Re:Search for Linux (1)

mattkinabrewmindspri (538862) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581682)

I got that too.

Re:Search for Linux (1)

gid13 (620803) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581559)

Heh... And my first search for Knoppix resulted in an error. But it seems to be working now. Maybe it's just being slashdotted?

Re:Search for Linux (1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9581573)

Are you just that desperate for antiMS comments that you would come up with a way to troll this?

Linux.com is the FIRST hit. What moe would you like. You act like their first hits are anti-Linux articles!

Fucking idiot.

Re:Search for Linux (1)

Otter (3800) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581675)

Meanwhile, Linux.com is #3 at Google, behind Linux.org and Red Hat.

Actually, what this all suggests is that the Microsoft search weights the domain name much more heavily than Google does. Everything in their top 10 has "linux" in the domain.

Re:Search for Linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9581577)

I wish that was the case because i'll take any reason to dislike microsoft, but every term you mentioned came up with thier respective company web sites

Re:Search for Linux (1)

grandmofftarkin (49366) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581590)

SUSE turns up as search result 69! ;-)

Is Microsoft trying to say something here?

SUSE is like sex!

Re:Search for Linux (1)

Zorilla (791636) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581711)

SUSE is like sex!

Well, it does have SaX2. Close enough for most slashdotters.

Re:Search for Linux (4, Funny)

scotch (102596) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581662)

Sorry, no results were found containing "wikipedia"

Ha ha.

Re:Search for Linux (2, Interesting)

awhelan (781773) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581696)

MSN was famous for this. It is probably a coincidence since I doubt they'd dare do it again, but a few years ago Microsoft was accused of intentionally blocking certian linux websites from search results.

Accuracy (4, Funny)

jmays (450770) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581517)

What is important is that a search for litigious bastards [sco.com] still returns the SCO Group.

Re:Accuracy (1)

jintxo (698154) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581710)

Damn it! That's the first thing I searched for too :-)

"Miserable Failure" (4, Funny)

viper21 (16860) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581519)

Hey, at least microsoft did one thing right. [msn.com]

-S

Re:"Miserable Failure" (5, Funny)

strictnein (318940) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581619)

with Jimmy Carter #4 and Michael Moore #3
Oh... and Hillary Clinton #5 and Howard Dean #7
And Michael Moore at #9 and #12
Rummy at #8
Slick Will at #14

Same algorithm (2, Interesting)

baywulf (214371) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581638)

Would this imply that Microsoft is using the same algorithm as Google?

L0L Y0U M4D3 T3H G30RG3 8U5H FUNNY (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9581654)

+++++99999999999: Funny!!

xfree86 (5, Funny)

SealTit (606480) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581522)

Looks like it still thinks that xfree86 is "adult content"

http://techpreview.search.msn.com/results.aspx?q =x free86&FORM=SMCRT

Re:xfree86 (2, Funny)

Bricklets (703061) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581631)

Looks like it still thinks that xfree86 is "adult content"

More importantly xfree85 is not considered "adult content." I can understand someone having trouble with "69," but "86"??? Come on. What position do two people have to be in to form that shape.

Re:xfree86 (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9581645)

given the new licensing agreement, many /.ers might tend to agree with Microsoft on this one.

Technologies.. (0, Flamebait)

neodymium (411811) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581523)

Their site seems to rely on javascript and ASPX heavily. I seriously doubt that these technologies will help creating a larger market share...

Re:Technologies.. (2, Insightful)

Tobias Luetke (707936) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581591)

relys on aspx ?

I think you are a bit confused. aspx means asp.net and thats purly serversided. You can't *rely heavily* on this, its a choice of system.
And a damn good one right now if i might add this. People who used it will agree with me there. ( asp was crap )

Re:Technologies.. (2, Insightful)

DaHat (247651) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581629)

Why?

One is entirely server side and is transparent to the client other then the extension in the address bar. The other is a widely supported technology that's well supported on almost every platform with a recent web browser.

One thing's for sure... (1)

artemis67 (93453) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581641)

they don't seem to be standing up to the slashdotting their receiving right now.

Wonder if... (5, Funny)

bje2 (533276) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581528)

...they'll have a "Microooooooosoft" graphic at the bottom of the screen to allow you navigate between pages of results...

