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China Deploys IPv9 Network

CowboyNeal posted more than 10 years ago | from the jumping-the-gun dept.

The Internet 362

jeber writes "At the New Generation Internet Ten-Digit Network Industrialization & Development Seminar held on June 25th at Zhejiang University, it was announced that China's Internet technology, IPv9, had been formally adapted and popularized into the civil and commercial sectors. Based on a ten-digit computing method, IPv9 has its own address protocol, nameplate protocol, transitional protocol, and digital domain name regulations and standards as stated by Mr. Xie Jianping, founder of the IPv9 protocol and leader of the Ten-Digit Network Technology Standard Team. Along with being compatible with IPv4 and IPv6, IPv9 can also realize logistic separations between them and safely control them. On small-scale trials in Shanghai's Changing and Jinshan Districts, IPv9 technology has proven stable and safe."

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MARY-KATE OLSEN, 1986-2004 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9599762)

R.I.P. You will be missed.

Re:MARY-KATE OLSEN, 1986-2004 (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9599910)

Truly an American icon.

Re:MARY-KATE OLSEN, 1986-2004 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9599950)

and apparently a crack-cocaine addict, not anorectic ^_^

Re:MARY-KATE OLSEN, 1986-2004 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9599998)

Were there any more details? Did you hear it on talk radio?

The details... (1)

ringbarer (545020) | more than 10 years ago | (#9600009)

Shutters click as cameras capture the publicity stills, the pictures that will be on the cover of every magazine this week. This is how the world will remember the Olsen twins: matching tight pink blouses highlighting firm, buoyant adolescent breasts, tight black jeans suggesting a level of sexual experience which the twins do not, in fact, possess.

When the pictures are complete, the twins are turned so that they stand facing one another. Their arms are held behind their backs. The bailiffs bring a pair of cuffs for each girl. The cuffs have no keyholes; they are not designed to be removed. This fact is not lost on the girls, who begin to sob helplessly as they feel sharp steel close around their slender wrists.

Twin winches hum to life, pulling the girls up onto the balls of their naked feet. They begin to strangle almost immediately. They emit tormented gurgling sounds as boiled hemp digs into their tender throats. Quivering lips strip a couple more years off their apparent age. Their increasingly desperate facial expressions confirm that the Olsen girls are in no way prepared for the sudden pain. They have led lives of comfort and pampered privilege. They have never known suffering, until now.

The winches fall quiet, their cruel work done. This is where the girls will remain: in that place where the pain is psychologically overwhelming but not physically dangerous, in that horrible place where they could, perhaps, remain forever.

Still, this is an execution. And so the girls must not remain on their toes forever. They listen carefully as the announcer explains the rules of the game. He makes it sound erotic and exciting, and that is surely how the audience sees it. But it does not sound erotic and exciting to Ashley or Mary-Kate. Indeed, it fills their hearts with an almost limitless dread.

If nothing else happens, then in one hour's time, twin trapdoors will open beneath the girls' feet. Because they are already on their toes, there's no chance that their necks will snap. They will have to dance themselves to death--a process which, the announcer explains, could take up to an hour, because the twins don't weigh very much, and because their nooses have been tied loose.

If, on the other hand, one of the girls chooses to take action, she can buy herself a quick, easy death. As the announcer speaks, bailiffs slip small cylindrical remote control units into Ashley's right hand and Mary-Kate's left. If either girl pushes her button, then her winch will lower her down onto the gallows platform, while the trapdoor drops out from under her sister's feet. She may watch in comfort, her breathing perfectly unrestricted, while her sister endures a terminal slow hang. The girl who pushed her button will then have earned a neck-snapping long drop.

The moment the announcer finishes his introduction, the twins begin to negotiate through their tears. At first they are selfless, altruistic:

"You have to drop me, Mary-Kate," Ashley whimpers. Her voice is thick and rough. The noose is tight, and it hurts to speak. "You're my baby sister. I have to take care of you. I can't bear to watch you hang!"

"Baby sister? You're two minutes older than me, Ashley! And how do you think I'd feel, if I had to watch you spend an hour strangling to death? No way! We'll die together!"

"Don't be stupid, Mary." A little anger surfaces now, through the pain, through the laborious breathing which is required to get even a few words out. "Do you know how much that'll hurt?

"Hurts now," Mary-Kate replies. She is being economical with her words, for each one costs her dearly.

"Yes. And we're still on our toes. Airdance...much worse."

"Scared," says Mary-Kate.

"Then push the button."

The girls perspire as they suffer. The thin pink cotton of their tight tops sticks to their skin; the wet fabric is slightly translucent. Naturally, they wear no bras. Their taut, pouting young breasts press up through their blouses, yearning towards the heaven they will surely soon reach. The nipples are large and unusually hard; the announcer explains that this is a normal response to controlled asphyxiation. Bailiffs approach and unbutton the twins' trousers. The zippers come down. The men peel tight black denim off of wet, slender thighs. The twins are wearing minimal satin g-strings in hot pink. This grown-up underwear looks shockingly incongruous on their pubescent bodies, and yet it is also deeply sexy. Their bellies are flawless, the tight flatness of youth enhanced by careful dieting.

