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Eye Transplant Enables Blind Boy to See

timothy posted more than 10 years ago | from the wondrous-times dept.

Biotech 309

Chris Gondek points to this story carried by the Sydney Morning Herald, excerpting: "A one-year-old Pakistani boy saw the world for the first time yesterday through an eye donated by an Indian. Mohammed Ahmed gained partial vision after a difficult operation at the Agarwal Eye Institute in the southern city of Madras. Doctors said Ahmed, who was born blind, would get near-normal sight by the time he heads back to Karachi next week."

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Careful... (5, Informative)

BWJones (18351) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611409)

The title is very misleading and is born of sloppy reporting. The whole eye was NOT transplanted, rather the cornea was what was transplanted. The cornea had adhered to the boys iris clouding his vision. Technically and surgically, this is nothing of note as corneal replacements have been happening now for years and years. Politically however stuff like this is good for Indian Pakistani relations.

The title suggests that the whole eye was transplanted which would indeed be very exciting as I myself work in vision rescue focusing on diseases that cause blindness through degeneration of the retina. However, the concept of rescuing vision once we have lost it due to trauma to the retina or degenerative diseases is much more difficult than simply replacing the tissue with a healthy donor tissue. We are working with a number of folks on bionic and biological therapies and replacements for retinal vision loss, but it is a challenging prospect despite what some commercial organizations would have the media believe.

In addition to the above mentioned corrections, there are other problems with this story. In particular, apparently the child was born blind from birth which would suggest that depending upon how old the child is, there will be problems due to vision being occluded during certain critical periods of vision pathway development. This means that there may be no vision in the eye that was clouded anyway, or that vision may not be fully "normal" and likely will never be.

(yes, I am a vision scientist)

Re:Careful... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9611426)

yes, I am a vision scientist

And now you are a /. poster with additional karma. Voila!

Re:Careful... (2, Interesting)

ofdm (748594) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611437)

depending upon how old the child is
From the herald article (first line), the child is one year old. So what are the chances given that age? (I recall from a friend doing a PhD torturing kittens that early visual development is critical, and one year sounds maybe a little late to start).

Re:Careful... (1)

bheer (633842) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611873)

...I recall from a friend doing a PhD torturing kittens...

Gee, I bet neighborhood bullies and `disturbed kids' everywhere would give an arm and a leg to get to the university offering that course.

Re:Careful... (4, Interesting)

selderrr (523988) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611450)

Nice to hear an expert once on /.

What do you think are the chances of ever seeing a complete eye transplant ? In 10 years ? 50 ? 100 ? Or maybe never at all ?

Re:Careful... (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9611477)

What do you think are the chances of ever seeing a complete eye transplant ? In 10 years ? 50 ? 100 ? Or maybe never at all ?

But I saw them do it in Minority Report, so it must already be possible!

Re:Careful... (5, Interesting)

BWJones (18351) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611507)

What do you think are the chances of ever seeing a complete eye transplant ? In 10 years ? 50 ? 100 ? Or maybe never at all ?

I've thought about this a lot. There is some very promising research in the neuromuscular community that suggests that spinal motor neurons can rewire rather successfully. The problem is that the retina (and the "wires" (axons) that come off of it is a very complicated tissue and rewiring them might be too much to attempt even if you could 1) get the retinal neurons to survive and 2) get them to rewire properly and perform the precise pathfinding necessary. Immunological considerations are another issue, so the approaches I am interested in a other biological and possibly bionic approaches.

Re:Careful... (5, Informative)

OkiWanKenobi (688609) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611547)

we are talking about rewiring about 1000000 nerves in a very tight bundle, each of which has a pair and is part of a patway binding your eyes with your brain, regardeless of your approach, i would be surprised if a complete and totally successful eye transplantation happens within the next 100 years, it is the 2. most complicated operation possible, comming behind brain tranplantation...

True...Need more Funding. (4, Insightful)

Famatra (669740) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611780)

Stem cells seem to know what to wire though. Putting stem cells near kidney cells turns them into kidney cells. The cells themselves must have known how to wire it in the first place (since we can see).

I think much more money should be spent in this kind of research. Immortality is just around the corner if successful brain transplants can take place. As well people inprisoned in quadriplegic bodies can be helped by this research along with many others with similiar neuron/motor neuron problems.

