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I know (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9660076)

Who is responsible for Dashboard? Why Gary Niger [www.gnaa.us] or course!

Slashdotted: text of article (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9660117)

GNAA Announces Victory over Apple Community

San Francisco, California - Just three days after being the first in the world to leak photos of Apple's upcoming revision to MacOS X, version 10.4, Steve Jobs announced to the world facts about the new Operating System consistent with information leaked by elite GNAA operator Gary Niger and prospective member Ron Delsner.

"We've pulled it off!", noted Niger during Jobs' announcement at Apple's Worldwide Developers Conference. "The GNAA plan was clever from the start with this one I think. When we received our leaked copy of the OS, we knew that by releasing only partial information and some screenshots, the association people would make with the GNAA would lead them to believe the screenshots were fake. Now that Steve 'Rim' Jobs has verified everything we leaked, we have managed to fool the entire Mac community. In essense, a few hundred thousand people have been trolled, a few hundred thousand people have lost. Though I do wish they have a nice day"

"I don't think it could have worked out any better; Every single one of the features shown in our screenshots, particularly Dashboard, which everybody called as fake, was demoed by Jobs. This is my revenge for being beat up on the rent", quoted Ron Delsner on being approached by reporters. "I've been wanting to join the Gay Nigger Association of America for quite some time, and knew that I help pull off something big if they were to let me in."

Delsner was right, as upon hearing this, Gary Niger immediately produced a vial of what he called the "Holy Gay Nigger Seed" from his front pocket, and asked Ron to kneel, at which time the Seed was poured upon Ron's head, making him an official member of the GNAA. Noticing the television cameras present in the press room, Gary cited that this was in fact the first televised induction of a member into the GNAA.

"But back to the troll", Niger said quickly after. "I had a sneaking suspicion that the homosexual caucasians of the Mac community would feel threatened by the GNAA's massive nigger cocks and immediately cast doubts upon any screenshots we produced for them. I saw this as an opportunity to troll hundreds of thousands of people. It just goes to show that GNAA is greater than j00, and that fristage postage is mine."

And Niger certainly did not fail it, as can be seen from the following excerpts taken from various Internet website's covering the leak:

ThinkSecret.com - "In fact, it was the source that led many users to call the shots fake; the information in that story, as well as this one, was provided by Gary Niger and Ron Delsner of the GNAA, an organization that deals in crapfloods and Slashdot trolling."

AppleInsider.com - "Enjoy the photoshop work. I seriously don't think Apple would be so crazy to use those jargons."

MacRumors.com - "Hmm... Information by "Gary Niger" of GNAA. Sounds too stupid to be true. And that dashboard thing? Hogwash me thinks ..."

MacRumors.com - "I immediately thought of them when I saw "GNAA". Anyone who reads Slashdot would be familiar with them - they put big spam posts everywhere. Yes, and it doesn't surprise me. I don't think the screenshots are real (at least not the Dashboard ones), but I have no trouble believing the PDF."

Kim Kap Sol on AppleInsider.com said "I can guarantee those are fake." He then continued by saying "Hello I R Korea KEKEKEKE OMG ZERG RUSH GOGOGOGO ^_^"

Gary's reply to this was "Way to make a complete idiot of yourself you dog-eating douchebag."

Steve Jobs was unavailable for comment immediately following the keynote address, though WWDC attendee and GNAA member Porfa noticed "A cute wiggle in Jobs' ass as he walked away."

About Apple

Apple Computer is the creator of the Macintosh, popularly known as the "gay computer". 87% of GNAA members are Mac users. Founded in 1974 by Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak, Apple was nearly out of business in the mid 90's, when Jobs was rehired. He then started the now infamous iGay marketing scheme which involved both the Step 2 ???? Profit model, and a 100% effort towards marketing towards homosexuals.


About GNAA:
GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the first organization which gathers GAY NIGGERS from all over America and abroad for one common goal - being GAY NIGGERS.

Are you GAY [klerck.org] ?
Are you a NIGGER [mugshots.org] ?
Are you a GAY NIGGER [gay-sex-access.com] ?

If you answered "Yes" to all of the above questions, then GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) might be exactly what you've been looking for!
Join GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) today, and enjoy all the benefits of being a full-time GNAA member.
GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the fastest-growing GAY NIGGER community with THOUSANDS of members all over United States of America and the World! You, too, can be a part of GNAA if you join today!

Why not? It's quick and easy - only 3 simple steps!
  • First, you have to obtain a copy of GAYNIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE THE MOVIE [imdb.com] and watch it. You can download the movie [idge.net] (~130mb) using BitTorrent.
  • Second, you need to succeed in posting a GNAA First Post [wikipedia.org] on slashdot.org [slashdot.org] , a popular "news for trolls" website.
  • Third, you need to join the official GNAA irc channel #GNAA on irc.gnaa.us, and apply for membership.
Talk to one of the ops or any of the other members in the channel to sign up today! Upon submitting your application, you will be required to submit links to your successful First Post, and you will be tested on your knowledge of GAYNIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE.