In the second half hour of their ordeal, the twins become less cordial:

"Can't believe...you're so greedy, Mary. Making me watch...you dance..."

"I'm greedy? You're such a bitch...like I wanna...watch you hang..."

"Then we both get...what we most fear..."

"Shut up, Ashley!"

Towards the end, pain and panic combine to make them say some rather unkind things to one another:

"Want to dance on air, don't you? Afraid if you push the button....I'll be the big star?

"Fucking cunt, how can you say that?"

"It's true...you always want to be in the spotlight...you need to have all the glory...never enough for the both of us..."

"Shut up, you little whore! How dare you?"

"You know it's true."

"You want to die, Ashley? You want to die? Fine! Then you can die!"

Mary-Kate regrets pushing the button the moment her feet hit the deck. "Oh God I'm so sorry Ashley," she blurts, but it is far too late. Her sister's eyes grow wide with horror and disbelief as the well-oiled trapdoor swings open beneath her, sending her plunging to her doom.

Mary-Kate stands sobbing in her noose and cuffs, feeling guilty for each unrestricted breath as her sister dances. It is the most horrific spectacle she has ever witnessed. Ashley kicks like a cheerleader, the sculpted muscle of her long slender legs tensing and relaxing as she hangs. The involuntary action of her firm young thighs pulls the crotch of her g-string into her hairless virgin cunt; the g-string is so wet (with perspiration?) that her pussy is clearly outlined through the satin. Ashley has never looked so helpless, so vulnerable...and yet so beautiful. The way that her impertinent young breasts bounce as she convulses; the way that her tiny tummy undulates...there is something sexy about it, Mary-Kate has to concede.

But that realization just makes it all the worse when she has to look at Ashley's face, which quickly turns red, then grey, then blue. The tears are flowing freely, as is the drool. She was right...oh, God, she was right! It's so much more painful than a mere tiptoe hang; Mary can see that now. "I'm sorry!" she wails, again and again, knowing that her sister can't hear her, knowing that she is not, in fact, forgiven.

As predicted, Ashley goes the distance. She has the body of a sixteen year-old supermodel: tight and skinny, with plenty of endurance. Sometimes respiration is painful for her, sometimes it is agonizing. But she does continue to breathe, somehow.

Mary-Kate (and everyone else) watches attentively as the pain slowly fills Ashley's twitching, suffering body. She is so physically expressive...it's obvious now, where the pain is, how bad it is. Mary-Kate, who knows her sister's body as she knows her own (for they are, after all the same) can see it easily. The agony has spread from Ashley's desperate lungs all throughout her torso; it is in her belly now, moving down towards her pussy. Soon it will consume her.

When Ashley's motions suddenly become more vigorous, Mary-Kate knows what it means. These are her sister's death throes, which at least mean that their mutual ordeal will soon be over. But to watch her sister's ending--the vacant, lifeless eyes, the body still twitching in agony, breasts heaving, drool-covered lips quivering, hips rocking instinctively in a very suggestive way--is almost more than she can bear. Ashley is more animal than human now, and soon she won't even be that.

Ashley dies spectacularly, of course. She goes stiff, breasts thrust up and out. The death rattle tears its way out of her throat. Piss erupts into her soaked g-string as she convulses briefly and goes limp.

As promised, Mary Kate draws the long drop. But there is no end to the slender teen's misfortune, for her neck does not snap after all, and so she must dance as well. It takes her only ten minutes, for her fall did draw the hangman's knot tight, tight enough to snuff her...but it hurts tremendously. Indeed, the announcer speculates that her pain might actually be even more intense than that of her sister. Certainly Mary-Kate puts on a spectacular show, stretching her long lean legs towards the floor far below, wrapping her thighs around her miniscule g-string as her sister had done. Her braless breasts bounce freely. No way would Ashley capture all the limelight. No way. They might focus on Ashley's longer ordeal, but they would remember both deaths. Yes.

Just to make sure, Mary-Kate begins to sex it up as she suffers. Her stiff-nippled breasts bounce with such vigor that it actually hurts, but she doesn't slow down. She tightens her virginal pussy muscles, pulling the g-string in close against her hymen. She begins to rub the pink satin against her sex, making love to her panties for the benefit of the audience. The rippling muscle of her deeply toned belly speaks of youth and energy, fertile possibilities snuffed out in an instant of pure agony. Her angelic blonde halo frames a face stricken with torment. Blue cheeks spasm beneath the tears and drool. Her eyes are wide, but she is still there: she feels it all, right up to the end.

And of course, she has to stare at her sister's dangling corpse as she twists in her noose. For ten minutes of endless agony, she must live with the choice she has made. And then her bladder relaxes and she joins her sister in the next world.

first post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9599764)

first post!

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Oh yeah? (5, Funny)

BabyDave (575083) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599767)

Well I'm using IPvInfinityPlusOne, so :-P to you!

