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Net Sticky Notes All Over London

timothy posted more than 10 years ago | from the all-over-everywhere-would-be-good dept.

Wireless Networking 201

An anonymous reader writeswith a link to a BBC story which mentions in passing the Urban Tapestries project for distributed, collaborative location-based note-taking, excerpting "In practice this means giving people a specially-equipped mobile phone that allows them to wander around central London and leave virtual notes for other people to read by writing them on the phone and then 'sticking' them to a building. It works because the position of each phone is constantly tracked so when a note is written the place can be noted - when someone else goes to the same place, they can read the note."

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In soviet russia.... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9619340)

Balls shave cowboy neal!

GNAA Announces Victory over Apple Community (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9619341)

GNAA Announces Victory over Apple Community
GNAA Announces Victory over Apple Community

San Francisco, California - Just three days after being the first in the world to leak photos of Apple's upcoming revision to MacOS X, version 10.4, Steve Jobs announced to the world facts about the new Operating System consistent with information leaked by elite GNAA operator Gary Niger and prospective member Ron Delsner.

"We've pulled it off!", noted Niger during Jobs' announcement at Apple's Worldwide Developers Conference. "The GNAA plan was clever from the start with this one I think. When we received our leaked copy of the OS, we knew that by releasing only partial information and some screenshots, the association people would make with the GNAA would lead them to believe the screenshots were fake. Now that Steve 'Rim' Jobs has verified everything we leaked, we have managed to fool the entire Mac community. In essense, a few hundred thousand people have been trolled, a few hundred thousand people have lost. Though I do wish they have a nice day"

"I don't think it could have worked out any better; Every single one of the features shown in our screenshots, particularly Dashboard, which everybody called as fake, was demoed by Jobs. This is my revenge for being beat up on the rent", quoted Ron Delsner on being approached by reporters. "I've been wanting to join the Gay Nigger Association of America for quite some time, and knew that I help pull off something big if they were to let me in."

Delsner was right, as upon hearing this, Gary Niger immediately produced a vial of what he called the "Holy Gay Nigger Seed" from his front pocket, and asked Ron to kneel, at which time the Seed was poured upon Ron's head, making him an official member of the GNAA. Noticing the television cameras present in the press room, Gary cited that this was in fact the first televised induction of a member into the GNAA.

"But back to the troll", Niger said quickly after. "I had a sneaking suspicion that the homosexual caucasians of the Mac community would feel threatened by the GNAA's massive nigger cocks and immediately cast doubts upon any screenshots we produced for them. I saw this as an opportunity to troll hundreds of thousands of people. It just goes to show that GNAA is greater than j00, and that fristage postage is mine."

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ThinkSecret.com - "In fact, it was the source that led many users to call the shots fake; the information in that story, as well as this one, was provided by Gary Niger and Ron Delsner of the GNAA, an organization that deals in crapfloods and Slashdot trolling."

AppleInsider.com - "Enjoy the photoshop work. I seriously don't think Apple would be so crazy to use those jargons."

MacRumors.com - "Hmm... Information by "Gary Niger" of GNAA. Sounds too stupid to be true. And that dashboard thing? Hogwash me thinks ..."

MacRumors.com - "I immediately thought of them when I saw "GNAA". Anyone who reads Slashdot would be familiar with them - they put big spam posts everywhere. Yes, and it doesn't surprise me. I don't think the screenshots are real (at least not the Dashboard ones), but I have no trouble believing the PDF."

Kim Kap Sol on AppleInsider.com said "I can guarantee those are fake." He then continued by saying "Hello I R Korea KEKEKEKE OMG ZERG RUSH GOGOGOGO ^_^"

Gary's reply to this was "Way to make a complete idiot of yourself you dog-eating douchebag."

Steve Jobs was unavailable for comment immediately following the keynote address, though WWDC attendee and GNAA member Porfa noticed "A cute wiggle in Jobs' ass as he walked away."

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fp (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9619342)

fp

first note (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9619343)

first virtual note you will see:

"call jenny for a good time: 555-0634"

Re:first note (3, Funny)

Intellectual Elitist (706889) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619377)

Shouldn't that be "867-5309"...?