Re:Wonder if... (5, Funny)

Zorilla (791636) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581659)

And directly to the right of the "Search" button will be a button that says, "I'm Feeling Retarded"

Re:Wonder if... (1, Offtopic)

troon (724114) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581694)

Micro$$$$$$$$$$$soft.

Lameness filter workaround text goes here.

First experience... (5, Funny)

SammysIsland (705274) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581529)



Search Error



MSN Search is temporarily unable to process your request.

Please try again in a few minutes.

EID: f:2114719238 - 1041:1041:10004:1059

HC: 71d61b16

Re:First experience... (4, Funny)

bje2 (533276) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581567)

i just got that too...was working fine a few mins ago...ha, microsoft has been /.'d...

Playing catch up (5, Informative)

Mz6 (741941) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581531)

I like it only for the simple reason that the website I co-Admin is ranked 2nd. And not only that, the site is listed serveral times on the first page. In Google, the first appearance doesn't show up until the 5th page. (Search term: Mazda6) But that would probably be the only reason why I like it.

Out of curiousity I also decided to check out MSN's Sandbox [msn.com] . This is pretty much their upcoming software and features. I was surprised to find pretty much everything they are listing has already been inplemented by Google. Time to play catch up!

NewsBot [msn.com] = news.google.com
MSN Toolbar [msn.com] = Google Toolbar
3 [threedegrees.com] = I'm thinking this is just like Orkut, 3 is software that connects a small group of family and close friends, people who know and trust one another, so they can do fun things together in a whole new way. 3 is a beta test of an innovative application that lets users connect online, extending real-world social interactions.
NetScan [microsoft.com] = This is Google Groups.. searches USENET newsgroups

The only "original" item on there was TerraServer [terraserver-usa.com] and that has been up and running for some time now.

I would be interested to see if MS decides to add much of the same features that Google has. Such as phone number searches, unit conversions, etc...Some things that make Google really unique. Perhaps MS could tie the search term, such as an address, to TerraServer will allow a person to get a direct overhead view of that place. However... They need to get some more updated maps to make this useful.

Re:Playing catch up (4, Funny)

strictnein (318940) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581677)

3 [threedegrees.com] = I'm thinking this is just like Orkut

And quite possibly uses the same code...

Pretty comprehensive preview there, methinks (1, Redundant)

GillBates0 (664202) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581532)

Search ErrorMSN Search is temporarily unable to process your request.

Please try again in a few minutes.

EID: f:1658889542 - 1041:1041:10004:1059

HC: 71d61b14

a LITTLE slow??? (1)

ErichTheWebGuy (745925) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581534)

admits the fact that searching is a little slow

9:06:41 AM MDT: search for 'microsoft sucks'
9:07:38 AM MDT: returned first page of results, first result points to microsoftsucks.org

I think I'd call that more than a little slow. The term unusable comes to mind.

Re:a LITTLE slow??? (1)

forevermore (582201) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581658)

did my typical search for "1u server" (one of our company's target search phrases). Not only did it take 25 seconds to process the request. You're darn right it's unusable. Google comes back with the results faster than galeon can render the page.

test searches = bad (1)

jb.hl.com (782137) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581535)

http://techpreview.search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=o verheating+graphics+card+tnt2&FORM=SMCRT

All irrelevant bollocks related to shopping and motherboards. If I wanted to get info on overheating graphics cards, I'd be fucked.

"Miserable failure" returns nothing.

Re:test searches = bad (1)

Joe U (443617) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581596)

http://techpreview.search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=o verheating+graphics+card+tnt2&FORM=SMCRT

All irrelevant bollocks related to shopping and motherboards. If I wanted to get info on overheating graphics cards, I'd be fucked.

But if you wanted to buy an overheating graphics card, you could get a great deal.

haha.. It's dotted already (-1, Redundant)

bl8n8r (649187) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581538)

Search ErrorMSN Search is temporarily unable to process your request.

Please try again in a few minutes.

EID: f:1658889542 - 1041:1041:10004:1059

HC: 71d61b14

Looks just like my blue screen at home =)

It certainly is a microsoft product (1)

Mr. Spontaneous (784926) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581539)

I don't see a search page, all I get is this:?

MISSING CONTROL: lwhead
MISSING CONTROL: lwbody

Is this the result of Microsoft getting slashdotted? (kinda like putting a bag of holding inside a portable hole...)