If you are having trouble locating #GNAA, the official GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA irc channel, you might be on a wrong irc network. The correct network is NiggerNET, and you can connect to irc.gnaa.us as our official server. Follow this link [irc] if you are using an irc client such as mIRC.
clicking here.
-->

If you have mod points and would like to support GNAA, please moderate this post up.

.________________________________________________.
| ______________________________________._a,____ | Press contact:
| _______a_._______a_______aj#0s_____aWY!400.___ | Gary Niger
| __ad#7!!*P____a.d#0a____#!-_#0i___.#!__W#0#___ | gary_niger@gnaa.us [mailto]
| _j#'_.00#,___4#dP_"#,__j#,__0#Wi___*00P!_"#L,_ | GNAA Corporate Headquarters
| _"#ga#9!01___"#01__40,_"4Lj#!_4#g_________"01_ | 143 Rolloffle Avenue
| ________"#,___*@`__-N#____`___-!^_____________ | Tarzana, California 91356
| _________#1__________?________________________ |
| _________j1___________________________________ | All other inquiries:
| ____a,___jk_GAY_NIGGER_ASSOCIATION_OF_AMERICA_ | Enid TBD
| ____!4yaa#l___________________________________ | enid_tbd@gnaa.us [mailto]
| ______-"!^____________________________________ | GNAA World Headquarters
` _______________________________________________' 160-0023 Japan Tokyo-to Shinjuku-ku Nishi-Shinjuku 3-20-2

Copyright (c) 2003-2004 GNAA [www.gnaa.us]

About GNAA: (-1, Troll)

ProtoCat (452381) | about 10 years ago | (#9660077)

GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the first organization which
gathers GAY NIGGERS from all over America and abroad for one common goal - being GAY NIGGERS.

Are you GAY?
Are you a NIGGER?
Are you a GAY NIGGER?

If you answered "Yes" to all of the above questions, then GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) might be exactly what you've been looking for!
Join GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) today, and enjoy all the benefits of being a full-time GNAA member.
GNAA (GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA) is the fastest-growing GAY NIGGER community with THOUSANDS of members all over United States of America. You, too, can be a part of GNAA if you join today!

Why not? It's quick and easy - only 3 simple steps!

First, you have to obtain a copy of GAY NIGGERS FROM OUTER SPACE THE MOVIE and watch it. (You can download the movie (~280mb) using BitTorrent, by clicking here.
Second, you need to succeed in posting a GNAA "first post" on slashdot.org, a popular "news for trolls" website
Third, you need to join the official GNAA irc channel #GNAA on irc.gnaa.us, and apply for membership.
Talk to one of the ops or any of the other members in the channel to sign up today!

If you are having trouble locating #GNAA, the official GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA irc channel, you might be on a wrong irc network. The correct network is Niggernet, and you can connect to irc.gnaa.us as our official server. If you do not have an IRC client handy, you are free to use the GNAA Java IRC client by clicking here.

If you have mod points and would like to support GNAA, please moderate GNAA posts up.

Copyright (c) 2004 Ga

Re:About GNAA: (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9660096)

Oh you so fail it, and you just lost a shitload of karma, and are $RTBLed too. I can't stop laffing.

Re:About GNAA: (-1, Offtopic)

ProtoCat (452381) | about 10 years ago | (#9660166)

You care too much about slashdot.

Another Meaning (5, Informative)

Angry Monkey (306817) | about 10 years ago | (#9660110)

An 'Alan Smithee' directed film also refers to a film that turned out so bad the director demanded the removal of his name (instead of having it taken away from him, as the IMDB quote in the article states).

Example: the theatrical "Dune" movie was originally a David Lynch film, but subsequent prints bear the Smithee label.

Fun fact: "Alan Smithee" is an anagram of 'i.e., the alias man.'

Implication in context: rather than implying that Dashboard is so bad Apple took the project from its director, perhaps it means the project director doesn't want his name associated with it. Go Woz!

Re:Another Meaning (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9660133)

Steve Jobs had his name removed, because he's the maker of Konfabulator. Who then decided to bitch that apple was "stealing" his product.

Re:Another Meaning (-1)

YouHaveSnail (202852) | about 10 years ago | (#9660841)

Fun fact: "Alan Smithee" is an anagram of 'i.e., the alias man.'

Um, no it's not. Count the i's in each.

Re:Another Meaning (1)

oldosadmin (759103) | about 10 years ago | (#9661062)

Fun fact: "Alan Smithee" is an anagram of 'i.e., the alias man.'