Re:first note (0, Offtopic)

supersandra (788539) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619413)

But I've already got Jenny's number. I'm gonna make her mine... Jenny, please... don't change your number.

Re:first note (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9619386)

Probably more like
"First note!"

Re:first note (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9619399)

how'd you get my girlfriends number? wtf?

Re:first note (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9619447)

Well, both Jenny and your girlfriend are imaginary characters made up for the sake of a slashdot post. So you really shouldn't be surprised that they have the same phone numbers.

Re:first note (1)

Biogenesis (670772) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619500)

How about:

"Call Jenny for an adequate time: 555-0634"

Re:first note (4, Funny)

richie2000 (159732) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619632)

"Call the US Naval Observatory for the exact time"

Re:first note (1)

pjt33 (739471) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619517)

Unlikely, unless it's left by an American tourist. London phone numbers are 6 digits.

Re:first note (1)

Dicky (1327) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619541)

Unlikely, unless it's left by an American tourist. London phone numbers are 6 digits.

Or alternatively, the right answer is that they're 8 digits... Well, mine is...

Re:first note (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9619593)

Yeah, and the 555 prefix isn't allocated in the USA -- that's why it's used in TV shows etc.

Re:first note (5, Funny)

lachlan76 (770870) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619549)

More like:
SSH Jenni for a good time:
IP Address 66.35.250.150
MAC Address: 6A-4F-39-B7-15-C8
WEP Key: 1764F31243B6A43C426C11701C6D583D

Re:first note (3, Funny)

martinthebrit (565913) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619696)

Or why not

finger Jenny for a good time.

Re:first note (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9619559)

Everyone knows her number is 867-5309

Re:first note (1)

B747SP (179471) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619662)

They're all over Tokyo already! I have quite a collection actually. Post-it note style advertisements for young ladies who, I presume, offer 'massages'.

Re:first note (1)

naden (206984) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619677)

Clearly the first note .. will be:

FN!!!!!!

Re:first note (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9619701)

More like: Get uR low C0st Pills. V|cod|.n $ X|A|Nax & v1agR@ # Va1ium .S.oma ` .P.ntermin bmtnuahigqpf. Call 554122 today!

need... more.... TINFOIL!!! (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9619345)

just keeps getting worse...

Re:need... more.... TINFOIL!!! (2, Insightful)

Zone-MR (631588) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619535)

wtf? What keeps getting worse? Am I really missing something or are you complaining that a voluntary system for exchanging notes is an exchange of privacy?

Re:need... more.... TINFOIL!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9619542)

s/exchange/invasion

/me wakes up

Re:need... more.... TINFOIL!!! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9619584)

HEIL HITLER!! LUNIX SUXXX!! SUCK ON MY TARBALLS!!!!!!



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This Works !!! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9619346)

I just left a note saying how gay this is !

the "tin-foil hat note" (0, Redundant)

Tezkah (771144) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619352)

"It works because the position of each phone is constantly tracked so when a note is written the place can be noted - when someone else goes to the same place, they can read the note." "Big Brother is watching"

Brave new World (4, Insightful)

ObsessiveMathsFreak (773371) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619355)

Here, give us your exact location so we know where you are and what your doing at every moment of the day

It's FUN!!!!!

Also if you want to read the NY Times, get a passport, bank, shop, buy things or in fact breath, you will need to give someone complete access at all times to every facet of your live so that you may be served better. Remember it's not data rape if you consent.

Re:Brave new World (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9619387)

Also if you want to read the NY Times

They think I'm either a Mr W Smith of London, England, or a Mr Spartacus of Rome, Italy. You didn't give them your real name, did you?

Re:Brave new World (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9619598)

Names are meaningless. As soon as you make it into a database, you're identfied by a unique number, not your name.

What you do while being tracked is what matters. They will infer that "Mr W Smith of London, England" and "Mr Spartacus of Rome, Italy" are in fact the same person when the RFID customer bonus card of Mr Spartacus has a high locational correlation with Mr Smith's sticky-note phone. One slip up is enough to connect all false identities to your real name and home address.

Re:Brave new World (1)

bersl2 (689221) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619547)

It seems like an innocent-enough project. I wouldn't go bonkers over this. Yet.