Re:Careful... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9611789)

My mom is an ocular surgeon, and she always says that eye transplants should be quite easy to do, as long as you transplant the brain too. I assume it's a pretty good pointer to the difficulty level.

Re:Careful... (5, Interesting)

Polkyb (732262) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611555)

Would re-wiring the nerves properly be THAT important in allowing the eye to send information to the Brain?

The brain has astounded scientists in it's ability to reconfigure itself so as to perform the same tasks, but using a different region

For example, I remember a story about a boy who had a hemisperectomy. Doctors expected him to wake up paralysed down one side of his body, but, when he did wake up, he could do everything he could before. Which, IMO, amazing.

Re:Careful... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9611455)

Thanks for the clarification.

The implications would have been staggering if they had been able to transplant an entire eye - a "BladeRunner" level of futuristic technology. "I made your eyes", etc.

It would presumably also be relatively easy to graft an artificial electronic "eye", to create vision enhanced cyborgs - or to plug a video feed straight into the optic nerve for the ultimate in immersive graphics.

Re:Careful... (5, Interesting)

BWJones (18351) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611485)

The implications would have been staggering if they had been able to transplant an entire eye

Thus my interest.

a "BladeRunner" level of futuristic technology. "I made your eyes", etc

I am working on it.... Seriously.....

It would presumably also be relatively easy to graft an artificial electronic "eye", to create vision enhanced cyborgs - or to plug a video feed straight into the optic nerve for the ultimate in immersive graphics.

There are folks that are working on these solutions as well. One guy has a good approach while the others are basing their solutions on flawed assumptions of the basic biology. We are working on correcting these flawed assumptions.

Re:Careful... (2, Interesting)

Quirk (36086) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611537)

Isn't the issue better viewed in regard to your statement: "depending upon how old the child is, there will be problems due to vision being occluded during certain critical periods of vision pathway development."

My limited understanding as a lay person is that vision is dependent upon unimpeded development during a critical period at a very young age.

Re:Careful... (2, Interesting)

anubi (640541) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611637)

BW:

You are hinting that it looks feasable to you for constructing interfaces to take a high-speed binary serial stream, using some sort of implantable serial to parallel converter, to generate a video signal which would be like that on the optic nerve and recognizible by the brain as video?

Bridging the gap between binary electronics and and the neurological networks of life has got to be the biggest "hack" of all time.

Although I feel I understand the former extremely intimately, I am absolutely in the cold about the data formats, even to the physical layer, in the latter. About the closest I can come to is its some sort of frequency modulated 70 millivolt pulses mimicing synaptic firings. But there are so many parallel channels! And I would take a very strong guess that a lot of information is located in relative timing of the firings.

Has your involvement in the neurological end of things given you any good leads on hacking the biological end of the interface?

I envy you guys.. as you are on the edge of unknown. The Frontier.

Re:Careful... (1)

dosius (230542) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611643)

Improving vision is something that interests me, as my left eye doesn't focus properly. I wonder if a variation of this could improve on that kind of a "lazy eye" (I think it's a genetic defect)

Moll.

there goes biometric identification (3, Funny)

RMH101 (636144) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611662)

move along now

BR (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9611674)

You know, it'd be really cool if you and some of your vision scientist buddies set up a lab like Chew's "EyeWorld" in Blade Runner. Come on wouldn't that be your wet dream?

Re:Careful... (1)

Thaidog (235587) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611860)

There is already a solution for macular degeneration where a small digital camera is placed in the center of the retina and a feed from it is attached to the nerve... and it works.


This in my opinion is another case of technology being present... but humanity not ready for it... both the people needing it and the poeple making it.

Re:Careful... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9611586)

Would that make part of the boy an infidel?

Re:Careful... (5, Informative)

DrScott (4365) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611593)

I agree. The title is completely misleading. There are one million retinal ganglion cell axons in the optic nerve that would be sectioned and need reconnection in an eye transplant, not to mention the reconnection of the short and long ciliary nerves to innervate the ciliary muscles, etc. Even with recent advances in nerve growth factor and other neuropeptides, this is still beyond current science and more in the realm of science fiction.

(another vision scientist)

Re:Careful... (1, Funny)

Saven Marek (739395) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611622)

I find this a wonderful use of technology where once a child would be born blind and never know the light of day or the site of a loved one never see the sky or joy of reading or seeing happiness in other peoples faces

Thanks to these indian doctor's now he can see porn instead!

