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More Classic NES Titles For GBA Announced

simoniker posted more than 10 years ago | from the won't-rest-til-all-nes-titles-resurrected dept.

NES (Games) 100

Thanks to Nintendojo for its list of the latest NES titles to be re-released on the Game Boy Advance in Japan. Though "it remains to be seen if any of these particular games will make it to North America", highlights include "Super Mario Bros. 2 [Japanese version], Zelda II: The Adventure of Link, Metroid, Kid Icarus, [and] Castlevania." We've previously covered earlier NES Classic iterations - in a similar vein to a recent GameSpy article, how many dollars would you actually spend on these NES re-releases for GBA?

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I'd pay the average full price... (5, Insightful)

Wyrmw00d (571980) | more than 10 years ago | (#9630542)

If they were bundled as a 5 game cart.

Re:I'd pay the average full price... (3, Interesting)

iainl (136759) | more than 10 years ago | (#9631156)

I might as well, but these bundles aren't aimed at us. Nintendo's market with these packs is the NES-obsessed collector or retro-fan; the game-per-cart method allows them to go to town on the packaging, which is an important part of why they are doing this. Its not really aimed at those that just want to play a bunch of old games.

Re:I'd pay the average full price... (1)

Sancho (17056) | more than 10 years ago | (#9631534)

I seem to recall hearing that the manuals for these games were all black and white (in the US--color in Japan). That's not catering to the collector crowd, in my opinion.

I'd buy some of these if there was the option to play updated versions of the titles. Just for the originals, I'll pass.

Re:I'd pay the average full price... (1)

|/|/||| (179020) | more than 10 years ago | (#9632940)

Oh, the manuals. Sorry, for a minute there I thought you said the GAMES were in black and white.

Re:I'd pay the average full price...OFF TOPIC (1)

curtisk (191737) | more than 10 years ago | (#9634624)

OT: such a elusive username! Nice Work!

Re:I'd pay the average full price... (4, Interesting)

aflat362 (601039) | more than 10 years ago | (#9633017)

A real NES obsessed collector (such as myself) collects NES games, not GBA reissues of NES Games. However, we will purchase a few of our favorites in the GBA format to take with us on the road.

Myself, I bought the Super Mario one, and might get Donkey Kong.

Though, at half the price I would probably buy them all.

Re:I'd pay the average full price... (1)

Lobo42 (723131) | more than 10 years ago | (#9636680)

Damn, that's a great sig.

About a hundred bucks (3, Insightful)

(trb001) (224998) | more than 10 years ago | (#9630545)

in a similar vein to a recent GameSpy article, how many dollars would you actually spend on these NES re-releases for GBA?

Around $100 USD...enough to buy a decent flash ROM and linker. I owned all these games, I'm not buying the exact same game again. I rebuy VHS on DVD because a) the quality is better, b) I always hated rewinding. I don't have that problem here.

--trb

Re:About a hundred bucks (2, Interesting)

Kris_J (10111) | more than 10 years ago | (#9630751)

I bought an e-reader with the promise of cheap NES re-releases on cards. I'm a little annoyed that N has decided to release them in expensive carts instead. Perhaps now that the dot-code has been reverse engineered some 3rd-party NES IP owners could print their own cards...

Re:About a hundred bucks (0, Flamebait)

Corngood (736783) | more than 10 years ago | (#9632255)

So you appreciate the added value from a DVD, but you don't see any added value in making these games mobile?

If you still own these games, and you see no added value in the re-release, why are you pirating instead of just playing your copies? If you no longer own them, then I have even less sympathy for your argument.

Re:About a hundred bucks (1)

Pluvius (734915) | more than 10 years ago | (#9634667)

So you appreciate the added value from a DVD, but you don't see any added value in making these games mobile?

Of course he does; that's why he said he'd get a flash ROM and a linker.

Rob

Re:About a hundred bucks (1)

Corngood (736783) | more than 10 years ago | (#9637965)

So I get modded down for mentioning IP rights, and you get modded up for misinterpreting a rhetorical question?

Nice

Re:About a hundred bucks (1)

Pluvius (734915) | more than 10 years ago | (#9638108)

Modded up how?

And I didn't "misinterpret a rhetorical question." It would only be a rhetorical question if he really didn't see the value in making a game mobile.

Rob

Your comparison doesn't apply. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9635883)

Quality is better on these remakes, maybe not much better but it is there.

Second, if you were trying to come up with a good comparison you would have said you bought a DVD recorder and tuner for your computer to dump all of your video to DVD or SVCD.

Ah, Legend of Zelda II.. (5, Funny)

sporty (27564) | more than 10 years ago | (#9630604)

How I was so impressed with link then. for he was left AND right handed in that one.