Re:Brave new World (1)

kristofme (791986) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619627)

Let's also not forget that the UK has CCTV cameras everywhere [bbcworld.com] , and that cars in downtown London are tracked as well [bbc.co.uk] . Although this may have some real benefits (tourists being warned when they approach dangerous areas for instance)..

Latest Cellular Technology Users in New Era of... (4, Funny)

jubitzu (750748) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619358)

...scavenger hunts?

Nifty

And the mobile phone operator GETS RICH (5, Insightful)

Jarnis (266190) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619365)

Let me guess - viewing each note = text message, or at least bunch of GPRS data transfer. And if you think that's free...

1. Make location-based 'text note' service
2. Add stupid people (supply: near infinite)
3. PROFIT!!!!

Re:And the mobile phone operator GETS RICH (1)

longbot (789962) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619469)

Actually, some cellular networks have unlimited data. I know for a fact that Sprint (my provider) does.

Re:And the mobile phone operator GETS RICH (1)

Jarnis (266190) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619812)

Lucky you. Tho I doubt its 'unlimited'. As in if you use it for internet traffic and leech 100GB via your mobile, you will either get your contract terminated, or you get a fat bill.

At least in Finland, 100MB monthly data is something like 10 euros, and extra MBs are charged separately. Ripoff for net surfing via mobile phone...

Re:And the mobile phone operator GETS RICH (1)

someme2 (670523) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619523)

And that is why this may be the killer application for always-on services... something Telcos have been looking for for the past few years!
Next thing on the to do list: Find a variation of this that requires more bandwidth and voila - UMTS killer application.
What about sticky notes with photos on them?

could be useful... (4, Funny)

ForestGrump (644805) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619366)

imagine this:
-I urinated on that corner last night, use other side of street.

-Lonely? looking for sex? inquire within.

-Missing dog...50 pound reward.

Re:could be useful... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9619378)

I am looking to urinate and have sex with lonely 50-pound dog!

Re:could be useful... (1)

robotoverflow (738751) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619412)

-Missing dog...50 pound reward.
I'm curious, exactly how much did your missing dog weigh?

Re:could be useful... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9619614)

I'm curious, exactly how much did your missing dog weigh?

What's a henway?

Re:could be useful... (1)

B747SP (179471) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619670)

Must be a bloody big dog if he leaves 50 pound 'rewards' around the place!

Re:could be useful... (1)

Ugodown (665450) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619569)

Well, he has a point, with the amount of pubs in London, imagine how many drunk messages will get posted.

Re:could be useful... (2, Funny)

DrMrLordX (559371) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619653)

One wonders how many Slashdot trolls will abuse this. Can you imagine all the goatse ASCII art stickies that will be everywhere? I wonder if they'll try to censor these things.

Sweet (3, Insightful)

RTPMatt (468649) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619373)

This could make for some truly kick ass scavenger hunts.

More Spams (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9619376)

First, unwanted calls from marketeers,
then unwanted sms'es,
then unwanted NOTES!
What's next?

Re:More Spams (4, Funny)

voudras (105736) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619433)

unanted replies?

Re:More Spams (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9619518)

Unwanted typos?

Bathroom Grafitti (2, Insightful)

Dwedit (232252) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619380)

Why do get the idea that this will be bathroom grafitti all over again?

Re:Bathroom Grafitti (1, Troll)

flaez (471571) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619572)

The project centres on a fundamental human desire to 'map' and 'mark' territory as part of belonging and of feeling a sense of ownership of our environment.

this, in fact, is the stated purpose of the project.

now if they included some sort of slashdot-style moderation-system where people could mod down annoying messages, this might become interesting. But then again, who wants to pay for GPRS traffic just to mod down some troll

Idea (5, Insightful)

laserbeak (794029) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619385)

A city could use this to their advtantage, by leaveing electrnoic notes near landmarks with information about the landmark... could boost tourism.

This is London we're talking about... (1)

ringbarer (545020) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619594)

Given the amount of filthy pakis and other subhuman islamics that infest the once capital-of-the-civilized-world, it wouldn't be surprising to learn that they would leave little Al Qaeda communications around popular landmarks. Would definitely boost Terrorism.