All Anime Galleries [sharkfire.net]

You're right (1)

bigsexyjoe (581721) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611722)

Although as I understand it, they try to give people transplants from people of a similar age. When this boy is fifty he'll have 99 year old corneas and will probably need another transplant.

An "Ask Slashdot" for the vision scientist(s) (4, Interesting)

The Famous Brett Wat (12688) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611833)

In Cringely's latest "pulpit" column [pbs.org] , he talks about a video compression technology which uses one aspect of human vision physiology -- namely losses in the path from retina to brain via optic nerve -- to compress video. Apparently the bandwidth of the optic nerve isn't all that high, and not all the data available at the retina is transmitted to the brain. The brain makes up for this by filling in the gaps. I'm rather interested in this from a philosophical standpoint, having touched upon philosophy of colour recently. Is it true that much of what we perceive visually is imagery generated by the brain rather than directly produced in us by external stimuli?

One year old? (4, Interesting)

grondin (241140) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611412)

How can they tell that it worked?? Did they ask him - or is it some sort of objective test??

-FP??

Re:One year old? (4, Funny)

MikeDX (560598) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611419)

They went to punch him in the face and when he flinched, they screamed "SUCCESS!"

Re:One year old? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9611491)

Well.. For one thing, he was not able to see earlier and now he is playing with toys and handling them well. I saw the report on TV. (I am from India)

Well duh (4, Informative)

SmallFurryCreature (593017) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611648)

It says the boy picked a ball of from the table in front of him. Doesn't exactly take a rocket scientist to tell is he is grabbing for it blindly or directly as a sighted person would.

There are also simpler tests. wave a hand a quickly in front and note reaction, move a light and watch if the eye follows it.

How much he sees and how well is of course another question. But if you had the choice between being completly blind and being able to see a ball on a table what would you choose?

Re:One year old? (4, Informative)

bigsexyjoe (581721) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611715)

Yes, there is an objective test. It uses a device that is a cylinder that can roll. It has pictures on it. You roll it and the patient's eyes will track the motion if he can see it. Interestingly enough, this is a good way to see if someone is faking vision loss. Because if you see the motion you can't help but to track the motion.

Well, (-1, Troll)

cbrocious (764766) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611415)

An eye for an eye...

ATTENTION: ANTI-SEMITIC MODERATION (1, Offtopic)

Ariel Sharon (726189) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611519)

"An eye for an eye" is one of fundamental teachings of the superior jewish faith, and whoever moderated this down is a terrorist. That is all.

Re:ATTENTION: ANTI-SEMITIC MODERATION (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9611545)

Ariel... oh Ariellllll....

Lookie what I have here...

It's a DOUGHNUT!

Down, boy!

Errr... (1, Flamebait)

Wes Janson (606363) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611416)

If this is nothing special, why was it submitted? If I understand it correctly, this is just a PR issue, and nothing of scientific interest.

And no, I'm not new to /.

Re:Errr... (5, Funny)

6079_Smith (676623) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611441)

And no, I'm not new to /.

A slow learner then, maybe?

Just kidding... :-)

Re:Errr... (0, Flamebait)

DAldredge (2353) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611557)

Yes you are

Re:Errr... (0, Offtopic)

hdparm (575302) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611798)

You two remind me of Saddam and a judge [bigmixup.com] .

Re:Errr... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9611751)

You must be new here, and that last sentence must be a horrible misspelling of something else you meant to say, so I'm sure you'll fit right in here.

Text from the second link (1, Informative)

MrP- (45616) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611418)

The newstodaynet.com link seems to be slashdotted..

Here's the pic of the kid:

http://elitemrp.net/sd/4rgn1.jpg [elitemrp.net]
"VISION ACCOMPLISHED: Dr Amar
Agarwal, MD, Agarwal Eye Clinic, interacting
with the parents of one-year-old Karachi- based
Mohammad Ahmed, who underwent eye
surgery in Chennai a couple of days back."

Heres the text:

"Karachi kid's vision restored in Chennai

Thanks to Dr Amar Agarwal, managing director, Agarwal Eye Clinic. Dr Amar performed the surgery in Chennai a couple of days ago.

The joy of the parents of Ahmed knew no bounds as the child, which was blind by birth, had his vision now restored free of cost. Mohammad Salim, father of Ahmed, had learnt about Dr Agarwal from his well-wishers in Karachi.