Re:Ah, Legend of Zelda II.. (1)

Enrico Pulatzo (536675) | more than 10 years ago | (#9631112)

The final boss was always such a pain in the ass until I read a tip on gamefaqs that allows you to finish him off relatively unharmed.

I wonder if that bug's been fixed link Enix fixed some cheating bugs in their dragon warrior games that were re-released?

Re:Ah, Legend of Zelda II.. (1)

|/|/||| (179020) | more than 10 years ago | (#9632978)

He was ambidextrous in the original LOZ too - the "facing left" and "facing right" sprites were the same sprite reflected.

I wouldn't mind playing through Zelda II again, it's been a long time. That old gold-plated cartridge is probably still floating around my parents' garage, but I suppose it would be easier to just pick it up for my GBA.

considering (1)

falcon5768 (629591) | more than 10 years ago | (#9630619)

I was poor and only owned a few games and rented the rest, as well as didnt get a NES untill SM3 came out, I would buy these games simply cause i didnt get them and would rather play them on my gameboy than my NES....

Why Metroid? (4, Informative)

DragonPup (302885) | more than 10 years ago | (#9630655)

You unlock the classic Metroid when you beat Metroid Zero for the GBA already.

Nintendo == evil money whores (1)

Spleener12 (587422) | more than 10 years ago | (#9630771)

A graphically-updated version of Mario Bros. was included with every single GBA game with Mario in it(well, the Mario Advances and M&L Superstar Saga) and that didnt' stop Nintendo from re-releasing that.

It's... basically going to be the same thing as the ZM port, I'm sure, only without the convenient save function and without the requirement of beating a drastically improved version of it.

Re:Nintendo == evil money whores (3, Informative)

JeremyVS (732324) | more than 10 years ago | (#9630963)

A graphically-updated version of Mario Bros. was included with every single GBA game with Mario in it(well, the Mario Advances and M&L Superstar Saga) and that didnt' stop Nintendo from re-releasing that.

i was under the same impression, until i actually got a gba, and bought a few of the mario advance games...in fact, the mario game included on all of those cartriges is "mario classic". it is not Super Mario Bros. from NES, but is (apparently) an old arcade game, more in the lines of the old Donkey Kong. so when they came out with SMB1 for gba, i was quite happy to drop $20 on it.

Re:Nintendo == evil money whores (2, Informative)

Svenheim (723925) | more than 10 years ago | (#9631049)

It's Mario Bros., like the parent poster said. Super Mario Bros. and Mario Bros. are two completely different games. Mario Bros. was an arcade game, that also was released for NES.

Super Mario Bros != Mario Bros (5, Informative)

Spleener12 (587422) | more than 10 years ago | (#9631641)

Yes, and the old arcade game that was in all the Mario Advance games was originally called Mario Bros. (no Super,) which was subsequently re-released as part of the NES classic series despite a superior version being availible for $10 more [1up.com] .

Super Mario Bros 1, on the other hand, has only seen four major releases on any system (NES, SNES(Mario All-Stars), GBC(Super Mario Bros. DX), and GBA(NES Classic).) They probably haven't been whoring it as much due to the fact that it doesn't really stand up as well in this day and age next to later games. Not that I'd be surprised if the next Mario Advance game was a port of the All-Stars version of SMB1.

Animal Crossing... (2, Informative)

wikthemighty (524325) | more than 10 years ago | (#9633558)

Don't forget that Super Mario Bros. appears in Animal Crossing on the Gamecube along with a few other NES games [gamefaqs.com] . Note that the game can be downloaded onto a GBA using the link cable.

Re:Animal Crossing... (1)

Radix37 (670836) | more than 10 years ago | (#9635671)

Don't forget you can't access that game in AC, and a couple others, like LoZ, without using an action replay or similar cheating device. If you have one already, great, but who's going to buy that just to get the games in AC when you could just buy the games?

Freeloader (1)

wikthemighty (524325) | more than 10 years ago | (#9637196)

Well in this case I allready had the Action Replay, and we're talking $25 to unlock the games (plus other usability) vs $20 for each game.

Don't get me wrong - I've already bought Legend of Zelda and would have purchased Super Mario Bros. except that I've already got the SMB DX on the GBC (which has a wonky small view, but has so much more content...)

Re:Nintendo == evil money whores (0)

zonker (1158) | more than 10 years ago | (#9636393)

oh no, nintendo is offering a product that some folks want and are willing to pay for yet aren't forced to buy on an open market! what is it about choice, i just don't understand it?

i mean, what the fuck is going on here?! i liked it much more back in my day when we had to carry around a tv, a nes and a big fuckin' battery around to play some of those old games i used to love. videogaming and excercise together at last! yeah, that was portable gaming and we liked it.

sarcasm aside, if you don't like it, don't buy it. but i'm sure you know that already...

Re:Nintendo == evil money whores (0)

zonker (1158) | more than 10 years ago | (#9636506)

though i will grant you that the price is a little steep...