Geocaching (5, Informative)

Nighttime (231023) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619389)

Isn't this similar to geocaching? Previous /. stories here [slashdot.org] , here [slashdot.org] and here [slashdot.org] .

The official Geocaching website [geocaching.com] .

Re:Geocaching (3, Informative)

toesate (652111) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619607)

Isn't this similar to geocaching?

Well, technically, there is a different -

  1. Geocaching is primarily GPS based, and locating position with the help of satellites that provides longitude and latitude coordinates, and is very accurate.

    This Urban Tapestries is GSM/GPRS based, using a mobile phone, locating a position with the help of surrounding mobile phone base stations. The accuracy of a position is dependent on the site topology, and could be anywhere around 10-50 meters radius in urban context, for example.

Application wise, I think each serve slightly different purpose too -

  1. Geocaching requires the seeker to actively seek the cache, and is primarily hobby based.
  2. Urban Tapestries will probably do a information push when one is within a vincinity, and may not require one to actively seek it, except to give Urban Tapstries permission to push. This also means that it could be subscription based.

Theoretically, it could be possible to use geocaching caches(it's data) in GSM environment. However, the geocaching cache's seeker will probably have a harder time, as the cache will be very hard to find.

Notes you won't see (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9619393)

- Don't go in - I had my phone stolen here
- Lost - One mobile...
- No WMD in here...

"Dave... (5, Funny)

squaretorus (459130) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619398)

... is a cunt"

Can now be written absolutely ANYWHERE in central london :-D I just need to get one of these, write a script to post 'dave is a cunt' every 30 seconds, and spend a day on my pushbike!

I wonder how it will work on elevators! "floor 2: Dave is a cunt" "floor 3: Davis is still a cunt"

Can you say 'cunt' half a dozen times in a /. post without being automatically burnt to death? I may well find out!

Re:"Dave... (1)

laserbeak (794029) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619407)

should vote for democrat". Subliminal government messages left all over town to sway your vote? it's possible.. remember, yvan eht nioj!

MOD PARENT +1 INSIGHTFUL! (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9619410)

Dave really is a cunt.

Re:"Dave... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9619669)

You should hope the admin for that service doesn't have any idea what grep is.

try these:
DhAve is ah Coont.
dAvE iz A cuntt
etc etc... Otherwise they'll be gone pretty fast...

Re:"Dave... (1)

Wanderer2 (690578) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619826)

AC wrote:

You should hope the admin for that service doesn't have any idea what grep is. try these:

DhAve is ah Coont.

I've heard that a lot of SMS services automatically convert the word cunt into aunt... although I don't know how widespread that is as I don't think I've ever sent anyone that particular four-letter delight.

Dave is an aunt doesn't quite have the same ring

Public authoring good, but misuse concerns looms (5, Insightful)

toesate (652111) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619404)

The idea of public authoring sounds good, just think about wikipedia.org.

However, the big problem lies in the possibilities for misuse, if accountability is not there. The liabilities that the tapestries information provides might be a privacy concern too, especially when it infringes someone else's privacy.

For this to work, one way is to have some kind of moderation and meta-moderation capability on the quality of the information pasted to the buildings. ;)

Re:Public authoring good, but misuse concerns loom (1)

laserbeak (794029) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619415)

Good idea, have moderators give 'karma' points to the users. So if its' an informative note, then they get +5, informative. If they are trolling the streets then.. well you get the rest. hehe :)

Thank you. B.G. (1)

RedLaggedTeut (216304) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619643)

Very good idea, having a wiki page for every geographic location. Just yesterday night, my research team had this idea and we are now patenting it. The patent should be filed by the end of week.

Yours truly,
Bill Gates

only a matter of time (5, Insightful)

voudras (105736) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619417)

before someone sticks a note like "this resturant sucks", which initiates some slander suit of some sort - ugh.

Slander or libel? (2, Informative)

pjt33 (739471) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619524)

I think it's fairly easy to argue that the notes are published, and it's therefore libel rather than slander.