Re:Oh yeah? (1)

aled (228417) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599787)

IPvaleph1 and that's it.

key word "control" (5, Insightful)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599768)

Sounds like that would be the most important piece to the Chinese..

Re:key word "control" (5, Insightful)

MarkPNeyer (729607) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599820)

This isn't the only thing for which the chinese are trying to develop their own stadards; they hate the idea of paying royalties for formats that are accepted around the world, they just develop their own standards. I'm sure all of this isn't going to help china's transition into the being a free-market society integrated with the rest of the world.

Re:key word "control" (5, Insightful)

Czernobog (588687) | more than 10 years ago | (#9600046)

A standard is what the majority of people use. Not what they want to use. Or what they should be using. Or what some foreign institution has taken it up to themselves to declare. Or whatever power abusing government or mega-corporation enforces.
As such China's protocols are the standards, as far as they are concerned.

Re:key word "control" (0, Offtopic)

mumblestheclown (569987) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599905)

what part of "Well regulated militia" do you not understand?

Since you're such a genius literalist, how about you learn that the US Second Amendment is basically based on the VA (1776) and MA (1780) bills of rights, both of whose "right to bear arms" clauses are clearly tied to the notion of a "common defense." The VA BoR even specifically refers to those having the rights to bear arms being specially trained.

Of course, this all misses the larger picture still, which is that the framers recognized their own infallability and made provisions in the constitution for it to be a living changing document EITHER through interpretation or revision.

The constitution is not the secular equivalent of the fundamentalists literal bible handed down from on high, despite the fantasies of certain sloped forehead groups.

Re:key word "control" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9599948)

...which is that the framers recognized their own
infallability...

a) infallibility [reference.com]
b) fallibility [reference.com]
c) It's his sig, reply in his journal to keep on the submission's topic.

Re:key word "control" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9599958)

No, only revision. The Supreme Court can abuse their authority, but don't go blaming the founders for that. You better check your own forehead, pal. The constitution says I can have guns--and neither I nor the founders were particularly huge fans of the Bible.

Re:key word "control" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9599963)

And what part of "The right of the people" do you not understand? The idea here is that if the people keep arms that they will already be trained in case of needing to form such a militia for defense

Re:key word "control" (1)

f1ipf10p (676890) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599923)

Yes, perhaps Mr. Xie Jianping should have been included in or be added to the current /. poll of "Most Likely to Take Over the World"!

I had voted for Dogbert, but I would change that to Mr. Xie Jianping...

Re:key word "control" (1)

smallfries (601545) | more than 10 years ago | (#9600128)

Err, the server's down. Does anyone know what 10-digit computation or logisitic separations? I'm used to people spouting crap on /. but normally that's in the comments after the summary, not in it.

Wow! (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9599774)

Just think of all the additional free-thought-squelching capacity China has now!

Re:Wow! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9599786)

Yeah, the Bush administration must be absolutely green with envy!

Bush admin is green with money (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9599893)

It was the Clinton administration that cozied up to the Communist Chinese - that's one thing at least no one can accuse Bush of doing.

Re:Bush admin is green with money (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9599916)

True, Republicans typically get cozy with oilrich wackjob Arab states like Saudi Arabia, or fueling cash into the Taliban's pockets (until 9/11, but who can blame that idiot for knowing any better?).

Re:Bush admin is green with money (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9600099)

Uh, I was referring to the Bush administration being envious of China's ability to squelch the free thought of its populace.

Tell me, did you feel the breeze when my joke went by just over your head like that?

Welcome China (4, Funny)

lpret (570480) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599777)

We welcome our new Chinese overlords. The beer is in the fridge.

Read this: So far, China is the only country in the world that has consolidated domain names, IP addresses and MAC addresses into ten-digit text files. China and the United States are currently the only two countries that possess root domain name analysis servers, IP address servers, independent domain names, IP addresses and MAC address sources.

ECFA COMPLETES TAKEOVER OF GNAA (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9599779)

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Re:ECFA COMPLETES TAKEOVER OF GNAA (-1, Flamebait)

brendan_orr (648182) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599833)

"...a hostile takeover of the GNAA (G** N***** Association of America)."
Goo Nubins?

Standards? (4, Interesting)

kai5263499 (751741) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599780)

Does anyone have a link to an RFC detailing the IPv9 standard? Or did China just decide that they needed that much more addressing space and create thatir own standard?

RFC (5, Informative)

Simon (S2) (600188) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599785)

here [spectrum-w...search.com]

Re:RFC (4, Interesting)

Zarhan (415465) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599815)

This is the old April fools joke, yes, but I have to ask if this is some sort of new thing. Doing a Google search for IPv9 returns bunch of IETF mailing list postings talking about that joke, and then loads of chinese pages. Is the article a new and improved version of the joke or something that really exists?

Re:RFC (5, Funny)

bitflip (49188) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599969)

My tongue in cheek theory: The Chinese didn't know it was a joke, and rushed to implement it.

Re:RFC (1)

rsidd (6328) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599989)

My tongue in cheek theory: The Chinese didn't know it was a joke, and rushed to implement it.

