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HDTV Comes to the Mac

pudge posted about 10 years ago | from the mmmmm-hd dept.

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konfoo writes "Elgato just announced the availability of their FireWire DTV ATSC receiver (ATSC is the USA standard for digital and high definition television), EyeTV 500, at a price of around $350. It can be used in tandem with TitanTV to get EPG data and pick shows to record. Now Mac owners too can view and record those hidef broadcasts. On a sidenote, lets hope that the broadcast flag and other efforts don't squelch cool new products such as this." We reviewed the original EyeTV USB a year and a half ago. Since then, their product line has expanded, with all other models sporting FireWire, and covering a variety of analog and digital TV sources.

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24 comments

scriptability (5, Informative)

OmniVector (569062) | about 10 years ago | (#9592917)

I talked to some of the elgato people at the WWDC booth about eyetv. My favorite thing about this system is it easily scriptable via apple script, and all the hdtv files are just straight mpeg2 (easily accessible). I hope with Tiger they support automator and give metadata based on tv show recordings.. Will make tv recording that much easier.

thumbs up to El Gato! (4, Interesting)

jdbo (35629) | about 10 years ago | (#9593064)

While I can only testify to the effectiveness of their USB recorder, I feel the need to give a big thumbs-up to the company that has made my TV watching both more efficient and enjoyable.

At some point in my theoretically $-solvent future I plan to upgrade to one of the FW-based options, and the HDTV version looks pretty schweet. :)

That said, particular "advanced" options I'd like to see in the EyeTV software (which is fundamentally similar in interface across hardware versions) include some degree of automated commercial-marking/trimming for archived programs, either based on templates (many shows commonly feature commericals at consistent breakpoints during the broadcast, which obviously lends itself to a template-based solution), or recognition of particular image(s) (many networks use consistent "bumpers", which can be used (via image-recognition) to mark the beginning and end-points of commercials.

Given a chunk of time it's possible that I could put something like this together on my own (yay for EG using standards-based video!), but given the current success of their interface efforts, I'm confident that any set-up which they integrate would be superior to any external hack.

My Idea, mod up please :-) (3, Interesting)

MacFury (659201) | about 10 years ago | (#9596321)

My idea is to provide an online database of a shows total duration and the when and how long the commercials are. This is communicates with a client video player. When the client records a tv show, meta data is stored about the shows channel, time it was broadcast and show name.

A user can then watch the show and mark when commercials begin and end. This information is sent to the server's database.

That data is then available to everyone who has recorded that show. They can choose to skip over previsouly defined commercials or watch the entire recorded video stream.

It would have to have a decent userbase to be useful, but I've seen worse ideas come to life. :-)

Re:My Idea, mod up please :-) (1)

jdbo (35629) | about 10 years ago | (#9596386)


I hadn't really thought about the shared db issue, I think that's a good idea... there are some general issues around broadcasting/syndication that add complexity to the set-up - different edits of shows in syndication (different content edits/different commercial insertion points), determining the "start point" for the show - still, nothing that can't be overcome (once it's understood that this is a bit more complex than, say, CDDB).

g5 only (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9593443)

Now Mac owners too can view and record those hidef broadcasts.
Only if the mac owner owns a powermac g5 because its the only mac that can play back 1920x1080 mpeg2 files.

Re:g5 only (4, Informative)

Rand310 (264407) | about 10 years ago | (#9593696)

No, not just a G5, but a Dual Processor G5 in order to view full screen HD records. Though it scales for us without such beautiful machines (thick wallets).

I'd really like to know how useful this box is. I'd love to watch TV on my Mac, but I'm not even sure how many "over-the-air" channels I have anymore, much less HD channels...

oh well

Re:g5 only (3, Interesting)

foidulus (743482) | about 10 years ago | (#9595709)

Elgato makes other, more affordable models that hook up through USB or firewire. While you may not be able to make the highest quality recordings(which would require some cpu power to avoid loss), you can still get decent quality. If you have a powermac g4, you can also look at this [amazon.com] , which has the added advantage that you can play console games on it, well you theoretically can with the external devices, but because there is a 1.5 second delay from when the source comes in to when it displays(which doesn't matter much for tv) playing games might not be much fun.

Re:g5 only (1)

Glendale2x (210533) | about 10 years ago | (#9596714)

Only if the mac owner owns a powermac g5 because its the only mac that can play back 1920x1080 mpeg2 files.