Re:Slander or libel? (1)

Tatarize (682683) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619550)

Although, it does open a nice door... what if you changed the note system to a message system? Have it actually say "This place sucks" in your voice. Then again, its only slander/libel if its false, and sucking is an opinion of yours so really eather way you're pretty well covered with just a non-descript sucks comment.

oooooohhhhhh fun (4, Funny)

howman (170527) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619421)

Stop looking at your phone... you just stepped in dog shit.

Privacy?? (3, Interesting)

linsys (793123) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619429)

Well I guess the whole idea of personal privacy will go out the window with this.. Posted on every house will be the phone number, SSN of the people living there, CC numbers and any other info someone who hates you wants to post!! Can;t wait for the day someone posts "WILL BE GONE FOR THE NEXT WEEK, LINDA (some poor guys sister), LEFT THE KEY IN THE FLOWER POT, PLEASE FEED THE DOGS" comes home and place has been robed a few times!! GREAT IDEA (for Cops, Murderers, Robbers, Rapests, Identity Theft.. etc...)

Re:Privacy?? (1)

linsys (793123) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619436)

Damn should have used the "Preview Button... " Post didn't get formated properly!


-=Linsys=-
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#1 Hacker Game Site!

Re:Privacy?? (1)

Quattro Vezina (714892) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619446)

Good point--for this to take off, there should be an option to encrypt notes (SSL, perhaps?) with a password needed to decrypt them.

Re:Privacy?? (1)

linsys (793123) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619462)

Or how bout the drug dealer...

Jose, the coke is in the vent in the upstairs bathroom, use the white string NOT the RED one to pull it up, esay

OPS!!!

Message to store owner lazy kid....

Hey, Bob didn't get a chance to empty the safe, sorry, will take care of tomorrow, only left $2,000 in it tonight, but I did change the combo to 10-12-65 just to be safe!

Re:Privacy?? (1)

Gordonjcp (186804) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619800)

We don't have SSNs in the UK, we have NI (National Insurance) numbers. What is the obsession with keeping SSNs secret anyway?

I've seen this before (1, Interesting)

Number_1_Bigg$ (771467) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619430)

We had somethhing like this at my school, UC San Diego. We were given PDAs that were able to access the wireless network on campus. One of the applicatoins that came preloaded allowed us to post messages that everyone could read, or post private notes that people on a short list could read. It was really fun for about three days, and then school started and we stopped using it.

Watchout guides ! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9619431)

I think the tourist guides are soon going to go outa of business

Good to see it in the wild. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9619454)

Slashdot Article about HP and This Very Same Idea Posted in 2001 [slashdot.org] . Although It is pretty cool that instead of being just an idea it is now in the wild. I think that this could could be very usefull and fun - it would be nice to be able to pull up reviews of a restraunt or its menu as you walk past it - or leave strange messages for someone to stumble upon. Although the thought of constantly being tracked is distasteful to some, so would constantly having messages pop up on your phone. You would think they could have it so the GPS coordinates would only be sent when you wanted to send or get location-based messages ... otherwise I don't see this catching on.

More Insidious Uses (5, Insightful)

BlackHawk-666 (560896) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619459)

How about revenge stuff like:

Owner not home from 8:30AM to 6:30PM, please rob.

Smash my windows!

I'm watching you, pervert!

There's plenty of scope for use and abuse of this. You could tag a person's house as belonging to a paedophile, or claim they are a rapist, all without any sort of screening. Not good.

Re:More Insidious Uses (1)

BlueJay465 (216717) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619648)

In spite of all the advantages that waypoint notes could have, and I see quite a few, I must agree with parent. I can only imagine the inevitable case where a stalker is being a menace, and as the frightened prey getting startling little jolts from the phone in her pocket when she runs into one of these virtual notes:

BOO!
You really should take your shirt off
I can see you, little girl, can you see me?? >:)

Not to say, of course, since she has triple-bolted all her doors and windows and would be quite difficult to attack...

...only to have some /. perv 25 feet away hacking the waypoint database from his phone to leave messages directly in her path in his creepy cat & mouse game.

Sort of like Usenet overlaid on the world (5, Insightful)

serutan (259622) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619461)

My first reaction to this was that it sounded really interesting because I couldn't think of an easy real-world analog. It's not like graffiti, because the notes aren't seen by everybody, you have to look for them. More like guestbooks. But not like guestbooks either, because you have to look for them too or you don't know they are there.

