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Video and Software Downloads Overtaking Music

michael posted more than 9 years ago | from the leaching-for-fun-and-profit dept.

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Trigun writes "The Seattle Post-Intelligencer is reporting that movie and software downloads have outpaced music downloads. Music accounted for 48.6 percent of files shared online, compared with 62.5 percent in 2002, according to a report by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development. The article says that 1 in 4 internet users have downloaded at least one movie, and attributes the proliferation to access to broadband. Maybe we've just downloaded all the good music already?"

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Global coverage (4, Insightful)

SIGALRM (784769) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657256)

Across the OECD's 30 industrialized member countries, music accounted for 48.6 percent of files shared online, compared with 62.5 percent in 2002, according to excerpts of the report seen by The Associated Press.
Interesting. I wonder if the fact that Hollywood tends to distribute movies in the US first--coupled with the storm of global entertainment coverage--contributes to this? If I lived in Germany, for example, awaiting the release of Spider-Man 2 [imdb.com] I might want to see what all the hype was about and download the movie.

Re:Global coverage (1)

Mind Booster Noori (772408) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657286)

That explains why people download movies, not why do they do it MORE then in the past, and MORE then music. I tend to agree with the author, when he says that's because of broadband.

Re:Global coverage (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9657304)

If I lived in Germany, for example

Yeah, and I lived in Germany for awhile, a lot of Germans speak English and could understand an English movie, much more than in the US could understand a German movie.

Re:Global coverage (1)

strictnein (318940) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657459)

oh come on now... for instance... DAS BOOT means "The FART OF FARTS! I EAT PEPSI AND PEE COKE!"

Re:Global coverage (4, Insightful)

Dark Kenshin (764678) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657346)

Actually, I think this is due to the fact that the recent quality of music being released isn't that high. This gives movies and programs more focus for people to spend time downloading.

But that's just my opinion, so whatever ...

Re:Global coverage (4, Insightful)

DrEldarion (114072) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657439)

I'd attribute it more to the combination of more people getting broadband (they can now download huge files in a matter of hours), many legal threats (while the RIAA lawsuits may not have affected downloading, I'm sure many people don't share as much music anymore), and a bunch of legal MP3 download services popping up (if people are buying them legally, there's no point in sharing them on P2P networks).

Remember, just because YOU don't like the music they put out nowadays doesn't mean that there aren't hundreds of millions of people who do.

Re:Global coverage (4, Interesting)

WatertonMan (550706) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657399)

I honestly wonder how they calculate this? I daresay that the majority of people using P2P networks share their music shares which probably are around 1000 files or more. I just have a hard time seeing that most are sharing that many movies and pieces of software. i.e. those sharing movies almost certainly are also sharing songs.

What I suspect they did is just scanned for not music files. They then end up with all these small files - sometimes the content of you system directory - that dumbnits share or people trying to get a certain GB shared limit share. Yet if they count each .ini file and other such thing as a different software file, of course the number of files will outnumber music. But is that a real accurate count of movies and software shared?

i.e. shouldn't they count software packages and movies shared rather than *files* shared?

Perhaps they aren't making this mistake. But given their statistics something just smells fishy. I'd like to see their methadology.

Re:Global coverage (3, Insightful)

superpulpsicle (533373) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657515)

Man I so agree. The numbers aren't that obvious. You download a movie, it's 600 megs. It messed up at 300 megs. You recontinued to P2P session, does that count as 2 files now?

It's goes on and on. I can't stand research like this anymore. They are just giving organizations like RIAA fuel to sue by miscalculating left and right.

Bah (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9657260)

They probably calculated it by megabytes.

Cameron Diaz (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9657356)

Could this [news.com.au] be the reason?

Re:Cameron Diaz (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9657445)

Sweet!

For a screenshot, this for-pay site [scandal-inc.com] is letting people download it; but I'm not sure it's worth that much.

If only downloading such movies for free was legal we could see it too...

Re:Bah (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9657482)

eat dick fagot you are teh worst poster ever

lots of people... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9657264)

lots of people try for first post... but not me.

its faster.. (5, Insightful)

cRueLio (679516) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657271)

its faster and easier for me to DL a movie off of IRC than to haul my ass to the movie theatre, stand in line, and sit cramped in a shitty chair with no elbow room next to some annoying little kids. i just dl from irc, burn on a cdrw (vcd/svcd) pop it in the vcd player and watch it.