Which is why the method I use [mattinen.org] with an old 266 G3 is preferable to me: the HD stream is recorded on the computer, but the TV's tuner does all the decoding work. Granted, I'm doing OTA recording, but that's what I watch so that's what I do.

Re:g5 only (1)

dbirchall (191839) | about 10 years ago | (#9697915)

...and there are just so many places broadcasting 1080p!

Hopefully this thing can also handle 720p and all that?

Apple provides free HDTV recording tools at ADC (4, Informative)

jeffehobbs (419930) | about 10 years ago | (#9593449)

...as outlined in this excellent hint right here [macosxhints.com] from MacOSXHints.com.

This presupposes you can get the hardware HDTV box from your cable company, but that's usually only a nominal fee (+$10 a month).

~jeff

Re:Apple provides free HDTV recording tools at ADC (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9593931)

MOD PARENT UP.

No need for expensive gear, just use a firewire cable box.

Still no closed captioning (4, Insightful)

awtbfb (586638) | about 10 years ago | (#9593809)


Come on people. This isn't fancy technology or a proprietary format. Do your homework [robson.org] and implement it already. Closed captioning has been vaporware for too long on EyeTV.

HD PVRs (2, Funny)

dthree (458263) | about 10 years ago | (#9594249)

I can think of one industry that must love them: hard drive manufacturers.

No cable, no satellites, no deal (1)

wealthychef (584778) | about 10 years ago | (#9594305)

I think these have great potential, if only they could be combined with an IR blaster or directly connected to enable control of a cable or satellite box. Right now, I stick to TiVo because it performs flawlessly with Dish satellite TV, so I can get Sopranos etc.

DIY HDTV on your Mac (4, Interesting)

djupedal (584558) | about 10 years ago | (#9595539)

check it out....not for the meek [macosxhints.com] - all you need is a Comcast HD box w/FireWire and a smattering of developer apps...oh, and considerable hard drive space wouldn't be a bad idea either :)

HDTV Mac OS X for Australia (2, Informative)

darmou (34207) | about 10 years ago | (#9596599)

Here is the dvb driver/viewer for Mac OS X in Australia.

http://www.defyne.org/dvb/

Daryl

Already Done (3, Interesting)

Glendale2x (210533) | about 10 years ago | (#9596696)

I've been doing this for about a year already [mattinen.org] ; with existing hardware. Firewire to Mits TV and I'm recording. Works with any FireWire enabled HDTV tuner out there.

ATI HDTV PCI Card (3, Interesting)

jo42 (227475) | about 10 years ago | (#9597644)


Eh?

Why doesn't ATI simply write some Mac OS X drivers for the HDTV Wonder [ati.com] ...? After all, they know how to write video drivers - how hard could it be?

Re:ATI HDTV PCI Card (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9700766)

> after all they know how to write video drivers

Clearly you've not owned many ATI products ;-)

- j

Elgato has a serious problem (1)

Ilgaz (86384) | about 10 years ago | (#9598584)

I am after their V100 or something, the PAL mpeg 1 one for cable TV (usb) and know what? I can't buy it.

I thought it will be cheaper and more clever to buy it instead of giving my Philips 6 head NICAM VHS to service for tuner fix, with CC in my hand from Istanbul I tried to buy it...

There is NO possible way! All their online stores, all the shop.yahoo.com search, froggle, buy.com search... I couldn't buy the damn thing. No international shipping.

Besides all, congratulations to them for releasing it for mac.

Re:Elgato has a serious problem (1)

Chucker23N (661210) | about 10 years ago | (#9598850)

Did you try at all to fill out their sales form at http://www.elgato.com/index.php?file=shop_contact ?

Re:Elgato has a serious problem (1)

Ilgaz (86384) | about 10 years ago | (#9598857)

Yes,

They were kind to respond immediately but no help. I can't believe our TR companies not interested in their distributor stuff too. So, don't misunderstand, I don't blame them.

They just have to figure a way to sell their product to "other" countries than those they listed.

Tell me a way, I buy it right now. I need that product lol. Got like 300 vhs tapes to master digitally, I am in TV business.

Re:Elgato has a serious problem (1)

Chucker23N (661210) | about 10 years ago | (#9608850)

"Tell me a way, I buy it right now."

Well, surely you know someone from a country they *do* ship to. Have him or her buy it for you, and ship it to you. :-)

If you have the $$$ --- (1)

chicagozer (585086) | about 10 years ago | (#9697893)

Use a mail forwarder.

http://www.myus.com/
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