Could be: they have had trouble [mit.edu] understanding American jokes in the past.

Re:RFC (2, Interesting)

kasperd (592156) | more than 10 years ago | (#9600123)

It wouldn't be the first time somebody implemented [linux.no] an April fools [sunsite.dk] RFC.

Re:Standards? (0, Redundant)

jea6 (117959) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599798)

There is a 1994 RFC here: http://rfc.net/rfc1606.html [rfc.net] . Everything else Google came up with was in Chinese and, thus, just as unusable!

Re:Standards? (1)

aled (228417) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599821)

1300000000 Chinese people may disagree.

Re:Standards? (3, Informative)

Fnkmaster (89084) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599983)

Try this one: RFC 1347 [faqs.org] . IPv9 is another name for the TUBA protocol (see here [iana.org] ), which was apparently a competing proposal of IPv6 for big-number addressing with TCP and UDP that has never been put into broad use. Some people seem to think it's superior to IPv6 in some ways, but I was under the impression that it's largely deprecated at this point. Obviously some people are still using it - perhaps they are using it as an interim solution until they can transition to IPv6 (when everyone else does - which will be a cold day in hell).

So... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9599782)

Does that mean those spamming chinks are off of our internet?

Re:So... (1, Offtopic)

xYoni69x (652510) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599843)

Does that mean those spamming chinks are off of our internet?

Phrased as flamebait, but a good question. A large percentage of the spam comes from China. Certain spam filters, such as SpamPal, have options to reject all mail coming from China, Taiwan, Korea, Russia, and similarly spammy countries.

IPv9 (5, Funny)

Amiga Lover (708890) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599788)

IPV9, for when being able to individually address every single particle in the entire universe just isn't enough.

Re:IPv9 (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9599861)

IPV9, for when being able to individually address every single particle in the entire universe just isn't enough.

At some point in the future we might need to address the particles that are currently swapped out.

Re:IPv9 (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9599939)

Or maybe they expect to address particles in other universes and/or alternate timelines...

IPV4-IPV6-IPV9-??? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9599801)

As everyone knows, a standard IPV4 engine has enough power for a small sedan. IPV6 adds cylinders to add extra power for sportier performance. And now, IPV9 improves incrementally on IPV8 by adding an extra cylinder hanging off the side.

Of course, I'll beat them all when I announce my patented IPV12 (tm).

Re:IPV4-IPV6-IPV9-??? (1)

DerPflanz (525793) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599849)

That would be IPv13 ...

Welcome to last week (4, Funny)

iamdrscience (541136) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599809)

My computer is setup to use both IPv4 and IPv6, that makes IPv10! One bigger than IPv9! Eat that, China!

Re:Welcome to last week (2, Interesting)

Zarhan (415465) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599845)

My computer is setup to use both IPv4 and IPv6, that makes IPv10! One bigger than IPv9! Eat that, China!

While YOU are making this as a joke, I have a personal anecdote that really made my skin crawl. My (telco) company execs routinely used a term "11.5G", referring to "11.5 generation network", meaning 2G (GSM) + 2,5G (GPRS) + 3G (UMTS/WCDMA) + 4G (WiFi) concurrently.

Luckily, that buzzword was later changed to something about seamless mobility or something, basically just meaning that a terminal can roam between different radio network technologies. But for crying out loud, they really thought that this BIG number shows us being years ahead or something..

And what about IPv7 ? (3, Interesting)

dougmc (70836) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599814)

My first instinct was to check the calender ... nope, not April 1st ...

Which department is this from? The jumping-the-gun dept ... no clues there that this is a joke.

Then I looked at my keyboard. The 9 key is right above the 6 key. One could easily mean to type IPv6 and accidently type IPv9. Could that explain it? Of course, that wouldn't explain why somebody would say this is is compatible with both IPv4 and IPv6 ...

I can't read the article itself, since it seems to have fallen under the /. effect. So I guess I just won't know if 1) this is a joke, 2) a typo, or 3) China doing something different from the rest of the world just because they can. It's usually #3, so that's my guess.

Re:And what about IPv7 ? (0, Redundant)

mikem170 (698970) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599863)

And of course the one link in the article is slashdotted...

Re:And what about IPv7 ? (3, Funny)

Chess_the_cat (653159) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599868)

The 9 key is only above the 6 key if you don't know how to type properly. The numeric keypad is for data entry only sir. Thank you.

Re:And what about IPv7 ? (0, Troll)

gumpish (682245) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599921)

Please shut up, okthxbye.

I see how this works (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9599817)

1. Examine existing American IPV4 system, create a modified version to facilitate snooping^H^H^H^H^H^H virus protection.

2. ???

3. Profit!

Re:I see how this works (1)

HungSquirrel (790165) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599920)

That episode OWNS.

A good thing for Spam (5, Funny)

BWindle (54348) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599818)

This is a good thing for spam. Just wait until all of China is using IPv9, then figure out a way to drop any packets that have passed thru IPv9 routers; suddenly no more Chinese packets, and no more spam.