Re:its faster.. (3, Insightful)

vxvxvxvx (745287) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657302)

Sure, but when you go to a movie theater

  • The screen doesn't shake
  • The audio doesn't remind you of AM talk
  • You can actually see who is talking rather than "the white blob"
  • Your girlfriend doesn't leave 10 minutes in after calling you a loser

All in all, I'd go to the theater.

Re:its faster.. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9657333)

if any of my girlfriends ever called me a loser, that bitch would get a black eye. KA-POW! i love kicking the shit out of girls - it's awesome.

oh, by the way - nice UID - did you just hear about slashdot yesterday? you must be 12, you faggot. go have some more sex with your dad you fucking douchebag

Re:its faster.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9657334)

Your girlfriend doesn't leave 10 minutes in after calling you a loser
Oh, so very Slashdot.

Re:its faster.. (1)

aacool (700143) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657371)

Try downloading a telesync or KVCD or DVD-RIP then. The picture quality of some is pretty awesome. Camgrabs are to be stayed away from

At least you don't have to deal with ringing phones, gumwads and overly tall people front of you.

Try leaving a theater 10 mins into a chickflick with the girlfriend all wrapped up in it.

Love the immersive experience of a theater though

Re:its faster.. (2, Insightful)

jefe7777 (411081) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657428)

i've downloaded my share of dvd rips, so problems 1,2 & 3 are non-existent in those cases. i won't watch cams for the reasons you outlined.

still, the cinema is an enjoyable experience, imo.

if it didn't cost nearly $10 a ticket and $4 for a box of candy, I'd probably go more often.

Re:its faster.. (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9657539)

LOL dude the DVD of Shrek2 is on alt.binaries.dvdr in widescreen and fullscreen and the video is absolutely pristine with dolby 5.1 sound.... generally movies are of great quality lately, and some are totally superb.

Re:its faster.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9657348)

its faster and easier for me to DL a movie off of IRC than to haul my ass to the movie theatre, stand in line, and sit cramped in a shitty chair with no elbow room next to some annoying little kids. i just dl from irc, burn on a cdrw (vcd/svcd) pop it in the vcd player and watch it.
No elbow room next to little kids? You must be one of those people who the airlines force to buy 2 seats because of your 'girth.' So let's be honest: you don't go to the movies because children run screaming from your blobbiness. Quit making excuses for why you break the law, since you just sound like a lamer.

Re:its faster.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9657354)

I agree, why sit in a shitty non-reclining chair that proabably does not even compare to a lazyboy or a nice sofa. Plus you dont have some retards head in the middle of your view so this way u have no ppls heads to smack.
And as far is software goes, why should we be paying M$ for their crappy produstcs, they shuld be paying us for them cuz they dont even work 100%, and linux is free and works way better then windows IMO.

Re:its faster.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9657413)

I agree, why sit in a shitty non-reclining chair that proabably does not even compare to a lazyboy or a nice sofa. Plus you dont have some retards head in the middle of your view so this way u have no ppls heads to smack.
And as far is software goes, why should we be paying M$ for their crappy produstcs, they shuld be paying us for them cuz they dont even work 100%, and linux is free and works way better then windows IMO.


+5 funny. I'd say +4, but 'produstcs' and 'no ppls heads to smack' really give it that extra boost to +5.

Re:its faster.. (1)

joggle (594025) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657558)

Or you could be patient and rent the DVD when it comes out. If the McDonald's DVD rental thing takes off that would only cost $1 per day even for a new release (currently, that's the only ones they're stocked with).

Its the RIAAs secret plan (5, Funny)

AuMatar (183847) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657273)

Keep coming out with music so shitty noone wants to download it! And its working already!

On a serious note- do they separate legal from illegal downloads? Lots of movies/software is legal to download.

Re:Its the RIAAs secret plan (2, Insightful)

offpath3 (604739) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657552)

On a serious note- do they separate legal from illegal downloads? Lots of movies/software is legal to download.

Seriously. Because if they're measuring bytes transfered, I've downloaded much more legal software (Linux ISOs) from bittorrent than I've downloaded music from anywhere in quite a long time.