Um, no it's not. Count the i's in each.
alan smithee --- the alias man.

Someone break out the -1 Dumb mod, please.

Re:Another Meaning (1)

Wolfkin (17910) | about 10 years ago | (#9662268)

Your parent post was clearly a joke aimed at the person who put "i.e., " in the quotes.

Now, don't you feel better? :)

Re:Another Meaning (1)

YouHaveSnail (202852) | about 10 years ago | (#9673840)

You need the 'i.e.' in order to have enough e's. Besides, if it's not supposed to be part of the anagram, what the hell is it doing there at all? It makes no sense. However, that makes too many i's, which was my original point: 'i.e. the alias man' is NOT an anagram of 'alan smithee' as the OP asserted.

Re:Another Meaning (2, Funny)

YouHaveSnail (202852) | about 10 years ago | (#9663220)

Fun fact: "Alan Smithee" is an anagram of 'i.e., the alias man.'

alan smithee --- the alias man.

It's hard to disagree that the i's there are the same, but you left off the initial 'i.e.' Which doesn't really change anything except the particular letter which doesn't match up. Try counting the e's in your version:

alan smithee --- the alias man.

Someone break out the -1 Dumb mod, please.

Indeed.

Re:Another Meaning (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9672354)

Um, no it's not. Count the i's in each.

Counting... hmm. By my count both the original name and the anagram'd name have exactly one "i".

Without a single finger to count on, how the heck can you type?

One correct anagram for alan smithee is, obviously thee alias man. But who the hell spells "thee" as "thee" anymore? Kind of went out of style around Shakespeares time.

BTW, one of the anagrams for my name is "Phenomenal Cock." I try to live up to it, in every interpretation of the two words.

Re:Another Meaning (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9661055)

You mean "the alias men" not man.

Re:Another Meaning (1)

catwh0re (540371) | about 10 years ago | (#9662693)

Apple's has been making the film industry a target market. Why not use a name from the movie industry?

Apple like playing with names BHA.

Re:Another Meaning (3, Interesting)

FFFish (7567) | about 10 years ago | (#9663459)

Much to my amusement, there's an "Alan Smithee Restaurant" in one of Edmonton's cineplexs... a diner so bad, the chef demanded the removal of his name!

Re:Another Meaning (1)

Pope (17780) | about 10 years ago | (#9666427)

Nope. Only the extended TV version of "Dune" says Alan Smithee, the theatrical-length release on home video still says David Lynch.

Re:Another Meaning (0)

zonker (1158) | about 10 years ago | (#9690258)

well, seeing as how the 'author [slashdot.org] ' of konfabulator confabulated [reference.com] the truth as to who originated the technology, i wouldn't waste too much time thinking about it...

Re:Another Meaning (1)

Saint Fnordius (456567) | about 10 years ago | (#9705207)

If you look at Apple's ad text, you'll notice that they've adopted "Alan Smithee" as their replacement for "John Doe". The whole Apple Works example uses a ficticious Smithee family, and other you can see the name Alan Smithee in screenshots.

The article is spot-on.. (4, Funny)

node 3 (115640) | about 10 years ago | (#9660180)

In the original cut the lead widget and widgetess were supposed to spend their lives apart, in exile, each dying thinking the other betrayed them, not realizing they really disowned the other to save the other's life.

But the studio made them change it so they lived together in a cottage in exile after the King's wife told him she'd leave him childless if he sent them apart forever.

Stupid Hollywood.

(sheesh, the Alan Smithee conspiracy seems a bit far-fetched--if the guy in charge of the project didn't like what he was doing enough to go pseudonymous in a keynote, he has to be either really, really stupid, or hoping to be fired (or Steved, by some peoples' lexicon). My guess is that it's just Apple's new version of "John/Jane Doe").

Re:The article is spot-on.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9662996)

Is this a real movie you're describing? Which one?

This proves nothing (3, Insightful)

Hackie_Chan (678203) | about 10 years ago | (#9660232)

What did the article prove? Nothing. This is in my opinion a waste of space on the Slashdot's first page. Mod me down if you want, but the fact that Apple employees put in a fake name in a demonstration movie is no 'conspiracy'. Have you considered that maybe they just don't want people to peek at real people's profiles/names?

A nice little thing to notice, but using it as proof for the one who designed Dashboard? That's stretching it...

Re:This proves nothing (0, Flamebait)

0x20 (546659) | about 10 years ago | (#9660644)

But... Slashdot only has one page...

Re:This proves nothing (1)

zsmooth (12005) | about 10 years ago | (#9661031)

No it doesn't. Several stories are shown on individual category pages that don't show up on the main page (unless you're logged in and have your preferences set otherwise.)