Re:A good thing for Spam (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9599862)

Yes because it's so hard to drop chinese packets now.

April fools joke? (5, Interesting)

bollow (a) NoLockIn (785367) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599824)

The article is full of nonsense words, so apart for the July date I'd suspect an april fool's joke.

Googling for IP V9 reveals an april fool's joke from 1994:

RFC 1606 [faqs.org]
RFC 1607 [faqs.org]

Re:April fools joke? (1)

Siva (6132) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599859)

yeah...those RFC's are from 1994, and the article does say "After ten years of research and development..."

Re:April fools joke? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9599887)

The July date is easily explained by one simple fact:

The Chinese do not celebrate April Fools.

Sounds like someone over there took those RFCs seriously!

Re:April fools joke? (4, Informative)

OverlordQ (264228) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599944)

Actually IPv9 is TUBA [iana.org] . Which is described in RFC1347 [faqs.org] .

Re:April fools joke? (4, Informative)

Fnkmaster (89084) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599951)

I thought the same when I first read the summary, it's filled with meaningless goop-words. But "China IPV9" does return other hits in Google that lead me to believe this is at least semi-legitimate. See this company [dataguard.com.tw] , or this powerpoint presentation [mwd.com.mm] . Apparently "IPv9", in addition to being used in those April 1st RFCs actually refers to something called TUBA (TCP and UDP with Bigger Addresses), an alternative "big number" addressing protocol to IPv6 that is described in RFC 1347 (see this post [netsys.com] for example).


The original RFC is here [faqs.org] .

Ten Digit Computing (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9599829)

I have two Ten Digit computers--the first one I call a "digital" computer, and the second one is currently in my shoes and socks.

Works great unless I want to count higher than 10, in which case I have to "network" the two computers so I can count to 20.

What do you do to count to 21? (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9599888)

Drop your pants?

Re:Ten Digit Computing (3, Funny)

hugesmile (587771) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599959)

I have two Ten Digit computers--the first one I call a "digital" computer

Imagine my disappointment when I found out that my "Digital Prostate Exam" didn't mean that it was computerized.

What a pain in the a$$.

Re:Ten Digit Computing (1)

Mudcathi (584851) | more than 10 years ago | (#9600096)

Imagine my disappointment when I found out that my "Digital Prostate Exam" didn't mean that it was computerized.

Yeah, but at least now the whole world knows that you're "open source."

(Unless you're "open sores" - which would be way too much information!)

End (0)

ThisNukes4u (752508) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599834)

This is but the beginning of the end.

Obligatory Great Firewall of China reference (3, Insightful)

panurge (573432) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599848)

In a way this could be a Good Thing for the rest of us. The longer the Chinese Government tries to keep out the round eye foreign devils outside the Wall, and protect its people from harmful influences (like democracy) and from questioning why party officials have Ferraris and peasants are still allowed to pull plows by hand, the longer it will be before the Chinese Empire takes over from the US Empire. If you think the Bush attitude to global warming, pollution and the rights of the citizen is backward, it's probably better for your blood pressure not to ask about China.

Last week there was a large pro-democracy rally in Hong Kong, which was (shamefully) handed over to the Chinese by the British in 1997, in circumstances that were never envisaged in the original treaty. The British built Hong Kong into a capitalist economy, educated the Chinese and taught them all about Western systems of government, and then said "Well, forget all that stuff about the Rights of Man and government by the people, we're handing you over to the 800lb gorilla who thinks Genghis Khan was an enlightened ruler." The people of Hong Kong seem, so some reason, to think this was a retrograde step. I guess the Chinese Government doesn't want that sort of thing happening in Shanghai or Beijing, and turning their back on the rest of the world may look like a good way to maintain the status quo.

Re:Obligatory Great Firewall of China reference (2, Informative)

gilroy (155262) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599872)

Blockquoth the poster:

I guess the Chinese Government doesn't want that sort of thing happening in Shanghai or Beijing, and turning their back on the rest of the world may look like a good way to maintain the status quo.

Well, they've done it before. Remember that the Portugese sailing east bumped into Chinese traders working their way westward ... then the emperor died and the fleets were burned.

Re:Obligatory Great Firewall of China reference (4, Informative)

BWS (104239) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599896)

You're right, but there is confusion between "Hong Kong" and "Hong Kong the Island" and that's where you're getting stuck. "Hong Kong the Island" was permantly given to the British and the origional treaty never had any stipulations about return to China. But what you don't mention and is the important thing is "Kwoloon". Kwoloon is a penisula (sp?) which is part of China given to the British after the Boxer Rebellion in 1898 for 99 years.

When people refer to "Hong Kong" now they refer to "Hong Kong Island", "Kwoloon", and a bunch of much smaller island. The vast majority of the population live in "Hong Kong Island" and "Kwoloon", with less then 5% living in the smaller island.

By treaty stipulations, again which China still claims were forced upon them, Kwoloon was to be returned to China in 1997. If the British just return "Kwoloon" as by treaty and kept "Hong Kong Island", it would be totaly redilicious. It would be like diving London into two pieces and saying this half now belong to France and you need a visa to cross between them.