Re:Why Metroid? (1)

|/|/||| (179020) | more than 10 years ago | (#9633054)

I just finished Metroid Zero a while back, and I gotta say that it's an awesome game. To anybody who enjoys the 2D Metroid games, I highly recommend it - especially if you played the original Metroid on the NES. Easily rivals Super Metroid, and the nostalgia factor really kicks in sometimes (remember the Kraid theme?).

Re:Why Metroid? (1)

antime (739998) | more than 10 years ago | (#9634283)

It's also included as an unlockable in Metroid Prime on the Gamecube (complete Metroid Fusion and link the GBA and Cube). It probably uses the same emulator that's used in the Zelda collection and Animal Crossing.

they're compatible (3, Interesting)

truffle (37924) | more than 10 years ago | (#9630656)

Worth mentioning that the GBA is not region restricted, you can play Japanese cartridges on a US gameboy.

Also it's legal (I am not a lawyer) to play NES roms on a GBA through a flash card and emulator if you own the original title.

Re:they're compatible (3, Insightful)

AndyBusch (160585) | more than 10 years ago | (#9631034)

It's probably not legal. It may be if you dump the ROM from your own NES cart, but downloading it from elsewhere isn't.

However, it is ethical, in many many eyes.

The Nintendo produced carts do have some sprite work done on them, so they look a touch better, but it's not major.

Re:they're compatible (1)

Pluvius (734915) | more than 10 years ago | (#9634735)

Also it's legal (I am not a lawyer) to play NES roms on a GBA through a flash card and emulator if you own the original title.

Under fair use it should probably be legal, but fair use has been sabotaged as of late.

Rob

Overpriced (3, Insightful)

Bastian (66383) | more than 10 years ago | (#9630823)

With Phantasy Star Collection, they crammed the first three Phantasy Star games onto one GBA cart, and had to write two emulators (Sega Master System for I, Sega Genesis for II and III.) For three great games, I spent 20 bucks.

Nintendo, on the other hand, wants me to spend 30 bucks apiece for these games. I find that hard to swallow considering that, even if some of these are amazing games, this series is still just shovelware.

Re:Overpriced (1)

Luveno (575425) | more than 10 years ago | (#9631268)

Given the difficulty even the Dreamcast has emulating the Genesis, I don't think the GBA has the horsepower to emulate one for the PS Collection - the games are probably ports.

Your point remains, though. And it's a good one.

Re:Overpriced (1)

Fred Or Alive (738779) | more than 10 years ago | (#9632513)

The collections credits definitely mention emulator programmers, so some of it is emulated. Some of it might've been tweaked though (the graphics etc. have been changed so they fit on the GBA's lower res screen). The sound's lousy though.

The Dreamcast should be able to emulate a Megadrive pretty well (the Saturn does pretty well with Sonic Jam, apart from odd sound sometimes), although I guess it depends on the coders.

Re:Overpriced (4, Informative)

cbirdsong64 (410584) | more than 10 years ago | (#9631727)

The NES Classic series is only $20 each. Still too much, though.

Re:Overpriced (-1, Flamebait)

superpulpsicle (533373) | more than 10 years ago | (#9634531)

Of course they are going to overcharge. Nintendo's last good console was SNES in the early 90s. They only have 1 GBA revenue stream to capitalize on nowadays. And don't be a Nintendo Fanboy and tell me they make their money from Cruisin USA arcades etc. Nintendo is on it's last leg... GBA.

Re:Overpriced (2, Insightful)

I_Love_Pocky! (751171) | more than 10 years ago | (#9634796)

If you don't think the GameCube is a good console, you probably haven't used it.

Re:Overpriced (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 10 years ago | (#9635215)

That's a pretty large leg, though. And they're seeking to add new ones with the DS (which had a pretty good reception on E3).

Re:Overpriced (1)

jdubois79 (227349) | more than 10 years ago | (#9637945)

Really? They 30 bucks in the states? I get mine for 2000 yen. About 16-17 bucks. They're not a great deal, but they're a pretty good deal. I just wish they'd being back 3rd party games like some old school mega-man action.

I'm all set.... (4, Funny)

RegalBegal (742288) | more than 10 years ago | (#9630850)

I can't swing my GBA around on it's cord like I did my NES controller when I get frustrated for not making any more ground in Metroid.

Re:I'm all set.... (2, Insightful)

YaRness (237159) | more than 10 years ago | (#9631334)

more importantly, a GBA SP is costlier to replace when you hurl it across the room.

i already have a feeling i'm going to mess up the hinge from shaking it in frustration trying to beat that damn spider boss in metroid fusion.