What do they call movies (3, Insightful)

Mik3D (792355) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657274)

Sure if you include Quicktime trailers, and short films. But I seriously doubt 1 in 4 have downloaded a feature film... cause guess what, no where near 1 in 4 users has broadband

Re:What do they call movies (1)

wpiman (739077) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657306)

1 in 4 downloaded short p0rn videos is more likely. 80% of those did so at 28.8. "Good things cum to those who wait" they always say

Re:What do they call movies (1)

ResidntGeek (772730) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657321)

Frick dude, I've downloaded feature films, and I'm on dialup. It's much less difficult than waiting for, say, Austin Powers to come to video after it's left the theaters.

Re:What do they call movies (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9657368)

It's much less difficult than waiting for, say, Austin Powers to come to video


Austin Powers has come to VIDEO???!
OMFG WTF... where do I get it??

Their Percentages Are Totally Off (2)

Pavan_Gupta (624567) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657342)

A Full Feature Movie is around .. let's say .. ~500 megs. (yes, it can be bigger and smaller.)

A full length song is around .. hmm .. ~5 megs. (again, variance possible.)

That means, everytime a Movie is downloaded, the equivalent of 100 songs would be required to make up for that bandwidth usage.

So, basically, I'm saying per copyright violation (or not sometimes), that music is far more highly pirated.

market penetration (2, Informative)

jpnews (647965) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657350)

"...no where near 1 in 4 users has broadband."

Broadband market penetration in the U.S. is over 40%.

Re:market penetration (2, Funny)

slungsolow (722380) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657442)

Don't forget about AOL 9.0 Optimized. You can surf up the 5 times faster at no additional charge.

Re:market penetration (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9657524)

However, to save you from having to RTFA, since you obviously didn't, the report talks about 1 in 4 users WORLDWIDE, not just the USA. But, was a good try anyway.

Of course... (5, Funny)

UnixRawks (705739) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657275)

Pr0n baby pr0n. It's much better than pr0ngroove mp3's.

Re:Of course... (4, Informative)

Mind Booster Noori (772408) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657336)

I don't really know what was your intention when you posted this, but I've seen this moderated as Score:0 and Score:2...

You have a point here: probably the most kind of downloaded "movies" (which I suppose they call to everything with certain extensions, like .avi, .mpeg, ...) is porn, and with the expansion of p2p file-sharing networks and broadband, more and more people probably download porn stuff there, I even imagine lot's of teens using p2p software only for that purpose...

Re:Of course... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9657385)

"I even imagine lot's of teens using p2p software only for that purpose..."

heck, I can imagine a lot of adults using computers only for that purpose.

(including an x-co-worker with ihs office computer)

Same old story (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9657282)

Just another round of MP/RI-AA trying to make the money they're used to. Trying to push for government regulation, infringing on our rights as citizens.

All empires crumble, why won't they accept it?

Maybe if by size... (5, Interesting)

Xshare (762241) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657293)

Are they counting by size of file? Or maybe they are including all the .r00, .r01, .r02 files as SEPERATE files, but I don't see this as completely right.

A probable cause (1)

slungsolow (722380) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657296)

It may have to do with people enjoying the movie after seeing it once and not wanting to go and pay for it again. It may also have to do with the fact that wanting to see Gigli in the theaters was pretty damn embarassing for the millions of J-Lo fans out there.

RIAA spin (5, Insightful)

carlos_benj (140796) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657297)

Great. I'm sure RIAA will see this as vindication of their sue the customer policies. "See, they've moved on to other media since we started..."

back in the day... (1)

graveyardduckx (735761) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657300)

I remember downloading a full-length movie once on a dialup connection. It took about a week and a half of DCC-resumes from some IRC channel on DALnet. While I thought it was awesome that I was downloading the movie, I didn't think it was awesome whenever I finished the download and found out it was another movie that just had the file renamed... damn Ron Jeremy has a hairy ass...

Re:back in the day... (1)

aacool (700143) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657419)

A better approach is bittorrent through Suprnova [suprnove.org]

Auto-resume, throttled speed, no leech benefits, etc.

