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New Radar Sees Through Walls

CowboyNeal posted about 10 years ago | from the watching-me-watching-you dept.

Privacy 397

artemis67 writes "A small Israeli company has developed a radar system that uses ultra-wideband technology to produce three-dimensional pictures of the space behind a wall from a distance of up to 20 meters. The pictures, which reportedly resemble those produced by ultrasound, are relatively high-resolution and are produced in real time. Wow, it sounds like the potential benefits of this device are huge, saving lives of soldiers, firemen, or police; the potential for privacy invasion, however, is similarly large."

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Our gratitude (4, Interesting)

andyrut (300890) | about 10 years ago | (#9593164)

On behalf of the Peeping Tom Society I say thanks, RadarVision!

If it's not already Slashdotted, you can download the sample video [] off of the RadarVision website. The display doesn't give you Superman see-everything-in-detail-through-walls kind of powers (Lois Lane: "what kind of underwear am I wearing?"), but it's still pretty cool that this kind of thing can be done without using heat signatures and whatnot.

Re:Our gratitude (5, Funny)

DHR (68430) | about 10 years ago | (#9593251)

wow, a glowing blob, what an invasion of privacy.

Invasion of privacy needn't involved your likeness (1)

PhysicsGenius (565228) | about 10 years ago | (#9593384)

This device can tell someone how many people are in your house and give them some big hints about what they are doing (on blob on top of another, etc). If the blobs are correlated with information on who enters and exits and when then they can start to get a good picture, so to speak, of what you are up to. I'm sure an ACLU lawyer could think of a dozen other privacy violations here.

Re:Our gratitude (5, Interesting)

Short Circuit (52384) | about 10 years ago | (#9593444)

Actually, I think a low-resolution system is a worse invasion of privacy than a high-resolution.

A low-resolution system is liable to lead to much more subjective interperetation in court. So you see the shape of the blob change slightly while he's at his computer. Is he drinking coffee or is he getting off looking at child porn?

Re:Our gratitude (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9593425)

I can't wait to see the *hot* new sexy Palestinian Girls Gone Wile video!

Better start checking empornium for a bit torrent...

the plan (-1, Troll)

The Clockwork Troll (655321) | about 10 years ago | (#9593177)

The plan is to install these on the other side of the "security fence" so Palestinians can watch as Israelis make "n'ya n'ya" faces at them.

That's something to remember... (4, Funny)

teutonic_leech (596265) | about 10 years ago | (#9593178)

... next time I read the newest Playboy mag at home - LOL

Oh good (5, Funny)

Aggrazel (13616) | about 10 years ago | (#9593182)

Now if we can just condense this technology into a pair of glasses ...

No fears... (5, Funny)

swordboy (472941) | about 10 years ago | (#9593183)

This stuff will never penetrate my Tin Foil Apartment [] !

Re:No fears... (2, Funny)

SEWilco (27983) | about 10 years ago | (#9593281)

What is the best brand of tinfoil for radar?

Re:No fears... (1)

swordboy (472941) | about 10 years ago | (#9593326)

What is the best brand of tinfoil for [anti-]radar?

It is called, "Foiled Again" and it is made by Hannah-Barbera.

I already tried this (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9593184)

When I was a kid, I ordered the X-Ray vision glasses advertised in the back of my comic book. I was not pleased with the results.

Hmm (1)

rfinnvik (16122) | about 10 years ago | (#9593185)

...See through... ...Israeli... ...Walls...

Hmm.... Sounds like useful technology.

Seinfeld :) (1)

phyruxus (72649) | about 10 years ago | (#9593348)

Jerry: (to Kramer) Yeah, I got it on Ebay. Isreali surplus. You can see through walls!

Kramer: Ya-hey! Let me borrow it.

Jerry: You? What do you need to look through walls for?

Kramer: Elaine's neighbor invited me to dinner tonight.

Jerry: No way. I'm not going to let you spy on Elaine. Besides, why should you get to try it before I do?

George: Isn't the whole idea a little unethical? I mean, most people can't look through walls. Its almost like you're cheating somehow.

Jerry: Lighten up, George. It creates a simulated picture based on ultra-wide band radiofrequency scans. It's not really looking through a wall. If I see nudity, is it really any worse than if I just close my eyes and imagine it?