The well-wishers had earlier consulted the Chennai doctor for an eye surgery.

The family members of Salim are set to return to Karachi in another two days."

Re:Text from the second link (1)

bugninja (660106) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611479)

Revolutionary eye surgery to make the blind see, and we get a BLACK AND WHITE picture??? Is it safe to call BS on this story yet?

gonads (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9611430)

I pee on u

http://www.quotedb.com/quotes/1908 (4, Funny)

Qrlx (258924) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611432)


"An eye for an eye, and soon the whole world is blind." -- Gandhi

Oh, wait.

Re:http://www.quotedb.com/quotes/1908 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9611645)

Why is this modded "funny"? Oh, I know. /. moderators didn't infer "9/11 and War on Terror" as the author no doubt intended to imply.

It's either insightful (due to the nature of Pakistani/Inidian cooperation vis-a-vis the West's struggle against militant Islam) or flamebait (same reason, difference perspective).

But it's not funny.

Reasons why? (3, Insightful)

Agret (752467) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611442)

Maybe this is of note beacuse it is a poorer country with less medical support or maybe its beacuse he was born blind.

Re:Reasons why? (5, Insightful)

DrMrLordX (559371) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611543)

It is of note because the donor is from India, and the child is Pakistani. The two countries do not have a history of friendly relations. However, if you read the article, you'll notice the last paragraph says:

"Last year, a life-saving heart surgery was performed on two-year-old Pakistani girl Noor Fathima at a hospital in Bangalore, also in southern India. Since then a steady stream of Pakistani children has flocked to India seeking treatment for variety of ailments."

It may be that the Pakistanis will become increasingly dependant on India for medical care along with other social support services. This is increasingly likely as Pakistan remains fairly backwards and impoverished while India continues to modernize and grow in wealth.

If this trend does develop, and persist, Pakistan may be forced to improve its relationship with India for the express purpose of maintaining the availability of these services for its people.

Re:Reasons why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9611575)

dont jump to conclusions about other countries without even visiting them, you have to really see the country for yourself to judge whether it is impoverished or not, the children mentioned above had to go to India for extremely complicated procedures that were expensive or couldnt be performed in Pakistan..and India seemed like a viable alternative, i would suggest you thoroughly investigate the issue at hand before passing judgments on it.

Yeah worked really well in the rest of the world (0, Offtopic)

SmallFurryCreature (593017) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611678)

Afghanistan got a lot of its aid from japan so they were so gratefull they blew up statues important to japan's religion. Afghanistan was helped by the US in the war against the USSR so they fly planes into US buildings. There are many more examples, immigrants from the arab world into the western world come to mind.

The way to peace is not to make one country depend on another. It only works if both need each other to be at peace. Even just needing each other is not enough, one of them might decide they need the other really badly and invade.

The best way for peace is if two countries just ignore each other. This kind of "poor backward pakistan" needs "powerfull smart india" is not going to do any good. The indians might get the smugness of americans and the pakistanies the resentment of the arab nations. We all know how well they get along.

For another example, currently the US is extremely dependant on russia for its space program. It was only thanks to russian hardware and knowledge that americans managed to get some duration in space (mir) and the current space station needs russian rockets a lot more then the space shuttle. Yet if you watch american media you would hardly be able to tell this.

Re:Reasons why? (1)

turgid (580780) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611684)

It is of note because the donor is from India, and the child is Pakistani.

There's nothing quite like a bit of good old xenophobia and racism to make the world a miserable place. I can't believe that in this day and age, human society is so childish.

Re:Reasons why? (1)

bheer (633842) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611864)

To add to SmallFurryCreature's great response, I'd say that as a person with family in India I'd love to see an economically successful Pakistan, not an economically/socially dependent Pakistan. Why? Because a) the average poor Pakistani would be much less likely to be swayed by Jihad-mongering terrorists and their promises of virgins in paradise if he had good jobs and access to a decent lifestyle and b) Pakistani generals would be much more wary of nuclear posturing and aiding the Taliban when their business community would tell them to back off. (This already happened in India when the country's IT biz told the govt to tone down war rhetoric because their customers were getting upset -- Friedman had a great piece on it in the NYT [nytimes.com] (paid-for link) called India, Pakistan and GE [utc.edu] (free copy))

The same is true for the Arab world vis-a-vis the West btw.