Re:This proves nothing (3, Informative)

Jord (547813) | about 10 years ago | (#9661096)

This isn't on /.'s first page. Might want to check your preferences. It is in the Apple section where all of the stories about Apple go.

Perhaps you want to go into the BSD section next and complain about one of the stores in there?

Re:This proves nothing (4, Informative)

sakusha (441986) | about 10 years ago | (#9664514)

You're on to something here. Apple has a new rule against easter eggs or other hidden credits containing programmers names. The rationale is that Apple doesn't want to publicly release the names of specific programmers that worked on any specific project, it makes it easier for headhunters to poach critical personnel.

So don't get your panties in a bunch over the smithee pseudonym. Obviously someone got bored creating demo data with the same old names like John Doe and decided to have a little fun.

Is there a new Alan Smithee? (2, Interesting)

CoolGuySteve (264277) | about 10 years ago | (#9660249)

Now that everyone knows, it doesn't really make sense for companies to allow Alan Smithee to be associated with their productions. So what's the new alias? I'm guessing that if there is one, it's David E. Kelly.

Alan Smithee is one of those little pieces of knowledge that people know because it helps make them feel elite, which is weird because everyone knows about it by now. It's like the way mullets were a big joke a while back.

But really, odds are, if you know about it, then it's not hip and you're cool, stop pretending and go listen to some more Weezer.

Re:Is there a new Alan Smithee? (4, Informative)

squiggleslash (241428) | about 10 years ago | (#9660577)

Well, according to Alan Smithee's bio [imdb.com] :
The DGA decided that the name got so much exposure from the film Alan Smithee Film: Burn Hollywood Burn, An (1997) that it was no longer an effective alias; the film Supernova (2000/I) was the first "post-Smithee" film.

riiiight... (5, Insightful)

admiralfrijole (712311) | about 10 years ago | (#9660325)

just because they used a fake name in there instead of using steve's name in there, there's a deeper meaning behind it.

people just seem to want to always find hidden meanings that, most times, aren't there at all.

Re:riiiight... (4, Insightful)

Ford Prefect (8777) | about 10 years ago | (#9662558)

It could always be one of those things known as a 'joke', too.

After all, the calculator in the video demonstration [apple.com] has '1.337' on it!

If there's one nerd in-joke, there's probably more...

Re:riiiight... (3, Interesting)

TravisWatkins (746905) | about 10 years ago | (#9672744)

Heh, it goes deeper. The descryption key for the previews on the iTMS is a l33t version of 'try-before-you-buy'.

Re:riiiight... (1)

Ilgaz (86384) | about 10 years ago | (#9666690)

people in media, even from Istanbul like me, knows what Alan Smithee is

I was consultant for the TV channel for some movie buys at Cannes. We needed USA movies to air at 2 am for some reason, we bought "his" movies. Well he didn't exist of course :) We figured the freaks at 2 am wanted such freaky stuff from mails we got. Well, I watched alien snakefish who speaks with humans at 7 am, this morning, its normal :)

Believe Steve Jobs or Apple knows what that name is.

Dashboard Information (5, Informative)

SandSpider (60727) | about 10 years ago | (#9660418)

Sadly, this article: not so funny. However, since we're talking about Dashboard, I recommend going to Surfin' Safari [mozillazine.org] , the weblog of Dave Hyatt, lead programmer of Safari. Since WWDC, he's been talking about Dashboard, what it really is, and the development path they're taking.

Dashboard is actually going to be a WebKit application, with some HTML Extensions to let you do things like put a transparent mask over the window and call local code. He's discussing putting the HTML extensions into their own default namespace right now, as well as submitting them for standards approval (well, some of them). It's a very interesting weblog, and certainly worth having on the RSS feed if you're at all interested in the development of Safari and webkit.

=Brian

Re:Dashboard Information (3, Interesting)

PierceLabs (549351) | about 10 years ago | (#9661140)

I'm more concerned with whether or not this will be as easily exploitable as Active Desktop which is its closes kin - not Konfabulator.

Re:Dashboard Information (1)

SandSpider (60727) | about 10 years ago | (#9661224)

I don't think it will, but I haven't done complete reading on the subject. Check out the Mozilla Foundation Announcement [mozilla.org] on the new plugin architecture that will be shared between Safari, Opera, etc.

I think that because it's because it's a plugin architecture rather than a dynamically loaded code that the means of exploitation are less. However, poorly designed plugins will likely still be a problem.

=Brian

Re:Dashboard Information (2, Interesting)

NutscrapeSucks (446616) | about 10 years ago | (#9661464)

I think you're confused:
New Plugin Archtecture --> New way of interfacing and running Flash etc.

ActiveDesktop or HTAs --> Local HTML pages can call Local Code, proprietary tags for enhanced functionality.

AFAICT, "Dashboard" seems to be just another take on Windows HTAs from 1997. (Although, the orange calculator was a sexier demo than most of Microsoft's stuff.)