(I'm sure Elaine would have her own view on this. :)

the sword has two edges (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9593186)

with technology comes benefits and drawbacks. We are desparate for the benefits and become dependent on them, while drowning in the drawbacks.

terrahertz imaging (4, Insightful)

bobthemuse (574400) | about 10 years ago | (#9593190)

Isn't this similar to the terahertz imaging [] previously discussed? Also seen here [] and here [] ?

Re:terrahertz imaging (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9593483)

Yes, but now the Israelis have done it, which makes it so much more important.

Used for "saving lives"? (-1, Troll)

PhysicsGenius (565228) | about 10 years ago | (#9593194)

Or used for pre-emptively assassinating political opposition leaders? You make the call, but remember it was in Israel.

Re:Used for "saving lives"? (-1, Troll)

dave420 (699308) | about 10 years ago | (#9593235)

No - it's pretty accurate. If by "lives" you mean "kids" and if by "saving" you mean "sending a bulldozer to repeatedly run over"

It would be funny if it weren't so freakin' horrible. Ladies and gentlemen - your tax dollars at work.

Re:Used for "saving lives"? (1, Offtopic)

dj_virto (625292) | about 10 years ago | (#9593434)

Yeah, the Tomahawk missiles seem to have the political murders covered pretty well.

Re:Used for "saving lives"? (0, Troll)

delaine1975 (793535) | about 10 years ago | (#9593455)

Yes, it would be nice if Isreali soldiers didn't "need" to destroy the homes of civilians to catch alleged terrorists.

Re:Used for "saving lives"? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9593487)

If the soldiers had better way to find snipers firing from behind kids throwing rocks, eg using radar vision, then their nervous-trigger-fingers would be less likely to fire at kids while trying to get the sniper. eh?

Re:Used for "saving lives"? (1, Insightful)

klasikahl (627381) | about 10 years ago | (#9593476)

Or used for pre-emptively assassinating political opposition leaders? The only people that Israel assassinates are terrorist leaders. If you think Yassin was a "political" leader, you speak for your own stupidity. Political leaders do not use exploding children as their means of communications; politics is the art of not having to resort to violence. In Israel, lives are saved by killing terrorist leaders. Killing is, however, never the preferred method. Israel still arrests hundereds of more terrorists than it kills. The ratio of arrested to killed is unbelievably high.

Mr. Sharon ... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9593198)

Tear down that wall !!!

hmmm...... (1)

Osgyth (790644) | about 10 years ago | (#9593200)

IDK, without the pretty pictures, it just seems less interesting

didn't read the article, but what about timeDomain (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9593202)

a few years back, didn't the company TimeDomain do something like this already with ultrawide spectrum radar?

Re:didn't read the article, but what about timeDom (2, Informative)

tprox (621523) | about 10 years ago | (#9593318)

I know TimeDomain was pushing pretty heavliy into the Ultra Wide Band technology before it was fairly well known.

Last I heard they were in litigation with one of the national labs over IP. I'm not sure what the outcome is, but from the look of their website [] it looks like they've been pushing ahead in their research for more than just radar, but also for comms systems.

Re:didn't read the article, but what about timeDom (1)

Phreakiture (547094) | about 10 years ago | (#9593351)

didn't read the article

Obviously. If you had, you would have known this.

Who modded this informative?!?

wow (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9593206)

Isreal is hellbent on bettering the nazi record.
Good to hear they took the lessons to heart.

Very cool (3, Interesting)

AKAImBatman (238306) | about 10 years ago | (#9593208)

I could see this being especially useful for counter-sniper sweeps. If you can see through buildings, you can do a helicopter sweep of the area and verify that no snipers are waiting to kill a VIP on the move.

Re:Very cool (1, Insightful)

dave420 (699308) | about 10 years ago | (#9593267)

All from 20 feet away? All you need is a building with a point 20 feet from the nearest walls, and the technology is rendered useless.

Re:Very cool (3, Informative)

Mr. Spontaneous (784926) | about 10 years ago | (#9593299)

"All from 20 feet away?"

the article says 20 meters.

Re:Very cool (2, Interesting)

AKAImBatman (238306) | about 10 years ago | (#9593306)

All from 20 feet away? All you need is a building with a point 20 feet from the nearest walls, and the technology is rendered useless.

The handheld unit does 20 feet away. A heli powered unit might be more powerful. Besides, the advantage to a helicopter is that you CAN get within 20 feet to check. It slows down the sweep, but at least you can make sure that your President or foreign national is safe.