Of course, no one downloads copyright violations that way do they?;)

Surprise, surprise... (4, Insightful)

stienman (51024) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657303)

What the RIAA is doing is having a chilling effect on online music trading, like it or not. I don't think the MPAA will have any recourse but to pursue the same tactics, but with much larger penalties.

It would be nice to see the full stats, though, to see if music has plateaued (as would be expected) while movies climb as broadband proliferates.
br. -Adam

Re:Surprise, surprise... (3, Interesting)

Mind Booster Noori (772408) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657396)

What the RIAA is doing is having a chilling effect on online music trading, like it or not.
Of course is having: lot's of people (including me) are buying LESS CD's because some of them are with copy protections that doesn't let people play them on their CD players.

Wow, nice move.

Re:Surprise, surprise... (2, Interesting)

PhoenixFlare (319467) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657481)

"What the RIAA is doing is having a chilling effect on online music trading, like it or not. I don't think the MPAA will have any recourse but to pursue the same tactics, but with much larger penalties."

Only partially correct. I believe it is having a chilling effect (maybe) on trading of music produced by RIAA members or that would otherwise get you in trouble with the RIAA if caught.

Conversely, in some areas, such as ( to use a rather geeky example ) anime and video game soundtracks, music is easily found with a bit of work and people are more than willing to share vast quantities.

Number of files or size? (1, Redundant)

Colonel Sponsz (768423) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657310)

So, are they talking about the total number of files swapped or the total size of them? I suspect the latter, and in that case it's no big surprise: One ripped movie shared - ~700 MB. One ripped CD shared - 70 MB.

MPAA not exactly impartial (5, Interesting)

NachoDaddy (696255) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657314)

A separate global study published Thursday by the Motion Pictures Association found that about one in four Internet users had already downloaded a movie. Most said they would pirate more if they took less time to download.

The problem is right there.

oh the humanity! (5, Insightful)

kgarcia (93122) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657315)

*sigh* So, one in four internet users worldwide have downloaded movies online.

oh wait, no it was only in Eight Countires...

oh, and only broadband users were polled.

ooh! and I almost forgot, of those that answered, one in four said they had downloaded at least one (YES, ONE) movie...

nothing to see here... just FUD and paranoia...

SOFTWARE downloads? (2, Insightful)

grm_wnr (781219) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657319)

Video and software downloads? Looks we're back to the roots here.

From the article:

experts say the vast majority of file swaps are still unauthorized.


Well, isn't that a defining feature of file swaps? Swapping copyrighted files (as opposed to just downloading them, which can be legal or illegal) has always been illegal.

i never did understand p2p for LEGIT downloads.. (1)

adamgeek (771380) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657384)

i'm seeing an increase in the number of legit software dist's available via BT, etc. i mean, why does mozilla need to make the 1.7 RC available on BT [mozilla.org] ?? Especially a lot of releases that already have mirrors on half a dozen servers internationally.

Re:i never did understand p2p for LEGIT downloads. (1)

slungsolow (722380) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657411)

Because it helps to decrease bandwidth usage and server load. Which in turn saves them (and their partners who mirror the download) money.

Re:SOFTWARE downloads? (1)

octothorpe99 (34654) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657498)

Well, technically, you could swap a file to which you hold the copyright and then its not illegal anymore :)

Re:SOFTWARE downloads? (1)

Kozar_The_Malignant (738483) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657523)

> Video and software downloads? Looks we're back to the roots here.

Yep, it's 2004, and the Seattle Post-Intelligencer has discovered that there are Warez D00dz. How amazing.

I though... (1)

Kjuib (584451) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657322)

that hollywood sent out Night-Vision Goggles to stop this... yet it seems to be growing more than ever... who would have thought it? (definite sarcasm)

Sales down because of bad customers or bad music? (3, Interesting)

mroch (715318) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657325)

In my opinion, if CD sales are in fact down (hard to tell), it's due to the lack of good music rather than file sharing. I don't buy CDs anymore, but that's not because I can download everything. It's because everything out now sucks. Like the post said, maybe we have all the good music already... If the record companies spent their money making really good music like they used to, rather than their new tactic of suing their customers, I'm sure CD sales would go back up.