Its really more like Usenet, except you have to physically go to where each newsgroup is instead of them coming to you. And like Usenet, if this type of thing ever became truly public I bet it would be vandalized by spammers and idiots and rendered practically unusable.

MMRLRPG (2, Interesting)

bramez (190835) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619790)

Massive Multiplayer Real Live Role playing Game!!

You could bring Leisure Suit Larry to the streets. Imagine walking around in London and getting "item" notes that can trigger access to "door" notes.

Warwalking (1)

N4DMX (614024) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619468)

Could be useful, like digital warchalking if you will. Just get one of those PDA's with a built-in phone, and go at it.

geonotes (4, Informative)

neodym (413008) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619477)

There is (was?) a project at KTH/SiCS in stockholm with a similar concept called GeoNotes [geonotes.sics.se] . This link is unfortunately not working right now, here [ercim.org] is a description of the concept.

Location Linked Information (3, Interesting)

ralphm (794343) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619489)

Hmm, this looks a lot like the Location Linked Information [mit.edu] work done at MIT by Matt Mankins. The Urban Tapestries site mentions that they eventually want a distributed server system for Urban Tapestries. Everybody could set up their own server. The Location Linked Information project already has this in its architecture. It is based on Jabber, and the server side component, as well as a lot of details (both technical and 'marketing') can be found on the site mentioned above.

Re:Location Linked Information (2, Informative)

ralphm (794343) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619534)

Oh, and by the way, LLI has a classification system, where other users can rate the 'information nuggets' attached to their location. Nasty stuff like advertisements, offensive notes and other 'Location Spam' can be given a lower classification. LLI allows to filter on essentially any kind of (meta-)information, so you don't have to see everything that is being 'left behind', but only retrieve the stuff you are interested in.

Re:Location Linked Information (1)

Malawar (674186) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619750)

We all know this system works great on Popular Websites [slashdot.org]

The railway bridge... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9619491)

The railway bridge that crosses the North Circular road in London between Crouch End and East Finchley will soon have the message "M. KAHN IS BENT" attached to it.

Re:The railway bridge... (1)

Stokey (751701) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619733)

So few people in the world are going to get this, but it certainly made me chuckle.

On a related note, it would make tagging less obvious. Leaving your sig everywhere you went around London would now require the reader to have a phone.

As so many people have pointed out, it'll be abused and broken in moments, or totally ignored because it's just worthless. What would be more interesting would be the ability to leave video clip messages as well since many new phones are coming with that feature. Superb fun!

Great, great. (4, Insightful)

kahei (466208) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619492)


So now I can walk around and as well as being bombarded by ads, aggressive beggars (this is London, right), and suchlike traditional annoyances, I can ALSO read all the pathetic, repetitive thoughts of the erstwhile world capital's smug Nathan Barleys. I wonder how long before I get to the first "I am soooo stoned... hehehe" message. Probably about 20 seconds.

Luckily, it'll only take about 20 more seconds before the whole system is taken over by drug dealers and prostitutes!

Silver lining!

PS I am not a bitter, misanthropic loner. I just really think it'll be that annoying.

PPS Ok, I _am_ a bitter, misanthropic loner. You got me :)

Prior art (4, Informative)

Mr_Silver (213637) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619508)

Something similar was trialled a couple of years ago called "Mobile Grafitti" which basically worked the same way. You could write and "drop" messages anywhere and then others could pick them up.

Unfortunately it got canned early on for several reasons, one was that locations were rather broad which meant that often the note made no sense as it covered a wide area and secondly because it was abused chronically.

Wonder what it would do to the resturanats ... (1)

AmitArora (320125) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619512)

Wonder what it would effect the resturants ... You probably would find a note Nice food or Stay away from the curry on your resturant in coming times ...

Re:Wonder what it would do to the resturanats ... (1)

zazzel (98233) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619555)

It's definitely worth thinking about liability issues.

I know how guestbooks and public forums are treated right now (at least here): as soon as the webmaster learns about possible copyright infringements or other illegal activities, he has to remove them.

Who's liable in such a public system? I'd get an unregistered pre-paid phone and leave abusive messages, so who's going to be liable?