A very promising technique (1, Interesting)

bobhagopian (681765) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611444)

Though my understanding of the human eye is far from perfect, I believe this technique will work for patients who are born blind as well as those that become blind through trauma or degenerative disease. That is, this technique can, I suspect, be used on *anyone*. I am particularly fascinated by this approach. While it certainly has some drawbacks (e.g., imperfect donor eyes, organ rejection), it definitely gets around the technical issues that one reads about in the U.S. Most of the research I've read about in the past couple years (see, e.g., article 1 [wired.com] and article 2 [dobelle.com] ) involves the use of electronic fixtures of some sort with electrodes connected to the optic nerve or onto the brain itself. It's interesting--though perhaps not entirely surprising--that the low-tech approach might, at present, be more successful than the high-tech one.

Which would you rather have? A human replacement eye, or a pinhole camera mounted behind a pair of sunglasses?

Re:A very promising technique (5, Informative)

BWJones (18351) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611474)

You are not reading the article very carefully. Only the cornea or the transparent outer portion of the eye was transplanted in this case, NOT the whole eye. Furthermore, the two references you report are bad science. First off, let me ask you if organ rejection is something to be considered, would you trade a lifetime of immunosuppresants causing kidney damage and joint disease for vision? Next, the two references in Wired are missing the boat and were written by some very deceptive science. Dobelle is a bit of a crackpot who is using high current electrodes on the surface of the brain and is kindling those patients brains increasing the likelyhood of seizures. Indeed seizures have been reported in those patients. Furthermore, from a conceptual point of view, stimulating visual cortex with crude electrical stimulii will certainly make one see phosphenes, but you can also see them by getting punched in the head. In other words it is not vision and those that are suggesting it is are either deceived or worse. To make things even more dubious, Dobelle has yet to publish his work in a peer reviewed journal and has to perform it outside the US because nobody will let him do it here.

The issue is much more complicated than these individuals would have you believe. There are a couple of corporations that have been started that are very good with media hype. They have good engineers, but the engineers are looking for a solution without understanding what the biology is.

Re:A very promising technique (2, Interesting)

JPRelph (519032) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611618)

"would you trade a lifetime of immunosuppresants causing kidney damage and joint disease for vision?"

To be honest, yes. To me being blind sounds like hell and I couldn't imagine a worse disability. Obviously that's because I've been able to see for the past 20 years, so it might be different for someone who was born blind, but if someone said "vision and kidney/joint problems or blindness" it wouldn't be a particularly hard decision for me to make.

bad, but not terrible (3, Interesting)

grepistan (758811) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611759)

It's not that bad. I'm not blind, but I do know and work with quite a lot of people who are, and you would be amazed at their independence and their quality of life. Like you suggested, many people who have never been able to see are perfectly content with their 'disability', and indeed can't imagine anything else. One of my friends says that if sight-restoring operations were possible in an everyday sense (which they certainly aren't), he would probably not take it. I'm not sure how typical of the blind community this is though.

The people who do really have trouble, obviously, are people who go blind later in life. They suffer more because they obviously didn't grow up blind, and thus didn't develop braille skills and other blind-person tricks like click-navigation (Seriously, a few people I know can point unerringly at furniture, doors and windows after clicking their fingers a few times!) These things take time, and a lot of older people unfortunately believe too strongly in the 'old dogs can't learn new tricks' maxim. The shock of this and the isolation that can come with blindness sometimes cause as many problems for older blind people than their actual physical condition.

Re:A very promising technique (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9611782)

nah, being paralyzed would be much worse. Unless somebody puts a tv in front of you, you might as well be blind. And if you're blind you can still kill yourself, masturbate, and scratch itches.

Re:A very promising technique (-1, Offtopic)

CurlyG (8268) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611670)

Damn it! Why is it that slashdot, whenever I have mod points, is unable to produce a single comment worthy of reading (let alone mod points), yet as soon as I blow my points squashing crap like "OMFG M$/BSD/Lunix sux0rz!!1!" you have to come along and demonstrate what the comments section on slashdot ought to be all about?

It's just not fair that have to I miss out once again on the rare opportunity to mod something up for anything other than "Funny".

All the same - mad kudos to you, sir.

Re:A very promising technique (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9611732)

Only the cornea or the transparent outer portion of the eye was transplanted in this case, NOT the whole eye.