Re:Very cool (1)

AKAImBatman (238306) | about 10 years ago | (#9593438)

Correction, the range of the handheld unit is 20 meters. That's 65 feet.

Re:Very cool (2, Interesting)

DrEldarion (114072) | about 10 years ago | (#9593275)

Of course, on the flipside, if you manage to integrate it into a scope, it could be a very useful tool for snipers as well.

Re:Very cool (1)

HexRei (515117) | about 10 years ago | (#9593332)

given the point of sniping (avoiding the necessity of getting close to someone before shooting them), that 20 meter limitation is going to be a problem.

Re:Very cool (2, Interesting)

AKAImBatman (238306) | about 10 years ago | (#9593347)

That's a bit more doubtful. One of the sniper's biggest advantages is his extreme distance (sometimes as far as miles away). Even a high powered military scope would have difficulty in finding the target at that range. However, that doesn't mean that you couldn't use it to target someone in the building next door. You'll have to be satisfied with increased risk, however.

Re:Very cool (3, Funny)

genner (694963) | about 10 years ago | (#9593373)

Every counter-strike wall hacker would agree with you.

saving lives? (2, Insightful)

EpokhusMinimalist (691947) | about 10 years ago | (#9593217)

Well I dont think it would save the lives of the soliders on the other side of the wall, thats for sure

Nobody cares about civil rights or liberty anymore (5, Funny)

Skyshadow (508) | about 10 years ago | (#9593218)

C'mon, invasion of privacy? What is this, 1999 all over again? Didn't you get the memo? You can *trust* the government these days -- it's not like our leaders are so untrustworthy anymore that they might get a blowjob or two. That's why you won't be needing those pesky rights to free speech [] or due process [] anymore.

Seriously, this sort of thing might be great for our soldiers in the field, and in my little optimistic heart I'd really like to think that something like this could exist in our country without being abused by the "Total Law Enforcement" crowd. I mean, the US *should* be able to operate that way, what with having Constitutional protections and all that.

Given what's been going on recently, however, it seems like only a matter of time before somebody justifies [] using it on Americans on the grounds of terrorism prevention (after which, of course, everything will become terrorism of one kind or another). I mean, the USA is suddenly in the business of above-the-law prison camps [] , war without end and other awful little things like abusing the prisoner (in a non-masterbatory context), and all it took to get us to this point was the deaths of 3000 Americans.

Does anyone really doubt that looking through the walls of people's homes will be next?

Re:Nobody cares about civil rights or liberty anym (0, Troll)

dave420 (699308) | about 10 years ago | (#9593294)

The US army is only good at blowing the crap out of something, not sneaking around and looking without being seen. Look at Iraq - if ever a theatre demanded tact and subtlety, this was it. How did they act? Terribly. Tens of thousands of innocent lives lost, and all that was gained was tunrning a country on its head, endangering everyone in the process.

Israel's ethnic cleansing (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9593360)

Why am I not surprised this came out of Israel? The whole country revolves around pushing people off their land, then when they have the nerve to fight back they do their own version of ethnic cleansing. Israel has become a brutally racist police state.

Re:Nobody cares about civil rights or liberty anym (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9593368)

watch the video.

you can't even classify the image as a blob.

it's worse then a blob.

shields down cowboy.

police busting parties (4, Funny)

TubeSteak (669689) | about 10 years ago | (#9593381)

You modded this funny, but just wait till the police get their hands on this and start busting highschool and college parties. Think of the next generation. Think of the children. No more underage drinking, no more makeout sessions at the movies... what about when your mom gets one of these and catches you jerking off in the basement from outside the house. Yea, that's when the /. crowd will start saying "ummm... maybe this wasn't so cool"

Re:Nobody cares about civil rights or liberty anym (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9593382)

What does the article have to do with the US?


You forgot a link (1)

SimplexO (537908) | about 10 years ago | (#9593394)

I think you forgot a link:
Given what's been going on recently, however, it seems like only a matter of time before somebody [] justifies using it on Americans on the grounds of terrorism prevention.
I'm born, raised, and currently live in Missouri. I loathe that man.

Re:Nobody cares about civil rights or liberty anym (1)

Tackhead (54550) | about 10 years ago | (#9593459)

> Does anyone really doubt that looking through the walls of people's homes will be next?