Re:Sales down because of bad customers or bad musi (1)

Pidder (736678) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657490)

In my opinion, if CD sales are in fact down (hard to tell), it's due to the lack of good music rather than file sharing. I don't buy CDs anymore, but that's not because I can download everything. It's because everything out now sucks. Like the post said, maybe we have all the good music already... If the record companies spent their money making really good music like they used to, rather than their new tactic of suing their customers, I'm sure CD sales would go back up.

I see posts like this in every thread about downloading music. In every single one, without fail. And when I see one of these thread I think about all the great new music I listen to and discover every week. Great music is being released every day. By companies within the RIAA (yes even the RIAA releases good music, OH THE HORROR, but since it's released by the RIAA it must suck, right?) and by indie labels.

Could it be that you aren't really that interested in discovering new music anymore? Could it be that you don't care enough to make an effort? Everyone complains that they only hear crap music on the radio and on MTV but they still don't make an effort to find the gems out there, and they are there, trust me.

3.141 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9657326)

Poor movie industry.

Perhaps if there were more mass release movies that weren't money grabs I'd not download them, but instead support them by paying for a ticket.

I've bought Amelie, for example. It wasn't playing localy, so I downloaded it and then, since I liked it, bought it. Had it been playing locally I would have gone to see it.

On another note, what if someone did an iTunes type thing, but with movies...

Propaganda! (1)

c0ldfusi0n (736058) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657327)

Additionnally, the MPAA has published a paper [mpaa.org] (PDF, 2 pages) titled "Protecting the Movie Magic in the Digital Age" that is basically what they have been up to (or at least parts of it) which you just might want to read. If anyone needs me i'll be watching King Arthur.

Oh wow!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9657337)

and... I'm Shocked! I just can't believe it... tisk tisk tisk. :p

Music down by volume or percentage? (3, Interesting)

DdJ (10790) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657359)

Is music swapping down by actual volume, or just by percentage? That is, are people swapping less music, or did video/software swapping just grow faster than music swapping did?

If music swapping is actually down, could it be because there are viable legit music download services now? I know I've bought multiple albums from both iTMS and Audi Lunchbox myself...

Re:Music down by volume or percentage? (1)

slungsolow (722380) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657388)

Damn good point.. iTMS does have a pretty good saturation at this point. Perhaps it has contributed to the decline of illegal music files.

In-theater cameras (1)

Satertek (708058) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657360)

I downloaded an in-theater camera movie once, but never again. The quality was so horrible i couldn't understand why anyone would even want it. DVD rips on the other hand... >:D

Re:In-theater cameras (2, Informative)

MachDelta (704883) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657437)

Cams are hit and miss. Theres at least one cam (telesync actually) floating around out there of Spiderman 2 that is VERY good quality. No jitter, no people standing up, etc. Its awesome. I also found a cam of The Girl Next Door that was really really good. Cept theres a part where the cam gets bumped and the picture is tilted for a few seconds while the guy fixes it :P. But thats what you get for fast and free.

There are a lot of really shitass cams out there too though. Like I said, its hit and miss. I find cams are most useful for those movies that i'm kind of interested in, but don't feel like blowing $20 to go see in the theatres. If its a really good movie, then yeah, I might go see it with some friends or something. If it sucks, all i've wasted is two hours and some bandwidth. :)

I download videos... (2, Informative)

ejaw5 (570071) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657370)

fansub Anime! Find a good one like Naruto and Full Metal Alchemist (although FMA recently got licensed) and you're set.

Better than the Primetime crap that comes on broadcast tv...

No shock (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9657376)

Get off your high horse, Software piracy and porn date back to the dawn of the public internet, riaa buy a clue get the F*CK in line with all the other whiners and copyright ball bags, you aint anything special.

once again (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9657378)

I guess avi killed the mp3 star...

This is jacked in so many ways (5, Insightful)

Unnngh! (731758) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657389)

Seriously, this is the most poorly written article I have ever read. Check out these gems:

Video accounted for 27 percent, up from 25.2 percent, the study will say.

So, movie downloads didn't really increase much.

The OECD report does not give separate numbers for pirated downloads and those that do not infringe copyright

I'm not even going to start on this one.

The biggest growth in downloading last year was in "other files" - neither music nor film - which almost doubled their share to about a quarter of all downloads. The category includes software and pornography, but the report gives no breakdown between the two.