Its all fun and game 'till someone loses an eye... then it's just fun

Re:It certainly is a microsoft product (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9581571)

I don't see a search page, all I get is this:? MISSING CONTROL: lwhead MISSING CONTROL: lwbody That's because Microsoft doesn't let faggots use its products.

"fisherman" (5, Insightful)

Chris Pimlott (16212) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581548)

Okay, random test. Search for "fisherman":

Sorry, no results were found containing "fishermen"

1 billion entries? Please.

Google:

Results 1 - 10 of about 1,350,000 for fishermen [definition]. (0.33 seconds)

Nice work so far MS...

Re:"fisherman" (2, Interesting)

bje2 (533276) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581602)

i randomly searched for "baseball" on both... Microsoft's #1 results was the mlb.com website (which is what i would expect)... Google's #1 result was baseball-almanac.com doesn't really mean anything, just thought that was interesting...

Re:"fisherman" (2, Funny)

sould (301844) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581647)

Okay, random test. Search for "fisherman":

Sorry, no results were found containing "fishermen"


C'mon...I mean copying and pasting isn't that hard now is it?

accuracy (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9581550)

The results do not seem to be very accurate. I searched for "sushi" and it found this:

Search ErrorMSN Search is temporarily unable to process your request.

Please try again in a few minutes.

EID: f:2114719238 - 1041:1041:10004:1059

HC: 71d61b16

And the most popular search is now... (3, Funny)

Mr. Smoove (160347) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581551)

Linux just to p*ss off Bill, courtesy of all his friends at /.

Search for linux (1)

glass_window (207262) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581667)

of course was the first thing I did. came up with the following:

Search ErrorMSN Search is temporarily unable to process your request.

Please try again in a few minutes.

EID: f:1658889542 - 1041:1041:10004:1059

HC: 71d61b14

Shhh... secret Microsoft code! (4, Interesting)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581556)

function search(var terms)
{
return screen_scrap_google(terms);
}
On a more serious note, this engine is not all that great. For example, if I do a search for my name I primarily see forum posts. While that's great, it's not very useful. Listing software I've written, articles that mention me, etc. are far more useful results, especially to a future employer. Google nails this because the more interesting stuff always has back-links to it. Sorry Microsoft, you need Google's technology to compete with Google.

Their indexing is waaaay out of date (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9581564)

Searched for my domain, found results pointing to web pages that I haven't had online since November of 2002.

Slow (1)

chrispl (189217) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581565)

Hmmm seven comments and the search is already very very slow (16 seconds load time here). Is it possible that we can bring down MSN with slashdot?

Hint incase it goes down: Its a google clone.

it VORKS... (1)

dcordeiro (703625) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581568)

Results 1-15 containing "litigious bastards" NEXT >>
1 -
The SCO Group, Inc. | SCO Grows Your Business
Home How To Buy Shop Worldwide SCO UnixWare 7.1.4 Promotional Small Business Edition Packed with Value For a limited time only, customers can license the new SCO UnixWare 7.1.4 Small ...
sco.com/?sco=litigious+bastards

Slow? (1)

ntb (694877) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581572)

A "little slow"? I typed 'xxx' , pressed enter and... waited, waited, waited... about 20 secconds. This is not what I would call "a little slow".

Yep! Micro$oft alright (1)

Darkstar9969 (516815) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581574)

Disclaimer: I'm not an inherent MS basher....they just give us SOOO much fodder!!!

Search Error -- -- -- MSN Search is temporarily unable to process your request. Please try again in a few minutes. EID: f:618926422 - 1041:1041:10004:1059 HC: 71d61b13

Worse Results? (1)

AuSerpent (5434) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581575)

I'm personally getting worse results from it than the current search engine on MSN.

I've done 3 searches this morning and both google and MSN search found what I needed from the first page of search results but this new one didn't for many pages back. I wasn't even trying to fool it.

From the blog of Ross Burton: (1)

BRSloth (578824) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581576)

Microsoft have a technology preview of their new MSN search engine. The litmus test is, of course, searching for "ross burton".

The good news: top hit is the root of my blog. However, so are the 2nd, 3rd, 4th... In fact all but five of the results in the first five pages are from my site, and those others are all pages from the Burton (the snowboarding people) web site. Amusingly, they have shown me the index pages from every day I've blogged on.

Why not see for yourself how well Google searches for "Ross Burton", compared to Microsoft's new engine. Thank you Google for More results from www.burtonini.com!