Re:Obligatory Great Firewall of China reference (1)

BWS (104239) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599922)

that's divding London int two pieces...

Re:Obligatory Great Firewall of China reference (1)

kundor (757951) | more than 10 years ago | (#9600036)

It might be totally ridiculous, but it's been done many times before (Jerusalem, for example.) If what you say is true, perhaps the british have learned something from their previous escapades.

Re:Obligatory Great Firewall of China reference (2, Insightful)

xstein (578798) | more than 10 years ago | (#9600047)

Highly informative post. While hoping not to stray too far off topic, just wanted to add a little bit. While the British lease on "Hong Kong" (like you said, Kowloon, in particular all that was north of the Yau Ma Tei/Prince Edward area) was set to expire, the British wanted to keep the land permanently, but were faced by strong Chinese opposition, who essentially said they would build another Berlin wall dividing their land and Hong Kong Island, which would severely cripple the regions infrastructure, and essentially ruin the lives of all those living in Hong Kong. The British gave China their land to prevent this from happening, for the sake of all those living in Hong Kong, and to allow Hong Kong to remain on its track to prosperity as a port and hub to greater China. They did so, however, under a compromise that would force China to promise Hong Kong Basic Law and Hong Kong's free market economy would remain unharmed for 50 years. July 1st, the anniversary of Hong Kong's handover to the Chinese, draws citywide protests, which the Chinese have cleverly embraced and encouraged residents to do the same, as a celebration of national pride, unity, and patriotism.

Re:Obligatory Great Firewall of China Reference (4, Insightful)

wan-fu (746576) | more than 10 years ago | (#9600051)

Let's remove some of that misinformation, shall we?

First of all, things are not as easy as they seem. Maybe you think it is easy to distribute the wealth in China to all its people, but think about the logistics of it. China has a landmass comparable to the US with over 1.3 billion citizens. Getting the wealth from the coast to the inland areas is not easily feasible and it is one of the major economic reforms China is trying right now. In fact, the government attempts more and more to encourage development inland.

Party officials certainly do not "drive Ferraris." Yes, some party officials are better off than the people, but that's case even in the US. The salaries that the politicians make in the US put them into the upper-middle class.

If you think the Bush attitude to global warming, pollution and the rights of the citizen is backward, it's probably better for your blood pressure not to ask about China.
China actually does care about the environment. For example, during all years of schooling, children are required to learn about environmental issues in ways ranging from lectures to taking care of plants. Yes, citizens' rights is a concern, however, refer to a comment I have posted previously, It's 2004 People [slashdot.org] .

Last week there was a large pro-democracy rally in Hong Kong, which was (shamefully) handed over to the Chinese by the British in 1997, in circumstances that were never envisaged in the original treaty.
It was certainly not "shamefully" handed back to the Chinese. First, HK was rightfully part of China until the British took it by force and trickery. Instead of assuming the eurocentric viewpoint (you seem to imply a preference of Western education and government), let's examine the history: The opium wars... where the British addicted millions of Chinese to opium and then used force to get better trade negotiations and Hong Kong. It's not a shame that HK was returned to its rightful owner. Hong Kong is still a major economic center in Asia today under China's rule.

The British built Hong Kong into a capitalist economy, educated the Chinese and taught them all about Western systems of government
I disagree. Regardless of who ruled Hong Kong, it would have turned into a great economic force. It is one of the most important ports in Asia and it cannot be ignored.

we're handing you over to the 800lb gorilla who thinks Genghis Khan was an enlightened ruler
You want to cite your sources on this one? Genghis Khan ruled China by force, no one liked him, and he was overthrown by the Chinese because they hated him (Yuan dynasty, one of the only non-Han dynasties). That's hardly the kind of action the people would show for "an enlightened ruler."

I'm not criticizing you in particular, there are a lot of posts similar to yours on /. in general. Yours happened to have a bunch of the topics I wanted to address. I'm not saying China is the greatest place to live either, but let's give it some credit.

Article shows lack of education of the globe. (5, Funny)

node 3 (115640) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599874)

It's plain to see that the article submitter, who is undoubtedly an American, didn't take into account that China is on the other side of the planet and that the "9" in the article, when viewed right-side up is actually a "6", and that the correct story is that China has switched over to IPv6.

I chalk this up as a clear and abject failure of our education system.

stupid (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9599877)

So any Chinese news will make you high? You are just a bunch of ignorant, you only heard one side story about China in your whole life, and you think you are smart when you jump out and point finger to China....

There are enough reason for China to find new ways to get new IP addresses. In US you can buy one IP address for $1/month, in China you cannot because IP addresses are controled by US.

MOD DOWN, WRONG! (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9599935)

The US does NOT control addresses for China. APNic [apnic.net] would be the reponsible body. Its not even located in the USA!

Stupid.