Does this mean he won't have an infrared vision?
Oh.. well.. and I who was hoping for some action..

Re:A very promising technique (5, Interesting)

Henry V .009 (518000) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611646)

Actually, it is doubtful that this technique will work on those who are born blind. Through a number of experiments with eye-patches, electrodes, and kittens (it's not the prettiest side of science) we have found that the nerve connections that are formed in the first few weeks after birth are necessary to vision. So much so that if a patch is put over a kitten's eye for those first few weeks, it will never be able to see out of that eye even once the patch is removed.

I suppose that it would be possible to make electronic connections deep into the brain (past the optic nerve) to get around this. But I would still be skeptical that the brain would ever be able to adjust to processing the new information.

Re:A very promising technique (1)

grepistan (758811) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611795)

Poor kittens. As long as they are helping others though...

More seriously, the developmental side of things is crucial. Without a brain programmed properly (in childhood), it's going to be pretty difficult to learn how to translate the data coming out of the eye into a usable picture of your environment. Being born blind is going to be a life sentence for a while yet.

But, on the plus side, kids who grow up without vision often pick up other skills on the side. Obviously braille reading and writing skills are the main, but blind people often pick up other skills to help them do all the little things we take for granted, such as moving around by feel and using sound to locate doors and other objects.

Wait (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9611446)

We're giving eye transplants to terrorists now? We have plenty of blind in the US of A that need help before those scumbags.

Re:Wait (-1, Offtopic)

bairy (755347) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611862)

Moving alongside the stereotype you're making.. we're on about a 1 yr old here. Not exactly your average bomb making eco-terrorist.

I suppose you also agree with This story [theregister.co.uk] about the 10 year old that wanted a flight simulator GAME

Prior Art? (0, Redundant)

qualico (731143) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611453)

The link is in Delhi so it probably won't take too much slashing.

Regardless, the story does certainly make you wonder what's up for the future. Misleading or not.

Maybe they are just trying to establish prior art for some patent?

Anyone spare an eye for a computer nerd? (2, Funny)

nmoog (701216) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611458)

In the last 8 years of being a programmer my eye sight has gone from perfect to shithouse. I actually read this slashdot article title and it gave me hope - once my eyeballs fall out, I can just get new ones!

Though from the first few comments here looks like I shouldnt hold my breath. Better keep waiting for the video camera borg-eyes.

Re:Anyone spare an eye for a computer nerd? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9611492)

"Better keep waiting for the video camera borg-eyes."

It will be worth it just for the information overlay and zoom features.

Re:Anyone spare an eye for a computer nerd? (1)

hellmarch (721948) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611497)

if you have a good refresh rate on your computer and use indirect lighting your eyes shouldn't get too messed up. florecent lighting on the other hand is shit. i use an eclipse light attatched to the top of my monitor. before i got it my contacts would dry out and i couldn't see anything when i would use the computer for a while. now my eyes don't have any problems during extended computer use.

Re:Anyone spare an eye for a computer nerd? (2, Funny)

nmoog (701216) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611505)

My doctor says that my 30% eye quality reduction is directly linked to my 300% pr0n viewing increase.

I dont believe that medical mumbo-jumbo.

Re:Anyone spare an eye for a computer nerd? (5, Interesting)

bigsmelly (165699) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611582)

You need to exercise you eyes.
Staring at a screen all day every day will cause your eyesight to get worse.

Put an eye chart on a wall 15 feet away, and look at it every 15 minutes. Your eyesight WILL improve.

Brings new meaning... (4, Funny)

laserbeak (794029) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611475)

So there is an Eye in team afterall. :)

Wow (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9611478)

totally disgusting!

kekekekekekeke

Hmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9611482)

Cornea transplant?

Anyone else reminded of The Eye [imdb.com] ?

OMFG it's like "body parts" meets "the eye" (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9611483)

After the eye transplant, the pakistani boy began to see the world... AS AN INDIAN WOULD. When he looked at the Kashmir territory, he saw Indian territory. The horror! With time the Indian cornea began to take over his entire body, and he began speaking in 18 different languages.

THIS FILM APPROVED BY THE PAKISTANI FILM COMMISSION

Re:OMFG it's like "body parts" meets "the eye" (1)

DrMrLordX (559371) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611584)

Hmm, sounds like the Eye of Vecna [paradise.net.nz] to me.