"GODDAMNIT! Wallh4x0r1ng c4mp1ng p1gz!"
- Last words of your neighborhood crack/meth dealer after stakeout and resulting pwn4ge.

(Liberals: Feel free to substitute "militia/gun nut" for "crack/meth dealer".)

Re:Nobody cares about civil rights or liberty anym (2, Insightful)

JanusFury (452699) | about 10 years ago | (#9593462)

Yeah, let's forbid this technology because it might compromise our privacy.

Also, let's forbid P2P file sharing because it might allow people to download music and movies and games without paying for them.

*rolls eyes*

Re:Nobody cares about civil rights or liberty anym (3, Insightful)

maximilln (654768) | about 10 years ago | (#9593464)

Typically I like to run against the government grain simply because I don't believe Big Brother is a good concept. Overhead always causes problems: greed, graft, bribes, special interests, unaccountability. Ask the Soviet Union about it. Ask Afghanistan about it. Ask Cuba about it. Heck, ask Saddam Hussein about it. I'm sure he'll gladly point out that any overhead power is a ripe field for exploitation.

So we have this ping-pong match of people who hold the government in dreamy-eyed awe and people who see only the ill uses of governmental power. Somewhere in between lies the truth. Sometimes Big Brother gets it right, sometimes Big Brother gets it for himself. The only real way to eliminate the problem is to turn Big Brother into little Brother or even microscopic Brother. That's a fine and dandy solution but Big Brother writes too many paychecks, makes too many people feel warm fuzzy and comfortable, and keeps too many bankers and politicians living a very easy luxurious life.

As for prisoner abuse that's a touchy subject. I've heard that some of the fellows who were stacked up on each other were being disciplined for attempting to start an exercise yard riot. Some of the people who were blindfolded and threatened with dogs were guilty of assaulting prison guards or officials. Certainly there are some legitimate cases of abuse but, all in all, every society has it. The Taliban had it, it happens in Paris and Amsterdam, the British _definitely_ have some neat B&D equipment, and American civilian police are caught abusing and bullying citizens all the time.

There is the hypocrisy to address. Well, crap, that's just part of life. I don't like it anymore than anyone else. The US likes to strut around the world and point fingers and meddle in affairs and tell everyone else how to run their nations when, in all reality, the US gov't isn't doing such a hot, fair, honest, or kind job within its own borders. Once again it's the Big Brother syndrome. The only way to fix it is to turn Big Brother into little Brother or even microscopic Brother. And, again, there are too many paychecks, too many leeches, too many bleeding hearts (who don't have what it takes to do something on their own but like to bleed with someone else's money), and too many comfortable and wealthy politicians, bankers, brokers, and attorneys.

So what of this "see through walls" technology? What if it is used by the local police someday to scan each and every house as they drive slowly down the block? Unless we can fix the Big Brother problem there's absolutely no sense in working yourself into a froth over the obligatory abuses that come from Big Brother.

Personally I'd like to get rid of Big Brother. I'm an advocate of small efficient government just like I'm an advocate of small efficient software. But just like Microsoft, Big Brother has a monopoly on the field and plenty of loyal (or at least contractually trapped) followers.

Don't blame the tools (5, Insightful)

Alan Cox (27532) | about 10 years ago | (#9593491)

It seems odd to me that the same people who can follow that the DMCA is problematic because it bans the tools not the abuses of the tools can't make the connection when its non-computing related.

Peering through neighbours walls (with this technology or drilling peepholes) is the offence. Would you argue that drills should be regulated because they could be used this way ?

If anything the main reason to regulate it is likely to be because long exposures to low levels of radio frequency radiation seems to do bad things to human beings so operating one might require training, care and exposure limits.

I'd also disagree its just a military tool. It has clear civilian usages including earthquake searches (because it can visualise spaces not just people so gives more info) and even boring stuff like inspecting buildings. Having had a large hole hacked in my house to see if a crack was structural I can certainly appreciate the civilian value of having tools to inspect it effectively without the mess, and the dust, and the redecorating.

saw it (4, Interesting)

reluctantengineer (557965) | about 10 years ago | (#9593219)

I saw a demo of this at FPED [] '03, I was marginally impressed. The resolution is no where near what they lead you to believe.