I could imagine a whole bunch of legal problems due to the immensive potential for abuse.

Not a good idea...

Maybe it would require a system of registered "authors" that have to provide their phone number.

Still, I prefer old-fashioned tourist guides and stuff like that. I'd definitely be too lazy to check my phone/pda/whateverfuturedevice every couple of blocks.

--
no sig here.

what would you do... (2, Funny)

uv_light (750273) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619522)

if you walk in front of goverment building and you see the note saying that, "explosion" that would scare the hell out of everyone.

Already Been Done (3, Insightful)

alexpage (210348) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619567)

This is a simple idea, and a useful, community editable database of geographically linked information for London already exists in The Open Guide to London [openguides.org] . And it's licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license [creativecommons.org] which allows commercial usage. So all you'd need to do is implement some way of searching by OS co-ordinates (most nodes in the Guide have this information) which should be pretty trivial, and you're away.

MOD PARENT UP (Insightful) (1)

Neo-Rio-101 (700494) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619583)

Imagine giving tourists a cell phone with this system and specfic detail of an area in the database. You step close to some historic moment and you get a phone note with info about it. Meddle with the phone and place it back to the graffiti channel, and you'll get more info than you bargained for.

House Hunting (2, Interesting)

Allanon01 (673502) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619592)

This would be good for house hunting. See a for sale sign and instead of having to call the real-estate representative or talk to the owners, you can hear a note that gives more information about the house. Then only if you are still interested in the house you can make a call to the representative. This wouldl save you and the real-estate representatives time.

Re:House Hunting (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9619834)

You could even have pictures of the interior to see if the place is worth burgling.

At Trafagar Square (1)

boogy nightmare (207669) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619626)

'If you can read this a pigeon is shitting on your head'

Signal to noise? (4, Insightful)

LondonLawyer (609870) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619631)

At first glance this looks like a great idea. I had visions of a sort of geographical wiki - a resource for users by users and with the potential to knit communities together with local information. East Enders is fiction - in London most of us barely even speak to our next door neighbours.

I imagined it could help with directions to the nearest tube stop, police station or whatever. Lost tourists would be shepherded to safety. Public-spirited Londoners would post interesting and informative nuggets of local culture.

Fun uses could include placing a string of notes by pubs to mark out a pub crawl or helping commuters hook up with that girl they see each day on the opposite platform and never get a chance to talk to.

Then I snapped out of it.

Without any sort of regulation or structure, this is just going to become a blizzard of virtual flyposting. We already see enough junk posters pasted up around the city. When you can do the equivalent digitally just by walking through a neighbourhood, when you know that the section of the population viewing that content will be a target market (young professionals, gadget-hungry kids) the opportunity to spam will just be way too hard to resist. Any worthwhile content will be buried amongst acres of worthless junk. At least with email you know that (apart from a relatively small number of spammers) most people with your address are people you would want to have your address. Even then, spam is still a huge problem.

When every kid with a mobile can post inane junk and every 'guerilla marketer' can post repeatedly about their latest product, the signal to noise ratio quickly drops to unusable levels. The only advantage is that you don't see it unless you look for it.

Not a troll, but still goatse... (-1, Offtopic)

Kjellander (163404) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619675)

Cool!!!

Now I can leave tiny ascii versions of goatse ALL OVER THE WORLD!

This will show up, eventually. (5, Funny)

Pantero Blanco (792776) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619691)

"You Stand Before the Museum of Natural History... Before you is a magnificently architected building, containing many marvels of the world. In front of it is a clear fountain, around which students sit and chatter. Beneath your feet is a manhole.

A policeman (white aura) stands here, looking around in search of troublemakers.

Visible exits are north, west, east, (down)."

Great just great (2, Interesting)

thegoogler (792786) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619702)

now my anoyying neighbor will put one in front of my house that says "plays loud music at 9pm" o and what about notes in another languages?

Reminds me of OpenGuides (2, Informative)

twoshortplanks (124523) | more than 10 years ago | (#9619703)

The open guide to London (and now many other places)

http://london.openguides.org [openguides.org]

Yep, it's another wiki (though one with a shedload of metadata bolted on)

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