How long... (-1, Offtopic)

killbill! (154539) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611487)

... until terrorists or pirates start stealing other people's irises to bypass iris scanning devices?

Or maybe I watched Minority Report one time too many... ;p

The first advantage of security systems such as passwords or smart cards is that you can change them. Which means that it isn't such a big deal if you happen to lose them, since they can be replaced.

Whoever came up with the idea of scanning the eyes of visitors to the US deserves to have their eyes ripped off with a wooden spoon and then be sent to Gitmo. It does not / will soon not prevent terrorists from entering the US. I only pisses visiting tourists and businessmen off, and will cost hundreds of people their eyes.

Re:How long... (0, Offtopic)

nightgrave (786582) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611577)

Yes but it might be a little hard to aquire one of the eyes that would make it through the security system.

After the eye works, then what? (4, Interesting)

phr2 (545169) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611489)

If the kid has been blind since birth, has his visual cortex developed properly? I seem to remember hearing about horrible experiments involving sewing shut the eyes of newborn kittens. When the kitten is a month or two old, the eyelids get unsewn and the eyes work completely normally, but the kitten never really learns to see.

I feel feel squicked just thinking about this, but I wonder if that kid will ever have really useable vision.

Re:After the eye works, then what? (1)

Solilok (791022) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611527)

if you read the article to the end, it says the boy reached for a ball in front of him.
I find it hard to believe though.

Good news links (5, Informative)

fleener (140714) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611490)

Google News results [google.com] for those of us rejecting cookies and unable to bypass the Syndney Morning Herald's bogus "Register later and continue to your Article" link.

Re:Good news links (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9611773)

Can't help with the cookies, but on the registration side, SMH and their sister site The Age don't actually verify email addresses for registration, so just eneter any old gibberish!

Re:Good news links (1)

the_thunderbird (682833) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611803)

Because we are "of higher" intelegence than other animals, it would probably be a lot easier for us to learn how to use our eyes, with the propper training, i.e. focusing on certain objects, etc and learning how to interact with them, it shouldn't be a problem. Don't forget the boy is one year old, he won't have fully developed vision anyway, so in a sense he will be able to see perfectly well (for someone with vision only in one eye), although he will lack something we take for granted, peripheral vision...

The man with the transplanted brain (0, Offtopic)

acz (120227) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611502)

I saw a documentary [imdb.com] from 1971 which is even scarier then all this eye transplant stuff.

Star Trek: TNG (4, Funny)

ari_j (90255) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611503)

I wonder if he'd get it if we sent him letters reading:

Dear Geordi,

Congratulations on your eyesight.

More power to the engines,
Captain Your Name Here

"It's the will of Allah" (-1, Troll)

phrasebook (740834) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611525)

Sigh :-(

Lord needs no operation, but a healing touch (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9611532)

Lord Jesus Christ,
Show how simple a task this for thee.

Re:Lord needs no operation, but a healing touch (-1, Offtopic)

Thaidog (235587) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611868)

You're not even close to funny. And neither is benny hinn...

Man wtf Slashdot (2, Insightful)

mboverload (657893) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611549)

Here I thought a boys WHOLE eye was replaced! That would have been amazing and something for the whole world to rejoice for. Then I remember that we can not currently do eye transpants, and then I confirmed it by reading the article and other posts. You assholes should burn in hell for giving me that huge lump of amazment then slaping it down.

Amazing (0, Redundant)

nightgrave (786582) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611556)

Amazing that it's possible to do this... I wonder what'll be next.

Re:Amazing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9611636)

Sliced bread

Re:Amazing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9611695)

What a horrible thought.

Re:Amazing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9611823)

oh god...that sick bastard. when I was a kid I saw a baker brutally mutilate an innocent loaf of bread. I can still see the crumbs floating down to the floor. i've been in therapy for years but i don't think i'll ever be able to eat a sandwich again.

TNG (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9611563)

Dr. Crusher, where is my VISOR ?

This interests me greatly.... (0, Redundant)

Thaidog (235587) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611615)

...since I suffer from macular degeneration... As many of you know there is no way to transplant the retina of the eye... but it sounds as if they have successfully transplanted a whole... eye... here?