BIG-assed Brother (1)

flaflashr (682722) | about 10 years ago | (#9593222)

Between that and cops using Blackberries to tap into commercial databases about you (see CNN today), Big Brother isn't coming, he's already here, and he's a bad-a** m-f Jim

Interesting BUT (1)

Man in Spandex (775950) | about 10 years ago | (#9593223)

does it run li.... no I don't feel like saying it.

Seriously though, you can imagine such technology to be used, like the great CowboyNeal said, to check out houses on fire and search for victims that need to be rescued without going thru the process of searching.

Or is the reality that CowboyNeal is impressed by this technology and will use this to rule the world!!

Radarvision Camero (5, Informative)

CommanderData (782739) | about 10 years ago | (#9593224)

Note that the small Israeli company mentioned above is not Radarvison/Time Domain. Radarvision is based out of Huntsville Alabama.

The Israeli company is called Camero and the product they are developing is superior to the Radarvision product as you don't need to hold it up to a wall. It can be used up to 20 meters away from a wall, and will give more detail on the items/activity behind the wall...

Camero does not appear to have a web site, as far as I could find in my brief googling.

Re:Radarvision Camero (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9593282)

I'm waiting for the version with T-tops, myself.

Dreams!!! (1)

Spackler (223562) | about 10 years ago | (#9593227)

Dreams do come true. I'll take four of them. One for the condo, one for the store, one for work, one for the truck.

Although, if a P4 is a weapon, this thing is the bomb!

Behind walls eh? (4, Insightful)

EvilTwinSkippy (112490) | about 10 years ago | (#9593230)

Well what kind of walls? Drywall? Brick? Craypaper?

The material the wall is made out of has a marked impact on the permeability of EM waves. And the frequency you select to get through the wall may pass straight through your intended target of viewing as well.

Re:Behind walls eh? (1)

GeoGreg (631708) | about 10 years ago | (#9593314)

Note that the RadarVision website (a different company than the one mentioned in the article, but a similar product) explicitly says that their radar cannot penetrate metal or metal-coated objects. This is no surprise; I'm sure the Camero system has the same limitation. EM waves don't like electrically conductive materials. So that tinfoil hat can be applied to the wall if you don't want them snooping on you (whoever "they" are).

Brick walls (2, Informative)

artemis67 (93453) | about 10 years ago | (#9593442)

Go to the site and download the video, the demonstration is using a brick wall.

Hmmm... (1)

angst7 (62954) | about 10 years ago | (#9593232)

Prepare for a whole new style of Vouyer Dorm.


What's next, aimbots? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9593236)

I seem to remember somebody posted a comment in the railgun story asking when the army would deploy wallhacks.


Eraser (5, Funny)

Apocalypse111 (597674) | about 10 years ago | (#9593286)

Railguns + Wallhacks = those spiffy guns from Eraser [] ...

So... (1)

Punboy (737239) | about 10 years ago | (#9593240)

Does this mean that I could sit in my living room and get 3d pics of my neighbor showering? and what else will this penetrate? clothing? suitcases? While I see the uses in law enforcement and security, its use should be semi-regulated. Also, could this mean better systems than x-rays @ places like airports? Tinfoil won't work anymore :-p

New product opportunities. (1)

the_rajah (749499) | about 10 years ago | (#9593241)

Now there will be a great market for a new sort of radar detector. Not to mention that stealth wallpaper mentioned here a few days ago. Tinfoil company stocks sound like a great buy, too.

"Do the Right Thing. It will gratify some people and astound the rest." - Mark Twain

w00t (1)

Mr. Spontaneous (784926) | about 10 years ago | (#9593245)

Wow, I'll finally be able to see my "blobs" in high resolution... and color!

*pulls out wallet*

Saddam Hussein Tells The Truth: +1, Patriotic (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9593247)

Saddam Hussein tells the
the "President" George W. Bush []
lies []

Be Patriotic: Impeach George W. Bush []

Thanks and have a fun-filled weekend.

As always,
Kilgore Trout

Wow (1)

nial-in-a-box (588883) | about 10 years ago | (#9593248)

This is so much better than X-Ray vision!

Aluminium Foil (3, Insightful)

mbone (558574) | about 10 years ago | (#9593263)

Can't see through aluminium foil, if it is truly Al.

My guess is that within 10 years we will see new homes / apartments boasting of how they form Faraday cages, to prevent all kinds of remote monitoring.