The problem with IE's implementation is that the browser is easly confused between local and remote pages (using iframe tricks, etc). It will be interesting to see how Apple avoids this.

Re:Dashboard Information (3, Interesting)

SandSpider (60727) | about 10 years ago | (#9662276)

Nah, I understand the difference. The reason I bring it up is because it was mentioned explicitly [mozillazine.org] with regards to concerns similar to yours on Surfin' Safari. The point being that the native code is contained in the plugins, rather than just being located arbitrarily on your computer or the internet.

I also suspect that the plugins for Dashboard items will be bundled all together, much as Applications are in OS X, so that other webkit applications can't access random Dashboard plugins. But that's just a guess.

=Brian

Re:Dashboard Information (1)

coolgeek (140561) | about 10 years ago | (#9662650)

All it takes is one buffer overflow in the WebKit JavaScript engine to make this hackable like Active Desktop.

Re:Dashboard Information (2, Informative)

NutscrapeSucks (446616) | about 10 years ago | (#9662939)

The native code in HTAs is also located in "plugins" (COM objects), which are "arbitrarily on your computer". The question is what the security model is going to look like and will it work better than IE's.

Re:Dashboard Information (4, Informative)

Chucker23N (661210) | about 10 years ago | (#9665452)

Dashboard gadgets are indeed bundles with HTML, images, JavaScript, etc. and a plist in them.

Re:Dashboard Information (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9678235)

But zones are the whole problem with IE's implementation. If there was no unrestricted "local" zone then that problem wouldn't exist.

Other Allan Smithee Work (5, Funny)

TubeSteak (669689) | about 10 years ago | (#9660578)

Includes The O.J. Simpson Story (1995).
So maybe there is something going on here.
Apple is innocent...
O.J. is innocent...

:Puts on his flame suit: it's only a joke. i swear!

Re:Other Allan Smithee Work (2, Funny)

commodoresloat (172735) | about 10 years ago | (#9665096)

Check out his OJ Simpson page. It's at http:backslash-backslash-backslash- backslash-backslash-backslash-backslash- backslash-ESCAPE

Worried About Competitor Braindrain? (5, Insightful)

xanderwilson (662093) | about 10 years ago | (#9660729)

Didn't Apple along with a bunch of other software corporations stop putting credits in their software a few years ago, to help prevent large competitors in or around Redmond from paying whatever it took to make ridiculously generous offers for those employees to work for them? Wouldn't it be prudent (if that is their policy) to avoid trumpeting all those people's names as well? What if this person didn't turn in the NDA yet?

Alex.

Re:Worried About Competitor Braindrain? (2, Interesting)

sg3000 (87992) | about 10 years ago | (#9661583)

> Didn't Apple along with a bunch of other software
> corporations stop putting credits in their software a few years
> ago, to help prevent large competitors in or around Redmond
> from paying whatever it took to make ridiculously generous
> offers for those employees to work for them?

I've heard this, too, but I think this might be related to two other facts. First, it's impossible for everyone who is involved in delivering software to have their names included these days. Second, Jobs has mandated that there would be no more developer-endorsed "personalization" to Macintosh applications in order to improve software quality. Most specfically, this seems to be the prohibition of easter eggs (where most developers put their names). In fact, I haven't seen an old-style easter egg in Mac OS X at all.

Since then, the quality of the Mac OS has increased significantly from the bad old days of Mac OS 7.5.5, where the little flag easter egg was the only good thing it had going for it.

Re:Worried About Competitor Braindrain? (1)

BorgCopyeditor (590345) | about 10 years ago | (#9662731)

Since then, the quality of the Mac OS has increased significantly from the bad old days of Mac OS 7.5.5, where the little flag easter egg was the only good thing it had going for it.

That and the fact that I could play Might & Magic III on it. :-(

Re:Worried About Competitor Braindrain? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9664773)

I've played M&M III on OSX...

Re:Worried About Competitor Braindrain? (2, Interesting)

stere0 (526823) | about 10 years ago | (#9671862)

Does /Applications/Mail.app/Contents/Resources/senders. tiff (remove the space) count as an easter egg? If you open it in Preview you can see eight pictures of Mail.app developers..

Re:Worried About Competitor Braindrain? (1)

sg3000 (87992) | about 10 years ago | (#9675272)

> Does /Applications/Mail.app/Contents/Resources/senders.
> tiff (remove the space) count as an easter egg?

I'd say it does. I guess they snuck one in after all. I'm not sure what work the Golden Retriever did on Mail though.

Re:Worried About Competitor Braindrain? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9676720)

Isn't most of MS's software development done by golden retrievers?