Long Discussion (5, Informative)

TheUncleBob (791234) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581579)

about the performance and quality of the results of the search preview over at Webmaster World [webmasterworld.com] , including some feedback from MS employees.

haha, MSN you suck. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9581582)


Search ErrorMSN Search is temporarily unable to process your request.

Please try again in a few minutes.

EID: f:651496928 - 1041:1041:10004:1059

HC: 71d61b15

The last horse finally starts the race... (1)

spoonani (786547) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581585)

This Dell DJ of search engines could be a testiment to the decline in convential search-engine revenue as a result of "the googleization" of dynamic content delivery systems. A move that will "cost microsoft tens of millions?" I like the creative spin, but I'm sure we can channel that energy elsewhere throughout redmond, and I'm sure they've run the numbers.

They have to have something up their sleeve... (3, Insightful)

dobedobedew (663137) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581586)

So far, google has given me no reason to distrust them. Microsoft on the other hand... No thanks. I gave up on MS years ago. I'm sure I am not the only ./'er who feels that way.

By "minimalist" they mean "thrown together"? (2, Insightful)

bangular (736791) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581588)

Looking at it, it's not minimalist in the same sense google is. Google has a lot of content that is extremely well organized without a lot of extra crud. Google's content is well formatted and easy to read. Simply taking out your ads and superfluous fonts and graphics doesn't make put in the same ranks as google.

Boycott (4, Interesting)

OYAHHH (322809) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581592)

Anybody know what the search engine spider calls itself.

I make sure that msnbot is not allowed to traverse my web site via the robots.txt file. I'd like to do the same with this robot.

BTW, I've noticed no appreciable decline in web hits at all.

Yahoo's preview (4, Informative)

barcodez (580516) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581593)

Just to balance things... http://labs.yahoo.com/demo/nutch/

Search Error.. Slashdotted? (2, Funny)

Ba3r (720309) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581598)

Search ErrorMSN Search is temporarily unable to process your request. Please try again in a few minutes. EID: f:1658889542 - 1041:1041:10004:1059 HC: 71d61b14

slow (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9581600)

It took nearly 30 seconds to return results for "gates balmer anal".

Tech preview (0, Redundant)

SageMadHatter (546701) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581601)

Search ErrorMSN Search is temporarily unable to process your request.

Please try again in a few minutes.

EID: f:2114719238 - 1041:1041:10004:1059

HC: 71d61b16


An honest preview it is, hehe

Biased (3, Insightful)

mogrinz (548098) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581604)

Try a search for 'email' or 'calendar' and guess who always comes up first? Not exactly impartial results, are they?

Google (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9581610)

I tried a search for 'Google':

Search ErrorMSN Search is temporarily unable to process your request.

Please try again in a few minutes.

EID: f:2114719238 - 1041:1041:10004:1059

HC: 71d61b16


________________________________________
http:/ /home.tiscali.be/zoetrope/wintris

Re:Google (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9581673)

But a search for 'Microsoft' returns this:

Microsoft Corporation
Find free downloads, support, tips, and details on all Microsoft products.
www.microsoft.com


_______________________________________
http:// home.tiscali.be/zoetrope/wintris

Yea, a billion sites... (5, Funny)

slashrogue (775436) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581615)

Sorry, no results were found containing "microsoft fud"

nobody uses MSN search out of choice (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9581616)


its because MS points every mom n pops homepage at it when they buy a windowsPC as soon as they learn how to change it to Google they dont use it again

MS have to force their preferences on the user just like those handy homepage activeX hijackers

still for us geeks it wont matter, i have been firewalling MSN off for all our users, its too much of a security/privacy risk with MS's non-expiring cookies and GUID's that they dump on you as soon as you launch MSIE for the first time on a new windows install

Where Am I? (1)

enforcer999 (733591) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581624)

It is not only slow, it does not have me! I am going back to google.

Slashdotted already (1)

Genevish (93570) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581633)

MSN Search is temporarily unable to process your request.
Please try again in a few minutes.

EID: f:618926422 - 1041:1041:10004:1059

HC: 71d61b13

If it's like everything else M$ does... (1)

Wizzy Wig (618399) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581637)

it probably won't work with non-M$ browsers.

litigious bastards (1, Redundant)

Barsema (106323) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581643)

At least they got litigious bastards [msn.com] right

Google & Yahoo are quaking in their boots... (1)

retsamxaw (64491) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581644)

Search ErrorMSN Search is temporarily unable to process your request.