All set (2, Interesting)

Rethcir (680121) | more than 10 years ago | (#9631186)

Since I own a copy of Mario All Stars, FF Origins, and Megaman Anniversary Collection, I'm tempted to say i'm all set with NES games for a while. Truthfully though, I'd love to see new releases of Castlevania/Castlevania 3, Contra, and/or Ducktales 1. I wouldn't be willing to pay $30 though. Plus there's the fact that I don't own a GBA yet, but that's my own fault. I think if I did, I'd either buy a flash card and emulate, or I'd be playing something along the lines of pokemon or golden sun. I think if they came out with a good version of FF VI though I could be swayed to buy one and pay another $30 for the cart.

Re:All set (1)

Echnin (607099) | more than 10 years ago | (#9631275)

Duck Tales for NES! Yeah! That game kicked ass! Duck Tales 2 was also good.

Me, I'm waiting for the Nintendo DS and someone to make a SNES emu for that. Shouldn't be impossible.

Re:All set (1)

88NoSoup4U88 (721233) | more than 10 years ago | (#9633134)

Lol, i remember playing Ducktales, and while humming along on the chorus / Ducktales song, i remember switching to Phil Collin's 'You can't hurry love' - If you still remember how the Ducktales song goes ; give it a try :D

Re:All set (1)

Rethcir (680121) | more than 10 years ago | (#9633567)

Ohhh you just have to wait.. love don't come eeeasy.. etc. Also, have you noticed that Elec Man's music from Megaman 1 has a melody very similar to some old song by Journey or something like that? I can hear the singer singing like the exact same four notes, and then busting into a electric guitar solo. I'm glad that they preserved it in the Anniversary Collection remix, and also it's cool how they used elements of that theme in Ring Man's stage's remix too.

Re:All set (1)

Enrico Pulatzo (536675) | more than 10 years ago | (#9634028)

Didn't Ducktales come out for the GBC?

Re:All set (1)

Rethcir (680121) | more than 10 years ago | (#9634178)

I'm pretty sure there was one for old-school monochrome gameboy, at pretty much the same time as the NES one. I seem to remember an old strategy guide with black and white pixely pictures of Scrooge McDuck.

Huh? (1)

pragma_x (644215) | more than 10 years ago | (#9631233)

Maybe it was more popular in the states, but I'm suprised that Mega Man (Rock Man in Japan) wasn't listed at all. Good to see Castlevania in the mix, but this collection really needs more Konami/Ultra titles like Contra, Jackal, TMNT and Metal Gear.

Kid Icarus? I'm sorry, but that game has the most obnoxious music in *any* NES title ever created. Why anyone would subject themselves to reliving that I'll never know. :)

Re:Huh? (2, Informative)

Eggman27 (587963) | more than 10 years ago | (#9631590)

The reason it's not in there is cuz it's already being rereleased for the GameCube in the Mega Man 15th Anniversary Collection.

Re:Huh? (1)

silicon not in the v (669585) | more than 10 years ago | (#9632334)

I remember Konami having some of the best games for the NES--usually superior to the ones actually made by Nintendo.

The ones I would really like to see is the Double Dragon series. These would work really well on the GBA because of the link cable capability. Starting with DD2, they were simultaneous multiplayer, so that would be perfect for linking together.

Oh, and one of my favorites, although not very well known, is Bionic Commando. For those of you not familiar with it, he was a soldier who had basically a spring-launched grappling hook on one arm so that he could launch it to grab hold of ceilings, overhead beams, etc. to pull himself up or swing from. There was a cool tie-in to another game in that his mission was to rescue Super Joe, who was the main character of the game Commando. There was just so much cool potential for doing tricky stuff in this game. Once you got the hang of it, you could do the tarzan thing in some areas, where you would swing across the ceiling, in a latch and release method. He had some cool power ups you could get like a three-way gun or very powerful single shot gun.

I have gotten these on my NES emulator, but playing them portable would be great.

Re:Huh? (2, Informative)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 10 years ago | (#9635252)

The NES rereleases support the wireless adapter. Hold L+R before choosing multiplayer to open the "conection method" dialogue, IIRC.

Re:Huh? (1)

antime (739998) | more than 10 years ago | (#9639365)

There was a Bionic Commando game released for the Gameboy Color, you could try finding that one.

Re:Huh? (1)

silicon not in the v (669585) | more than 10 years ago | (#9641903)

"There was a Bionic Commando game released for the Gameboy Color, you could try finding that one."

That is really cool, but then I would also have to find a Gameboy Color. You see, I've never bought any version of Gameboy. I love the NES, but never could tolerate the small screen of the Gameboys.

Re:Huh? (1)

antime (739998) | more than 10 years ago | (#9642328)

Then you need a GB Player, they're good and cheap. If you don't have a Gamecube they're good and cheap as well. Surely that is a small price to pay for a game of Bionic Commando?