Basically, they're saying they have a lot of data and it seems to indicate something, but they can't really say what, so they just threw out some numbers. Nice work, OECD.

1 in 4 isn't believable (0, Redundant)

richmaine (128733) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657392)

Come on. I forget the stats on broadband, but I didn't think 1 in 4 even had broadband yet. Could look it up, but don't have time right now. Certainly can't be much more than that, particularly in the U.S.

And I'm not going to believe that *ALL* of the broadband users have downloaded movies. (I haven't :-)).

I'm also not going to believe that a noticable
fraction of dialup users have.

Let's see... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9657406)

Movies
1. Paris Hilton, does it with night vision.

I really wonder about acuracy (2, Insightful)

Omega1045 (584264) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657407)

With all of the various companies/qualities/methods to connect, I really wonder about the quality of such a survey. I would seem to me that these numbers seem rediculous. When I think of all the non-nerd (non-broadband) people I know, I don't think one of them has ever downloaded a movie.

Decline of Morals (2, Insightful)

feilkin (790260) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657414)

Personally, I think it all can be attributed to a visible decline in society's moral standards. When music first became availible online, most people did not hesitate to download it because for the most part, it is guilt and worry free. Until there is some sort of legal safeguard put in place that will cause people to think about voliating copyrights, the numbers of people downloading will continue to rise. In real life, people will think twice before stealing from a store because there is a known punishment for being caught (and even this is happening more). Fileswapping doesn't have such rigid rules and regulations, or at least it's hard to enforce them online. Not to mention that industries trying to enforce them currently are going about the wrong way in the first place. Think about it though, my sister who is middle school is downloading movies. I think that it shows either lack of education about what can/cannot be done online legally, or simply not caring about those laws either way.

Re:Decline of Morals (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9657488)

Man, you're talking some crap. As you ID number shows, you're nothing more that some sad fscker.

Legal Music Downloads (1)

Noksagt (69097) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657417)

I wonder what happens to these numbers if you include iTunes Music Store and other legal music purchases. These services have been pretty successful. Maybe this report adds to a case for implementing slick infoware from which to download media at reasonable prices. Current video and software on demand is nowhere near as inexpensive and well-put-together as the music on demand.

1 in 4 internet users? (2, Interesting)

PineHall (206441) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657418)

Maybe I am not in the know, but I don't know a single person that has downloaded a movie. And considering the majority of Americans have dialup, I find this hard to believe. (I can't say about other countries, but I suspect for most countries that holds true.) It would take a long time on dialup to download a movie. It just does not make sense.

I wonder.. (3, Interesting)

RyLaN (608672) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657432)

I wonder if they're measuring traffic from Debian's apt mirrors, RedHat's up2date, Gentoo's emerge... I know that just between the 4 Debian systems I run there can be anywhere from 100-300 megabytes of updates per week. Granted, one is stable, two are testing and one is unstable. But still, I can't think of a week that I've *ever* downloaded 300 megs of music. Most software packages are much, much larger than even an entire album, so this doesn't surprise me at all.

What we need is... (1)

mcr2002 (603213) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657444)

iMovies. Somewhere to download movies to burn to disk, kvcd would be ok for this. How long before the MPAA wake up and realise this? Apple could tie their DRM in with a system like bittorrent to assist with bandwidth issues, maybe even if you contribute enough bandwidth you get a discount?

Re:What we need is... (1)

Satertek (708058) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657460)

Problem with that is, with music, alot of people only want 1 song on a CD. So they buy it from a place like iTunes. Movies however, theres only one, so I would think that buying a DVD of it would be much easier.

PORN (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9657446)

I'm sure Porn accounts for atleast half of the video downloads on the Internet. Or maybe 75%? Who knows.

I do know that it accounts for about 90% of my video downloads.

What I would be interested to see (1)

mcc (14761) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657449)

Is some figures that would indicate whether there has been a de-emphasizing, either in pure numbers or in percentage of overall pirate traffic, of music piracy corresponding with the rise of pay-to-download music services such as the iTunes Music Store or Napster2...

Downloads (2, Informative)

locarecords.com (601843) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657464)

This is propaganda by the movie industry - plain and simple. Expect some legislation, hard words from politicians and poor starving movie execs to start bleating on about how hard their lives and the company profits are. This is the first salvo in a public relations drive that softens up the public ready for DRM for the movie masses.