In related news... (5, Funny)

stoneymonster (668767) | about 10 years ago | (#9593264)

the Department of Homeland Security advises citizens to stop using walls.

Happy Days for Football Team (1)

Juvenall (793526) | about 10 years ago | (#9593272)

Ahh, I can see it entire Junior Varsity team saving their lunch money to see into the chearleaders locker room... Now now, it's for a noble cause. You never know when evil mutant garden gnomes may attack these days...

Now all we need is... (1)

Powercntrl (458442) | about 10 years ago | (#9593276)

...a ship made of unobtainium and a laser that can vaporize rock, and the sci-fi behind "The Core" won't be such a laughing stock!

Alright (1)

Quattro Vezina (714892) | about 10 years ago | (#9593279)

Now someone just needs to invent Minovsky Particles, and we'll be set.

Re:Alright (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9593342)

For the uninformed anonymous cowards out there, can someone explain the reference so we can laugh and/or say "cool" too? Thanks.

Anonymous Coward who gets it. No really... I do.... Really....

WorldNetDaily?!?! (5, Informative)

sakusha (441986) | about 10 years ago | (#9593283)

Take this story with a huge grain of salt. WND is not a very reliable news source. It's right up there with NewsMax and Washington Times as lunatic fringe pseudojournalism.

right (was WorldNetDaily?!?! ) (2, Funny)

cascadingstylesheet (140919) | about 10 years ago | (#9593451)

Take this story with a huge grain of salt. WND is not a very reliable news source. It's right up there with NewsMax and Washington Times as lunatic fringe pseudojournalism.

Right; be sure to check with FrontLine, The Nation and Xinhua first ...

-1, Troll (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9593479)

Dude, go to the product website and see for yourself. There's even a demonstration video.

Walls... (4, Insightful)

eli173 (125690) | about 10 years ago | (#9593287)

Just as long as it lets me see where this pipe/conduit/wire goes in my wall. (And where the studs are...)

Or looky here, we've got termites in this wall.

So when does the hand-held consumer version of this come out?

Interesting (3, Interesting)

arieswind (789699) | about 10 years ago | (#9593289)

New technology is quite amazing..

I can see it being used when the military is doing raids on houses, bunkers, etc. They can see how many people are in the room and where they are, so they can come in gunning and not take so many casualties.

Another use might be that when they are searching houses for weapons and stuff, they can see into the rooms before hand.

But, like other technology of this nature, it opens limitless possiblities for abuse, so the government will have to keep a cloe eye on how it is used

Re:Interesting (1)

Lewis Daggart (539805) | about 10 years ago | (#9593376)

Or rather, we'll need to keep a close eye on how the government uses it.

Re:Interesting (1)

arieswind (789699) | about 10 years ago | (#9593467)

The sad truth, is that we really wont know how they are using it, unless they mess up and have a scandal like in Abu-Ghirab

Obligatory (1)

Have Blue (616) | about 10 years ago | (#9593307)

Two meters!

That's impossible, that's inside the damn room!

Re:Obligatory (1)

arieswind (789699) | about 10 years ago | (#9593440)

For one, it says 20 meters, which is about 65 feet, Two, 65 feet is like across the street from the house

Re:Obligatory (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9593485)

Somebody needs to catch up on his xenophobic scifi films...

If you see one of these... (1)

darin3200 (791186) | about 10 years ago | (#9593315) [] hanging around your house a lot its time to led line the walls.

I wonder... (2, Interesting)

Patris_Magnus (771993) | about 10 years ago | (#9593316)

What the radiation exposure to people on the other side of the wall would be. Operators of this type of equipment rarely understand the implications of its use. Just ask your xray tech what your equivalent whole body dose will be next time you get a chest xray.

.88 Magnum (0, Offtopic)

RatBastard (949) | about 10 years ago | (#9593320)

This is an .88 Magnum. It shoots through schools.

I hate these pseudo-tech articles. (5, Interesting)

a7244270 (592043) | about 10 years ago | (#9593323)

Its been a while since I've done any RF, but theres some things in that article that are a little bit, odd, to say the least.

Camero developed a certain kind of ultra radio wave that can be emitted to generate a high-definition image and also invented the technology that allows the enhanced wave to pass through virtually any wall.