Re:Huh? (1)

silicon not in the v (669585) | more than 10 years ago | (#9642422)

I've got Bionic Commando on my computer NES emulator, so I do get to play it if I want, and getting to save state any time is great. I was able to beat the game that way. (There's a really gross animation of Hitler's head blowing up at the end.)
But perhaps you missed the part where I said I didn't like the small screen of Gameboys so I wouldn't want to get one.

Re:Huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9642911)

But perhaps you missed the part where the other poster reccomended the Gameboy Player, where the screen is as big as you want it to be.

Re:Huh? (1)

pragma_x (644215) | more than 10 years ago | (#9643557)

Oh, and one of my favorites, although not very well known, is Bionic Commando.

Clearly one of the unsung heroes of the good 'ol NES. That is one of my all time favorites as well.

I've been waiting for a sequel/reprisal/whatever now for 14 years. Hell, I'd even settle for a quake mod based on it.

Here it comes, folks. (1)

justkarl (775856) | more than 10 years ago | (#9631568)

Ahem....

Game Boy Advance....$100

Ports of really old games for a system you haven't played for 10 years....$25 ea.

Knowing Nintendo will never see another dime from this kid with an emulator....priceless.

Something better than a GBA... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9631644)

For a long time now, I've been wanting to build a somewhat better solution to portable than a GBA. Something that plays all sorts of games for the NES, SNES, GB/GBC, GBA via emulators. Something that could do light word processing and coding, have builtin networking (wireless or not), be able to do some SSH work. Think a tiny Linux box built into something like a PS2 gamepad with a 3-4" screen sticking out and with a D-pad and 10 buttons.

Closest I've come to actually building it is researching a few SBCs at www.tri-m.com and a few LCDs.

Re:Something better than a GBA... (2, Informative)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 10 years ago | (#9631999)

I think what you're searching for is the GamePark GP32 [lik-sang.com] . It's completely open. There are native games for the system, but from what I heard most of them aren't worth bothering. The 133MHz ARM9 makes the system good for emulation and its open structure allows for lots of ports (ScummVM, Doom engine, etc).

Re:Something better than a GBA... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9634155)

I've seen the GP32s and what I'm looking for has a bit more capability. I'm also shooting for something with a larger screen (640x480x24-bit). Think more a desktop from about 5 years ago (800MHz+ CPU, 128MB+ RAM, 2GB+ storage, 10/100 Ethernet).

Re:Something better than a GBA... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9637745)

how about the Tiqit?

Re:Something better than a GBA... (1)

ildon (413912) | more than 10 years ago | (#9639166)

Just buy a GP32 [lik-sang.com] .

PocketPC! (1)

Audigy (552883) | more than 10 years ago | (#9652437)

Dude. Get a PocketPC.

WiFi, bluetooth, all kinds of word processing stuff... and my iPaq 2215 supports CF 1/2 and SD/MMC media

There's a SNES emulator out for it that is blazing fast, I'm getting it to play more than full speed now with sound. It's really great. :D

http://paqpark.nuclearfallout.net/forum/viewtopic. php?t=420 [nuclearfallout.net]

and of course it goes without saying that there are countless gb/nes ... heck, even playstation emulators for these things.

Go PocketPC and never look back. :)

Some of these titles are a waste... (1)

Eggman27 (587963) | more than 10 years ago | (#9631648)

Those with an e-Reader (not many) and those with Animal Crossing for GameCube (probably a few more), can already get many of these games onto their GBAs rather easily - same quality as well, if I'm not mistaken. I know Balloon Fight and Donkey Kong are available as well as a couple others that have been rereleased - they should have marketed the e-Reader/AC connections better. And anyone with Metroid Fusion/ZeroMission/Prime can get the original Metroid on either GBA or GameCube.

Re:Some of these titles are a waste... (1)

HomeGroove (527053) | more than 10 years ago | (#9632550)

I hope this does not signify the end of the e-reader. I mean I know that DK on e-reader is not as full featured as the classic NES reissue, but still. I love the e-reader. I wish more people adopted it. I see them in the clearance bin at game stores for the low, low price of $5 in the near future.

Re:Some of these titles are a waste... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9633049)

The problem with the eReader is that it has to read an entire game and load it into system RAM before playing. Where this becomes a problem is about 1987 or so when game size almost universally surpassed the incredibly small amount of memory in the GameBoy Advance. Super Mario 3 is a perfect example, being, what, 8 times the size of the GBA's memory _and_ sporting a specialized chipset?

eReader Game-N-Watch cards (1)

wikthemighty (524325) | more than 10 years ago | (#9633609)

With the demise of the eReader goes the Game-N-Watch series of cards, which I had really been looking foward to, even if they were released in the silly collectable format like the Animal Crossing eCards.