Please try again in a few minutes.

EID: f:618926422 - 1041:1041:10004:1059

HC: 71d61b13

Over Abundance of Vendor Sites (1)

dykofone (787059) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581646)

The problem that's developed with google is searching for any consumer electronic brings up a ridiculous number of small vendors trying to sell that product, often times even outranking the products official site. Microsoft's new engine seems to be even more prone to this, just try searching for a Sony Digicam (as soon as it begins working again...)

My expericence: (1)

protomala (551662) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581650)

First try searching for upperland:

Search Error
MSN Search is temporarily unable to process your request.

Please try again in a few minutes.
EID: f:1658889542 - 1041:1041:10004:1059
HC: 71d61b14

The second search worked, but google already know me and place my page called upperland on first, and plus have options to search only brazilian or portuguese pages.

The problem was when I tryied searching for "sport club internacional" that gave me a: Sorry, no results were found containing "sport club internacional". It's the name of my soccer team in brazil.
Google found lots of pages, even american/international sites citing it. Very bad result here for msn experimental search.

WHAT THE FUCK?WHAT THE FUCK?WHAT THE FUCK? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9581653)

SHITCOCK!?!?!?

Only 15 rsults for Linux (2, Informative)

Foofoobar (318279) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581661)

Gee, one billion pages and only 15 results for Linux? Why am I not surprised?

Missing Elementary Stuff (1)

kingbyu (682024) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581664)

This engine has a long ways to go, but is fairly updated. I did a search for the BYU Ham Radio Club. Google only started returning the proper site as a result about a week or two ago. This MSN engine seemed to have scanned the whole site and was very good about returning the correct site. The problem is, that it returned too much of the site. The whole first page of the search results contained different pages from the site. I thought it was pretty elementary to make sure that search results only returned the most relevant page or two from a particular site. Who knows how many intel.com results it might give me if I searched for "intel pentium" Its a good thing that the search "feature" in windows does blow like this search engine. Oh, wait..... doh!

Works really well (2, Funny)

mcgroarty (633843) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581671)

My first search on http://www.search.msn.com/ was "Google rip off" and it worked pretty well.

Try it! The best result is in the blue box at the top!

this is no good (1)

Titchener (769895) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581678)

I searched for "Microsoft sucks" and didn't find anything. Are you telling me that no where in the entire crawlable internet do those two words co-occur? I'll stick with google. At least a search for Google sucks turns something up.

Ha! (0, Redundant)

SamBeckett (96685) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581680)

What do we have under the hood? A brand new algorithmic search engine -- built from the ground up -- on Microsoft technology. Give it a spin and tell us what you think.

But they repeat themselves...

Search Error

MSN Search is temporarily unable to process your request.

Please try again in a few minutes.

EID: f:2114719238 - 1041:1041:10004:1059

hmm... (4, Insightful)

gyratedotorg (545872) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581683)

MSN's website is the most popular internet site for US users, with nearly 100 million unique visits each month

im slightly off topic here, but i cant help but wonder if the web browser included with the most widely used desktop os in the world DIDNT use msn.com as the default home page, would anyone have any reason to go there?

And what will be the new verb for their technology (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9581686)

I MSNed it?

to answer their question (2, Interesting)

CoffeeJedi (90936) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581689)

What do we have under the hood? A brand new algorithmic search engine -- built from the ground up -- on Microsoft technology. Give it a spin and tell us what you think.


This site will be available for a short time. After we have time to incorporate your feedback and add some features it'll be back, new and improved.

what do i think? i think you should stop having the marketing-drones right your copy, when Google says things like "give it a spin" or "it'll be back", it seems genuine, when Microsoft says it, it sounds forced and derivative of the original

Microsoft's gonna lose this one (5, Insightful)

lowe0 (136140) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581691)

While I'm normally pretty pro-MS (I actually like their products - I'm not kidding) MS stands very little chance here.

They're fighting a marketshare war, and searches are pretty much a commodity - unless they've got something very specialup their sleeves, their searches are the same as anyone else's.

And let's face it, Google won the mindshare a long time ago. Just like everyone knows what Windows is, everyone knows what Google is, even non-techs. Hell, it's damn near a generic term for searching by now.

aww, my favorite search failed... (1)

stuph (664902) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581692)

Sorry, no results were found containing "donkey punch"

Horrible Failure (1)

Bonker (243350) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581698)

I searched for "Horrible Failure" at MSN and got:

Search ErrorMSN Search is temporarily unable to process your request.