Re:Worried About Competitor Braindrain? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9663466)

Any programmer on Apple has CERTAINLY signed an NDA, well-before they were even allowed to touch a 1-Infinite-Loop keyboard.

I'm an Apple campus representative and had to sign one.

wait... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9664218)

Should you be telling us? (brain hemorrhages.)

sweet app (0)

kilonad (157396) | about 10 years ago | (#9660851)

Dashboard looks like a pretty sweet application. With each successive release, Mac OS X becomes an even more impressive desktop OS. They keep throwing stuff in it that boosts productivity (Expose, Dashboard, Automator, etc) while still maintaining its slick appearance. With all these productivity enhancements, sometimes I have to wonder why they don't put together a less-expensive G5 tower (i.e., less than $1500, let alone $2000 without a monitor) and target the business market. Even at $2000+/system, if Apple were to successfully convince just a few large companies to run small pilot programs to study productivity gains, they could make huge inroads into the business computing market. Between Tiger, the new 30" cinema displays, and a dual 2.5GHz G5, Apple really makes me wish I weren't a poor college student. :(

Re:sweet app (2, Insightful)

scottblascocomposer (697248) | about 10 years ago | (#9661311)

Don't worry, you'll be just as poor after graduation... or worse! Unless you're one of those foresightful individuals who major in business or accounting or something. Bastards.

(Liberal arts my ass. Two degrees in music and I work in a frickin' bookstore. But I'm not bitter!)

:P

Re:sweet app (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9661447)

Try to apply to record companies or radio stations, they always need research done.

Re:sweet app (4, Interesting)

mjpaci (33725) | about 10 years ago | (#9661888)

College isn't votech. You don't go to college to learn a specific trade or subject. You go to learn how to THINK. Once you know how to think, you apply that to any field.

The subject you major in is just the vehicle you use to learn how to think. I majored in Chemistry and now, 10 years later, I manage a technology group at a financial services company. I have yet to set foot in a lab for work since I left college.

I find the kids these days that major in business (MIS, whatever) don't really know a whole lot outside of their discipline. Liberal Arts gives you exposure to different fields. If you use your college experience properly and learn how to THINK, then you can use your off-major classes as practive for the real world.

In the past few years I have interviewed ~30 students from the MIS program at Northeastern for internship positions in my company. i have found that most of them have no idea what MIS is and are a bit suprised when they realize they will be working the help desk or desktop support as one of their first jobs out of college.

--mike

Re:sweet app (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9663934)

no, college isn't about thinking. it's about beer. lots of beer.

Re:sweet app (2, Interesting)

scottblascocomposer (697248) | about 10 years ago | (#9664764)

I suppose I should clarify that I don't actually think ill of a liberal arts education, or indeed of my music degrees. It's just a sardonic joke I have with my wife: how much easier would things be right now if we had taken career paths with more immediate tangible rewards?

I don't expect music (or writing, foreign languages, film studies, etc...) to make me rich, but I do expect to find the life we lead more rewarding long-term in intangibles like contentment, creativity, personal pride in accomplishments, contribution to culture and such.

Not to say I wouldn't mind a few tangibles as well! :)

Re:sweet app (1)

Ohreally_factor (593551) | about 10 years ago | (#9664899)

This is why so many liberal arts majors contemplate law school sooner or later. It's one of the well paying careers for which a liberal arts education prepares you.

Re:sweet app (1)

mjpaci (33725) | about 10 years ago | (#9668879)

True. I sometimes wonder where I'd be today had I majored in Comp Sci instead of Chemistry; or had taken a risk and majored in something like Philosophy or History. I majored in Chemistry not because I wanted to be a Chemist, but because I liked it and was comfortable in it (not to mention I was 4 credits into it due to the 4 I got on the AP). I started college with 20 credits from 3 APs (Chem, BC Calc, and Physics B) and it STILL TOOK ME 4 years. (That's because I never needed to take more than 13 credits a semester to graduate.)

--Mike

Companies don't hire people who can think (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9669809)

"You go to learn how to THINK. Once you know how to think, you apply that to any field."

Companies want people who know X 5.0, Y Enterprise Edition, and Z 3.0 Server.

Thinking? Feh.

Generalists. Who needs em.

Re:sweet app (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9679488)

Ah, the obligatory apple boost post.

OK this is ridiculous (-1, Troll)

blackmonday (607916) | about 10 years ago | (#9661204)

This article is shit.

But one keen observation: I'm a movie geek, so I searched for Alan Smithee on IMDB and I get that name for directors of some of the greatest movies ever made, several are on the IMDB's top 250 list. 12 Angry Men, the Original Manchurian Candidate, Cool Hand Luke, the first Superman, etc. Interesting stuff.