Re:eReader Game-N-Watch cards (1)

Eggman27 (587963) | more than 10 years ago | (#9633721)

I actually hadn't heard about the Game & Watch cards until a couple days ago. My big beef is that we in the US will probably never see Series 3/4 of the SMA4:SMB3 e-Reader cards - new levels that will most likely never see the light of day on this side of the Pacific.

As for the Animal Crossing cards, I like the collectable format - given how many characters, items, and patterns you could get from them, it made sense. Although it would be nice for them to release a full package or box set of the entire series, now that they've kind of given up on the format. About the only thing they're still supporting is the Pokemon Card Game and I have no desire to start that up.

Re:Some of these titles are a waste... (1)

Allison Geode (598914) | more than 10 years ago | (#9637046)

except for the fact that games like balloon fight and ice climber on NES had multiplayer, yet they left them off for the e-reader cards.... however, multiplayer has been retained for the nes classics series, even with single-pak linkup (and while I don't know about other games, in Super Mario Bros., if you link up for multiplayer, and then disconnect the cable, the other player can still play through the whole game single-player for as long as the gameboy is turned on!)

I'm interested (1)

Matthew Weigel (888) | more than 10 years ago | (#9631675)

You can play these games in emulators, of course, but my real interest is playing them on a TV- with the GameCube GBP, you can do that. The GameCube essentially becomes a proxy for all your Nintendo platforms that way, which is a bit easier to handle in terms of video switches :-)

Re:I'm interested (1)

someguy (23968) | more than 10 years ago | (#9632677)

You should pick up a Dreamcast, then. There are well written emulators that you burn to a disc with a few hundred megs of roms to play right on your tv. No need to mess with the GameBoy Player disc and a bunch of cartriges. If you're really insistent you could put each rom on a different disc.

Re:I'm interested (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9633403)

SNES emulators don't run at full speed. Do you even own a Dreamcast?

Re:I'm interested (1)

someguy (23968) | more than 10 years ago | (#9667343)

The article is about NES games. Do you even read the article?

Re:I'm interested (1)

Matthew Weigel (888) | more than 10 years ago | (#9638225)

Nah. I hate the DC gamepad.

Game Boy Player warning (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 10 years ago | (#9643758)

my real interest is playing them on a TV- with the GameCube GBP, you can do that.

Though the Classic NES series will probably work on the Game Boy Player accessory, there exist several titles for Game Boy systems that won't work on the Game Boy Player:

  • Workboy, and any other title that requires a device that plugs only into the original Game Boy's larger link port. (The current Game Boy link port shape and size was introduced with the Game Boy Pocket.)
  • Kirby Tilt n Tumble, and any other title with a tilt sensor built into the Game Pak. Nintendo neglected to patch the games to use the analog stick instead of the tilt sensor.
  • Majesco's GBA Video series. The owners of copyright in the TV shows involved have made it a license condition that Majesco prevent the games from running on Game Boy Player because among current consoles, the GameCube is the only one unable to output Macrovision Video copy-prevention signals. In addition, to run these on an emulator on a computer with TV-out, you'll need to use RascalBoy Advance. The usual GBA emulator (VisualBoyAdvance) shows only a black screen.

The GameCube essentially becomes a proxy for all your Nintendo platforms that way, which is a bit easier to handle in terms of video switches

And there's one Nintendo platform with interchangeable games that's still unable to operate on a television, and that's the Virtual Boy. Even a left-eye-only view would suffice to me.

They are too expensive (2, Interesting)

Clomer (644284) | more than 10 years ago | (#9632037)

I would be willing to pay $50 if the whole series were on one cartridge, or at the very least 5 games per cartridge. But I feel like I'm being ripped off in them charging $20 a game for games that in many cases I already own a copy of.

That's my disappointment in this whole thing. Really what I'd like to see is a GameCube disc with every NES game on it. They could get away with charging $100 for it, too, and I would probably get it.

Re:They are too expensive (4, Insightful)

DaveCBio (659840) | more than 10 years ago | (#9632799)

Agreed, it's way too much for an old game. Nintendo is cashing in on nostalgia. Can't believe they have the balls to chastise the industry for the state of games when they live on remakes and re-releases.

Re:They are too expensive (1)

MoistVomit (688482) | more than 10 years ago | (#9634181)

IMHO, I think that by doing this - Nintendo's also relying on their past originality (in terms of unique games) to carry them- but there's only so many Mario remakes you can throw at the public before they become bitter... Sure wish I'd see something new from NIN instead of remakes... I wonder how many of these they'll release again once the NIN DS comes out?!