Interesting link (1)

Xshare (762241) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599879)

http://www.tianyigroup.com/zz-e/zz-e.htm [tianyigroup.com]
"IPv9 Datagram Head Protocol" standard of electronic industrybe carrying through "IPv9 Address Protocol"standard of electronic industrybe carrying through
ALSO (though it has been mentioned before), a humor article from 1994 regarding IPv9:
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1606.html [faqs.org]

we can never have enough (4, Insightful)

t_allardyce (48447) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599883)

It might seem like overkill but the old adage "if you build it they will come" applies here. The more your addressing system can support, the more people will start using it for more and more pointless things - everything will have its own ip, rfid manufactureres will give their tags ip's because they can, cars will get their own all phones will, packages will - just so you can type the ip to track it (and once its delivered the ip will point to that card-board box forever) we're already talking about toasters with addresses its just going to get more and more complicated and the reasons for giving addresses will be more and more pointless (a toaster could easily survive on a subnet) the best solution is a system that can work with addresses of any length (bangs head on table) but people will still demand that their grains of sand have a 50 byte address, just be grateful for exponentials!

Re:we can never have enough (2, Funny)

xiando (770382) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599927)

You can never get enough. I've got a tiny /48 IPv6 prefix, that's 1,208,925,819,614,629,174,706,176 IPs, and I WANT MORE.

IPv9 and Linux (5, Funny)

veg (76076) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599898)

Why has it taken the world so long to take IPv9 seriously ?
It's the only protocol that has in-built, native support for RFC2549 [faqs.org] and, more importantly RFC527 [faqs.org] .

Linus Torvalds has already announced that 2.7 will have kernel-level support for RFC2549, but maybe now the kernel developers will go the whole hog and adopt IPv9 ?

Re:IPv9 and Linux (1)

bferrell (253291) | more than 10 years ago | (#9600080)

I suspect that in many cities the drivers for RFC2549 will be declared a public nuisance... And who's going to clean up the mess?!?!!

Article text (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9599901)

China's New Generation Of Ipv9 Network Technology Ready
July 2, 2004

At the New Generation Internet Ten-Digit Network Industrialization & Development Seminar held on June 25th at Zhejiang University, it was announced that China's Internet technology, IPv9, had been formally adapted and popularized into the civil and commercial sectors.

After ten years of research and development, IPv9 will be used on projects with the National Safety Defense System, National Digital TV Network, IPv9 network experimental programs and many other organizations.

Based on a ten-digit computing method, IPv9 has its own address protocol, nameplate protocol, transitional protocol, and digital domain name regulations and standards as stated by Mr. Xie Jianping, founder of the IPv9 protocol and leader of the Ten-Digit Network Technology Standard Team. Along with being compatible with IPv4 and IPv6, IPv9 can also realize logistic separations between them and safely control them. On small-scale trials in Shanghai's Changing and Jinshan Districts, IPv9 technology has proven stable and safe.

IPv9 consists of three sets of root domain name servers and two sets of hard-connect servers. The two sets of domain name parsing servers each have a parsing capacity of three million users and fifty percent simultaneously. Digital domain name parsing servers, English domain name parsing servers, Chinese domain name parsing servers, IP address primal allotment server, DHCP server, IPv4/IPv9 duel-used 1000M routers, 1000M channel router, IPv4/IPv9 address switching server, crystal circuit transmitter and crystal circuit light routers have been applied to IPv9 protocol demonstrative projects.

So far, China is the only country in the world that has consolidated domain names, IP addresses and MAC addresses into ten-digit text files. China and the United States are currently the only two countries that possess root domain name analysis servers, IP address servers, independent domain names, IP addresses and MAC address sources. Shanghai Jiuyao Digital Network Co., Ltd has been established to popularize the IPv9 technology. The company will work with telecom operators such as China Telecom, China Unicom, China Mobile and China Netcom to better publicize the IPv9 technology.

Like IPv6 isn't good enough (5, Informative)

xiando (770382) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599902)

There is a total of 2^128, or 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,45 6 unique IPv6 adresses. [linuxreviews.org]

Isn't this enough?

Re:Like IPv6 isn't good enough (1)

HungSquirrel (790165) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599936)

Egg-friggin'-zactly.

Re:Like IPv6 isn't good enough (1)

Prowl (554277) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599956)

but don't forget the chinese will be first to colonise the moon, so they'll need both lunar and terran ip numbers.

we ought to introduce some new tlds as well. i propose .moon, .earth, .mars

Re:Like IPv6 isn't good enough (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9600069)

No, they need it because every IP-equipped device will be fitted with its own IP-based filter and counter-revolutionary thought monitor, automatically doubling the number of IPs required.

Re:Like IPv6 isn't good enough (1)

Heidistein (593051) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599967)

No.

Re:Like IPv6 isn't good enough (4, Insightful)

hugesmile (587771) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599999)

The concern isn't the quantity of available unique addresses - the issue is that the address space must rapidly get divided up for assignment.

If the addresses were going to be assigned serially (ok, who wants IP address # 000000001?, ok 0000000002...) then you never run out.