Please try again in a few minutes.

EID: f:618926422 - 1041:1041:10004:1059

HC: 71d61b13


I seached for "Horrible Failure" at google and got:

Re: horrible failure to compile on Solaris 2.6
Russell Kroll
Wed, 18 Jul 2001 15:51:02 -0500

Koos van den Hout wrote:

> I am trying to build nut for our solaris 2.6 setup (so we can really start
> using a bigass APC ups with max 50 amps output current). For some reason
> apc does not deliver network-aware software with such a beast.
[...]
> "../include/common.h", line 89: warning: dubious tag declaration: struct termios
> "common.c", line 441: warning: dubious tag declaration: struct termios
> "common.c", line 442: identifier redeclared: cfmakeraw

I'm guessing from the directory names that you're trying to build 0.45.0
here. There's a patch that went into 0.45.1-pre2 that fixed a
few termios.h problems. Try it and see what happens.

All: when this sort of stuff happens, try the latest development
version. Normal releases are sometimes 3-4 months apart, and sometimes
the bug you are reporting has already been fixed in the -pre series.

Not all bad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9581702)

http://techpreview.search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=i is+shellcode&FORM=SMCRT

Slashdot tested... (1)

Pirogoeth (662083) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581707)

No wonder it's slow...

I also searched for "geocaching" and got back a single result: the gc.com homepage. Funny, I'm pretty sure there are a few more geocaching sites out there.

First impressions (1)

aldoman (670791) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581713)

It's really slow. It's probably because of the SlashDotting but I think they are going to hit major problems scaling ASP.net and IIS to the size of Google (100k servers).

The results themselves are quite good, actually. I'm not sure what is going on with 'Linux' etc but they are far better than the current search MSN site that I am pained to see when 'new users' press the search button on IE.

Does it work at all? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9581717)

All I get is:

Search ErrorMSN Search is temporarily unable to process your request.

Please try again in a few minutes.

EID: f:618926422 - 1041:1041:10004:1059

HC: 71d61b13

What's the search bot's name? (1)

fiori (45848) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581718)

I'll deny it access to my site. If it pays attention to the robots.txt file, let's just starve it of information for its database.

Something I wish Google had (3, Insightful)

KuNgFo0 (519426) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581720)

I really like how each result found has a button to quickly/easily provide feedback about it.

Feedback:

  • Is exactly what I was looking for
  • Has nothing to do with my search
  • Shows inappropriate content (e.g., adult site)
  • Shows illegal content
  • Is not fresh (information is out-of-date)
  • Is spam or junk
  • Contains a dead link (title link does not lead to a page or site)
  • Is missing a description or the description is too short
  • Has a description that doesn't match page content
  • Other

and
If you expected a specific website in the search results but it wasn't there, enter the web address (URL) here:

Google's version of such a thing (like yahoo's) is just a comment box that gives you the feeling that nobody really ever reads. This looks like something a script could handle/automate and actually do something about.
Of course it would have to be intelligent enough to wait for a significant about of 'feedback' from a variety of IPs to avoid companies trying to harm the rank of their competitors.

No surprises here. (1)

tsukasa137 (707581) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581722)

Search Error
MSN Search is temporarily unable to process your request.

Please try again in a few minutes.



Yep.
Definitely a Microsoft innovation.

I Shit You Not... (1)

TrollBurger (575126) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581723)

The very first thing I search for is "Slashdot", and my result: ______________________________
Search Error



MSN Search is temporarily unable to process your request.

Please try again in a few minutes.

EID: f:1658889542 - 1041:1041:10004:1059

HC: 71d61b14
______________________________

One thing you have to hand to Microsoft is their commitment to consistency.

Very biased... (1)

LuckyStarr (12445) | more than 10 years ago | (#9581725)

I searched for "wheel mouse" and got a microsoft.com advertisment page for their hardware. On google I get Colas Nahaboo X mouse wheel scroll page. :)

I searched for "postfix policy" to get a description on the postfix policy framework and I got:

Search Error

MSN Search is temporarily unable to process your request.

Please try again in a few minutes.

EID: f:618926422 - 1041:1041:10004:1059

HC: 71d61b13
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