Re:They are too expensive (0)

zonker (1158) | more than 10 years ago | (#9636707)

they likely realize that the nostalgia market is large, but not huge, so they rerelease these games but aren't shipping the numbers of them that they would say, metroid zero where they *know* they are going to sell a shitload of units.

my guess is the relatively high cost may be a factor of supply/demand. they might only break even if they were selling the games for say $10 each, which is not good business (of course annoying customers with perceived high prices isn't either).

they may also figure that putting a developer to work on a few titles to put together a multigame pack might be too costly to develop. if so, it is too bad, because it would be great to have some more full series packs like all the donkey kong games, all the various sports titles (each of which weren't that great alone but might be fun in one big pack), etc...

Re:They are too expensive (1)

Spleener12 (587422) | more than 10 years ago | (#9642073)

Better yet, they could do what Atari's been doing- sell something that's basically an NES controller that hooks directly into a TV with a bunch of old NES games stored on it.

Also, the problem with the "GC disc with every NES game on it" idea is that Nintendo doesn't have the rights to do that with most of the NES' library and it would be a massive pain in the ass for them to do so.

Port these games instead (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9633740)

I will instantly buy at full price GBA versions of:

1. Civilisation
2. Risk
3. Gunstar Heroes

The price is ridiculous (2, Insightful)

Hwaguy (253509) | more than 10 years ago | (#9634057)

I work at a used video game store, and the price on these classic NES games is nothing but a joke!
It is quite funny to see a new copy of Pac-Man World (or whatever they call the collection of six or seven pac-man games) sitting next to "Classic NES Pac-Man" for the exact same price!

Also, someone also pointed out Metroid Zero contains itself AND Metroid, what would compel someone to buy JUST Metroid? I cannot believe that Nintendo can sell these games, the only one worth buying is the Legend of Zelda one.

Finally, even if the games were priced correctly (in my mind, that would be somewhere around 8 dollars, or a four on a game pak for 20 dollars) they still dont feel like the NES. The screen proportion feels a bit off, and the controls seem just a little bit sloppy. I would just suggest shelling out the 30 dollars for a NES deck and the pocket change for the games. Not only will you have more fun, but isn't "retro" cool and hip these days?

NES pixel aspect ratio (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 10 years ago | (#9643884)

The screen proportion feels a bit off

You're correct. The NES's pixel aspect ratio was 40:33, or 1.212:1, or roughly 6:5. I computed this given the official ITU pixel aspect ratio for digitized NTSC signals (10:11, defined in CCIR 601) and the fact that each screen pixel takes up 2/3 of a color clock. The GBA's pixel aspect ratio, on the other hand, is square; NES screens in both PocketNES [pocketnes.org] (the unofficial emulator) and acNES (the official emulator, used in Animal Crossing and the e-reader) are scaled down such that the pixel aspect ratio is 4:3.

bad source for article (1)

hiroshi912681 (589840) | more than 10 years ago | (#9634311)

Take a look at Nintendojo's source. The-Magicbox clearly states:

- UNCONFIRMED: Nintendo will release the next batch of Famicom Mini titles for GameBoy Advance in Japan on August 10, for 2000 yen each. The 3rd volume will contain 10 classic Famicom Disk System games...

While I'm sure it's a plausible rumour, it's still a rumour.

I personally hope it's true, I've always wanted to try the 8 bit version of the Lost Levels. It's a shame they didn't re-release Super Mario DX on GBA with its bigger screen and possibility of scaling down the original gameplay. I thought the challenge modes were quite fun. Sadly, I was never good enough to unlock the Lost Levels.

The Lost Levels did make it to the US in pirate cart form, back in the day. From what I understand, a lot of places were renting them out. But, Nintendo did a good job of making sure something like that didn't happen again. I always wanted one =(

Re:bad source for article (1)

simoniker (40) | more than 10 years ago | (#9635225)

I guess the official Nintendo page [nintendo.co.jp] for Vol.3 has popped up now (maybe since Magic Box posted the info?), so all is good with the world.

Irony, Emulation, and Piracy (2, Insightful)

blueZhift (652272) | more than 10 years ago | (#9634323)

I think's it's somewhat ironic, that emulation and piracy probably had a big hand in Nintendo's current love affair with NES rereleases. Few have fought harder to fight piracy and emulation than Nintendo, but one can argue that emulation and piracy proved the existence of the market they are now happily mining. I don't think they'd have been as willing to risk this without that proof.

This is no endorsement of piracy, but I suspect that piracy rates are just another tick on the marketing meter for measuring a game's popularity. As for the price of these classics, well $20 isn't too bad, but they should IMHO be more like $9.99 unless they come with some decent extras.

I won't even bother (1)

DarkFencer (260473) | more than 10 years ago | (#9634361)

I have about 50 old nes games sitting in my attic. Most or all don't work anymore, and the NES certainly doesn't work.

What did I do? By one of those Flash memory GBA cartridges with a USB link.

I can fit about 35 NES games on one GBA sized cartridge and be able to save at any point during the game. I wouldn't even think of buying these games for $20 a pop.

They have the technology. Release like 20 games a cartridge and charge $50 for them.