But if you slice the 128 bits in half immediately, as a way to divide them up among companies, and then the companies subnet them, and the 128 bits keep getting whittled down, then you start crowding the address space. Yes, 2^128 is PLENTY, but the problem will be the 2^100- sized gaps between various assigned numbers.

To answer your question, "isn't this enough?", it's plenty for the short term, if managed properly. Hard to say about the long term, and hard to say about the "proper management". YOu have to weigh the costs of having a bigger address space, and ask "is the benefit worth the cost" (The benefits being the ability to poorly manage the number assignments, and the potential longevity of the protocol).

Just my opinion.

Re:Like IPv6 isn't good enough (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9600062)

Let's just give everyone(aprox 10 billion or so) 1 trillion personal adresses. I don't know though, that would only leave 340,282,366,920,938,453,463,374,607,431,768,211,45 6 for everything else.

Re:Like IPv6 isn't good enough (1)

piffy (52937) | more than 10 years ago | (#9600011)

God, I'm glad we got that number out in the open, because that "review" is the worst written thing I have ever read. If I have to go back and re-read whole sections because each sentence in a paragrah has some kind of twisting grammatical errors, then I say screw it.

mod 30wn (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9599908)

it will be am0ng [goat.cx]

My IP protocol goes to *11* (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9599919)

And that's two better than all you blokes using IPv9!

Re:My IP protocol goes to *11* (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9600018)

But...why don't you just have it go to 10 and make 10 be louder?

sounds like (2, Insightful)

mpost4 (115369) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599933)

sounds like china want to just have this so they can have better control over what they can filter out of the net to keep thier population from seeing.

China needs to control technology (4, Interesting)

Cycnus (162186) | more than 10 years ago | (#9599953)

China is currently doing all it can to "re-invent" everything that carries information.
There are reasons for this:
- Chinese are very nationalisitc by definition (in chinese, China (Zhong Guo) mean the "Kindgom of the middle", they really thought -and still do to a certain extent- that China is the center of the world) and they are proud to "re-invent" or "re-conquer" to make it their own.
- they do not want to license foreign Intellectual Property, so they develop their own video format for instance, for both pride and economic reasons as well.
- The Chinese government think it needs to control information.
I believe that the latest is probably behind the move to IPv9.
By encouraging non-standard protocols, they ensure that the equipment has more chance to be manufactured in China, and they have more ways to control the information passing through it.
China recognizes the importance of the Internet and know it is essential to its progress, yet they also realize that it is the most dangerous way to propagate those "subversive" ideas like democracy and freedom of speech. So the best thing to do is probably to "embrace and extend"...
Now, where have I heard that before...?

Re:China needs to control technology (1)

aled (228417) | more than 10 years ago | (#9600034)

China (Zhong Guo) mean the "Kindgom of the middle"
Like Mediterranean? be serious.

Re:China needs to control technology (1)

kundor (757951) | more than 10 years ago | (#9600049)

wth? Have you never heard of "The Middle Kingdom"? That's what China is known as...

And "Mediterranean" means "Surrounded by land," not middle kingdom.

Re:China needs to control technology (2, Informative)

aled (228417) | more than 10 years ago | (#9600118)

mediterranean

\Med`i*ter*ra"ne*an\, a. [L. mediterraneus; medius middle + terra land. See Mid, and Terrace.] 1. Inclosed, or nearly inclosed, with land; as, the Mediterranean Sea, between Europe and Africa.

Middle Land is close to me. Every people believes they are the center of the universe and/or the choosen people and the others are strange barbarians.

Re:China needs to control technology (2, Informative)

Dun Malg (230075) | more than 10 years ago | (#9600089)

China (Zhong Guo) mean the "Kindgom of the middle"

Like Mediterranean?

No, "mediterranean" means "in the middle of the land". It's meant to describe the Mediterranean Sea, which (apart from a small gap a Gibraltar) is surrounded on all sides by land; contrast with the Atlantic Ocean which (as far as people at the time knew) was essentially unbounded.

be serious.

He is being serious. It does translate to "kingdom of the middle", which in chinese essentially means "that around which all else revolves".

China (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9600000)

is suffering from a lack of vaginas!
Only 400 labia for every 240 or so testicles!
But I love yellow labia!
Make more China, and hurry!

I want one... (0, Redundant)

Griim (8798) | more than 10 years ago | (#9600005)

...that goes to eleven!

Where can you go from 9? I want one that's at least one louder.

Standards are great... (1)

Komi (89040) | more than 10 years ago | (#9600038)

we've all got one!

New DPS system (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9600054)

I'm sure it'll have support for a Domain Pictograph Server system, to translate chinese calligraphy into IPv9 numeric addresses.

All that for censorship? (1, Redundant)

gweihir (88907) | more than 10 years ago | (#9600097)

The only reason I can see is that the chinese
want to make the computers available to their population incompatible with the rest of the world on the Internet. Then they can filter/look into/controll al traffic at the gateways.

For the masses this may actually work. Competent indiciduals will still get through, but it weill require some effort.

Damn it! (2, Funny)

per11 (650595) | more than 10 years ago | (#9600119)

I just finished upgrading my network to IPv5.
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