(Sorry I did not get to read the whole thing bc I wanted to get this post in quickly... back to reading)

Re:This interests me greatly.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9611728)

Read the first comment

Stem cells (0, Offtopic)

Cholerae (689693) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611668)

For a whole eye to be transplanted successfully, wouldn't there need to be a serious advance in stem cell research in order to regenerate the severed ocular nerve? Yet another reason why those ethics lobbyists and the Bush administration should just pack their bags and allow scientists to continue research in that particular area. Maybe that way a slashdot article with the same title would be accurate within a few years ;)

Just goes to show (-1, Troll)

pyth (87680) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611679)

Technology is evil!

Specifics shmecifics (4, Insightful)

gwoodrow (753388) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611685)

Sure, this kind of science has a long way to go. But doesn't everything? This is frickin' amazing! For me personally, I always had this weird fear growing up of anything making me blind. When I was a kid I actually wanted to get glasses specifically for the purpose of having a shield over my eyes! If there is eventually full transplant success, the possibilities would be incredible. I'm not sure if there's another physical feeling that would be as powerful and emotional as someone who has lived their life blind getting the opportunity to see at last.

State of Affairs ! (4, Interesting)

phreakv6 (760152) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611690)

Its really heartening to see the social ties the two countries still have inspite of the tussle at the top.I hope the recent talks [indiatimes.com] between the two countries gets more bonds between the two countries.

Welcome. (-1, Offtopic)

Apiakun (589521) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611700)

Great. One more kid that'll be able to see natalie portman and want her to pour hot grits down his... oh nevermind.

But (2, Funny)

m1chael (636773) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611718)

does he like what he sees?

Pakistani Outsourcing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9611720)

Since then a steady stream of Pakistani children has flocked to India...

So we're not the only ones? ;)

What about the psychological aspect? (4, Interesting)

musicmaster (237156) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611752)

I remember some pop psychology book (author forgotten) with a story about some blind person getting vision when he was an adult. The problem was that he couldn't cope with it and got psychological problems. When his vision started deteriorating again he felt relieved.

Will this boy have the same problems?

robbIE's fauxking PostBlock devise still broken? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9611776)

from a post meant to be titled:

corepirate nazi felon execrable joined at the hype (Score:mynuts won, not funnIE)
by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 05, @05:36AM (#9611764)
what a surprise? as for robbIE's fauxking pateNTdead PostBlock corepirate nazi puppet censorship devise, it's still broken, also.

The Web sites of Senator John Kerry and the Democratic National Committee run mainly on the technology of the computing counterculture: open-source software that is distributed free, and improved and debugged by far-flung networks of programmers.

In the other corner, the Web sites of President Bush and the Republican National Committee run on software supplied by the corporate embodiment of big business - Microsoft.

The two sides are defined largely by their approach to intellectual property. Fans of open-source computing regard its software as a model for the future of business, saying that its underlying principle of collaboration will eventually be used in pharmaceuticals, entertainment and other industries whose products are tightly protected by patents or copyrights.

Many of them propose rewriting intellectual property laws worldwide to limit their scope and duration. The open-source path, they insist, should accelerate the pace of innovation and promote long-term economic growth. Theirs is an argument of efficiency, but also of a reshuffling of corporate wealth.

Microsoft and other American companies, by contrast, have long argued that intellectual property is responsible for any edge the United States has in an increasingly competitive global economy. Craig Mundie, chief technical officer and a senior strategist at Microsoft, observed, "Whether copyrights, patents or trade secrets, it was this foundation in law that made it possible for companies to raise capital, take risks, focus on the long term and create sustainable business models."

The dispute can take on a political flavor at times. David Brunton, who is a founder of Plus Three, a technology and marketing consulting company that has done much of the work on the Democratic and Kerry Web sites, regards open-source software as a technological expression of his political beliefs. Mr. Brunton, 28, a Harvard graduate, describes himself as a "very left-leaning Democrat." He met his wife, Lina, through politics; she is a staff member at the Democratic National Committee.

His company's client list includes state Democratic parties in Ohio and Missouri, and union groups including the United Federation of Teachers and the parent A.F.L.-C.I.O. "The ethic of open source has pervaded progressive organizations," Mr. Brunton said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/05/technology/05s ys tems.html?pagewanted=2

indian doctors (1)

chrisranjana.com (630682) | more than 10 years ago | (#9611815)

One more tribute to the Indian doctors. heard UK NHS is planning to outsource soon, its medical services..guess to which country ?
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