No doubt some high profile ridiculous case will be discovered of a student with a trillion dollars in film copies in his/her bedroom causing the entire movie industry to fail. We've seen it before in music and we'll no doubt see the same arguments and PR tactics mobilised again to get legislation passed to *save* the industry.

It is depressing but it seems to work everytime. I only hope that people start to wake up and take a stand before its too late and the corporations have it all locked down exactly how they want it...

I call bullshit. (1)

mcgroarty (633843) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657469)

The article doesn't explain enough about how they came up with their figures.

As I see it, the difference is that more and more music trading has been pushed underground on encrypted networks and the likes, whereas you can still Google up movie and software torrents left and right. By design, even if you're part of many of the music sharing networks, you can't tell how many others are around, and can't get raw index lists of files to count.

If they're counting the people caught, the above still holds. Music swapping is more mature, and so it's tougher to catch folks.

downloads cause increased sales! proven! (1)

fermion (181285) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657479)

Or is it a coincidence that record downloaded coincides with record ticket and DVD sales.?

The Seattle Post *isn't* reporting (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9657483)

The Associated Press is reporting. The Seattle Post is just regurgitating the wire service.

So many papers are 90% commercial press corps content that Slash and similar may as well differentiate and learn to link to Associated Press directly for these stories.

Reward the papers with more visitors when they have local unique content. More ad impressions might encourage them to start putting their focus on real reporting again.

Bittorrent Linux ISOs (1)

Satertek (708058) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657484)

Bittorrent has become very popular for ditributing Linux ISOs, its possible they are including them in their statistics...

Re:Bittorrent Linux ISOs (1)

Satertek (708058) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657502)

There are TERRABYTES of data transferred by bittorrent at sites like "The Linux Mirror Project"

http://www.tlm-project.org/

funny thing is.... (5, Funny)

thegoogler (792786) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657485)

my MOTHER got me started on downloading movies, she said "o is that new denzel washington movie, ya the the man on fire one out yet?" and i said no. so then she said "well i one of my friends said there kids are downloading movies, you have whatchamacallit broadband couldnt you do that" she pestered me untill i burned her a vcd. good job mom. set an example, on how to GET ME IN JAIL!

Can accuracy be downloaded? (1)

NeuroManson (214835) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657495)

For one, they didn't exactly verify the types of movies downloaded, whether the copies were incomplete/corrupted, or whether said movies were correctly titled.

As far as I know, people looking for a good DVD rip or screener will download multiple copies. Also, they'll have to download multiple copies if they find that copy of Spider-Man 2 turns out to be a fake.

So what we need to do then is ... (1)

hurfy (735314) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657516)

to download more and more copies of linux distros til music and movies are a tiny percentage of downloads ;)

Video includes all the TV shows (1)

sideshow (99249) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657520)

I don't have a TV so if I want to watch a TV I download it. The majority of TV never comes out on DVD and if it does it sure as hell doesn't come out the same week the show aired.

True at my university - judging by DMCA (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#9657543)

I can't say anything about the number of downloads, but at my university the number of DMCA complaints (by copyright holders) about movies and TV shows has outnumbered the complaints about music files for a year or more.

I don't believe it (1)

snStarter (212765) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657562)

I find this difficult to believe. It means that just about everyone with broadband has downloaded movies. I guess I'm just a stick-in-the-mud but I haven't and no one I have asked has either.

I think they are pushing the stats to make the situation look worse than it is. By a LOT.

Not that I like people stealing movies, cause I don't. I doubt if any person in a creative art that can be ripped off is much in favor of having their work used and not compensate them for it. Not if they make a living that way.

25.2 percent to 27 percent is a major increase? (1)

Pantero Blanco (792776) | more than 9 years ago | (#9657574)

"Video accounted for 27 percent, up from 25.2 percent, the study will say."

Okay, the 62.5 to 48.6 percent drop for music files was sizable, but video doesn't seem to have increased much at all.

Shouldn't the title say "documents and software overtaking music downloads"? That's the only thing that could be making up the difference. Shoot, it even says that in the last paragraph of the article.
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