Re:OK this is ridiculous (2, Informative)

Jeremy Erwin (2054) | about 10 years ago | (#9662476)

But one keen observation: I'm a movie geek, so I searched for Alan Smithee on IMDB and I get that name for directors of some of the greatest movies ever made, several are on the IMDB's top 250 list. 12 Angry Men, the Original Manchurian Candidate, Cool Hand Luke, the first Superman, etc. Interesting stuff.


No.
Sidney Lumet is credited as "Sidney Lumet" for 12 Angry Men (1957). He is credited as "Alan Smithee" for Q&A (1990).

John Frankenheimer is credited as "John Frankenheimer" for The Manchurian Candidate (1957). He is credited as "Alan Smithee" for Riviera (1987)

Stuart Rosenberg is credited as "Stuart Rosenberg" for Cool Hand Luke (1967). He is credited as "Alan Smithee" for Let's Get Harry (1986).

Jackie Cooper is credited as "Jackie Cooper" for playing the role of "Perry White" in Superman (1978). He is also credited as "Jackie Cooper" for playing the role of "Alan Smithee" in Moonlight (1982).

Re:OK this is ridiculous (4, Informative)

overunderunderdone (521462) | about 10 years ago | (#9662489)

so I searched for Alan Smithee on IMDB and I get that name for directors of some of the greatest movies ever made, several are on the IMDB's top 250 list.

No, the IMDB page is saying those directors, with their most famous movies in parenthesis so you'll know who they are, are sometimes AKA "Alan Smithee". So for instance John Frankenheimer directed "12 Angry Men" and was credited as such. He ALSO directed a 1987 TV movie "Riviera" under the name Alan Smithee - meaning that "Riviera" sucked, he hated it and didn't want his name associated with it.

OOPS (1)

overunderunderdone (521462) | about 10 years ago | (#9662505)

Oops, I meant "The Manchurian Candidate" not "12 Angry Men" - I clicked the wrong link on the IMDB.

Somebody call and ask. (4, Interesting)

Fritzed (634646) | about 10 years ago | (#9662484)

If you look in the last couple of frames as the things fly toward the screen. You can see Alan Smithee's phone #, how about somebody calls him and asks him what's up. It is also the number in this [byte.com] article about opendoc, but that was in 1996 so maybe it got reassigned.

ALAN SMITHEE
408-796-1010

-> Fritz

Re:Somebody call and ask. (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9664805)

Are you sure that it was not 408-996-1010? That's Apple's corporate phone number in Cupertino CA; see Contacting Apple [apple.com] .

Re:Somebody call and ask. (1)

zbrimhall (741562) | about 10 years ago | (#9664997)

Seems likely (why bother looking myself?)

The number given by the grandparent poster results in a familiar voice: "We're sorry: the number you have dialed has been disconnected or is nolonger in service..."

Re:Somebody call and ask. (1)

lacrymology.com (583077) | about 10 years ago | (#9678197)

"We're sorry: the number you have dialed has been disconnected or is nolonger in service..."

Well no wonder he can't pay his phone bill; he keeps putting out crappy films!
-m

Re:Somebody call and ask. (3, Interesting)

Chucker23N (661210) | about 10 years ago | (#9665441)

It's also listed on "Steve's Resume": http://homepage.mac.com/steve/Resume.html

Re:Somebody call and ask. (2, Interesting)

dubstop (136484) | about 10 years ago | (#9677096)


Apple Computer Inc. 1976-1986 ...

Learned many things, including do's and don'ts for building executive teams ...


Best. Resume. Ever.

Re:Somebody call and ask. (1)

Chucker23N (661210) | about 10 years ago | (#9677328)

Woah, I never even noticed that. Must be a well-done slant at John Sculley :-)

Re:Somebody call and ask. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9681738)

>> Learned many things, including do's and don'ts for building executive teams.

> Must be a well-done slant at John Sculley :-)

Most definitely. Understatement of the year? The bit where he says he "Left in 1986..." made me laugh out loud. Yup, our heros at work.

Good lord (3, Funny)

Jahf (21968) | about 10 years ago | (#9662937)

This Smithee guy must be a genius ... IMDB states he directed his first movie the year he was born [imdb.com] and has been writing, directing, producing, composing, designing and editing many dozens if not hundreds of shows since. Now he's a keynote-quality software designer.

Good show old chap!

Re:Good lord (1)

Chucker23N (661210) | about 10 years ago | (#9665428)

It gets better. Although not quite confirmed, some IMDB members claim he directed "The Indiscreet Mrs. Jarvis", which was released 1955, 12 years before his birth.

We can only assume one thing: that in fact, he was not born, but *re-born* on earth in 1947, in Roswell, New Mexico, and that IMDB's claim of a 1967 birth was sponsored by the illuminati.