Re:I won't even bother (1)

hiroshi912681 (589840) | more than 10 years ago | (#9636088)

There is a way to bring your grey flashing screen NES back from the dead: get a new 72 pin connector! They should run you about $10. I used to refurbish NES systems for a local used game place just by replacing the 72 pin connector, it's not that hard... it's just a bunch of screws. The games will work every time (unless it's got bad dirt on it). No more blowing out the cartridges. The real culprit was the worn out pins not making good contact.

My NES works so well now, I don't even have to press cartridge down for it to startup. If your game still doesn't work after that, then the game battery might need replacing (if it had one, of course).

I'm told that a 256 megabit flash cart can fit every US release NES game on a single cart. But I'm sure getting an old outdated 64 megabit cart would be more cost efficient if you just wanna put your favourites together... especially if that's all you want to do with it (since those outdated flash carts aren't big enough for most games, and won't save properly on half of them). It'd possibly be even cheaper if you can find a 32 megabit cart!

Re:I won't even bother (1)

FunkSoulBrother (140893) | more than 10 years ago | (#9639779)

I don't really have a problem with the emulation, but can you really enjoy NES games using save states all the time? I mean they are usually very short but written so that you have to replay challenges over and "master" the game in order to beat it. With save states it seems you'd finish most NES games in like an hour.

savestate challenges (1)

hiroshi912681 (589840) | more than 10 years ago | (#9645924)

I've actually used save states to challenge myself. I always played Contra with "the code" as a child... I wanted to play it now without dying constantly.... So, every time I died, I'd load a save state from the beginning of the level. This way, I learned how to play the game without dying so much. I'm working on being able to play the entire game without dying. So far, I'm doing pretty well. The next challenge will be to play the game without getting weapon upgrades. ;)

20 Dollars (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#9635425)

How many dollars would you actually spend on these NES re-releases for GBA?

$20 for 20 Games per cart

no need to spend more money... (1)

edrugtrader (442064) | more than 10 years ago | (#9637132)

I own an NES rom copier, a 512MB GBA rom card, a GBA rom copier and have access to NES emulators that run on the GBA.

I simply dumped all my NES roms to my PC, and packaged them all with the emulator into a single GBA rom.

Did I break any patent, copyright or IP laws? I don't think so.

how many dollars would you actually spend on these NES re-releases for GBA?

precisely zero. (i owned the tools already and consider them a capital expense)

No more than the original (1)

dead sun (104217) | more than 10 years ago | (#9638326)

While it's certainly nice to have a portable format for the games, some of the games just aren't suited to playing a few minutes here, few minutes there like I do with my GBA.

I've played many of the old NES and SNES favorites, and own many as well. These still work with my NES or SNES, which are still going strong. There is zero chance I will repurchase and games I currently have for either of these systems.

On the other hand, if Nintendo starts releasing the rehashes for the GBA at the cost I can find working used carts for my NES or SNES they have a winner. That means about $3 for Super Mario 2, $3 for Excitebike, etc. Games I'd like to play again but haven't gotten around to purchasing for my old systems. Heck, make it 150% of that since it's portable and they might have a deal. However Donkey Kong for even $20 makes me really laugh. $5 and I might be tempted, any more and I'll just find the original.

I think I figured something out... (1)

rsilvergun (571051) | more than 10 years ago | (#9639909)

looking at the japanese page there's serveral releases that are japanese specific (I've forgotten all my kanji, but one of them looks like a dating sim or something). This might explain crap like Pacman and bomberman being released in the states. Nintendo was trying to quickly pad out the US line up with easy to port titles. At least, I can't think of another explanation for yet another release of Pacman and bomberman.

Re:I think I figured something out... (1)

Haeleth (414428) | more than 10 years ago | (#9640212)

looking at the japanese page there's serveral releases that are japanese specific (I've forgotten all my kanji, but one of them looks like a dating sim or something).

You're probably looking at one of the Famicom Tantei Kurabu [nintendo.co.jp] titles there. They're not dating sims, they're high-school detective adventure games, and pretty good ones too.

...okay, there is a romantic subplot between the protagonist and Ayumi, but she's not the main point of the games.

I do wish they were rereleasing the Nintendo Power remake [nintendo.co.jp] of the second one instead of the original Famicom Disk System version, though; when they already have remastered graphics and music in an appropriate form for the GBA, it's a real pity they're not going to use them.

up to $15 (1)

butane_bob2003 (632007) | more than 10 years ago | (#9645888)

5 per game would be good, 10 would be marginally acceptable, $15 would be the maximum. Now, if only I could take the train to work instead of driving, I might have some time to play them.

ICE CLIMBERS (1)

Pichud (219861) | more than 10 years ago | (#9655774)

does anyone like Ice climbers as much as I do? It's sweet.
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