How exactly does one develop a "certain kind of ultra wadio wave", and how does one "allow it to pass through any wall". Perhaps they have a valid technology, but the person who translated this to layman's terms should be shot for creating a document that makes it sound like the company is selling smoke and mirrors.

Actually, the part of the article that I found most interesting was Israeli security source told WND that Israel recently developed proprietary technology that can discreetly put an electronic field around a building or area that gives users the ability to monitor and control every electronic emission within that field, from electronic can openers to fax machines, computers and cell phones.

Seeing inside a room is one thing, but realistically, the potential for invasion of privacy is much larger with the wiretap field.

Like the video card driver cheats? (1)

earthforce_1 (454968) | about 10 years ago | (#9593328)

Wasn't there a video card driver hack that somebody was going to release some time back, that would allow you to see through walls?

But seriously, I can see this as being useful for hostage situations, terrorist takedowns, etc. Scan the room through the wall, ID the bad guys, and use depleted uranium rounds to penetrate the walls, and them out without hitting any hostages.

But.. (1)

Bull999999 (652264) | about 10 years ago | (#9593345)

Can it see through clothing, and will they have a version that will look like normal pair glasses? I'll only be using it for educational purposes, of course.

Wall-hacks (4, Funny)

nharmon (97591) | about 10 years ago | (#9593363)

Next thing you know, the gamers will want devices to let them see through walls.

fscking counterstrike newbs... (2, Funny)

enigmathegreat (696605) | about 10 years ago | (#9593378)


Don't forget (1)

Ira Sponsible (713467) | about 10 years ago | (#9593386)

You can use this to shoot people hiding indoors with your snazzy new Rail Gun [] ! Just don't let the Governator get his hands on this one...

Larry Niven sues (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9593392)

"Deep Radar"
Joining the ranks of all the other formerly great sci-fi writers who feel the need to call a lawyer and spout off how wonderful they are.

Ahhhh, (1)

dirvish (574948) | about 10 years ago | (#9593396)

no pictures... :(

Modern, urban warfare (2, Insightful)

El Bromo (663141) | about 10 years ago | (#9593408)

These are exactly the types of technologies that will be needed to fight the multifaceted wars the US armed forces will find itself fighting in the next two decades. Urban warfare is a mode of fighting that has haunted armies for a couple hundred years now, and not very many improvments on the weaponry front have come along to *seriously* enhance an army's capability to fight in an urban setting. Modern communications, guns that can shoot around corners, and radar that can see through walls all help, but it still behooves a small, vastly-outnumbered army to hole up in a city they don't mind seeing destroyed and make the big army root them out one building at a time.

If that big army is the US Army, it's going to put a premium on avoiding civilian casualites, and the bad guys can, will, and do exploit that doctrine. We can't just carpet-bomb the whole city, and it's very casualty-intensive to thoroughly search through urban centers looking for a handful of people.

This is a problem that will occupy the best minds in the Pentagon, in other armies, and in defense companies for the next two decades. If we can find some good answers, we can prevent unnecessary casualties all around. If we can't, we'll continue to see bloodletting every time an urban warfare situation is encountered. For now, the best doctrine is simply to avoid urban warfare at all costs, and make do when it is forced upon you.

Fortunately.... (4, Informative)

Vancouverite (227795) | about 10 years ago | (#9593418)

...there have been court decisions that would affect using this without either an 'active situation' (hostages, &c) or a court order. There was a case in Oregon where police were using passive IR monitoring to generate enough information on a potential pot growing operation inside a house. Their subsequent raid / arrest was thrown out as a violation of privacy. Somehow, I can't see *active* methods of surveillance being any less monitored.


Did I hear someone in the audience mutter "Patriot Act"?

Invasion of Privacy (1)

phishtrader (741975) | about 10 years ago | (#9593419)

Something tells me the Palestinians have more to fear than the invasion of their privacy.

Two words: (1, Informative)

Etyenne (4915) | about 10 years ago | (#9593473)

Faraday Cage []

Now, what is the wavelength of these ultra-wideband thingy ?

Can this be used for medicine? (1)

Anonymous Writer (746272) | about 10 years ago | (#9593482)

Can this technology be used like a CT scans and MRIs? If it can provide images "which reportedly resemble those produced by ultrasound" that "are relatively high-resolution", then perhaps it could be used this way.

Earthquake survivers (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9593498)

This could help locate people burried after an Earthquake, forget your conspiracy theroies. This is a good thing.
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