Re:Good lord (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9665966)

Or perhaps if he was reborn, the 2nd coming has happened already and all of us are the unlucky ones remaining after rapture!

i noticed that as well... (3, Insightful)

admactanium (670209) | about 10 years ago | (#9663735)

i work in the entertainment industry so it stuck out as odd to me. but don't we all think steve jobs, who also happens to be the ceo of a major movie production studio, would know the significance of that phrase BEFORE he demo'd dashboard? most people in the entertainment field know what that means. i seriously doubt he would be caught unawares.

WAAAY too little to go on (1, Insightful)

jaghatarjankare (787372) | about 10 years ago | (#9667490)

Alan Smithee is no news. Everyone knows about it. Having that name in something previewed by Apple means nothing - and you should all have better things to do. Egads, I mean come on and get a life!

Evidence Shmevidence (1)

lullabud (679893) | about 10 years ago | (#9669547)

Speculation is certainly not equal to hard facts, which are typically what evidence is made of.

It's a shoutout to the film peeps (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9669566)

What morons. It's just an inside joke for Apple's film industry customers (and potential customers).

I believe one of the screenshots had a Dashboard calculator with '1337' or a variant on the screen. Same idea. That was a shoutout to the geeks.

First they did it to Orson Welles! Now, to me! (1)

Zhe Mappel (607548) | about 10 years ago | (#9670476)

I spelled it out to those soulless suits. Plain as day:

Use that ridiculous dropshadow on my calculator widget, you no-talent bean counters, and I'm taking my name off the project.

Regardless, Dave Manning gave it a rave review... (1)

dpbsmith (263124) | about 10 years ago | (#9673698)

...in the Ridgefield Press.

I'm shocked, SHOCKED I tell you... (2, Funny)

Angostura (703910) | about 10 years ago | (#9674804)

That this posted by someone masquerading under the pseudonym 'Pudge'. Clearly he is deeply deeply embarrassed by this post. ... or somehing.

from http://www.konfabulator.com/ (1)

defunc (238921) | about 10 years ago | (#9675085)

"Cupertino, start your photocopiers!"

Funny that Apple would put out "Redmond, start your photocopiers" tag when everybody knows what happened to Watson, and now Konfabulator.

What goes around comes around.
Enuff said.

Re:from http://www.konfabulator.com/ (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9675765)

i guess not everyone knows what happened, since watson first copied sherlock and even after is still doing it better, and since konfab is a rip of apples desk accessories.

hell for that matter, every browser ever made is just a copy from that little engine made by that guy mark, remember him? and every OS with a GUI is just a xerox copy, and every........

get over it already. no, it isn't cool that they left arlo hanging. i wish they did better, but this is SOOOO blown out of all proportion and reality.

Just to remind everyone... (1)

FredFnord (635797) | about 10 years ago | (#9677468)

There is a long-standing Apple rule that says that none of the people in a project may put their names into the project anywhere, including in Easter eggs. (And, in fact, if you do manage to get an Easter egg into an Apple project, you'll be in a lot more trouble if your name is in it than if it isn't.) The alias here may just have been someone complaining that Apple wasn't letting him sign his real name. Or he could have put his real name in it and someone at Apple with a sense of humor enforced the prohibition in an amusing (to those in the know) way.

I think those are more likely explanations than any of the others I've seen. But hey, what do I know? I'm just an ex-Apple-employee.

-fred

More importantly (1)

exp(pi*sqrt(163)) (613870) | about 10 years ago | (#9678223)

Let me quote the article:
Apple's controversial Dashboard
What's controversial about 'Dashboard'?

I'M Alan Smithee (1)

Skibbering (787368) | about 10 years ago | (#9697890)

...and so's my wife!

Apple, "borrowing" technology? (1)

Texas Consultant (690764) | about 10 years ago | (#9704414)

Sounds almost like Microsoft. Or Red Hat. Where, oh where, can I find a conspiracy big enough for all of these degenerates?

Alternatively.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 years ago | (#9705573)

I'm surprised no one's mentioned this already, but if you *really* wanted to read something into this..

could it be related to the fact that Steve Jobs (with Wozniak) started apple and then got kicked out.. having his 'vision' for apple screwed up.. now he's fixing it...

Dashboard vs. Konfabulator (1)

dead nancy (239321) | about 10 years ago | (#9708656)

Intersting stuff here. [daringfireball.net]

xox,
Dead Nancy

---

For all of the armchair critics who claim to know that Apple "should have" bought Konfabulator to serve as the basis for Dashboard, I ask:

Have you used Konfabulator? If so, have you measured its memory consumption?

Do you think Apple's OS engineers should be concerned about performance and resource consumption?

Do you think you know more about performance and resource allocation than Apple's engineers?

Do you believe reasonable engineering opinions can be drawn by looking at screenshots?

Do you realize how insulting it is to have someone who knows nothing about the details of your work tell you that they know better than you do?

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